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Seducer: liked or disliked

Do you like Seducer? (1=worst, 10=best)

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    Votes: 2 6.5%
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    Votes: 4 12.9%
  • 9

    Votes: 5 16.1%
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    Votes: 5 16.1%
  • I saw the poll but I refuse to vote for a number.

    Votes: 10 32.3%

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right, seducer feels uncomfortable, very uncomfortable. has for a while.

be honest now....

Do You Like Seducer?



i may be forced into leaving or lurking...

:(

(rating 1-10, 10 = best / 1 =worst)

(don't worry, this is my last self pity thread)
 

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Yes. It's nice having someone around who isn't a grumpy git all the time.
 
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hahahaha.........Sarcastic Ulysses....
 

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I'm not being sarcastic. :(
 
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oh, thanks

i am always miserable
 

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Honestly, you aren't disliked at all. The only thing I didn't like about you was that spastic twitching picture you used to have in your signature. Could explain why you think you're disliked?

I smell a serious inferiority complex...
 
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hmm....

i just get the feeling everyone just thinks "oh god! Seducer's here. godammit! annoying little emo"

inferiority: yes, i honestly do feel inferior

i feel very uncomfortable (believing people dislike me) and not at all confident to post

(and how pathetic and emo my posts sound "ooh, i suck. my life sucks. i am hopeless" i sound very pathetic)
 

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Yep, that's your inner pessimist talking. Personally, I don't ever think "annoying little emo" every time I see you on the forum. That being said, I haven't seen much of you, so I don't know exactly what to think.
 
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i don't really post in serious threads.

i don't have confidence to (am not smart enough)

and people don't want me to
 

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I like you substantially, seducer. You are essentially me fifteen years ago, so how can I not?

Methinks you need to find a creative outlet that helps you recognize your strengths. Got one?
 

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When you read things you don't like between the lines, it could be because you wrote it there as a joke but later lost your memory.
 
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haha...

i know.

i promise this the last of my self-pity (you will see, at least)

i will develop more apathy and bottle things up, in time it will all pass
 

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i don't really post in serious threads.

i don't have confidence to (am not smart enough)

How do you think I feel when I write seven paragraphs on a subject and get rebuffed by one line. One line that I completely agree with and makes me realize that I was making an ass out of myself, and now have the longest post in the thread to prove it.

You're right, it is about confidence. This place has done wonders for mine, but its not about smarts. Even someone who was quite obviously clueless (which you clearly aren't) could provide real substance to this forum by providing their perspective. That's all that we require from you.

and people don't want me to

Classic INTP. Seeing the future clearly, without themselves in it. When I was a kid and teams were being picked for kickball, I always tried to figure out which team was better, but I never considered for a second that I might actually make the team better by joining. I still fall into that habit, even on things I'm quite good at.

We want the enrichment that you bring.

P.S. I wonder if I would have the highest post count if all the posts I've deleted were tallied in...

P.P.S. Maybe we should start a "Guess I'll go eat worms" thread in the arena so we can get some of our self-loathing off our chests.
 
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ok :)

i will try...
 

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POLL!

Also I am indifferent
 

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When I was a kid and teams were being picked for kickball, I always tried to figure out which team was better, but I never considered for a second that I might actually make the team better by joining. I still fall into that habit, even on things I'm quite good at.

Why would you consider your impact on the team, anyway? Whichever team you join will be that much better (or worse) if you're on it! :D
 

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i don't really post in serious threads.

i don't have confidence to (am not smart enough)

and people don't want me to

There's no such thing as "not smart enough" in the serious threads. The only thing that isn't appreciated is rudeness. When I first started out in this place and saw the serious threads, I felt seriously inadequate too. I still feel that way sometimes. I see a lot of myself in you. I used to think that I'm never good enough, that people wouldn't want me trying anyway. After I got over that hurdle, it was so liberating. The awkwardness of getting out of your comfort zone is totally worth it.

A big example of this in my life was when I tried debate last year. Before that, I didn't even consider it due to the aforementioned inadequacies and assumptions about myself. I was so awkward in debate starting out. It was all one big "serious thread", but in a spoken version. I was working so hard just to get by with everyone else on the team. I've never won a tournament, I haven't even made it to semifinals. But after a while, I started to feel comfortable in that environment even though I wasn't the best of the best, according to the rankings.
 
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thanks Ermine :)

my problem is when evaluating intelligence i compare to Da Vinci, looks Johnny Depp, Musical Genius: Frank Zappa, Mike Patton, Devin Townesend, Beethoven is how i evaluate myself.

now obviously i am not even close to any of these people, and anything below their standard is failure

is this an Inferiority Complex at work?
 
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thanks Ermine :)

my problem is when evaluating intelligence i compare to Da Vinci, looks Johnny Depp, Musical Genius: Frank Zappa, Mike Patton, Devin Townesend, Beethoven is how i evaluate myself.

now obviously i am not even close to any of these people, and anything below their standard is failure

is this an Inferiority Complex at work?

High standards are fine just so long as they are realistic. There's no way you can be any of those guys because they've been working much longer than you in their different spheres, and people idolize them. Let's take Beethoven for example. He is mostly a posthumous legend, idolized to the max. He was a musical genius, but he had all sorts of problems. He was hard of hearing/deaf for most of his life, he never had any success with women, bad family life when he was a kid, and to everyone else, he was a weird cantankerous deaf guy who banged on the piano all day. This is certainly not an ideal, even if you are a musical genius.
 

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It's an inability to view things objectively. I have/ have had the same problem. My seven year old son does the same thing on a smaller scale. He'll play basketball with his father and get upset and frustrated because he can't shoot as well as him. He doesn't seem to understand that a grown man who is two feet taller than him is capable of doing something better than him.

When I was younger I was positive I was a genius. I was certain that brilliant ideas would just magically come to me; if I were to pick up a pen, the next William Shakespeare would be uncovered. One of my biggest fears was that The Virgin Mary would come to me and I would have to be a saint. I am afraid to complete this book I'm working on because I am afraid that it won't be spectacular, which of course it shouldn't be because it is the first novel I am to write.

I think it might have something to do with extraverted intuition. We view all of the potentialities and have difficulty differentiating between ourselves and the external.
 

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is this an Inferiority Complex at work?

Not to kick you when you're down, but it shows poor judgment skills. You're not comparing yourself to individuals, but to legacies, which you are not. Legacies have no learning curve. They do not make mistakes. People do.

Try comparing yourself to people you know more about if you're going to do it at all. Better yet, perform a controlled experiment where you compare specific performance results with the results of another individual. This is not in order to feel superior to that person, because as you know, a single test result bears effectively no weight on a person's overall effectiveness. All you need to convince yourself of, is that you possess some skills that are finely tuned. Those skills in combination gives you abilities that others do not possess. Those abilities in combination give you the capability to do things that others can't, or at least can't do as well.

If you don't need to compare yourself to another individual to believe that, all the better. Just don't compare yourself to ghosts or its like playing tennis against a wall... you just can't win.
 
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brain: are you a genius?

decaf: kick me when down?! course not. all of your posts(including that one) are very insightful. i found this helpful :)
 

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I doubt it. But I also know that I am not performing to my potential. But I also know I no longer care whether I am a genius or not. Seducer, read my post on INXP with the INFP profile from typology central. My guess is it will resonate with you.

And I consider you a t-e-n.
 
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thank you! :)

you think i am infp?
 
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do my complaints sound INFP?

they are probably (along with a couple of other things) my state of mind


i can't decide between Ti and Fi
 
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hahahahaha....who gave me 1 :)

cheeky bastard :D


have the balls to admit! :D
 

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If you would be any older I'd be seriously worried about you. First, people don't like people who loathe themselves. For most of us this gnawing self-doubt is part of our nature since we all are human beings and want to be accepted by society. But we INXX (I guess that's what most of us are) rarely find a place in a society that mostly consists of SJ types which rarely understand what we are doing. Thus many of us end up alone and depressed - and we ask ourselves Why? Why is that so?. We analyze and then the question Is it me or is it everyone else? appears. It seems tempting to assume that not-fitting-in is oneselves fault since everyone else seems to be happy and one is the minority that is depressed.
So what can one do? I say it is important to realize that no matter how much us divides us from the rest of humanity there is still so much that connects us with them. It's not so much about liking but more about accepting the difference.
So if you think you are inappropiate you have two options: accept it or try to improve - but don't bitch about it.
 
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i am still in the considering what the hell to do stage, i keep bitching because i am trying to establish what i feel (i still don't fully understand) and who i am.

once i figure this out i will work on life improvement :)

(the other option: deal with it - i am not 100% sure on self-reinvention and want very much to be different but also want to be kind of melancholy, not some ESFP. i think (so far at least) that an air of sadness is who i am and who i am is the most important thing for me. my path and identity. (so irrepressibly INFP :D)

i only bitch to get feedback, (and also to let my emotions out, not bottle up. it is supposed to be healthy) feedback to help me decide who i am.
 

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Seducer:

Keep up the cheeky posts. Yeah, they're melancholy sometimes, but never boring.
 

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do my complaints sound INFP?

they are probably (along with a couple of other things) my state of mind


i can't decide between Ti and Fi

Read my links on the INxP- the one about introverted feeling vs. introverted thinking, and then the one with the definition of INFP from typology central. (It might not be up yet, but you can just go to the t.c. website and look it up.)

I think we INFPs care a bit more what others think of us, those whom we respect or admire especially. Also, I think introverted feelers can come off as introverted thinkers because we spend a lot of time in our head, ruminating. The primary difference, I think, is we tend to be more idealistic, and everything takes on a more personal bent- like 'how does this relate to me?' vs. 'Does this make sense logically?'

If things in our lives (INFPs) are not in personal equilibrium (not living up to our expectations, being ignored by someone we care about, etc), I think we tend to throw everything out the window, think everything needs to change. We are not the right person, not living the right life, not believing in the right things. When all that needs to happen is that we need to make minor changes, like channeling our feelings and thoughts into something, even if it's something as inconsequential as doodling for twenty minutes.

But maybe INTPs are this way, too.
 

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I feel uncomfortable but I'm not making a hundreds of threads about it!!!!


hmmm, Sense much uncertainty in you, I do Seducer........hmmmm Your future is clouded, be weary of the dark side you must!
 
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Venture: forgive me! i am making even more of an ass of myself than usual :)


i fear my inadequacy and inferiority are gripping my life. i cannot concentrate in school and it is becoming increasingly difficult to make decisions without feeling inadequate and stupid. if when watching a Murder Mystery and i miss a clue i feel like a part of me dies, in music i give a wrong answer i near enough cry and question if i am becoming stupider. i struggle with even basic decisions because of inadequacy. i genuinely feel inadequate with anything at school and am i think extremely scared of school work for this reason. i am extremely self-conscious about me and anything i do.

could i be getting less intelligent? (yes, EVEN less...)
 

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In this case you should seek professional help.
 
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:( :confused: :(
 

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If it's becoming debilitating and life-impacting, he may be right. Just be wary of SJ-psychologists :phear:... I've heard nothing good about them mixing with INxPs
 
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Because 25% of the voters felt sorry for you. Cheer up. :p
 

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i'm not sure who you are (haven't been as active on the forum as i used to be) but you seem to be making a lot of posts bashing yourself. i can only infer that you are hoping everyone will reply telling you how great you are and that you shouldn't be so hard on yourself, and hopefully boost your self esteem. i think thats even less healthy then the depression itself. only you are going to make yourself feel better (at least in the long run). constantly digging for sympathy is a short term fix, much like an addiction (trust me, i know a little something about addiction). my advice? stop worrying about whether other people like you and post in whatever topics interest you. people are going to disagree with you (and some of them will probably even be assholes about it), thats a garuntee in life. you shouldn't allow your self esteem to ride so much on what other people think about you, or its going to eat you alive.
 
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i honestly don't believe i am fishing for compliments, i am at best seeking comfort.

i basically want to understand who i am and what the fuck is going on (in my head). now part of who i am is what i give out, i want to understand this side.

also, there are many smart people and wiser people to help make sense of it all. closest i will go to real psychiatrists

(i also want to let out some pent up emotion)

there has become too much stuff in my head for me to make sense of, i need you lots help. i realise i am being annoying with all these emo threads and wondered how many there who don't mind me posting.
 
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i can't have an inferiority complex! my childhood was fine (though i felt a little trapped with no real friends, only one 'real' friend who treated me like shit. no actual trauma)
this means there are no demons to exorcise....



aargh.....my mind is turning to shit....

Is It Possible to be Getting Stupider?
 

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Okay, this is gonna hurt.
First, please stop whining.
I can see that you are unsatisfied with your life - most of us are. We all have our problems, there is a hell in all of us. But somehow we learned how to deal with it, we had to. In this dog-eat-dog world controlled by SJ there is no other choice but to bottle up our emotions.
That doesn't mean that your problems aren't important. In fact, for you they are the most important problems in the world because, well, they are your problems. That's alright and no one is in the position to judge about this.
Second, don't try to live up to others expectations. There will always be humans who hate you for merely existing or the wrong skin colour, wrong nationality and god knows what else. You are not able to satisfy everyone. Contrariwise it is important that you satisfy at least yourself. Forget about people who loathe you for being yourself.
Third, don't compare yourself to legends. Galileo, Newton, Da Vinci, etc. those may fall in the category "genius" but they are not real persons, they are myths who have been made larger than life by (pseudo-) historians and sometimes even by themselves. Y'know, many so-called geniuses had horrible lives and never sold anything during or got never acknowledged during their lifetimes. They still had to do lots of work on their own. Boring and tedious work for years - with uncertain outcome. They had flaws like veryone else; bad habits and weak characters.
People often idolize such folks and remove their banality to have a statue to raise.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to say it's wrong to strive for the impossible but it is of great importance to rationalize your goals and that failure is possible but not the end of the world.
Just do your best so that you can say at the end of your life At least, I tried it. With that you've already achieved more than most humans.
 

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Cheer up bud. Who cares if they don't like you. I like you and that means a lot ;)

Life sucks. It will always be too hard. No matter how hard you try it will never be good enough. Just enjoy what you have and don't try to live up to peoples expectations. Be satisfied with yourself.

From what I know you're still like 15 or 16 right? LoL. If I was smart as you when I was your age I would be much happier now. There will always be better days.
 

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i honestly don't believe i am fishing for compliments, i am at best seeking comfort.

i basically want to understand who i am and what the fuck is going on (in my head). now part of who i am is what i give out, i want to understand this side.

also, there are many smart people and wiser people to help make sense of it all. closest i will go to real psychiatrists

(i also want to let out some pent up emotion)

there has become too much stuff in my head for me to make sense of, i need you lots help. i realise i am being annoying with all these emo threads and wondered how many there who don't mind me posting.

You will never get comfort in this way. We may do our best to help you, but we're just voices coming from a computer, and you'll just say "How can I be comforted if I'm inadequate?" Am I right? I'm not going to contribute to that cycle. The only person who can end this is you, with the encouragement of others.

But seriously, get some help. You don't necessarily have to get professional help, but please get some help. Talk to someone, perhaps a mentor of yours, someone you admire and trust, one of those "smart people" you feel inadequate to. They'll be able to help you get this all into perspective. Though if this doesn't work, get a psychiatrist. I totally understand your disdain for the "system". To be honest, anyone can help you better than yourself.

And here's something I find helpful when I'm feeling inadequate: Make a list of 20, yes, 20 things you like about yourself. And no making comparisons to others.
 
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20 things?! but, that would be cocky (wait, i just realise i despise confidence, i think people should see things as they actually are)
(Dammit Seducer, Shut Up! :D)

right, 20 things....hmm.....without comparison to others......hmm.....
i will get it done
 
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