Jung is really hard to figure out, now we are leaning towards INFJ again.
No way. Seen his interviews. Clear slow-talking INTP.
You're thinking too ST. Mysticism is just another puzzle to understand.
and while he came up with this theory, and INFJ's are very system oriented by the way,
Ni synthesises multiple Se observations into one consistent whole.
he didn't rigorously develop it as an INTP probably would.
Ti judges the disparate Ne ideas, until they all fit together. So they look disparate, until you think about how they would all fit together, and then suddenly it becomes clear that they all are parts of an abstract whole, that fit together perfectly. This then results in INTPs seeming to talk a lot of nonsense to others, until others have taken the time to think about what the INTP has said, and then suddenly it becomes very clear how well the INTP's ideas fit together. Then the other person gains a huge respect for the INTP's intelligence.
Incidentally, have you read the online chapter X of
Psychological Types?
Seems a lot flowery and off the point, at a cursory read. But the more I've read of it, the more it reads like a mathematical theorem, only with words. To be honest, it's more systematically laid out, than most mathematical theorems that I was taught in my maths degree.
Just one example, is that he starts saying that humans have TWO types: a
general attitude type, that is either introverted or extroverted, and a
function-type, that is either Thinking, Feeling, Sensation or Intuition. When he describes the functions, he first provides a description of the general attitude, then the function, and then the combination as they occur in practical application in the person. He only describes Introversion and Extroversion once. But he describes each function twice. In each case, he describes first the introverted function, and then the extroverted function, but labels both with the same name. This could refer to the subconscious, as he describes this as having a compensatory attitude, extroversion for the introvert, and vice versa. However, in a biography of talks he gave, he describes the inferior function of the subconscious as being the opposing function of the dominant function, Fe for Ti-doms. So clearly, Te does not automatically refer to the subconscious. However, he calls Introversion/Extroversion a "
general attitude type", and not an "attitude type". He is implying that the general attitude of an introvert is introversion, but in some cases, the introvert will take the attitude of an extrovert. So a Ti-dom is
generally using Ti as his dominant function. But in specific cases and situations, the Ti-dom behaves with an extroverted attitude, and then he uses Te.
This actually matches the cognitive function tests of INTPs and INTJs, as their cognitive function tests reveal that both types usually have a lot of Ti and Te, and a lot of Ne and Ni, but far less of Fe & Fi, and of Se & Si. This actually confuses INTPs and INTJs a lot, because they then think that they must be an INTx, because they have both strong Te and Ti, and strong Ne and Ni.
This then explains an odd behaviour from his youth. When he was a child, he believed he was both a typical schoolboy, and an extroverted businessman about town, which if you look at the online descriptions, is an ENTJ, a Te-dom, and for a while, he couldn't tell which one he was. He resolved this by realising that a Ti-dom with supporting intuition, who is an INTP, would be normally using Ti to learn, but in some specific situations, would become a Te-dom with intuition, an ENTJ, and rely on Te evidence. He even references this when describing Ti, by saying that Ti is backed not just by Ti reason, but also by Te evidence.
It's all extremely detailed, with great nuances. But it doesn't look like it at first glance. You really have to sit and think about how it all works, to realise just how rigorous Jung was being.
Also he was particularly charismatic and drew people to him.
From
An INTP Profile:
INTPs dislike making the first move and tend to mirror the emotional content of the other person. A jolly person will quickly bring the INTP out of his shell, as much as that is possible, while a serious person will find a serious INTP looking back at him.
Who wouldn't be drawn to someone who likes the stuff you like, and hates the stuff you hate?
An INTP would probably be more inclined to work in isolation and fully develop a logical theory, and not mush around all the mystical parts of it.
Many INTJs have said that's how they do things. INTPs like to Ne talk out their ideas, because their intution is extroverted. It needs an audience to work properly, or at the very least, to talk or write to oneself.
INFJ's do a lot of thinking, especially in childhood (Ti is their tertiary) which could explain it.
INFJs are metamorphs. They will make the effort to excel in maths, if they like their maths teacher. They'll do a lot of thinking, if it will impress their INTP boyfriend, and later husband. If they don't have anyone they want to impress with Ti, they won't have a reason to use it.
And at least once with you before.
