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Cheeseumpuffs

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I expected more to happen while I was gone.

The Australians should be waking up soon and it's roughly 7/8 pm for Yellow and Shamblesock, so I'm expecting to hear more from all of them soon.
 

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Smithcommajohn sets up camp outside of town, starts a small fire and cooks some beans in a makeshift pot. He looks up to the beautiful starlit sky and hears a howling in the distance.
 

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I literally just got out of bed and logged into the forum. Day didn't start before I went to bed last night. I'll have a quick read here then I have to be out the door.

Wait 24 hour day? Fuck. I've got visitors and we're out the whole day. I might need to be replaced. I'd like to play but the pressure to be tied to a computer pisses me off, so Pmj if you want to replace me go ahead. I literally don't have any more time; they're already waiting for me. I wasn't expecting the game to start soon, I haven't read the rules, I'm not in a good headspace.

I'll be back in 6-8 hours and can try harder then. Replace me before then if need be. Soz guys.
 

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Oh lol, the zoo is $40. Not doing that.

Probably still gonna be out though. Will know soon.
 

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Well, I'm going to sleep soon..

I'll assess my voting situ when I wake up.

I should get woken up by some cunt before EOD.
 

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Smithcommajohn sets up camp outside of town, starts a small fire and cooks some beans in a makeshift pot. He looks up to the beautiful starlit sky and hears a howling in the distance.

Who do you think is scum?
 

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Sorry guys, I'm here. I didn't realize the game had started. Let me catch up.
 

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Is he allowed to answer that? As of now he's still just a potential replacement, yeah?
Cheeseumpuffs is correct. I'm just a potential replacement and have no knowledge beyond this thread.
 

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The replacements are IN the thread? What.

Zoo's off. I'm still here, for a bit at least.
 

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You're going to be less excited when you find out that you're my strongest lead for scum at the moment.

/cheeseumpuffs

You're too jumpy for my comfort.

QuickTwist votes you basically to make you show up and start participating. You show up with some huge, try-hard thing, and then copy him with your vote. Then, you feel the need to point out to him that you've done the thing, so he should stop voting you. You clumsily try to accept the lingering vote afterward, while basically reminding him that he needs to move it before the deadline is up.
So.. we have basically nothing at this point.

I'm going to

/vote cheesumpuffs

because they have confirmed but not said anything yet.

Heh. 6/9. Nice.



shit in my bed shit in my bed shit in my bed

Had to be done, sorry. I won't do it again.



Very carefully.



I have some doubts about the logic of this plan, but am too afraid to speak my mind as it may make me seem like a wolf.

I'll shadow vote Cheeseumpuffs, for now I guess. :D



Very carefully.



Aw shit yeah, this is shorter. Can we get a day end timer in here? Or am I going to have to figure it all out on my own?



If you'd look at the signups thread you'll see that I mentioned corresponding with pmj (implying I'd confirmed for the game) right before mentioning that I was going to bed. I have just now awoken (at 1:30pm fuck my life) and should be good to play all day, provided my dog doesn't rip the stitches out of his face and need more emergency treatment.


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I'm going to try and keep this log updated. It will help me remember all of the people in the game and how I feel about them, as well as keep things organized re:people's suspicions and voting record.

Cheese - Confirmed yet no activity yet.
Cheeseumpuffs * - Active, votes cheese for same reason as QT vote on me (ie. seems like the only constructive thing to do atm)
Helvete - Active, joke wagons me (no implication)
Minuend - Active, no vote yet.
QuickTwist - Active, votes me for being a perceived lakelurk (reasoning gives me slight town bump to his read. Nothing major, but worth noting as it's the only sense of anyone's alignment I've gotten so far.
Redbaron - Active, votes Minu because of her big dong (no implication, at least about the game), Switches vote to Sinny due to her poor logic (valid point that her logic was dumb, probably not basis for real suspicion, though. No implication)
Sinny - Active, votes Helv (probably in response to his joke wagon. No implication)
Spaceblog - Unconfirmed
Yellow - Unconfirmed


/vote cheese, for the same reasons QT voted me. With the shorter, hectic day/night cycle it would be too convenient for someone just to be gone the entire day. I want to avoid letting anyone Artsu their way through the day. I'm unsure how to apply this line of reasoning to those who haven't confirmed yet, as I want to give them a chance to get in the game, but I'm also wary about the possibility of them lurking extra hard in order to seem like they're really out of the game.


Depends what drug you're on, imo.


QT, I'd appreciate you taking your vote off me.

Naw. I'll leave it on you for now. You shouldn't be concerned for one lousy vote on you. My reason for voting you has expired, yes, but I'm floating my vote. Floating is a poker strategy where you call bets instead of raising. IDK if you are Scum.. I don't know who else to vote, so it stays on you for now. My vote is not doing much right now, you have nothing to fear.

Yeah that's fair.

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By my count we have roughly 16 hours left for the day, yeah?
 

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You're going to be less excited when you find out that you're my strongest lead for scum at the moment.

/cheeseumpuffs

You're too jumpy for my comfort.

Less excited? Yes. Surprised? Not at all.

QuickTwist votes you basically to make you show up and start participating. You show up with some huge, try-hard thing, and then copy him with your vote. Then, you feel the need to point out to him that you've done the thing, so he should stop voting you. You clumsily try to accept the lingering vote afterward, while basically reminding him that he needs to move it before the deadline is up.

QT votes me to make me show up, with reasoning I believe is fully sound. I show up 2 hours later, on my own time, with an accumulated impression of everything that had taken place so far (in an attempt to account for one of my weaknesses so far in previous games, which is skimming past stuff and not forming a very cohesive impression of the game). Yes, I copy his reasoning, because it is good reasoning and because I have nothing much else to go on at the moment. Then, yes, I do point out to him that I've done the thing and would like him to move his vote since he'd had time to observe that I'd begun contributing (which was the basis of his vote on me). I then accepted (I dunno what this "clumsily" deal is) his reasoning because it's sound reasoning and we have (as of now) 11 hours for actual developments to happen. And the asking about the time thing wasn't meant to be a reminder to him or anyone, but rather clarification for myself (which I clearly needed, since at the time we were closer to 17 hours left instead of 16). When I add the "-------" stuff on a new line that basically means I'm on a new, unrelated train of thought.
 

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So do you have any reads yet? 60 posts in, someone must have struck you as possibly town or possibly scum by now.
 

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For example, if you turn out to be a wolf, I'm thinking Helvete is next.
 

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Nothing major. A couple small things that've given people bumps in one direction or my eyes, but nothing vote-worthy. Right now Scrapejog is most worthy of a vote since he's going full Artsu at the moment. I have a minor town bump on QT and minor wolf bumps on Minu and Sinny (less so sinny).

Here are my notes so far (was aiming to post it around the 75 post mark to keep it in the middle of the page and so that I could have a regularish number of posts pass by for each iteration of my notes):

Cheese - Active, claims extenuating irl circumstances. I'm inclined to believe him.(no implication)
Cheeseumpuffs * - Active, votes cheese for same reason as QT vote on me (ie. seemed like the only constructive thing to do atm, no implication of real suspicion). Cheese and Yellow arrive, unvotes cheese, votes Spacefog(pressure vote, no implication of suspicion)
Helvete - Active, joke wagons me (no vote, and no implication). Has been gone for a while (mdma comedown?)
Minuend - Active, no vote yet. Goes to bed without further input (watch)
QuickTwist - Active, votes me for being a perceived lakelurk (reasoning gives me slight town bump to his read. Nothing major, but worth noting)
Redbaron - Active, votes Minu because of her big dong (no implication, at least about the game), Switches vote to Sinny due to her poor logic (valid point that her logic was dumb, probably not basis for real suspicion, though. No implication)
Sinny - Active, votes Helv (probably in response to his joke wagon. No implication). Goes to bed without further input (watch)
Spaceblog - Unconfirmed
Yellow - Active. Votes me, with small presented case (actual suspicion, seems town-motivated (be aware of wolf going for easy target (you), though))


Again, when I say minor I mean minor.
 

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So if the day was ending in 30 seconds, would you be satisfied to leave your vote on Staplehog?
 

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Yes.

He's not present. Town or wolf he's useless/unconstructive (at the moment). No one else has displayed a lurker's amount of uslessness/unconstructiveness yet, imo.
 

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That doesn't make sense, though. There's 6 town and 3 wolves. Normally, in 9 player games, there are two scum, not three, and those ones still have slightly more mafia wins than town.

With three wolves, a Town lynch today could literally land us in lylo tomorrow. If Shapelog doesn't confirm soon, he'll be replaced, and we'll have a chance to read his replacement. If you're cool with lynching an unknown slot simply due to inactivity, I think I'm happy leaving my vote where it is for now.

But here's the thing: It's getting pretty late, and I doubt I'm going to be up at 6am on a Sunday morning, which is when this game ends. My vote sitting on you won't do you any harm if you can either find us someone better or convince everyone else you're town.

Good luck!
 

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That doesn't make sense, though. There's 6 town and 3 wolves. Normally, in 9 player games, there are two scum, not three, and those ones still have slightly more mafia wins than town.

With three wolves, a Town lynch today could literally land us in lylo tomorrow. If Shapelog doesn't confirm soon, he'll be replaced, and we'll have a chance to read his replacement. If you're cool with lynching an unknown slot simply due to inactivity, I think I'm happy leaving my vote where it is for now.

But here's the thing: It's getting pretty late, and I doubt I'm going to be up at 6am on a Sunday morning, which is when this game ends. My vote sitting on you won't do you any harm if you can either find us someone better or convince everyone else you're town.

Good luck!

I would normally never suggest this, but perhaps No-Lynch is an option? Besides that, Town have some PR so getting some much needed night actions would be what I am thinking is needed for this game. If someone gets something tonight, obviously they are going to have to share that Day 2, since it will effectively be MyLo.
 

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With three wolves, a Town lynch today could literally land us in lylo tomorrow.

Fug. Yeah. I was just doing the same math here.

If Shapelog doesn't confirm soon, he'll be replaced, and we'll have a chance to read his replacement. If you're cool with lynching an unknown slot simply due to inactivity, I think I'm happy leaving my vote where it is for now.

And if/when he gets replaced and we get something to work with my vote will probably change.

I wouldn't say I'm "cool" with lynching an unknown, but at present I personally see no other likely avenues.

But here's the thing: It's getting pretty late, and I doubt I'm going to be up at 6am on a Sunday morning, which is when this game ends. My vote sitting on you won't do you any harm if you can either find us someone better or convince everyone else you're town.

I'm honestly (surprisingly) not worried. I think most of my "looking suspicious" business comes from my relatively high post volume and my natural squirreliness. Over the next 10 hours there should be more activity, meaning more likely candidates (and if there isn't increased activity town is fucked anyway).

Good luck!

Thanks!
 

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I would normally never suggest this, but perhaps No-Lynch is an option? Besides that, Town have some PR so getting some much needed night actions would be what I am thinking is needed for this game. If someone gets something tonight, obviously they are going to have to share that Day 2, since it will effectively be MyLo.
I'm actually okay with the idea of a No-Lynch today, if everyone disagrees with me on Cheeseumpuffs.

What do you think about Cheesums at this point? I might be confbiasing here, because his last post reads to me as "I'm going to say and do what I need to do in order to get you to please take your vote off me."
 

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For example, if you turn out to be a wolf, I'm thinking Helvete is next.

Why, because I may be joke bussing or something else?

I don't really think that cheeseums is likely scum based off qt's pressure vote and how he reacted, trying to find something of substance from, bare beginnings of interactions. You asked him if you're happy with lyching inactive if there was no time left and yet you're going to leave soon with a vote that really doesn't have much weight behind it either.
 

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I would normally never suggest this, but perhaps No-Lynch is an option? Besides that, Town have some PR so getting some much needed night actions would be what I am thinking is needed for this game. If someone gets something tonight, obviously they are going to have to share that Day 2, since it will effectively be MyLo.

I'm on the fence. (inb4 someone thinks my indecisiveness is scummy (get with the program, I'm indecisive and I'm working through my reasoning as I post so I don't even know what my final thought on the matter will be)).

I don't necessarily think the benefit afforded by a no lynch is really all that great. We don't know which power roles we have or how many. And the no-lynch doesn't even guarantee us an extra night (we still only get one if we end up nolynching today and mislynching tomorrow).

That said. If we have power roles, they'll at least have something to go on. Even if they don't come up with a smoking gun tonight, they'll at least have more to go on tomorrow than they/we do today.

So our possibilities (considering mislynch and no lynch only (obviously a good lynch would be ideal)) look something like

Mislynch today --> game is lylo. We're down two town members (and we can only hope neither of the two of them aren't power roles) --> power roles who haven't been killed have their night actions for information, as well as any information revealed by the mislynch. Hopefully that's enough information to be able to make it through three days of lylo.

OR

No lynch today --> game is mylo. Power roles will have been able to collect whatever data it is they collect and make a more informed decision than we as a collective can make today. --> less likely to mislynch means less likely to end in a loss than our currently likelihood to end up at lylo, however lylo seems pretty much inevitable, so is it better to wait and have to stave off defeat itself? or not wait and deal with lylo instead?


OR
New thought, just had this.
We double up on the no-lynch (ie no lynch today and tomorrow). That way we make it to day 3 with the same body count as if we had mislynched tonight, but with the added bonus that we'll have had two days worth of discussion as well as (hopefully) two nights of power role activity. This option actually looks pretty tasty to me, unless someone sees a flaw with it that I haven't detailed?
 

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Nothing major. A couple small things that've given people bumps in one direction or my eyes, but nothing vote-worthy. Right now Scrapejog is most worthy of a vote since he's going full Artsu at the moment.

I actually really dislike this post for 2 reasons:
1. Spacedog hasn't even responded to his role PM. That's not indicative of an alignment.
2. He's not the type of player to pull an Artsu. He has internet issues that we know of and he was mislynched for this last game.

On both counts this is an easy way for scum to play on pre-existing fears that scum will lurk to victory, against a slot that has no opportunity to fight back. Exact thing happened recently.

/vote Cheesescumpuffs
 

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Yellow gets a town sticker for saying that as well. I stopped reading to respond to that Cheeseums post before continuing.
 

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his last post reads to me as "I'm going to say and do what I need to do in order to get you to please take your vote off me."

Really? That wasn't what my post was supposed to read as :confused:

I don't actually mind that you've voted me (if I did mind I probably would've started swearing by now, which is actually odd that I haven't seeing as every other word out of my mouth lately has been "fuck"). No, I'm surprisingly (even to myself) zen about the game right now. There's no time pressure, and two votes doesn't make a landslide.

My post was supposed to come off as "It's cool that you've voted me, because I think more suspicious options will reveal themselves"
 

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Why, because I may be joke bussing or something else?

I don't really think that cheeseums is likely scum based off qt's pressure vote and how he reacted, trying to find something of substance from, bare beginnings of interactions. You asked him if you're happy with lyching inactive if there was no time left and yet you're going to leave soon with a vote that really doesn't have much weight behind it either.
Yes, if he proves to be a wolf, then your intro, and then your Q&A with QuickTwist looks a little suspicious. Again though, if he isn't a wolf, it's not quite enough to worry me.

So if you don't think he's a wolf, I suppose there's nothing to worry about! :)

As far as the vote goes, I was under the impression that we were required to have a vote by the end of the day. He is my best choice at the moment. Upon review, however, I can't find that rule anywhere.

Can someone help me confirm the rule on that?
 

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/Vote rb

Yeah quit asking spectators for their opinions on scum :p

In all seriousness though I'd like to hear a bit more input on stuff. A town rb wouldn't lurk as much in a game that's this short with lots of feral wolves.
 

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I actually really dislike this post for 2 reasons:
1. Spacedog hasn't even responded to his role PM. That's not indicative of an alignment.
2. He's not the type of player to pull an Artsu. He has internet issues that we know of and he was mislynched for this last game.

On both counts this is an easy way for scum to play on pre-existing fears that scum will lurk to victory, against a slot that has no opportunity to fight back. Exact thing happened recently.

/vote Cheesescumpuffs

Again, I don't expect this vote to be necessary, ultimately. It's just that, at present, no one has stuck out to me as being more unconstructive than a lurker.

It's a fucking pressure vote. Not a "get your fucking ass in here now stumpfrog or I'll personally see to it that you die" vote.
 

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/Vote rb

Yeah quit asking spectators for their opinions on scum :p

In all seriousness though I'd like to hear a bit more input on stuff. A town rb wouldn't lurk as much in a game that's this short with lots of feral wolves.

I'm playing 7 games of mafia right now and this particular game started around midnight when I had to get up early to go help my cousins renovate. Don't be dissing my acitivity levels yo.
 

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Again, I don't expect this vote to be necessary, ultimately. It's just that, at present, no one has stuck out to me as being more unconstructive than a lurker.

It's a fucking pressure vote. Not a "get your fucking ass in here now stumpfrog or I'll personally see to it that you die" vote.

Um he hasn't even responded to a role PM, which means he's basically not even on the site, so how's he gonna see your vote?
 

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As far as the vote goes, I was under the impression that we were required to have a vote by the end of the day. He is my best choice at the moment. Upon review, however, I can't find that rule anywhere.

Can someone help me confirm the rule on that?

The game rb was mod for had mandatory voting. I don't think pmj has specified if it's mandatory or not.
 

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Also my gameplay has changed significantly from the last games I played on the forum, I can link all the games I'm currently playing but I really don't go ultra-active-wall-of-text-style in any games anymore.
 

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Um he hasn't even responded to a role PM, which means he's basically not even on the site, so how's he gonna see your vote?

Fine. I'm an idiot. I put a vote on someone (for a bad reason) we shouldn't necessarily kill (for a whole host of other reasons). But it's not like that my single vote really makes a big difference, especially with three votes on me, now is it?

What do you want from me? Do you want me to take the vote off him? Would that make you happy?
 

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Fine. I'm an idiot. I put a vote on someone (for a bad reason) we shouldn't necessarily kill (for a whole host of other reasons). But it's not like that my single vote really makes a big difference, especially with three votes on me, now is it?

What do you want from me? Do you want me to take the vote off him? Would that make you happy?

It's not really whether or not you're voting Spacedog so much as I think you're using it as an excuse to pretend to be trying to sort the game, but ultimately voting someone who has little to no impact on the game and zero chance of defending themselves.

I don't care who people vote, I care what their motivations look like. But you can have a smaller version of Yellow's town sticker for not really trying hard to justify your vote, and instead just outright admitting it was dumb.

/unvote Cheeseumpuffs
 

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New thought, just had this.
We double up on the no-lynch (ie no lynch today and tomorrow). That way we make it to day 3 with the same body count as if we had mislynched tonight, but with the added bonus that we'll have had two days worth of discussion as well as (hopefully) two nights of power role activity. This option actually looks pretty tasty to me, unless someone sees a flaw with it that I haven't detailed?
Yeah, the problem is that your "tasty idea" is for town to just sit and be gobbled up.

You're assuming that we won't find a wolf. We've a 1:2 ratio right now. If I picked a name at random, there's a 33% chance of wolf. If we mislynched, tomorrow, we'd have more info and a I've got a 3:4 (43%) chance of lynching a wolf just by accident.

Why is this different from a Safebog policy lynch? For one, if he was town, we'd get almost no information out of his death. For two, he really is a random at this point.

You're not random. At the very worst, your green flip would give us cause for reflection. Especially if there's good conversation about it between now and then.
 

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Also my gameplay has changed significantly from the last games I played on the forum, I can link all the games I'm currently playing but I really don't go ultra-active-wall-of-text-style in any games anymore.

OK that's cool, can I ask why though?
 

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OK that's cool, can I ask why though?

Most people are just gonna skim or outright skip big walls, the time invested in big walls increases the chance you're operating off confirmation bias and it's easy to just keep dragging more and more reasons to scumread someone into your big wall.

Big walls also demotivate the town because it often gets perceived as fighting or toxicity, which muddy's everyone's ability to filter the game accurately.

Short answer: I'm better at the game now and I can say more with less.
 

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Okay, I'm wondering about RB now. Why are you giving out town stickers so easily? Honestly, my little hunk of pressure on Cheeseums could have just been opportunism. I could have made the exact same argument as a wolf....

...can it really be that easy? Cheeseumpuffs, RB, and Helvete? Have I just solved the game? :D
 

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Also my gameplay has changed significantly from the last games I played on the forum, I can link all the games I'm currently playing but I really don't go ultra-active-wall-of-text-style in any games anymore.

Link 'em then.
 

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Yeah, the problem is that your "tasty idea" is for town to just sit and be gobbled up.

Providing two nights worth of definitive power role activity for the same body count of one day's bad lynch.

You're assuming that we won't find a wolf. We've a 1:2 ratio right now. If I picked a name at random, there's a 33% chance of wolf. If we mislynched, tomorrow, we'd have more info and a I've got a 3:4 (43%) chance of lynching a wolf just by accident.

And yes, I am assuming that we'll get a mislynch today seeing as the person with the most votes at present is the one person I personally know to be town.

Why is this different from a Safebog policy lynch? For one, if he was town, we'd get almost no information out of his death. For two, he really is a random at this point.

Because I don't and never did expect the Slinkystraw vote to go through.

It's the vote equivalent of "welp, I guess this is what I'm going to do until I find something better to go with."

You're not random. At the very worst, your green flip would give us cause for reflection. Especially if there's good conversation about it between now and then.

Not likely, imo, since the one person who keeps pursuing me (you) gives me an impression of being town and if this forum has learned anything, it's that town-town conflicts are a waste of everyone's fucking time.
 

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Okay, I'm wondering about RB now. Why are you giving out town stickers so easily? Honestly, my little hunk of pressure on Cheeseums could have just been opportunism. I could have made the exact same argument as a wolf....

...can it really be that easy? Cheeseumpuffs, RB, and Helvete? Have I just solved the game? :D

They were my first hunches too...

But I doubt we've got em all right.

Cheesums post documenting his thoughts on all players was a bit weird for me.
People usually keep those lists to themselves. Wolves can read 'em, and adjust their play from their.

Same concerns over RB as you.

I'd say more, but that's about the extent of my meaningful thoughts.
 

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I do apologize for popping into the game so late, by the way. I had almost given up hope that this game was actually going to happen. That being said, I really do have to go to bed now. It's after midnight and I'm not as young as I used to be.

I've done what I could in this short time to drum up some actual content. If you guys aren't seeing what I'm seeing, feel free to disagree and vote No Lynch, or someone you think is scummier before deadline. If that's the case, I'll catch up with everything and self-flagellate for the vanity wagon in the morning.
 

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Cheesums post documenting his thoughts on all players was a bit weird for me.
People usually keep those lists to themselves. Wolves can read 'em, and adjust their play from their.

I'm just trying to keep all of my thoughts together. If I split things up I forget about them and in some cases forget entire people who are in the game, so I need the list present so I don't leave anyone out.

My personal commentary on it was probably a bit of an oversight to have posted. I'd originally made the list just so people could keep track of voting records (ie. it would make flip floppers apparent and could help catch some more blatant contradictions)
 

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Okay, I'm wondering about RB now. Why are you giving out town stickers so easily? Honestly, my little hunk of pressure on Cheeseums could have just been opportunism. I could have made the exact same argument as a wolf....

...can it really be that easy? Cheeseumpuffs, RB, and Helvete? Have I just solved the game? :D

Because this game has 24 hour cycles and if I'm not getting any strong scumreads then I need to find scum by process of elimination. The game is set to end with like 150 posts for an entire day cycle - that's awful and this game doesn't progress if someone doesn't brute force it into progressing.
 

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I'm going to take drugs now and then make some orange chicken and hang out with my dog until I pass out.

I'll set an alarm for myself about an hour before day end so I can be up in time to have some input.

If my count is correct, the votes look like:
cheese - 0
cheeseumpuffs - 2, QT, Yellow
helv - 0
minu - 0
qt - 0
rb - 1, helv
sinny - 0
space - 1, cheeseumpuffs
yellow - 0
 

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Because this game has 24 hour cycles and if I'm not getting any strong scumreads then I need to find scum by process of elimination. The game is set to end with like 150 posts for an entire day cycle - that's awful and this game doesn't progress if someone doesn't brute force it into progressing.

Pretty sure you had a problem with me working by process of elimination in the previous games. (Cept for when we were both scum)
 
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