The banning of BAP

[Base groove]

Well, it has finally happened.

I think the old man deserves a thread to follow along with, to ease his passing into the afterlife.

Here is where you can briefly say: "sayonara amigo" to old man BAP.

I predict little or no controversy over this but it is worth mentioning (to honor his spirit) that perhaps this decision was made in haste and could have been forgotten simply with a mere dip in the pool and a Gin martini.

 

[Melkor]

This best be a wind up or Melkor is going to have to have a serious talk with the admins.

And by serious I mean electrified punishment spikes, and by talk I mean introduce to the former!

 

[Architect]

Seriously? Why?

He's a fixture, it's like having Norm banned.

 

[Jennywocky]

End of an era.

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@Architect: Read the Ban thread.
EDIT: Oh, wait. Yes. Norm. He seemed more "Cliff" to be honest, but okay.

If you'd like, I will speak for Diane Chambers on this solemn occasion:

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"The loss of BAP is a loss for us all and perhaps for all humanity. His incalculable perseverence, his ongoing but amicable confusions of innumerable flavors, the fashion in which he used to pester his meritable peers through personal electronic memorandum without permission... those are the recollections we take with us of this dear, old, affable-yet-somewhat-senile man who will now be left with nothing to fill his melancholy days but puttering about the house like a shadow in the footsteps of his wife --

-- oh heavens, that poor woman!" *runs off to make a call*

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I'm fine with gin.

 

[redbaron]

Ah yes, I think what the admins were really going for when they banned BAP was to be reminded of BAP even more.

Spoiler

Or maybe this is just super edgy next-level ironic BAP impersonation.

 

[Melkor]

Spoiler

Or maybe this is just super edgy next-level ironic BAP impersonation.

I suspect...nay HOPE this is the case.

 

[Base groove]

Hm, yes quite.

http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=442198&postcount=32

(the linked post has been edited or I am insane)


Also,

He died an unevitable death

Unenviable

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

He was a man of duty, a protector of the weak, a light in the darkness.

He died an unevitable death, suddenly, as he went about his schedule, he was deprived of the pleasure that could be compared to reading of a newspaper while sipping from a cup of coffee. He was sentenced long ago when he accepted his ways.

May he find a proper replacement to his routine and even better stimulations for his brain.

 

[Architect]

EDIT: Oh, wait. Yes. Norm. He seemed more "Cliff" to be honest, but okay.

Yes much better

 

[Architect]

http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=442198&postcount=32

OK fair enough, I hadn't seen the Admin butt-hurt side of the equation. He is quite dotty.

Oh BAP! The Humanity! Oh this is terrible!

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[Jennywocky]

Ah yes, I think what the admins were really going for when they banned BAP was to be reminded of BAP even more.

Spoiler

Or maybe this is just super edgy next-level ironic BAP impersonation.

If this thread is to be a reflective tribute, it must ramble on for at least 4000 posts, copy itself in multiple locations, and instigate irritable interventions of at least 40% of the mod staff during any given week.

Hm, yes quite.

http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=442198&postcount=32

(the linked post has been edited or I am insane)


Also,



Unenviable

Hmm. yes, it was rather inglorious... the basterd.
Just like your impersonation.

 

[Base groove]

OK fair enough, I hadn't seen the Admin butt-hurt side of the equation. He is quite dotty.

Oh BAP! The Humanity! Oh this is terrible!

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Architect. I'm not familiar with that terminology. I tried asking my wife what "butt-hurt" means but she says she would rather not talk about that. You also said "he is quite dotty". I'm not sure if you're talking about a poster in this thread or another. I don't want to name names because some members might not appreciate that. It's possible you're talking about the person this thread is named after. Can I say that?*

*Wait, scratch that. I now see this thread is about BAP. OK I am talking about BAP as well.

 

[Hawkeye]

Wow! I never thought I'd outlive BAP on this forum.



Could this mean Lyra may finally drop out of lurk-mode? ^^

 

[Cognisant]

Heh heh heh I wonder if the "Dying" thread knocked a few screws loose?
Variform next plz

Although BAP was as likeable as the sort get.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I don't think a permanent ban was deserved. Yeah he seemed out of control with the prodding and I suppose I don't know what it was like for the moderators or any people he was allegedly harassing through PMs. But he wasn't verbally abusive, he wasn't shutting down posts with insults etc. He provoked discussion which is what a forum is about.

The forum itself isn't a democracy, but I am certain in my feeling that he deserved to still be a part of the community. In any case, RIP.



That ban announcement post was misleading, the first time I saw it it said temp ban, I would have never spoken up.

 

[The Gopher]

I wonder what his reaction was. We need like eulogies for deceased members. A thread dedicated to the final rant of each person after being told they are perma banned. If nothing else it would be hilarious.

Edit: also it might help stop people making smurf accounts to rant.

 

[Minuend]

I think BAP had already been doing a lot of this stuff before you became active again, ESC. And yes, we're talking about months and months of repeating this rant over and over and over. And he was never listening nor trying to understand the other side.

The obsession became a type of passive aggressive proselytizing.

 

[Architect]

Architect. I'm not familiar with that terminology. I tried asking my wife what "butt-hurt" means but she says she would rather not talk about that. You also said "he is quite dotty". I'm not sure if you're talking about a poster in this thread or another. I don't want to name names because some members might not appreciate that. It's possible you're talking about the person this thread is named after. Can I say that?

lol ... well played.

However I prefer to speak of the banned in the best possible light.

BAP, we'll miss you <toast>

 

[Jennywocky]

That ban announcement post was misleading, the first time I saw it it said temp ban, I would have never spoken up.

yeah, I saw the temp ban, so I was surprised when BG started talking about BAP being banned as if it were perma.

I went back and checked, and voila.

I wonder what his reaction was. We need like eulogies for deceased members. A thread dedicated to the final rant of each person after being told they are perma banned. If nothing else it would be hilarious. Edit: also it might help stop people making smurf accounts to rant.

I keep suspecting I'll be getting an e-mail from him at some point today. *doh*

I think BAP had already been doing a lot of this stuff before you became active again, ESC. And yes, we're talking about months and months of repeating this rant over and over and over. And he was never listening nor trying to understand the other side.

The obsession became a type of passive aggressive proselytizing.

That. It 'twas obsession that killed the BAP.

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Here are some men who have something in common with BAP, with their URLs run through anonymizers to protect their identities. May the warm warm fuzzies commence.

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Bonus picture:
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[Inappropriate Behavior]

It feels like the marathon was taken out of the Olympics.

For was he not the forum's greatest test of endurance?

<------ or a triathalon.

 

[Absurdity]

yeah, I saw the temp ban, so I was surprised when BG started talking about BAP being banned as if it were perma.

Apologies to all. We should have publicized the amended ban more properly but we dropped the ball on that one.

As for eulogies, I'll just settle for more of Base groove's BAP impersonation.

 

[The Gopher]

It is fantastic I'll give you that.

 

[Cognisant]

The obsession became a type of passive aggressive proselytizing.

That should be a stated forum rule as people have been banned for it before and in all likelihood will be banned for it again.

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

I frequently had this reaction to his posts but I understand many wanted to but now it's time to

I'll always think of him as

 

[Cavallier]

This best be a wind up or Melkor is going to have to have a serious talk with the admins.

And by serious I mean electrified punishment spikes, and by talk I mean introduce to the former!

Promise?

Although BAP was as likeable as the sort get.

I agree. I think that's why he lasted as long as he did.

Apologies to all. We should have publicized the amended ban more properly but we dropped the ball on that one.

That was my bad. I didn't think to make a new post and instead just rehashed the old one.

As for eulogies, I'll just settle for more of Base groove's BAP impersonation.

It's kind of freaking me out. I mean...it's eerie.

 

[Red myst]

I wonder what his reaction was. We need like eulogies for deceased members. A thread dedicated to the final rant of each person after being told they are perma banned. If nothing else it would be hilarious.

Edit: also it might help stop people making smurf accounts to rant.

Like an exit interview after you've been fired or laid off! I agree. Everyone should have one last chance to speak.

 

[Jennywocky]

I really like the idea of "exit interviews."

Too bad we can't get it on video.

 

[The Gopher]

I really like the idea of "exit interviews."

Too bad we can't get it on video.

I could totally interview people that exit. I kinda did way back in smegal days...

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I think BAP had already been doing a lot of this stuff before you became active again, ESC. And yes, we're talking about months and months of repeating this rant over and over and over. And he was never listening nor trying to understand the other side.

The obsession became a type of passive aggressive proselytizing.

Alright so the behavior is there, but the motive is not. Passive-aggressive towards whom/what and why? (Please anyone don't speculate, if you are sure you know then speak up, but I don't intend to invite speculative blame).


@BAP

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJVewWbeBiY

 

[Grayman]

I haven't seen anything worth banning since I have been around. Am I missing something? Yes he made threads about the mods but I did not see a bunch of derails in that regard, nor could I see any reason to take his questioning as personal.

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! Have I been asleep and missed everything or has the world going crazy?

 

[Hawkeye]

See unwritten rule #4

 

[Grayman]

It can be hard to deal with people always questioning your motives and having to defend yourselves at every turn. It is a struggle for those who lead to deal with such things but it is inevitable. It is why I respect those in authority much of the time. Presidents, police, etc... under constant criticism and even hated for what they represent to those who hate authority.

I do believe BAP questions were sincere and well intentioned. I do not believe them a product of hate or a deliberate attack. I believe he only had trouble understanding and see eye to eye. There were times where he showed a since of respect to authority but often his questions came forth and hid this from plain view.

Yes, he had certain social inhibitions that prevented him from understanding certain things or acting in a specific fashion that would be considered appropriate without need for a written rule but this was not a conscious and deliberate act but one of social inadequacies. I can only imagine what would happen on the INTPf if we were banned for social inadequacies...

I believe this inadequacy was mostly in the form of knowing boundaries in pursuit of understanding. When does the pursuit become inappropriate?

Perhaps his attachment to this forum was too strong and that was what pushed him further than he should have gone. I can only imagine that with his post count and the time he has spent here that he feels a small ownership, large responsibility, and duty to how this forum has formed and where it goes. His actions would seem to indicate this.

This is not his role but it is a feeling derived of much time contributed and sacrificed in these threads. The amount of time he has spent here and the all the effort he put into his thoughts and posted in these threads is likely to be a cause of much grief when his time here has come to an end.

 

[Jennywocky]

Grayman, the fact you and many of us are still hear shows that the forum is pretty tolerant of social inadequacies. It's not like there's an impossibly high standard being pursued here. You'd do better to address why this particular person was banned for what kinds of behaviors and the length of time that these behaviors had persisted.

Maybe you're not aware of them, if you weren't around or if posts got moved. We're talking about a guy so obsessive that he even started writing to me off the forum (he guessed at my e-mail address) and I had to stop conversing from my end because he was invading my privacy.

 

[Grayman]

(he guessed at my e-mail address) and I had to stop conversing from my end because he was invading my privacy.

I thought that a glitch in the system soemtime back when sending private messages. He managed to send an email to me awhile ago. It would seem impossible to guess my name from my username. I am not certain how he did it unless maybe he had admin rights at one time. I think it was near my join date before I left for half a year.

 

[Grayman]

@Jenny

I believe if you go to my profile and click "contact" under my picture and then click "send an email it to this user", it will reveal your email address.

BAP did this to me and it revealed his personal email. I don't know the details of how this works...

 

[Base groove]

@Jenny

I believe if you go to my profile and click "contact" under my picture and then click "send an email it to this user", it will reveal your email address.

BAP did this to me and it revealed his personal email. I don't know the details of how this works...

I was just explaining this myself.. then closed the window

It appears the feature has either been removed or it was never there to begin with.

 

[Grayman]

I was just explaining this myself.. then closed the window

It appears the feature has either been removed or it was never there to begin with.

Sorry, I disabled the "Recieve Emails from other members" check box in my user cp when I suspected an issue. I am going to enable it but send me a message at your own risk.

 

[Jennywocky]

@Jenny

I believe if you go to my profile and click "contact" under my picture and then click "send an email it to this user", it will reveal your email address.

BAP did this to me and it revealed his personal email. I don't know the details of how this works...

Why is this so complicated? BAP specifically said in his e-mail to me that he "guessed at my e-mail address." he didn't find it on this site. he guessed it, like I said earlier. He explicitly said so.

Are you getting paid a stipend to defend him or something?

 

[Cherry Cola]

Maybe he has an insider who supplies him with e-mail adresses : O

 

[Puffy]

Maybe he has an insider who supplies him with e-mail adresses : O

 

[Etheri]

Gee. Even INTPs aren't immune to drama.

 

[Pyropyro]

Gee. Even INTPs aren't immune to drama.

We do have a heart and a penchant for social drama (Fe) you just have to dig down REALLY hard.

 

[Grayman]

Why is this so complicated? BAP specifically said in his e-mail to me that he "guessed at my e-mail address." he didn't find it on this site. he guessed it, like I said earlier. He explicitly said so.

Are you getting paid a stipend to defend him or something?

Just trying to figure out how he got my email too but I figured it out. You can accidently give out your email even if you don't have it posted anywhere by accidently clicking "Send Email" instead of "Send private message". Even if you don't reveal your email and have blocked emails from other members, INTPf will send a message to the persons inbox with your email address on the message.

 

[Hawkeye]

I'm gonna guess that Jenny's number is 867-5309.

 

[TheScornedReflex]

I need a new source of annoyance and amusement now. Such sad.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Well I did get a read receipt request from him once, it is something that reports the time the message was received and the recipient's IP address. I've had another suspicious request a long time ago from a new account.

I think it is a security issue because not everyone has encountered read receipts before and know what they do.

 

[Cavallier]

I recieved countless re-reciepts with PMs from him. It's a radio button option when sending a PM.

 

[Cherry Cola]

If one leaves ones phone number in this thread do you think he will call?

 

[Base groove]

If one leaves ones phone number in this thread do you think he will call?

BAP:

1 780 995 8355 text me we'll talk about this. I can post for you vicariously. They'll just think I'm impersonating you. LULz abound.

 

[Grayman]

Why is this so complicated? BAP specifically said in his e-mail to me that he "guessed at my e-mail address." he didn't find it on this site. he guessed it, like I said earlier. He explicitly said so.

Are you getting paid a stipend to defend him or something?

I follow the evidence and right now, from what I have witnessed, BAP is just the victim of a witch hunt. I don't want to believe this as it would mean I have lost faith in this forum but I need evidence to the contrary that would shift my views.

BAP guessing your email is not that concerning to me. I find the idea of guessing your email kind of fun, personally. He has not shown any obsession in PMing me and guessing your email is not really a sign of stalking unless it is coupled with him contacting you even though you asked him not to.