NormannTheDoorman
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To be specific what did you do to narrow down your major for college if you ever went.
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OK, it's on.
So I just finished high-school. What the hell do I do?
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Pyropyro
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I didn't. I just enrolled on the coolest sounding course.
Congrats Normann!
Congrats Normann!
NormannTheDoorman
Rice is love. Rice is life.
I didn't. I just enrolled on the coolest sounding course.
Congrats Normann!
Thank you.
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Well I came back to what I liked as a child and also thought that it will be good to use it in my job then and still quite easy to do when I get older compared to other proffesions (which I assume I will do)
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I liked math the most out of my high school classes and I knew there was a ton of math stuff that I still didn't know so I was like, "Might as well." And now it's been two years and on the whole I'm liking my decision. Math is pretty neat.
So yeah, I'd say consider mostly what kind of things interested you the most in high school but also a lot of grown-up types will tell you to keep in mind what will be useful and things for getting jobs, but mostly what things you enjoy.
The first year is pretty helpful for that, since you can enroll in GE classes all across the board and narrow down which topics you like and which you don't.
Also congrats on finishing high school
it's a breath of fresh air. Enjoy this summer.
So yeah, I'd say consider mostly what kind of things interested you the most in high school but also a lot of grown-up types will tell you to keep in mind what will be useful and things for getting jobs, but mostly what things you enjoy.
The first year is pretty helpful for that, since you can enroll in GE classes all across the board and narrow down which topics you like and which you don't.
Also congrats on finishing high school
it's a breath of fresh air. Enjoy this summer.DrGregoryHouse
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step 1
Went to the dept of labor (website). Downloaded a list of every single occupation under the sun. Thousands. Everything from janitor to C.E.O.
step 2
went through the list from top to bottom and bottom to top several times. Eliminated all occupations that I already knew I would hate hate hate given my personal proclivities as well as generalized INTP nature.
step 3
went through the list again and identified the occupations I knew I would love love love and I knew I could be passionate about given my personal proclivities as well as generalized INTP nature.
step 4
went through and only kept those occupations on my list which made a decent salary. (In my case, for personal reasons, my threshold was about 100k in today's dollars but whatever floats one's boat is not always what float's anothers) Eliminated all the rest. I think I ended up with about 20-30 potentially viable options
step 5
ranked them in descending order on a scale of 1-10. hint: not all are going to be 10s! Make yourself pick the least 1 of your favorites and give it a 1.
step 6
took the top 3 and went ahead and explored them in depth. College is a great place to explore in such a way as this. Without committing your entire life you can take different classes at the same time and see if its what you thought/ isn't/ is better/ worse than what you thought/ is boring/ more interesting than what you thought etc...
if one of these top 3 doesn't pan out you'll have several more in your back pocket to fall back on etc.
(what I failed to mention and was hoping was obvious via deduction is that its vital to work backwards from the occupations you identify as viable and identify what educational path will make a given viable occupation possible)
Went to the dept of labor (website). Downloaded a list of every single occupation under the sun. Thousands. Everything from janitor to C.E.O.
step 2
went through the list from top to bottom and bottom to top several times. Eliminated all occupations that I already knew I would hate hate hate given my personal proclivities as well as generalized INTP nature.
step 3
went through the list again and identified the occupations I knew I would love love love and I knew I could be passionate about given my personal proclivities as well as generalized INTP nature.
step 4
went through and only kept those occupations on my list which made a decent salary. (In my case, for personal reasons, my threshold was about 100k in today's dollars but whatever floats one's boat is not always what float's anothers) Eliminated all the rest. I think I ended up with about 20-30 potentially viable options
step 5
ranked them in descending order on a scale of 1-10. hint: not all are going to be 10s! Make yourself pick the least 1 of your favorites and give it a 1.
step 6
took the top 3 and went ahead and explored them in depth. College is a great place to explore in such a way as this. Without committing your entire life you can take different classes at the same time and see if its what you thought/ isn't/ is better/ worse than what you thought/ is boring/ more interesting than what you thought etc...
if one of these top 3 doesn't pan out you'll have several more in your back pocket to fall back on etc.
(what I failed to mention and was hoping was obvious via deduction is that its vital to work backwards from the occupations you identify as viable and identify what educational path will make a given viable occupation possible)
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I was offered a music scholarship. Lasted a year, then went to a JC in Physics. Later got a full ride to PhD program. Left that for a full ride as an engineer, been there since.
So yeah, I'll whore for money.
So yeah, I'll whore for money.
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Kill yourself now, before it's too late.
Srsly tho,
Near 100% probability you will pick a major that has nothing to do with your career, so you might as well pick the one you'll enjoy most. As long as you feel you're learning and developing yourself and being challenged, I don't think it matters.
Srsly tho,
Near 100% probability you will pick a major that has nothing to do with your career, so you might as well pick the one you'll enjoy most. As long as you feel you're learning and developing yourself and being challenged, I don't think it matters.
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welcome to the vertical drop called life
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Follow in my footsteps and get a PhD in engineering.
EditorOne
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Remain flexible. Whatever you decide, odds are the job will become obsolete within 20 years and you'll need to learn new survival skills.
Ever consider starting up your own business?
I don't think your "answer" is so much "what" as it is "where." If I was just out of high school or college now, I'd check demographics and find the fastest growing parts of my country, and head there. I don't know why I haven't articulated this consciously until now, but succeeding in anything is easier if you are in an area that is growing - new jobs, new services required, new business opportunities. Competition is not as fierce because the pie is expanding. You can focus on your own endeavors because the community is taking care of itself. Contrast that to areas that are dying: Detroit, Atlantic City. It's a totally different environment, one in which those who have are focused on keeping it and are jealous of competition, initiative, anything that threatens their precarious grip on a "pie" that is getting smaller beneath their talons no matter what they do.
After getting to the new area and finding any kind of sustaining temporary income, I'd focus on analyzing opportunities, then do whatever is required to equip myself to exploit one.
I had an unkle who did this when casinos first came to Atlantic City. He went to Vegas for a year, questioned everything, and then started up an Atlantic City business that supplied a niche casino need. Very successful for the rest of his active business career. He, however, was a very entrepreneurial guy and not an INTP. We might simply realize that the area we pick is going to need high school teachers for at least the next 20 years. Whatever. Just think about "where" as much as "what."
The world is full of the history of people who left home to find better environments for their skills and aptitudes, as well as stories of people who had no choice but to leave their home areas because of collapsed economies, famine or invaders. It's not new, I've just been internalizing it more. I am again the master of recycling the obvious.
Ever consider starting up your own business?
I don't think your "answer" is so much "what" as it is "where." If I was just out of high school or college now, I'd check demographics and find the fastest growing parts of my country, and head there. I don't know why I haven't articulated this consciously until now, but succeeding in anything is easier if you are in an area that is growing - new jobs, new services required, new business opportunities. Competition is not as fierce because the pie is expanding. You can focus on your own endeavors because the community is taking care of itself. Contrast that to areas that are dying: Detroit, Atlantic City. It's a totally different environment, one in which those who have are focused on keeping it and are jealous of competition, initiative, anything that threatens their precarious grip on a "pie" that is getting smaller beneath their talons no matter what they do.
After getting to the new area and finding any kind of sustaining temporary income, I'd focus on analyzing opportunities, then do whatever is required to equip myself to exploit one.
I had an unkle who did this when casinos first came to Atlantic City. He went to Vegas for a year, questioned everything, and then started up an Atlantic City business that supplied a niche casino need. Very successful for the rest of his active business career. He, however, was a very entrepreneurial guy and not an INTP. We might simply realize that the area we pick is going to need high school teachers for at least the next 20 years. Whatever. Just think about "where" as much as "what."
The world is full of the history of people who left home to find better environments for their skills and aptitudes, as well as stories of people who had no choice but to leave their home areas because of collapsed economies, famine or invaders. It's not new, I've just been internalizing it more.
I am again the master of recycling the obvious.
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Fixed.
Isn't the term occupation fuzzy? It would be about the required sets of skills that are ever-growing and most importantly of all, being able to use them.DrGregoryHouse said:
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Originally Posted by DrGregoryHouse
Went to the dept of labor (website). Downloaded a list of every single occupation under the sun. Thousands. Everything from janitor to C.E.O.
Isn't the term occupation fuzzy? It would be about the required sets of skills that are ever-growing and most importantly of all, being able to use them.
Agreed. Occupation, Profession, trade, job, etc ad nauseum have all gotten less descriptive over the years (due to the phenomenon of what is in the same vein as "job title inflation"/ credential creep IMO)
Originally Posted by DrGregoryHouse
Went to the dept of labor (website). Downloaded a list of every single occupation under the sun. Thousands. Everything from janitor to C.E.O.
Isn't the term occupation fuzzy? It would be about the required sets of skills that are ever-growing and most importantly of all, being able to use them.
Agreed. Occupation, Profession, trade, job, etc ad nauseum have all gotten less descriptive over the years (due to the phenomenon of what is in the same vein as "job title inflation"/ credential creep IMO)
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Heeeeeeeey, I did that.
Otherwise, finding a really nice rock to hide under seems like a good choice these days. (That's sarcasm.)
EditorOne
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"Otherwise, finding a really nice rock to hide under seems like a good choice these days."
That's not sarcasm, Doctorin, that's a growth opportunity. Whether for doomsdayers or people who want to bury themselves in their own Walden Pond, manufacturing seclusion is a business opportunity. It ranges all the way from bomb shelters to getaway weekends in the boonies to simply earphones with white noise to drown out reality.
That's not sarcasm, Doctorin, that's a growth opportunity. Whether for doomsdayers or people who want to bury themselves in their own Walden Pond, manufacturing seclusion is a business opportunity. It ranges all the way from bomb shelters to getaway weekends in the boonies to simply earphones with white noise to drown out reality.
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1. Go to college but don't declare a major until your junior year. Worked for me. Gives you time and ability to explore.
2. Join the Coast Guard. I wish I had. Would have been good experience in many ways, including maturing better.
3. Learn any type of programming you can - unless you're independently wealthy and don't need to support yourself. In that case, join the Peace Corps and help vulnerable people in other parts of the globe survive.
2. Join the Coast Guard. I wish I had. Would have been good experience in many ways, including maturing better.
3. Learn any type of programming you can - unless you're independently wealthy and don't need to support yourself. In that case, join the Peace Corps and help vulnerable people in other parts of the globe survive.