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Machivelli Test

High or low mach?

  • high

    Votes: 72 75.8%
  • low

    Votes: 23 24.2%

  • Total voters
    95

psychoinsanity

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Machivellianism was named after the italian politician named Machivelli who coined the phrase "the ends justify the means". Take the Machivelli Test. Are you a high or low mach? I assume since most of us are INTJs most of us will be high mach, but can't hurt to do a survey right?
 

Anthile

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Wait, what?
 

RaBind

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kantor1003

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"Your score was 66 of 100.

This puts you in the category of the high Machs, people who do not belive in the goodness of the world and that because that it must be manipulated, people who Machiavelli would approve of."

I didn't like the test and found most of the questions pretty unanswerable due to vagueness and found myself, as a result, clicking the neutral option a lot.

Things like:
"The best way to handle people is to tell them what they want to hear."
and
"Most people are basically good and kind."
The former is highly situational and regarding the latter, what if you believe that most people, if not all, if put in certain situations will act in ways considered morally wrong, or evil, or that instincts, in cases where it completely bypasses reason, doesn't take good or evil into consideration, does that mean you believe that a person is "basically good and kind", or the opposite?

Anyway, I appreciate machiavellian sentiments on an intellectual level, but I don't think it shows itself, or manifests in my daily doings. With that said, I've never been in a situation, or a position in which to make such judgements. I'm not a politician, a leader, or in a position of any authority.
 

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*INTPs
 

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*Adaire tackles Cavallier, twists her arms behind her back and handcuffs them and starts braiding her hair*

How have you been these days Red?
 

Cavallier

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:pueh: Braids.
 

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Only 56/100, "low mach".

Not even going the speed of sound.

I ended up neutral on most of the questions also. There were some I could take stronger stands on, but I found that too many of them seemed subjective and context-dependent, vague, or maybe I am lacking in data to answer.
 

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68/100
guess that makes me a high mach.

no offence to anyone, but i'm going to generalize here.;) INTPs are seen as cynical, so in accordance to the kind of qs they ask, most of us would be high machs.:beatyou:
that's assuming we're intps.
 
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72/100 (high Mach). It's probably just because I believe in infinite levels of human stupidity, though. I'm a firm believer in the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. Not really on that last part. :D
 

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Your score was 53 of 100.

This puts you in the category of the low Machs, people who will hold out for the goodness of the world and avoid manipulation. Not the people Machiavelli would approve of.

I'm too soft to be a Machiavellian :p

Machiavellian tactics should be counterbalanced by a moral code. Tactics alone will get you killed ASAP by better backstabbers, morality alone will get you nowhere. As the Bible says "Be innocent as doves yet wise as serpents"
 
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55/100: low

"I assume since most of us are INTJs"

Huh? *Smells a user sampling multiple forums.*

This survey could have been better structured to record multiple measures of Machivellian traits. Machiavellian ideals=ENTJ, imo
 

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69...
 

MizKodomo

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83...
*whistles*
 

A22

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66/100

Although I think the highest the score, the more realistic one us.
 

ProxyAmenRa

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Your score was 58 of 100.

This puts you in the category of the low Machs, people who will hold out for the goodness of the world and avoid manipulation. Not the people Machiavelli would approve of.

This low for an INTJ?
 

walfin

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Your score was 57 of 100.

This puts you in the category of the low Machs, people who will hold out for the goodness of the world and avoid manipulation. Not the people Machiavelli would approve of.
 

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82/100
its funny because i plan to read the Prince in the near future, good to see its ideals wont be to hard for me to grasp
 

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its funny because i plan to read the Prince in the near future, good to see its ideals wont be to hard for me to grasp
 

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Your score was 59 of 100.

This puts you in the category of the low Machs, people who will hold out for the goodness of the world and avoid manipulation. Not the people Machiavelli would approve of.
 
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47, so low. I'd assume that comes from my weak T, and my high P. I've never scored an F, but my T is usually under 60%, often times under 55%
 

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78/100 - high
 

Code_Name_Ozz

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67/100. The vast majority must be treated like the sheep that they really are.
 

gruesomebrat

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78.

I find it odd, however, that according to their chart, most people who take the test are scoring in the mid 40's and up... I find it hard to believe that the majority of the population believes in Machiavellian ideals. Perhaps the vagueness of the questions is influencing the data too severely? Makes me wonder if the creator of this test is looking to prove a certain hypothesis, and let a bias towards said hypothesis color the test...


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Hadoblado

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66/100

My ideals are higher, but I have many friends who I believe would score incredibly high on this, and quite frankly it creates so many problems for them when their bullshit is spotted that I now genuinely believe that while the ends justify the means, lying often will result in pretty poor ends. The convenience of having people accept your word at face value is incredibly valuable to me and I would jump through many a hoop to preserve this.
 

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60/100 = low Machs

Hey, I just don't have the time for manipulating people. I have a sister whose nature is manipulation for control (gets it from dad). Maybe I just don't want the bother.

For these reasons (too preoccupied to get involved in mind games), I'd predict high or low for INTPs, though the data (as rudimentary as it is) suggests otherwise.

Though my extreme votes were when to disagreeing people are brave. And I highly disagreed people would miss their stuff more than their parents. I'd have voted strongly agree if asked if I think most people were stupid.

I'd think a high Mach would like stupid people in order to take advantage. I'd rather everyone be smart to make life easier.
 

C.J_Finn

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I scored 53/100, but I think that's because of the questions regarding honesty. I also answered neutral on quite a few of the questions because I can't give a definite answer unless I'm put into a certain situation.
 

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62/100

I greatly prefer honesty, but I'm not foolish enough to think that it doesn't carry its share of problems.
 

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49 low machs. I figure most people suck and are out to get me, but I am not out to get anyone. And if I was I would tell you how and why.
 

Czech Yes or No

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Your score was 58 of 100.

This puts you in the category of the low Machs, people who will hold out for the goodness of the world and avoid manipulation. Not the people Machiavelli would approve of.

This low for an INTJ?

Yes, you aren't enough of a douche.


100/100.
 

Shadowrunner

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Your score was 83 of 100.

This puts you in the category of the high Machs, people who do not belive in the goodness of the world and that because that it must be manipulated, people who Machiavelli would approve of.
 

rachilde

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90/100.

Hm. Let's hope the Board of Bar Examiners don't find out about this sort of thing.
 

Niclmaki

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Your score was 43 of 100.

This puts you in the category of the low Machs, people who will hold out for the goodness of the world and avoid manipulation. Not the people Machiavelli would approve of.

Interesting
 

LarsMac

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42 out of 100.
Meh, I coulda been High if I'd wanted to.
Wish all tests were that easy.
 

Wolf18

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71/100
High Mach

SW
 

Nezaros

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Low Mach, 40/100. Not really surprising.

There's another similar test linked from that page, that judges Narcissism and Psychopathy as well.
 

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Repost? I'm sure I've made this test already. Nonsensical test. :rolleyes:
 
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