The joy of learning you are an INTP

[LAM]

Remember that psycho-development is a process. Many of us found this place because we were in that stage of development when we finally realize there is a reason we are the way we are, that it's natural, and beneficial to mankind that we exist. Because the INTP archetype is so rare, individuals who identify as INTP often feel downtrodden, broken, neglected, and warred-against.

I shall quote this post, because it described my situation before I realised there was a reason for the way I am and that I am not some kind of crazy loony who nobody understood. Learning what I was helped me learn my strengths and my weaknesses and made me generally a lot happier and more confident. Now that I knew what I was missing I read books, for example on body language to help me improve at what I sucked at (knowing what people felt and also those "hints" I was so incredibly oblivious to ) What did finding out you were an INTP do for you?

 

[Words]

It made me want to not be one. Its a boring personality.

 

[Pythia]

Its a boring personality.

I couldn't disagree more.

To me, finding out meant that I could finally stop trying to be someone I was not.

 

[Irishpenguin]

It made me feel even more unique then I already felt, and that was cool. I never hated myself for "Not fitting in" I always just found it funny in a way, and discovering my MBTI just seemed neat in how it pinpointed very detailed aspects of my life...(It also help me find this forum)

 

[LAM]

It made me want to not be one. Its a boring personality.

??? INTP is a boring personality??? I guess the thing is most INTPs don't do anything with their superior knowledge or sometimes intelligence. We hoard the knowledge and share minuscule bits of it on forums like this. Or with other intelligent people. I mean if you wanted to DO stuff no-ones stopping you
Anyways I read a lot of people on these forums did sports, including extreme sports so its not as if most INTPs even on this forum are boring in that sense. And intelligent conversation makes us intellectually stimulating/ exciting. And a lot of people on this forum got a good sense of humour (well, weird but still funny to lot of people .)

 

[LAM]

It made me feel even more unique then I already felt, and that was cool. I never hated myself for "Not fitting in" I always just found it funny in a way, and discovering my MBTI just seemed neat in how it pinpointed very detailed aspects of my life...(It also help me find this forum)

It showed me I didn't have to fit in. I knew then why I had somewhat of an obsession with fitting in and why I kept failing at it (heaps of physical bullying in kindergarten and early primary school was pretty bad for me .)

 

[Darby]

It helped me to know that I'm officially AWESOME, and now I have an excuse to be better than everyone else, not my fault, I was born this way

just kidding

It actually let helped me find this forum, and get made fun of more because I have often neglected to hang out with "real" friends in order to go home and read new posts on here.

 

[ashitaria]

There wasn't any joy, just a sense of identity.

 

[LAM]

There wasn't any joy, just a sense of identity.

I felt happy . I think.

 

[Adymus]

Before I found out I was an INTP, I would constantly question my own humanity. There were times where I would look at people and think "I'm not like them at all, how can I possibly be one of them? Which one of us is human?" I was basically Dr. Manhattan sans the god like powers.

So I guess it helped me be proud of what I was, and set aside those feelings of being an alien in my own home. I guess it also allowed me to be at peace with the rest of the people in the world as well, and not see them all as irrational idiots anymore.

Probably most important though, is that it gave me a road map on how to improve my weaknesses, which is something I had always been trying to accomplish anyway.

 

[LAM]

Before I found out I was an INTP, I would constantly question my own humanity. There were times where I would look at people and think "I'm not like them at all, how can I possibly be one of them? Which one of us is human?" I was basically Dr. Manhattan sans the god like powers.

So I guess it helped me be proud of what I was, and set aside those feelings of being an alien in my own home. I guess it also allowed me to be at peace with the rest of the people in the world as well, and not see them all as irrational idiots anymore.

Probably most important though, is that it gave me a road map on how to improve my weaknesses, which is something I had always been trying to accomplish anyway.

Thats what I was trying to say before sans the questioning my own humanity part. I just felt like an outsider and different. Adymus explains better than I can :smiley_emoticons_mr

 

[Sparrow]

I was relieved. I didn't want to be an INTJ. Yuck lol.

 

[shoeless]

yeah, echo the sense of belonging/identity/feeling like you're not a freak thing.

otherwise... it's given me a lot to think about i suppose.

 

[Adymus]

I was relieved. I didn't want to be an INTJ. Yuck lol.

At first I was sad I wasn't an INTJ.

Not so much because of what they can actually do, but just because the first test I took used the Keirsey nick names, and the INTJ's sounded cooler.

My test results came out "INTP: The Architect", and I was like "Awe sweet" and then my friend's results came out "INTJ: The Mastermind" and I was like "What!? Why do you get to be a mastermind and I'm just a lame ass architect!?"

 

[Darby]

At first I was sad I wasn't an INTJ.

Not so much because of what they can actually do, but just because the first test I took used the Keirsey nick names, and the INTJ's sounded cooler.

My test results came out "INTP: The Architect", and I was like "Awe sweet" and then my friend's results came out "INTJ: The Mastermind" and I was like "What!? Why do you get to be a mastermind and I'm just a lame ass architect!?"

I had almost the same reaction till I read the description, and I was like INTJ=FAIL, INTP=WIN

 

[Adymus]

I had almost the same reaction till I read the description, and I was like INTJ=FAIL, INTP=WIN

I have no idea why you would think the INTJ is fail, but to each their own I guess.

 

[Darby]

I have no idea why you would think the INTJ is fail, but to each their own I guess.

I meant it more in that INTP is cooler than INTJ, not that it is actually fail, just in comparison to the awesomeness of INTP

 

[soraya]

Hey now I think both are pretty freaking sweet! If you ever get the chance, watch an INTJ and an INTP working together to advance something they both believe in. It's totally ballin hard-core amazing. INTP + INTJ = epic awesome.

 

[Words]

At first I was sad I wasn't an INTJ.

Not so much because of what they can actually do, but just because the first test I took used the Keirsey nick names, and the INTJ's sounded cooler.

My test results came out "INTP: The Architect", and I was like "Awe sweet" and then my friend's results came out "INTJ: The Mastermind" and I was like "What!? Why do you get to be a mastermind and I'm just a lame ass architect!?"

Yeah right. >.> Stop flattering yourself, we all know your an INTJ. You should at least accept it.

 

[Anthile]

90% of the postings in this thread give me headache.*



*figure of speech

 

[Adymus]

Yeah right. >.> Stop flattering yourself, we all know your an INTJ. You should at least accept it.

Are you serious, or are just doing your impression of me?


And in what way is that flattery?

 

[echoplex]

Well, I wouldn't say I've found out I'm an INTP, because I'm not certain. I've tested as INTP, and at least to a moderate degree, related to the type's description. However, I'm not convinced that either means I've found out anything. If anything, I've found out just how much I don't really know myself. (heh, as if I needed a system to tell me that)

Fortunately, despite the confusion, I've become a bit more understanding of myself and others, and the whole attempt at understanding how I relate to the MBTI has renewed my desire to know who the hell I am (or if such a thing is knowable).

 

[Words]

Are you serious, or are just doing your impression of me?


And in what way is that flattery?

I wasn't serious but I expected confusion nonetheless. Yeah, I'm a bit affected by the "bluesquid arguments".


Flattery? well..."Mastermind" does sound great, though "Architect" seems like a cooler name.

 

[Adymus]

I wasn't serious but I expected confusion nonetheless. Yeah, I'm a bit affected by the "bluesquid arguments".


Flattery? well..."Mastermind" does sound great, though "Architect" seems like a cooler name.

Considering how I was just complaining about how Mastermind sounds way cooler than Architect, I don't see how that means I am flattering myself.

 

[Words]

Considering how I was just complaining about how Mastermind sounds way cooler than Architect, I don't see how that means I am flattering myself.

If you were an INTJ, you were simply saying "I have a cooler title".

 

[Adymus]

If you were an INTJ, you were simply saying "I have a cooler title".

I never claimed to be an INTJ, so could I be flattering this element of myself if I don't believe I have that element?

 

[flow]

lololol, but you're the one saying he's an INTJ. So you're saying that he's saying he'd rather be what you think he actually is, but it's pretty clear he doesn't actually think he's an INTJ. And for the record, I think Adymus has established a better understanding of these personality types than you have. Also, speaking of people questioning each others actual types, did I mention I think you're an ISTP?

Now someone needs to create the thread, The Pains of Questioning You Are An INTP.

 

[Words]

I never claimed to be an INTJ, so could I be flattering this element of myself if I don't believe I have that element?

But if you were, you would've. It wasn't "serious mode".

lololol, but you're the one saying he's an INTJ. So you're saying that he's saying he'd rather be what you think he actually is, but it's pretty clear he doesn't actually think he's an INTJ. Speaking of people questioning each others actual types, did I mention I think you're an ISTP?

Yeah, I might be a defective ISTP. On second thought, I wouldn't vote for that. more likely, either ENTP or INFP.

EDIT:

First of all, I don't know what type he is nor care much really. I'm just fond of "ironies". and I thought what better to do so than create a sort of "backfire".

 

[Adymus]

Pick your battles cauterize, you are not going to be able to bullshit your way out of every argument.

 

[Words]

Pick your battles cauterize, you are not going to be able to bullshit your way out of every argument.

What are we arguing about exactly?

 

[Adymus]

What are we arguing about exactly?

Whether I was flattering myself or not.

 

[Words]

Well, you weren't. Is your side "you were"?

but hypothetically speaking...

 

[flow]

You told him to stop flattering himself but you believed he wasn't flattering himself?

 

[Adymus]

God damn it Cauterize... Are you even following this discussion?

You know, never mind, don't answer that.

 

[Words]

You told him to stop flattering himself but you believed he wasn't flattering himself?

I think its pretty obvious he wasn't flattering himself(over a title? lol). And I thought my purpose was pretty obvious.

 

[echoplex]

Why is flattering oneself even a bad thing? I say it's awesome.

 

[Words]

Why is flattering oneself even a bad thing? I say it's awesome.

I know, right?

 

[Luminates]

When I first found it, I wanted to find out as much all the info I could on my personality as well as the others. that lead to me finding out how rare INTP really is, which made me feel unique towards a lot of others. I was actually very glad and joyed when I found out.

As for It being a "boring" personality, I would have to disagree. We are known for thinking way to much and wanting to learn multiple things etc. how is that boring? the only reason it would be boring is the fact we don't like social events, that doesn't mean though its a completely boring lifestyle. I find it rather interesting and such. We do have the ability to go to social events and such, its not like were totally against it. I'm sure that most of us at least are able to talk to others and such with no problem, so if your bored then go do something else.

Hey now I think both are pretty freaking sweet! If you ever get the chance, watch an INTJ and an INTP working together to advance something they both believe in. It's totally ballin hard-core amazing. INTP + INTJ = epic awesome.

Well I couldn't agree more.

 

[Darby]

Hey now I think both are pretty freaking sweet! If you ever get the chance, watch an INTJ and an INTP working together to advance something they both believe in. It's totally ballin hard-core amazing. INTP + INTJ = epic awesome.

My best friend is an INTJ, and your right, when working towards a common goal we work unbelievably well together.

At school however(in a social setting) it often gets turned into a "who is more socially awkward" boxing match, trying to show how incapable of interacting with others the other person is. For the most part, we have established that I seem to be more socially accepted, but only because I hide myself better, and if people really knew me, it's pretty likely I would be far less accepted than he.

 

[Adymus]

My best friend is an INTJ, and your right, when working towards a common goal we work unbelievably well together.

At school however(in a social setting) it often gets turned into a "who is more socially awkward" boxing match, trying to show how incapable of interacting with others the other person is. For the most part, we have established that I seem to be more socially accepted, but only because I hide myself better, and if people really knew me, it's pretty likely I would be far less accepted than he.

Ha, Fe ftw!


Yeah I actually met one of my best friends (who is an INTJ) by being randomly partnered with him to work as a group for the final project, in a group communication class I took. We made our topic for our presentation the Monomyth and the use of Archetypal motifs in all cultures. We completely knocked it out of the park, it was perfect Ti-Ne with Ni-Te synergy.

 

[LAM]

Thanks to the few people who wrote anything to do about my post and didn't join the stupid and annoying feud that had something to do with INTJ discrimination or something

This smiley represents what you did to this thread: I hope you are proud

 

[Adymus]

I'm sorry man, this happens every time Cauterize replies to one of my posts, so I put all blame on him.

But realistically, when you make a thread in a forum full of INTPs, you should probably expect it to be derailed at some point.

 

[Luminates]

I'm sorry man, this happens every time Cauterize replies to one of my posts, so I put all blame on him.

But realistically, when you make a thread in a forum full of INTPs, you should probably expect it to be derailed at some point.

Very true, Don't take it personal if your thread becomes irrelevant to what you meant it to be, that is the basic structure of an INTP you know

Trying to stay on topic or closer to it, would you be happy if you found out your closest friend or someone personal to you was also INTP?
I found out yesterday (after I forced him to take a certain test) that he is also INTP! I was very thrilled because it would explain why we get along very good. Well socially not so much, but respectively we do.

 

[LAM]

I'm sorry man, this happens every time Cauterize replies to one of my posts, so I put all blame on him.

But realistically, when you make a thread in a forum full of INTPs, you should probably expect it to be derailed at some point.

I have no problem with that. Except this was derailed into something that I considered offensive and most of the posts were non-sensical and just plain stupid. (I ain't blaming anyone in particular for this, neither do I want to spend time judging who did.) Thats what I got pissed off about.

 

[Cavallier]

Probably most important though, is that it gave me a road map on how to improve my weaknesses, which is something I had always been trying to accomplish anyway.

Indeed. I didn't feel the sense of relief or identity so many here seem to have. I saw my result as a guide to better understand, accept, and improve myself. I've never understood the need to find an identity. I know who I am. Now I just have to work on accepting my faults and finding ways of making myself better.

Edit: Somebody once told me that it's our national sport on the INTPforum to derail. If it really bothers you contact an Admin.

 

[LAM]

Indeed. I didn't feel the sense of relief or identity so many here seem to have. I saw my result as a guide to better understand, accept, and improve myself. I've never understood the need to find an identity. I know who I am. Now I just have to work on accepting my faults and finding ways of making myself better.

Edit: Somebody once told me that it's our national sport on the INTPforum to derail. If it really bothers you contact an Admin.

I was only pissed off for a short amount of time. I rarely get pissed off anyways, and only in small amounts

 

[Geminii]

I was sure for years that I was an INTJ, and only slowly came to realise over time that I'm mostly in the INTP mindset - but when taking tests (like the MBTI), I narrowed my focus and flipped to J.

I do like being P most of the time. It's restful. Drifty. And then every so often I have to go "argh!" and do some solid J hours to rip through whatever mundane stuff's built up.

 

[soraya]

Thanks to the few people who wrote anything to do about my post and didn't join the stupid and annoying feud that had something to do with INTJ discrimination or something

It's so funny because, being one myself, an INTJ wouldn't care if they were discriminated against in the first place. But, having said that, people have said some seriously nasty shit to INTJs on the forum that needs to end, which is why I wrote on that thread. NEVER saw it in this thread though so I don't know why people are saying that it is here and you, LAM, certainly didn't do it at all so just ignore the bullshit.

Getting back to the point of the thread. Glad it seems to help you all, I know finding out I was INTJ was a big help to me too. It helped me not to be sad when people said 'you are a rational emotionless bitch,' or 'you have no empathy' because I knew why it was appearing that I was that way and I was able to explain it to them. It seems that INTPs also experience that 'otherness' and MBTI can help us to realize why we are not the 'standard' and that it is ok to be how we are.

 

[truthseeker72]

My INTP self-discovery allowed me to accept my scatter-brained nature and emotional repression. I realized that with every strength (intuition and intellect) comes a weakness (poor sensory skills and lack of emotional expression)

 

[Hengeo]

Indeed. I didn't feel the sense of relief or identity so many here seem to have. I saw my result as a guide to better understand, accept, and improve myself. I've never understood the need to find an identity. I know who I am. Now I just have to work on accepting my faults and finding ways of making myself better.

Couldn't agree more