MBTI Comic

[pjoa09]

100th post! on this thread! argh

Yes, more please.

18 is a killer!

 

[Anna Moss]

Two today.
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INTJ vs. INTP

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Two today.
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INTJ vs. INTP

Well done!

 

[The Gopher]

OH lol....

 

[snafupants]

OH lol....

Good post.

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Yeah, I realize the jab is itself ironic and superfluous. Dammit.

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The jab was worth it!

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I'm still having doubts about the jab being worth it.

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Never again Gopher!

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The jab, in hindsight, wasn't worth it.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

INTJ vs. INTP

lol

 

[Anna Moss]

Thanks!
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[Dr. Freeman]

I laughed harder than I should have. Hilarious.

 

[Anna Moss]

That was probably the most gory thing I've ever drawn.

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[Cognisant]

Shouldn't it be "That's not a butterfly, it's a moth."

I mean the NFs have been calling it the butterfly pit, I think the joke would have worked better if it turned out they'd been wrong the entire time rather than just one making a simple mistake, it also kind of works with the NF/NT duality, to an NF if it's pretty like a butterfly then it's a butterfly, to an NT the beauty of it is what it is, not what it looks like.

 

[Anna Moss]

Shouldn't it be "That's not a butterfly, it's a moth."

I mean the NFs have been calling it the butterfly pit, I think the joke would have worked better if it turned out they'd been wrong the entire time rather than just one making a simple mistake, it also kind of works with the NF/NT duality, to an NF if it's pretty like a butterfly then it's a butterfly, to an NT the beauty of it is what it is, not what it looks like.

Yeah, I know what you're talking about. The word "moth" has far more sinister connotations than the word "butterfly." If someone gets killed by butterflies, it's ridiculous and therefore amusing. If someone gets killed by moths, that's a little less funny--hence it seemed best to call them butterflies in earlier comics. But on the other hand, the name "NF Death Butterfly" sounds odd whereas the name "NF Death Moth" sounds natural. And if I had made them real moths, that would have been problematic because moths aren't easily recognizable at a teeny tiny scale. So I was stuck with butterflies. It was a sort of Kobayashi Maru scenario.

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[Cognisant]

Hehe, cool, I'm betting this happens next:

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One of them, probably the NT, will use the pipe to speak to the raptors, like that scene from Jurassic Park 3, negotiating a truce.

 

[redbaron]

22 is too awesome

 

[Anna Moss]

Thx!

@Cognisant--Well, you'll have to wait and see. Incidentally, I think I may have figured a way out of the moth/butterfly pitfall. I'll try and fix that later.

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[Dr. Freeman]

I liked this one.

 

[Anna Moss]

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[Ink]

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Error generating image.

Fix it please or I'll get mbti comic abstinence!

Edit: Thank you for the daily fix...

 

[Anna Moss]

Yeah, don't know what happened there...

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[The Gopher]

I am glad this thread is here... it's a tone or several down from the two fireworks threads at the moment.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

I am glad this thread is here... it's a tone or several down from the two fireworks threads at the moment.

I agree. I've taken a few days off in hopes that things will be calmer when I returned. I think I need another vacation.

 

[Anna Moss]

So this is the Bob Ross of threads, huh?

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[Dr. Freeman]

The photo is broken.

I always enjoy this.

 

[Anna Moss]

Drat...did you get any kind of error message? Or did it just display a red "X"?

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Here.

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[Anna Moss]

Well isn't that bizarre... It's apparently some kind of access/privilege thing, since the pic disappears on me too if I log out. I'll start troubleshooting it.

 

[Anna Moss]

Try it again. My current theory is that Drupal secretly views the comic as "unpublished" if I future date it, and therefore nobody but myself can see it until the "true" publication date is reached.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

It's working now. Well done.

 

[Anna Moss]

Haha, the triumph of woman over machine.

 

[redbaron]

Damnit, every time @Anna Moss posts in this thread I get excited and check it immediately. Then it turns out she hasn't posted a new comic at all

 

[Anna Moss]

It's there; it's just back in #121.

 

[Architect]

@Anna Moss

The comics need more bite. The characters don't contrast with each other enough, you need to satirize them. For example, have the NT break his glasses, but repair them with tape that the practical SJ carries around so he's then looking like the classical nerd. Have the NF fall in love with him but he's too into his (whatever) to notice, maybe he's a 40 year old virgin. Catch the SP considering having 'relations' with animals, because he's getting so horny. Stuff like that.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

All of those strike me as distinctly terrible and unimaginative ideas.
On the level of fart jokes, and certainly a far cry from 'biting.' Props on the condescension though, very charming.

I suspect with this comic Anna has begun to favor developing a story more than singular jokes.

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Thank you for the edit, Architect.
Hope your morning goes better than your night.

 

[Architect]

All of those strike me as distinctly terrible and unimaginative ideas.

Well I'm not the one trying to make a comic. It's an attempt at constructive criticism.

Props on the condescension though, very charming.

Wasn't intended, I slept horribly last night and that was the first thing I wrote. Apologies.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Well I'm not the one trying to make a comic. It's an attempt at constructive criticism.

Wasn't intended, I slept horribly last night and that was the first thing I wrote. Apologies.

Yeah, you probably had good intentions but it was the fine line between constructive criticism and trying to be a personal manager.

 

[Architect]

Yeah, you probably had good intentions but it was the fine line between constructive criticism and trying to be a personal manager.

I disagree, I think the feedback is valid. Anna is posting here to find an audience and seems open to commentary, my feedback is that I think the comics would be stronger with more bite. Agree or disagree as you like as to whether they do, it's all a matter of taste, but I don't see anything wrong with offering the feedback. I edited the post shortly after to remove a bit that Adaire (presumably) thought was condescending.

Yeah, everybody's a critic ...

 

[Hadoblado]

I like it just the way it is

 

[redbaron]

I think I like it BECAUSE it's different and quirky. I don't see a need to change, it hasn't disappointed yet

 

[Anna Moss]

Don't worry, I criticize myself far more harshly. I actually laughed at the fact that someone described me using the word "feminine." Only on an all-INTP forum! As to the suggestion itself:

The comics need more bite. The characters don't contrast with each other enough, you need to satirize them.

I suspect that I know what you're talking about. My characters are indeed nicer, more normal and more cooperative than those portrayed on many popular humorous TV shows. There are several issues that feed into this:

• In a long standing episodic TV show where the story does not build upon itself, it is possible to start with a clean slate every time. Yesterday's antics and arguments are forgiven, and everybody is friends again by the time the next episode starts. Not so here; if the characters ended up hating each other in today's strip, they are obligated to hate each other in tomorrow's strip because it is a continuous story.
• People don't really want to see themselves (their types) villainized/humiliated/put down, unless it's in a fun, cool, all-too-appropriate way from their perspective. As a catlover, I hate it when cats are villainized in kid's cartoons. Yet Catbert is one of the main Dilbert villains and I love him. It's because he's evil in a fun, cool, all-too-appropriate-for-a-cat sort of way. This is probably what will be required to produce some loveable nasty characters who could provide more bite.
• Not all the characters can be zany all the time; there has to be someone normal and well adjusted who gets to be shocked at the antics of the zany characters.
• People with lots of flaws and quirks (arrogance, laziness, recklessness, selfishness, stupidity, paranoia, etc.) are innately more funny than virtuous people for some reason. This makes it harder to create humorous situations for the Guardian and Idealist, who are nicer and more virtuous than the Rational and Artisan. Developing them as characters has presented difficulties.

Have I analyzed the humor away yet?

I suspect with this comic Anna has begun to favor developing a story more than singular jokes.

I've been wanting to do some oneshots along with the ongoing story, but it's been too busy lately. Still, I'm hopeful that I'll add some next week.

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[Cognisant]

I find it hard to believe any NT would give credence to the notion of a soul, I mean if you can't define it and you can't empirically prove it's existence you don't even know what you're talking/thinking about.

Whereas if you define the soul as the qualia of being, and you're not a halfwit that jumps to inane conclusions, it's a matter of epistemology and from there deductive reasoning leads to some manner of mechanistic theory of information processing, unless of course you have empirical proof of nonsense like a priori knowledge or metaphysical dualism, which there isn't, hence why we went down the path of epistemology rather than theism.

Of course if you want to make wild assumptions you can take the theism route, but while we're making wild assumptions we can make wild assumptions about anything, in which case reality is whatever you choose it to be and so you're a solipsist, or insane, heck solipsism is essentially an admission of insanity.

 

[Words]

^Additional "empiricism" to support the accuracy of your comics' portrayal of NTs.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I find it hard to believe any NT would give credence to the notion of a soul, I mean if you can't define it and you can't empirically prove it's existence you don't even know what you're talking/thinking about.

NT is not, by definition, bound to science and scientific thinking.

 

[Cognisant]

Nor is the misfortune of mental illness discriminatory.

NT is the "rational" type is it not?
What is rational about the notion of a soul?

There are many types on this forum, not just INTPs.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Nor is the misfortune of mental illness discriminatory.

NT is the "rational" type is it not?
What is rational about the notion of a soul?

There are many types on this forum, not just INTPs.

And you assume the "rational" label is the most accurate?

What is your definition of "soul"?

 

[Cognisant]

And you assume the "rational" label is the most accurate?

Obviously, the legitimacy of doing so was the question I asked you.

That was incredibly pointless.

What is your definition of "soul"?

The qualia of being taken as justification for some innate metaphysical existence of self, specifically of a supernatural nature, which is the basis of dualism.

 

[snafupants]

The qualia of being taken as justification for some innate metaphysical existence of self, specifically of a supernatural nature, which is the basis of dualism.

I would call that mind but to each his own.

The definitions are probably close, and intangibly moot, enough anyway.

Supernatural nature? Oh boy, this ride is gonna get bumpy.

Is supernatural nature an eighties band?!

 

[Hadoblado]

Start a new thread (or find an old one), as interesting as the discussion may be, people come to this thread for comics.

 

[Anna Moss]

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[Proletar]

I love how everyone in the thread started to discuss the soul just like the velociraptors.

 

[The Gopher]

Hahah yeah, which in turn kinda proved Cog wrong

 

[Cognisant]

Don't bait me.