so i've decided i'm actually an INFP.

[shoeless]

i also decided it doesn't matter much, but it's fun anyway.

i think maybe sometimes you can never really know yourself until somebody else gets to know you. like, really gets to know you. really understands you. that way you have a different lens to examine yourself with. it's nice to have a broader understanding.

so, yeah. pointless thread is pointless.

still lub yoo guise.

 

[Sparrow]

You could be an ENFP

 

[shoeless]

nah, i'm pretty solid on the introvert thing.

 

[Anthile]

At last. Now I can sleep sound at night.

 

[citrusbreath95]

 

[Words]

Shoeless.

You could organize a thread to specifically suit your interests in "shoeless' type". Place videos in it and see what people thinks and what they can share could help. I have a feeling you'll change your mind again...

 

[s0nystyle]

At last. Now I can sleep sound at night.

^ this

 

[shoeless]

i knew you guys would be excited for me.

but nah, the fact that i don't care much myself sort of sets up for these kinds of posts. i supposed i was going to make a point with the OP, but it would have turned into another one of those rambly things about why MBTI doesn't ultimately matter.

 

[Anthile]

To me, typology is nothing more but a sub-category of psychology. Hence, it is always very confusing for me when amateurs try to use it in day-to-day life and treat it like it's just a matter of interpretation like a Keats poem.

 

[Adymus]

I'm pretty damn certain you are not an INFP Shoeless. You're definitely an Fe/Ti user, I always see you making these mock sarcastic smiles with Fe, and then as soon as you let it go it just goes back to the blank neutral expression of Ti, with no effort put into neutralizing it at all.

You asked me about some of this in your last video, sorry I haven't responded, I've been feeling really blah for the past month and have not felt up to making another video since.

To answer your question in the shortest amount of terms possible, the difference between how Fe and Fi look on this face is if they have an aware mouth or unaware mouth. Fe users are aware of what their face is doing, and what it looks like on the outside, so it moves with a kind of intentional dexterity, responding to the outside and moving in controlled ways (quite fitting for an actress). Fi users on the other hand are unaware of what their face is doing, so you see their faces contorting and making gestures that kind of just hang there, a reflection of what they are actually feeling, and not what they want people to feel as Fe does.

Anyway, what I personally think your type is, and I do feel a bit embarrassed to say it considering I made a whole video counter argument against this. But I think Auburn might have actually been right when he pegged you as ENTP. I wanted to review your videos before I made that argument, but you deleted your account, so when I had a chance to really examine the new one you posted afterward I was like

It would actually make sense that you feel you are an F, consider for an ENTP Fe takes up a bit more space in their conscious mind, so they tend to identify with it more, especially Female ENTPs.

You're very engaging, and really really bouncy, it does seem to me that Ne as a starting point as opposed to Ti, or even Fi as a starting point is a bit more likely. But yeah, that is just my read of things, so take that as you wish.

 

[420MuNkEy]

Note: this post is the result of ironic thought, rather than feeling

 

[Sparrow]

Shoeless.

You could organize a thread to specifically suit your interests in "shoeless' type". Place videos in it and see what people thinks and what they can share could help. I have a feeling you'll change your mind again...

You post a video. Who knows, you may not be an INTP.

 

[Words]

You post a video.

Who knows, you may not be an INTP.

No, I'm not INTP. I'm an ESFJ!! Here to feed them scrawny bastards some Fe!!

---

Sadly, the benefit is meager compared to the costs.

 

[shoeless]

adymus:
the problem i find with typing people through videos like that is it very much is a performance to begin with. how i act in a video might not at all be how i act in a natural situation in real life. in fact, it's pretty noticeably different.

of course i'm gonna appear kind of extraverted in a video -- i'm being forced to talk, and keep talking since it's just me on camera, and at the same time i want to entertain because i know how boring videos of some random asshole just talking can be. but stick me in a room full of my boyfriend's stoner friends and i won't say a goddamn word.

the reason i believe i favor Fi over Ti is because more and more i'm realizing how much i reject the notion of "Logic!" in favor of empathy and compassion. i've always been ultrasensitive to my emotional environment, and since, growing up, it was hardly a happy one, i've been inclined to do what i can to push that aside because it just hurt too much. now that i'm older and far more matured, i can kick its ass. and i have zero qualms about sharing my emotional state with my boyfran as long as i feel safe about it. all of that points to a dominant Fi user to me.

or maybe i'm just wrong, who's to really say.

 

[cheese]

of course i'm gonna appear kind of extraverted in a video -- i'm being forced to talk, and keep talking since it's just me on camera, and at the same time i want to entertain because i know how boring videos of some random asshole just talking can be. but stick me in a room full of my boyfriend's stoner friends and i won't say a goddamn word.

I think there's confusion between 'extroversion' as it's used in common speech, and 'extroversion' in MBTI. Generally we use it to mean how likely you are to engage other people, and how comfortable you are doing it. That's more dependent on the position of your Te or Fe function though (in particular Fe, which is even more focused on engaging people than Te). This is why Se or Ne dominants (adaptive, not directive) might sometimes be seen as 'introverts' because they're not necessarily driven to go out there and grapple with and change the world as a J would. However, their focus is on the external world, and this is what makes them extroverts in MBTI terms. In the same way an INFJ might be classed in normal conversation as an extrovert, because auxiliary Fe means engaging with people is probably a strength of theirs. Again however, their focus is on their inner worlds.

It's the same as the Feeling/Thinking divide I think - those terms don't mean quite the same thing in everyday speech as they do in MBTI, and neither does Introversion/Extroversion. In MBTI, the latter is not a social-o-meter.

Alright, someone correct me if I've got something wrong.

 

[Melkor]

I never really saw you as INTP, but you'll always be one if us.

I'm not qualified or properly clued in MBTI wise to make a judgement, but you do remind me of a close ENFP friend in your writing style.

 

[Adymus]

adymus:
the problem i find with typing people through videos like that is it very much is a performance to begin with. how i act in a video might not at all be how i act in a natural situation in real life. in fact, it's pretty noticeably different.

of course i'm gonna appear kind of extraverted in a video -- i'm being forced to talk, and keep talking since it's just me on camera, and at the same time i want to entertain because i know how boring videos of some random asshole just talking can be. but stick me in a room full of my boyfriend's stoner friends and i won't say a goddamn word.

the reason i believe i favor Fi over Ti is because more and more i'm realizing how much i reject the notion of "Logic!" in favor of empathy and compassion. i've always been ultrasensitive to my emotional environment, and since, growing up, it was hardly a happy one, i've been inclined to do what i can to push that aside because it just hurt too much. now that i'm older and far more matured, i can kick its ass. and i have zero qualms about sharing my emotional state with my boyfran as long as i feel safe about it. all of that points to a dominant Fi user to me.

or maybe i'm just wrong, who's to really say.

Actually videos do work very well because, well taking you for example, if your face is built to use Fe and not Fi, then you giving more of a performance for the camera is not going to change that. You can act more "extroverted", you can seem more directive, but you can't fake cognitive function use, you either use them or you don't. Your brain and face is not going to change it's wiring and anatomical structuring just because you want it to.

Also, cheese is right, we ultimately have conscious use of all four functions, and if you have grown to learn that pure logic is not a favorable tactic in every field, especially the field of human dynamics, then you've developed well. But just because you have the ability to make that consideration does not mean it is a "preferred" cognitive function, it might just mean that you have learned the importance of it, and make the effort to modulate with it every now and again.

I'd like to expand on cheese's comments: Ne dominants are by in large the most reserved of all the extroverted types and as a result, the most mistaken for introverts. This is mainly because the world we live in is not one that readily recognizes the inherent value of Ne. Because of this, Ne dominants often take a lot of hits from their environment for using their Ne, and it is invalidated by people in their environment. Because of this, they start hiding it more by modulating it with Si when dealing with people. This makes the social experience a draining one, because of the fact that they have to use so much of their inferior function just to deal with most people, considering your Fe would also be a draining function, this only adds to that.

Ne can be energized when dealing with some people, provided that they are stimulating to you, but it is not exclusive to people like one might think if they are only going by the common definition of "Extroversion." Ne is stimulated by interfacing with the patterns and information of the external and objective world. Which can be done by reading a book, surfing Wikipedia, taking a hike, practicing martial arts, it can be done alone as well as done with people.