Sexual novelty

[SpaceYeti]

I remember when I was young, simply being naked seemed sexy. Not because I thought I was attractive, but because I was naked, and I had access to my sex parts unlike that I normally had, and it was out there, right in the open. Now that I'm older, I'm generally naked as much as I can be. Not because of any sexual thrill, but because I'm simply comfortable that way. Clothes, no matter how thin or comfortable, are never as comfortable as being naked. I'm naked right now, if you don't count my blanket. I'm curious if anyone else has had a development like this. Perhaps some people never even get this far. It seems many people associate nudity with sex, hence censoring and societal laws on the subject. Thoughts?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Feels good man

 

[Melllvar]

I'm naked right now, if you don't count my blanket.

Hawt.

Personally I like to keep a layer of cloth between me and my most sensitive areas. Sitting around in shorts is my version of naked-time. It also helps when the dog randomly decides to climb into my lap.

I can't say I remember ever finding myself attractive in anyway, like what you're describing. As for the general taboo against nudity, I imagine it's partly that people are conditioned to think that way (a habit that's hard to break), and partly that it simplifies a lot of competitiveness involving body type, genital size, etc. Also the protection of sensitive areas thing. Just a guess though, I don't really have evidence for that.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Hawt.

Personally I like to keep a layer of cloth between me and my most sensitive areas. Sitting around in shorts is my version of naked-time. It also helps when the dog randomly decides to climb into my lap.

I can't say I remember ever finding myself attractive in anyway, like what you're describing. As for the general taboo against nudity, I imagine it's partly that people are conditioned to think that way (a habit that's hard to break), and partly that it simplifies a lot of competitiveness involving body type, genital size, etc. Also the protection of sensitive areas thing. Just a guess though, I don't really have evidence for that.

Damn right it's hawt. It's understandable to keep stuff protected when you have pets or if it's cold or whatever.

Well, I'd be lying if I claimed I don't think I'm attractive, just I'm not personally attracted to myself. How lucky would that be? Being attracted to myself would be awesome.

I always presumed it grew out of protection from the environment, then societal norms somehow mixed religion in there, grew some shame about it, and now we cover them up because exposing yourself is somehow a bad thing to do. Hell, there's a whole fetish for taking your clothes off or somehow revealing yourself in public. And there's a double standard that goes along with it, too. Pretty women are sexy when they do it, but men and ugly women are perverts. We humans are strange.

 

[Cogwulf]

Being naked always used to seem special and fun, but when I moved into my own flat and could be naked whenever I wanted, it lost most of its' appeal.

 

[Bird]

Being naked has never seemed sexy to me.


Nudity originally started being squashed when the
first humans experienced winter with their lack
of fur. It had nothing to do with societal laws and
everything to do with survival.


The human mind is incredibly powerful. We all
know this, just thinking about sex can make you
aroused. Typically fantasies are more arousing
than even having a partner, it's why we fantasize
even when we have someone to be intimate with.
This being the case, when you see exposed
flesh your mind naturally wanders to sexual activities
and for the safety of the children, I think it's fabulous
we wear clothing.
As animals our first impulse is to procreate, to continue
the growth of our species.
There is a link between exposed flesh and sex. In the
summer you typically have more sex, why? Certainly
not because the weather makes it more enjoyable
(slip and slide sweaty sex, need I say more) but because
arousal levels are higher due to lack of clothing and exposed
skin. The less clothing we wear the more likely rape is
to happen because we are uncontrollable no matter what
we wish to think.

I enjoy being naked, however I would not enjoy the looks
being thrown my way or the evaluation of my body. Also it
would make me really uncomfortable to see people aroused :x


Perhaps if we had evolved to embrace nudity we wouldn't
have these problems, but trying to overcome them is
very difficult. It's easier to take the temptation away from the
animal than it is to change the animal. It takes seventy generations
just to domesticate a fox and even then they are not fully
domesticated.
As humans we like to think we're domestic, but truly, we're not.


Clothing is a very wonderful thing.

 

[SpaceYeti]

You're such a woman, Bird. Your manner of thinking... well, it just doesn't make sense. Why would you not enjoy being found sexy?

 

[Bird]

You're such a woman, Bird. Your manner of thinking... well, it just doesn't make sense. Why would you not enjoy being found sexy?

How does it not make sense? ):


I would not know how to respond.

 

[SpaceYeti]

There's no need to respond at all. Being found attractive is generally considered a compliment, yet you, and other women, seem to get upset when we actually look at the person who's attractive. Attractive people are nice to look at. That's why they're called attractive. They attract your attention.

 

[Solitaire U.]

I honestly don't think we were meant to embrace nudity, as we aren't equipped to survive the elements without clothes. I consider them armor, partially job related but also in defense of a hostile world.

Also, if nudity was a day to day commonality sex would become pretty damned mundane.

 

[Bird]

I think it's because our mothers raise us telling
us that it's our insides that matter.

 

[SpaceYeti]

And they do, but I can't look at a person and see their personality. It doesn't mean I stop enjoying looking at her. Liking someone's personality cannot happen if you don't know them.

 

[Melllvar]

There's no need to respond at all. Being found attractive is generally considered a compliment, yet you, and other women, seem to get upset when we actually look at the person who's attractive. Attractive people are nice to look at. That's why they're called attractive. They attract your attention.

I've always wondered about this as well. If someone finds me attractive, I generally like it. It's nice. I can't complain at all, even if I'm not attracted to them. My theory is that when lots of people find you attractive, it loses it's complimentary factory and becomes annoying. You can afford to be picky, or fed up with people's unwanted attention. To someone who is attractive and gets lots of attention, they wish it would go away and only people they're attracted to would appreciate their looks, while for people who aren't attractive and don't get that attention, they wish more people would desire them on some level.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

And they do, but I can't look at a person and see their personality. It doesn't mean I stop enjoying looking at her. Liking someone's personality cannot happen if you don't know them.

Trufacts yo.

 

[SpaceYeti]

I've always wondered about this as well. If someone finds me attractive, I generally like it. It's nice. I can't complain at all, even if I'm not attracted to them. My theory is that when lots of people find you attractive, it loses it's complimentary factory and becomes annoying. You can afford to be picky, or fed up with people's unwanted attention. To someone who is attractive and gets lots of attention, they wish it would go away and only people they're attracted to would appreciate their looks, while for people who aren't attractive and don't get that attention, they wish more people would desire them on some level.

Agreed. Back in the day, women needed to be the colorful feather mate attractors, but now that we have so much free time and do not need to worry about surviving through the winter, they have more attention than they want and roles seem to have reversed. Now they choose from the colorful feathers of the males.

 

[Bird]

A lot of girls are only valued for their looks.
It's really shitty.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Nudity originally started being squashed when the
first humans experienced winter with their lack
of fur. It had nothing to do with societal laws and
everything to do with survival.

I'd say this was natural progression, it sounds accurate. If you don't believe in Creationism, the only way nudity could have been noticed self-consciously is by having clothes on first. So yeah, whenever humans first started wearing clothes habitually, nudity then became an peculiarity.

The human mind is incredibly powerful.

Agreed.

We all know this, just thinking about sex can make you
aroused. Typically fantasies are more arousing
than even having a partner, it's why we fantasize
even when we have someone to be intimate with.
This being the case, when you see exposed
flesh your mind naturally wanders to sexual activities
and for the safety of the children, I think it's fabulous
we wear clothing.
As animals our first impulse is to procreate, to continue
the growth of our species.

Surely it all comes down to procreation and survival, our main source of drive and motivation. But I don't think everyone is readily tapped in to that source of energy as everyone else. Some people are more easily aroused than others, some people are more directive of that energy than others, some people are asexual and feel nothing at all.

There is a link between exposed flesh and sex. In the
summer you typically have more sex, why? Certainly
not because the weather makes it more enjoyable
(slip and slide sweaty sex, need I say more) but because
arousal levels are higher due to lack of clothing and exposed
skin.

Frequency of summer sex is pretty subjective. Rather, are you saying the likelihood or the intensity is increased during the summer?

Personally, I wouldn't know.

The less clothing we wear the more likely rape is
to happen because we are uncontrollable no matter what
we wish to think.

Well, I'd agree nakedness leads to thoughts of sex but as a society there are still people who feel morally and lawfully bound.

Let's say potential rapists are more likely to rape if there are less obstacles.

I enjoy being naked, however I would not enjoy the looks
being thrown my way or the evaluation of my body. Also it
would make me really uncomfortable to see people aroused :x

Would you still feel this way if your body's actions made people aroused? I mean as a mutual experience?

Perhaps if we had evolved to embrace nudity we wouldn't
have these problems, but trying to overcome them is
very difficult. It's easier to take the temptation away from the
animal than it is to change the animal. It takes seventy generations
just to domesticate a fox and even then they are not fully
domesticated. As humans we like to think we're domestic, but truly, we're not.

Like the skin protects our other organs, clothing protects our skin. Humans do a lot of mechanical work(well we used to at least), there're too many risks already without adding axes and hammers.

Though I can see naked lifestyles prospering in woodlands or prairies.

Being naked has never seemed sexy to me.

Clothing is a very wonderful thing.

Disagree with the former, agree with the latter.

 

[SpaceYeti]

A lot of girls are only valued for their looks.
It's really shitty.

Maybe they don't have any other marketable abilities. I don't see how it's shitty that people with boring or shallow personalities aren't valued for their personality instead of the good features they do have. Just because you have a personality, it doesn't mean people are going to like it. Ugly people may have a fantastic intellect and personality, so much that you're willing to overlook their repulsive appearance, just as pretty people might have a bad personality and may be stupid. Hell, at least these people have something good. There's also the smart, beautiful people with good personalities, as well as the ugly people who are stupid and have a bad personality. At least 49% of people are going to be below average in appearance, or intellect, or personality, or whatever.

Further, sure, there are also guys who don't care about personality. That's certainly not all of them, however.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

What about girls who are only valued for their personality?

 

[SpaceYeti]

They don't complain about it, I guess.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I honestly don't think we were meant to embrace nudity, as we aren't equipped to survive the elements without clothes. I consider them armor, partially job related but also in defense of a hostile world.

Also, if nudity was a day to day commonality sex would become pretty damned mundane.

For some people it already is.

I remember when I was young, simply being naked seemed sexy. Not because I thought I was attractive, but because I was naked, and I had access to my sex parts unlike that I normally had, and it was out there, right in the open. Now that I'm older, I'm generally naked as much as I can be. Not because of any sexual thrill, but because I'm simply comfortable that way. Clothes, no matter how thin or comfortable, are never as comfortable as being naked. I'm naked right now, if you don't count my blanket. I'm curious if anyone else has had a development like this. Perhaps some people never even get this far. It seems many people associate nudity with sex, hence censoring and societal laws on the subject. Thoughts?

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[EyeSeeCold]

Wait, why is this in Human Relationships?

 

[Melllvar]

Don't worry, it'll be in Oubliette soon.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

There is a link between exposed flesh and sex. In the
summer you typically have more sex, why?

ehhhh. I'm fairly certain this is wrong. Could you provide links?

Couples have more sex than sexual active singles, why? opportunity.
At the very least in agrarian societies, couples would have much more downtime and energy during the winter, so therefor more sex.

In the US, August and September have the highest birthrates, which suggests late autumn and early winter.

 

[Melllvar]

In the US August and September have the highest birthrates, which suggests late autumn and early winter.

That leaves out all the cases where people are having sex and not reproducing though, which is probably the majority of sex. I'd guess that a lot (majority even?) of people who are reproducing together are married, or at least couples, so the "showing skin" thing probably wouldn't apply as much. You may be right, but anecdotally it does seem like more people are getting together in the spring and summer, from what I've seen. May also have to do with people getting outside and meeting people more.

Interesting question: is there more sex, dating, etc. in warmer climates than in cold? If this is true then more people should be having sex in places like Hawaii and Florida than in Alaska or northern Canada. Perhaps we could look at STD rates by region? That would seem to be another piece of evidence, one way or the other.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Wait, why is this in Human Relationships?

Where would it better go? Is sex not a human manner of relating?

 

[SpaceYeti]

That leaves out all the cases where people are having sex and not reproducing though, which is probably the majority of sex. I'd guess that a lot (majority even?) of people who are reproducing together are married, or at least couples, so the "showing skin" thing probably wouldn't apply as much. You may be right, but anecdotally it does seem like more people are getting together in the spring and summer, from what I've seen. May also have to do with people getting outside and meeting people more.

Interesting question: is there more sex, dating, etc. in warmer climates than in cold? If this is true then more people should be having sex in places like Hawaii and Florida than in Alaska or northern Canada. Perhaps we could look at STD rates by region? That would seem to be another piece of evidence, one way or the other.

That goes back to novelty. If you see a lot of skin commonly, it's not as novel and doesn't attract your attention as much.

 

[Hadoblado]

I remember when I was young, simply being naked seemed sexy. Not because I thought I was attractive, but because I was naked, and I had access to my sex parts unlike that I normally had, and it was out there, right in the open. Now that I'm older, I'm generally naked as much as I can be. Not because of any sexual thrill, but because I'm simply comfortable that way. Clothes, no matter how thin or comfortable, are never as comfortable as being naked. I'm naked right now, if you don't count my blanket. I'm curious if anyone else has had a development like this. Perhaps some people never even get this far. It seems many people associate nudity with sex, hence censoring and societal laws on the subject. Thoughts?

My house mates face when I get home from uni and my shirt is left at the door, my pants are off by the time I've crossed the room, and then I spread out somewhere in the lounge or dining room. I'm from Tasmania which is generally not very hot, which means when it does warm up I really can't handle the heat.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

That leaves out all the cases where people are having sex and not reproducing though, which is probably the majority of sex. I'd guess that a lot (majority even?) of people who are reproducing together are married, or at least couples, so the "showing skin" thing probably wouldn't apply as much. You may be right, but anecdotally it does seem like more people are getting together in the spring and summer, from what I've seen. May also have to do with people getting outside and meeting people more.

Interesting question: is there more sex, dating, etc. in warmer climates than in cold? If this is true then more people should be having sex in places like Hawaii and Florida than in Alaska or northern Canada. Perhaps we could look at STD rates by region? That would seem to be another piece of evidence, one way or the other.

'seems' 'guess' - You don't actually know anything.
I've looked and I haven't seen anything to back up bird's statement.

If you want to base your understanding of the world merely on what seems true to your tiny world view (without a lick of real evidence) go ahead. You're not the only one. To keep with the use of fail logic, then people must have more sex when it's cold outside in order to keep warm.

Naturally there's a strong correlation between sex and childbirth. You're proposing that people have less sex during winter time, yet produce more children for some reason. Have you a legitimate reason for this or is the rationale it's possible and I think it's true, so it must be true?

 

[Hadoblado]

. In the summer you typically have more sex, why? Certainly not because the weather makes it more enjoyable (slip and slide sweaty sex, need I say more) but because arousal levels are higher due to lack of clothing and exposed
skin.

But slip and slide sex is by far my favourite kind! Seriously, if you don't like slip and slide sex I'm pretty sure we can't be friends

 

[cheese]

I always wonder how things work in tribes with what we'd consider more or less complete nudity. Boobs hanging out everywhere with maybe a tiny strip of loincloth for modesty. I'm sure that loincloth has a lot of significance even if you keep accidentally getting glimpses of the goods. Maybe the equivalent of a striptease involves slowly removing your tiny mice skull earrings, bones of your ancestors necklace, and then teasing off the one-inch goat-penis hide on your pubic region. Or is sex just kinda meh for them? Or are they perpetually turned on? Does anyone know? What do their body coverings mean to them?

 

[Black Rose]

My brother sleeps naked. (1 year born prior to I)

He once murderously attacked me naked when my aunt and I were arguing, The Police arrived 8 minutes latter, handcuffed him then my mother got him some pants.

Not that SpaceYetti would do something like that but seems to me the glory of Sparta is a prerequisite to womenization if not the main factor.

"We Spartans are descendants from Hercules himself, taught never to retreat, never to surrender, for the death in the battlefield is the greatest glory could achieve in his life, Spartans, the finest soldiers the world has ever known"

 

[MissQuote]

I just turned around from my seat, after reading the OP, and asked my guy when the first time he saw my mom naked was. He got a scrunched up look of thought on his face. We can't remember if it was the first time he met her or the second time he came over. (we have know eachother/been together since we were teenagers [I was 14 he was 17 when we first met/became friends/lovers])

To make the above clear, I was raised by a nudist.

It has only been in recent years that I have begun to feel anything like shame or sexuality in being naked, I mean in just the fact of lack of clothing. And it mostly comes from a combination of being wary of my body not being up to the standard of fittness I think it could be for my age (30) and finally starting to understand sexuality in a more mass type pattern (the way society thinks about it).

Anyway. I think naked it good, maybe the bast way to be, but I am unlikey at this point to be that way on purpose in front of anyone I do not know very well.

 

[Hadoblado]

My brother sleeps naked.

Have you ever walked in on him while he was asleep? I have a friend who I used to live with, and I once walked in and he was in a worship like stance facing away from me, fast asleep and completely naked. I got the full force of his bum hole staring me the hell down. I buggered off laughing and he still doesn't know

 

[Black Rose]

Have you ever walked in on him while he was asleep?

Several times we played video games when he was naked and I was clothed.

Sex jokes involving him piss him off.

Rape'ish jokes he makes piss me off.

 

[Bird]

Maybe they don't have any other marketable abilities. I don't see how it's shitty that people with boring or shallow personalities aren't valued for their personality instead of the good features they do have. Just because you have a personality, it doesn't mean people are going to like it. Ugly people may have a fantastic intellect and personality, so much that you're willing to overlook their repulsive appearance, just as pretty people might have a bad personality and may be stupid. Hell, at least these people have something good. There's also the smart, beautiful people with good personalities, as well as the ugly people who are stupid and have a bad personality. At least 49% of people are going to be below average in appearance, or intellect, or personality, or whatever.

Further, sure, there are also guys who don't care about personality. That's certainly not all of them, however.

22-11-2010, 15:16


Today it hit me: I have no marketable skills.


Yesterday I saw my grandma.
After a long and detailed conversation
in which I explained to her my gif
obsession and my need to create she
looks at me and says "and you sell
these?".


...


No.

I know I have a shitty personality, thank you.
I made a poll about it not even twenty-four
hours ago. How ironic.

 

[Black Rose]

I know I have a shitty personality, thank you.
I made a poll about it not even twenty-four
hours ago. How ironic.

Thank you for 14th-November-2010

And I do mean it.

 

[Melllvar]

'seems' 'guess' - You don't actually know anything.
I've looked and I haven't seen anything to back up bird's statement.

If you want to base your understanding of the world merely on what seems true to your tiny world view (without a lick of real evidence) go ahead. You're not the only one. To keep with the use of fail logic, then people must have more sex when it's cold outside in order to keep warm.

Pfft, you can get emotional and insulting if you want. I'd rather just debate the facts. I'm merely pointing out the flaws in your own argument, which you seem like you'd rather ignore and just call the other party stupid instead of actually making any kind of point.

I'm surprised I have to keep explaining this, but words like "guess" and "seems" are used to denote a lack of certainty when making speculation, as in the statement: "It seems colder at the top of mountains than at the bottom, so I'd guess temperature decreases as a function of elevation." Falsehood of the statement does not follow from acknowledging uncertainty when making it.

Naturally there's a strong correlation between sex and childbirth.

Congratulations on picking up on this.

You're proposing that people have less sex during winter time, yet produce more children for some reason. Have you a legitimate reason for this or is the rationale it's possible and I think it's true, so it must be true?

No, that is not what I'm proposing. I was explaining that most childbirth happening in certain months doesn't necessarily mean the entire population has more sex nine months preceding that. It may be true, but it doesn't necessarily follow from what you've said. It could just as easily be true that sex rates don't change by season, or more people have sex in summer than in winter, but more couples decide to have babies in winter than in summer.

That goes back to novelty. If you see a lot of skin commonly, it's not as novel and doesn't attract your attention as much.

Good point, this would seem to mean looking at different regions and finding no correlation wouldn't necessarily imply anything (even beyond the obvious correlation != causation thing). Even if the 'effect' is true it's probably (uncertainty again!) relative to what people are used to seeing, as (from what I've heard) people at nudist places get desensitized to the attraction to naked people pretty fast.

 

[Cogwulf]

I always wonder how things work in tribes with what we'd consider more or less complete nudity. Boobs hanging out everywhere with maybe a tiny strip of loincloth for modesty. I'm sure that loincloth has a lot of significance even if you keep accidentally getting glimpses of the goods. Maybe the equivalent of a striptease involves slowly removing your tiny mice skull earrings, bones of your ancestors necklace, and then teasing off the one-inch goat-penis hide on your pubic region. Or is sex just kinda meh for them? Or are they perpetually turned on? Does anyone know? What do their body coverings mean to them?

They need somewhere to put their money.

Loincloths are probably also a good idea for people who carry sharp spears around with them all day.


But in such tribes everyone knows everyone else, so if rape or any unwanted advancements should occur, it would be hard to avoid punishment. And from the very little I know from documentaries, I also think relationships within such tribes are usually heavily ritualised and controlled. These rituals moderate humans animalistic tendancies, whereas we use clothes for this instead.

 

[kantor1003]

As spaceyeti said, "when you see a lot of skin commonly, it's not as novel and doesn't attract your attention as much". Following up on this shouldn't we expect people to have the highest libido in early spring when people are starting to take their clothes off?

I wonder, if we walked around naked all the time, wouldn't sex be even less exciting?

 

[SpaceYeti]

I know I have a shitty personality, thank you.
I made a poll about it not even twenty-four
hours ago. How ironic.

I don't know you well enough to attempt to contradict you.

 

[SpaceYeti]

As spaceyeti said, "when you see a lot of skin commonly, it's not as novel and doesn't attract your attention as much". Following up on this shouldn't we expect people to have the highest libido in early spring when people are starting to take their clothes off?

I wonder, if we walked around naked all the time, wouldn't sex be even less exciting?

Doubtful. Seeing flesh would be less excited.

 

[Yet]

You're such a woman, Bird. Your manner of thinking... well, it just doesn't make sense. Why would you not enjoy being found sexy?

que?
What has not making sense to do with woman? Making sense is not sex related whatsoever. I have read enough male and female publications to be quite sure of that.

& what sort of logic is there behind always enjoying being found sexy? There are exeptions obviously. Especially if your not interested yourself. I hate being found sexy by macho morons b.e., all I can think of then = f*ck of and find some emptyhead to match.

As for the OP
walking around naked is oké ... feeling cold sucks
and
I would not do it in public except in sauna

 

[Architect]

Everything dulls with age, depressing as that may sound. Just holding hands with a girl used to be enough to send me into orbit, now after having kids and sex (how many times?), well, you know, its just not quit as new as it used to be.

Same with lots of stuff, why do you think old men like to steam themselves at 150 degrees in the sauna after getting baked on martinis?

Generally I don't like being naked, even though I'm pretty hot for my age (or any age actually considering how fat kids are these days)

 

[SpaceYeti]

que?
What has not making sense to do with woman? Making sense is not sex related whatsoever. I have read enough male and female publications to be quite sure of that.

& what sort of logic is there behind always enjoying being found sexy? There are exeptions obviously. Especially if your not interested yourself. I hate being found sexy by macho morons b.e., all I can think of then = f*ck of and find some emptyhead to match.

As for the OP
walking around naked is oké ... feeling cold sucks
and
I would not do it in public except in sauna

It means you always look good. If you stop being sexy, it means you don't look good. To men, there is no difference between a woman looking pretty, and a woman looking "hot". That's an invention of women. If we say a woman is "beautiful", we're also saying "she's hot", and vice verse.

Oh, and making sense totally is sex related, or else women would do it more. (this line of our conversation is primarily a joke).

 

[Yet]

It means you always look good. If you stop being sexy, it means you don't look good. To men, there is no difference between a woman looking pretty, and a woman looking "hot". That's an invention of women. If we say a woman is "beautiful", we're also saying "she's hot", and vice verse.

I don't know what you're going on about, or out of which sky this 'answer' dropped but there must be some 'male logic' going on (don't worry, just kidding).
Can you enlighten me and tell me what women 'invented' as you stated above? You seem to know more about that than me.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Jokes and/or Insults

Women invent a lot of BS.

 

[MissQuote]

Wouldn't 'hot' be more overtly sexual than 'beautiful'? Beautiful is more subtle.

A painting of an attractive naked woman could be seen as beautiful.

A photograph of the same naked woman could be seen more easily as hot.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Wouldn't 'hot' be more overtly sexual than 'beautiful'? Beautiful is more subtle.

A painting of an attractive naked woman could be seen as beautiful.

A photograph of the same naked woman could be seen more easily as hot.

It's only subtle because there's this invented disconnect between the two words. If you say "beautiful" it somehow means more than a word that has the same implication, even though it means the same basic thing.

Then, I also don't really find anything "beautiful" except sexy women. Still, I don't see how a woman can be attractive and not sexually appealing. Maybe "beautiful" is presumed to be less sexually charged than "hot" because a mountain range can be "beautiful", but it can't be "hot" (following the context). The word means more stuff in other contexts, so it's presumed to mean more within context as well.

 

[Melkor]

Nuppp...

I'm afraid we don't have the climate for that, nor do I have the physique.

I'm the sort to wear as much clothes as possible whenever possible.

I feel naked even without my watch and wrist bands...