Power and will

[LOGICZOMBIE]

Tao Te Ching - get the book - its better to read it than to listen to it, but here is one version:

BINGO

 

[edmaster111]

What's the point of life if there will be winners and losers? of course its subjective but like what's the point of life it this is what can happen subjectively, maybe we shouldn't care about that? but the question still arises

 

[edmaster111]

Efilism is the answer?

 

[edmaster111]

What can the ubermensch do all day if he has nothing to do all day?

 

[edmaster111]

why would it take a long time to get the ubermensch into power?

 

[Black Rose]

why would it take a long time to get the ubermensch into power?

If you need personal help then make a thread about it in the lounge section of the forum.

 

[edmaster111]

ubermensch

self-regulation -> power/control of mind -> creativity


Like this right

 

[edmaster111]

anything new information on the ubermensch?

 

[edmaster111]

if the ubermensch can do 625 rule sets and the normal human can do 49 , what does it mean the ubermensch can be good at? Is it for being a business manager, is he a good fighter or what could that high mental speed good for

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

anything new information on the ubermensch?

 

[edmaster111]

I already seen that video, he needs to do part 2

 

[ZenRaiden]

ubermensch

self-regulation -> power/control of mind -> creativity


Like this right

Self control is ultimate power, it can open a human being to options that humans with little control cannot have.
The power of choice, and power of decision, power of options, power that overcomes limitations.

A person with little control and I would argue I am limited in this sense, can do only so much.

 

[edmaster111]

so what can this person do ? good fighter or good organization manager or what

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

so what can this person do ? good fighter or good organization manager or what

the ubermensch is more likely to be a hyper-intelligent artificial intelligence

 

[ZenRaiden]

so what can this person do ? good fighter or good organization manager or what

Good questions. Why not try to find out?

 

[edmaster111]

where are the people who would elevate this ubermman to power?

 

[EndogenousRebel]

Ask 1930-1940s Germany

 

[edmaster111]

@Black Rose

what u think?

 

[Black Rose]

@Black Rose

what u think?

do we need an uberman for something?

I thought the uberman just is who he/she is

above man as man is above ape

 

[edmaster111]

https://www.eoht.info/page/Uberman

Go towards the end where it says 'will to power + faust? '

 

[ZenRaiden]

 

[EndogenousRebel]

As long as people's economic needs are met, nobody cares.

When people are desperate, they are easier to control.

It's almost poetry that we opt to glorify people and individual's who are latently hell bent on destruction of the peoples interest.

It's like auto darwinistic suicide.

Who is to say what this uberman would do? Why would they help you over any other individual? What is this person's relationship to your health?

Roger Ebert - "We are the playthings of the gods."

Is this Uberman not just any other plaything subject to the dispassionate environment with it's own vices and devices, or are they a god?

 

[ZenRaiden]

Iq 220 is ubermensch.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

where are the people who would elevate this ubermman to power?

where are the people who would elevate jeff bezos to power ?

 

[Black Rose]

@edmaster111

ruling over people is not something the uberman would want to do

This person who is IQ 175+ ruling over a group of IQ 125 people would be like a person 125 ruling over people who are IQ 75

They would just not be compatible so the uberman is happier by himself.

 

[edmaster111]

So then how does he get power and success lol

 

[Black Rose]

what is power?

He defies all conceptions of power that normal people think of when it comes to power.

What is it like having 200+ IQ?

 

[edmaster111]

no man he is about power its a different kind of power its even more power than lets say a leader of a company,

he would be the leader of a company but he would still be able to live a good life doing what he wants within his company

 

[Black Rose]

So the mention that a person can be 160 IQ and still just draw stick figures really hit home. Maybe not in math or chess or anything where a person solves problems in their head real fast but in terms of abstract thought. I found out that drawing stick figures is associated with low white matter myelination. So my visual areas can't work together with the spatial aspect. Yet I can see where I might be good at creating new ideas. Pattern recognition is about the grey-matter thickness and it seems I have a greater tendency for cognitive control. The amygdala though is an issue, the one in the right brain. The right brain is visual and emotional and must be inhibited. Because I was constantly on edge I was suffering burnout in the right frontal lobe.

So far I have settled down anxiety-wise in the right amygdala. I think this is because I have been doing more sensory extraverted activities and people-related stuff. I was less active in thinking too much. I have been doing emotional processing while lying in bed semi-asleep. Knowing I feel bad and accepting the pain of trauma response in the sympathetic nervous system. I have been reintegrating my angry feelings too. I can read books now and other material without wanting to stop. I found the right level of books for my abilities and that helped allot also. The problem was the relentless urge to do something, which I did in the activities and now I have a calmer sense of things.

I saw the old movie Insideout recently and it seems different emotions can be male or female. This got me to think of how emotions can be gendered. By the fact that INTJ's can be male or female and usually females use words to express emotions rather than actions (male?) This could be why the personality analyzer classified me as a female INTJ at 40 years old one time. Not only can words be tonally evaluated but the contents can be screened for subject matters characteristic of those expressions with maturity.

I am trying to go back to school but I am worried that development may not be needed as much in the future. I have plans to write software in the future. I know that new tools exist that will make things easier. Specifically in automated learning tutorials, the machine helps you program itself. This is the new way forward in teaching kids programming so for adults it would make sense that so long as I buy a new computer I too can get these tools and make my own stuff without having to spend so much time at a university.

I am not so worried about my intelligence as I used to be but I am fascinated by what needs to be made in order for thought to emerge as cognitive parts working together. I know I will need an environmental setting for the process to happen. That is, if I am making an intelligent computer, I need a simulation for it to run inside of. And based on the data I have, I can make things now that I will have tools available. The project will be based on impulse control and abstraction of thought. Social aspects will be counted for as well. Avatars in the virtual setting(s).

 

[edmaster111]

no man he is about power its a different kind of power its even more power than lets say a leader of a company,

he would be the leader of a company but he would still be able to live a good life doing what he wants within his company

what u think

 

[Black Rose]

no man he is about power its a different kind of power its even more power than lets say a leader of a company,

he would be the leader of a company but he would still be able to live a good life doing what he wants within his company

what u think

You are talking about yourself in the third person.

Illeism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[edmaster111]

well i dont think anyone here knows what the ubermensch is then

it sucks