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I don't think I could ever try to have any sort of romantic relationship with another INTP... INTP women are cool, but I think any relationship would be very, very bad.
 

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I don't doubt that...



But from my expereince INTPs feel emotions in one of two ways, they either almost completly shut them down and are not emotional at all, or they rarely have emotions, but when they do they are very immature, childlike, and explosive by nature.

I am part of the second group, I have very strong emotions that never get out, because they are to underdeveloped and naive for me to let them out on a normal basis.

Relationships are about emotion.

If I were to be with an INTP girl that never showed any emotion, it would make me feel stiffled like I could also never feel anything about the relationship.

If I were to be with an INTP girl that had very immature and explosive emotions burried deep down, neither of us would be strong enough Feelers to bring that out in a healthy way, and we would probably go from feeling emotionally caged into a corner, to exloding with crazy immature things that don't account much to the feelings of others. So in that case, things could either go really, really bad or really, really good.

We could probably have some really awesome crazy animal sex if that were to happen, but in the long run it wouldn't be healthy for either of us to grow.



I think it would take a certain amount of maturity, which I lack, for an INTP guy to be able to handle and INTP girl on an emotional level. It is that Fe that is the issue. A girl still wants to feel like a girl, but you don't want to push the buttons of that super strong and stubborn Ti, because it will push back, and it will push back hard. I would think that you would have to bring out femenine feelings inside of her, but never, ever, ever do anything to make her feel like she is less powerfull or independent because of it.

For someone who has a strong Fe, I don't see that being a problem, but I don't know very many INTPs that understand the emotions of others and can walk this delicate Feeling tightrope.

Like I said, it would have to be a more mature INTP than I. My own Fe is a big babby...



I would end up getting my ass beat. I think I will stick to going after the more softer Feeler type girls untill I mature a bit and get a better understanding. Though I can't say that the idea of getting beat up by an angry INTP chick doesn't turn me on, because it does...
 

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But from my expereince INTPs feel emotions in one of two ways, they either almost completly shut them down and are not emotional at all, or they rarely have emotions, but when they do they are very immature, childlike, and explosive by nature.

For someone who has a strong Fe, I don't see that being a problem, but I don't know very many INTPs that understand the emotions of others and can walk this delicate Feeling tightrope.

This topic may have more to do with intelligence at a deeper level, like meta-cognition.

I think I will stick to going after the more softer Feeler type girls untill I mature a bit and get a better understanding.

Understanding before deciding is wise, indeed.
 

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I don't doubt that...

But from my expereince INTPs feel emotions in one of two ways, they either almost completly shut them down and are not emotional at all, or they rarely have emotions, but when they do they are very immature, childlike, and explosive by nature.

You sound like you have a lot of experience. It is highly accurate too and corresponds almost exactly to my own, single, experience. I wish I had known you then. I am a powerful Fi with a highly undeveloped Ti regarding human relationships. My Ne is excellent for perceiving ways of helping people, but it was baffled in the extreme by the incredible phenomenon of a female Ti-lead.

I am part of the second group, I have very strong emotions that never get out, because they are to underdeveloped and naive for me to let them out on a normal basis.

Relationships are about emotion.

If I were to be with an INTP girl that never showed any emotion, it would make me feel stiffled like I could also never feel anything about the relationship.

In my experience, she did express emotions, but the Ti, of course, was the dominant function.

My emotions are gigantic, catastrophic, epic, and very hard to manage. They are also related to a core set of values that I have not really defined yet, but they are there. Her Fe was delightful and scary at the same time because it was governed by Ti which can come to conclusions that seem entirely unrelated to the emotional world I inhabit daily. That was terrifying to me because I had no idea what was going on underneath.

I think it would take a certain amount of maturity, which I lack, for an INTP guy to be able to handle and INTP girl on an emotional level. It is that Fe that is the issue. A girl still wants to feel like a girl, but you don't want to push the buttons of that super strong and stubborn Ti, because it will push back, and it will push back hard. I would think that you would have to bring out femenine feelings inside of her, but never, ever, ever do anything to make her feel like she is less powerfull or independent because of it.

My maturity wasn't high enough either. I have had limited social interaction in my life, and my Fi is therefore also still childlike. In fact, I can still feel the ten-year old boy inside fighting against this hateful adulthood. I failed miserably with her. I had no idea what was happening and am only really learning now.

For someone who has a strong Fe, I don't see that being a problem, but I don't know very many INTPs that understand the emotions of others and can walk this delicate Feeling tightrope.

And, of course, my Fe is almost non-existent; which probably left her often wondering where I was.

Like I said, it would have to be a more mature INTP than I. My own Fe is a big babby...

So's my Fi. There have been times when I felt like all the pain of the universe has descended upon me. It happens frequently. I usually keep my screams inside, but sometimes when I am alone I let them out vocally.

Her Fe was actually able to reach into those depths and soothe them, and with further enhancement... I don't know. But it is better that she is not exposed to that catastrophe again!

Wherever she is, I hope she knows I am sorry for all of that and wish and pray her all the best.

The only being, subsequently, I've found who can see and reach into those depths is the Theotokos. And she is trans-dimensional.

Thanks for this post, Tony3d. It also helps me a lot.
 

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You sound like you have a lot of experience. It is highly accurate too and corresponds almost exactly to my own, single, experience. I wish I had known you then. I am a powerful Fi with a highly undeveloped Ti regarding human relationships. My Ne is excellent for perceiving ways of helping people, but it was baffled in the extreme by the incredible phenomenon of a female Ti-lead.



In my experience, she did express emotions, but the Ti, of course, was the dominant function.

My emotions are gigantic, catastrophic, epic, and very hard to manage. They are also related to a core set of values that I have not really defined yet, but they are there. Her Fe was delightful and scary at the same time because it was governed by Ti which can come to conclusions that seem entirely unrelated to the emotional world I inhabit daily. That was terrifying to me because I had no idea what was going on underneath.



My maturity wasn't high enough either. I have had limited social interaction in my life, and my Fi is therefore also still childlike. In fact, I can still feel the ten-year old boy inside fighting against this hateful adulthood. I failed miserably with her. I had no idea what was happening and am only really learning now.



And, of course, my Fe is almost non-existent; which probably left her often wondering where I was.



So's my Fi. There have been times when I felt like all the pain of the universe has descended upon me. It happens frequently. I usually keep my screams inside, but sometimes when I am alone I let them out vocally.

Her Fe was actually able to reach into those depths and soothe them, and with further enhancement... I don't know. But it is better that she is not exposed to that catastrophe again!

Wherever she is, I hope she knows I am sorry for all of that and wish and pray her all the best.

The only being, subsequently, I've found who can see and reach into those depths is the Theotokos. And she is trans-dimensional.

Thanks for this post, Tony3d. It also helps me a lot.

Have you considered writing? It would allow you to vent your emotions off before they build up inside, and the considerable scale of your feelings could allow you to write books big enough to stop doors.

-Duxwing
 

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I don't doubt that...

But from my expereince INTPs feel emotions in one of two ways, they either almost completly shut them down and are not emotional at all, or they rarely have emotions, but when they do they are very immature, childlike, and explosive by nature.
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Excellent post. I also agree that as much as I like INTPs, having a relationship with one would be a disaster for me. I've heard of some who did this and said it worked, but of course one doesn't know if they really are INTP's and how well it worked or didn't work.

At any rate the most common relationship dynamic I've seen is N-N, or S-S, and then T-F or F-T. The rest of the letters don't matter so much, but it seems like more often than not I-I and E-E. So we see

XSTX-XSFX (most common, with the T in either the male or female, same for the F). Frequently you'll see SP-SP and SJ-SJ however, which seems to somewhat predominate.

NFs most often with NT's

I've seen some dual-feeler marriages up close - what a disaster! Nobody to do the level headed thinking. I've got a sibling with that, talk about financial disasters!

Anyhow these observations make a lot of sense if you think about it. S-S & N-N are speaking the same language. The S-S will cement their place in society together happily. The N-N duality will likewise persue their goals of truth and beauty together.

Once that is done, then the F-T or T-F need to match. The Thinker needs the warmth of the Feeler in their life, and likewise the Feeler needs the rationality of the Thinker.

Dual feeler couples are pure mush, as I've said. Dual thinkers I've seen have relationships that are too harsh, in my experience. As mentioned Introverts tend to do well with Introverts, as they can stay home together. Likewise for E-E. So given these ideas, you might say these are good combinations (of course there are many other factors)

(Align on E-I and S-N, opposite on T-F and P-J)

INTP-INFJ (ideal) -ENFJ (next ideal)
INFP-INTJ (ideal) -ENTJ (next ideal)
ENTP-ENFJ (ideal) -INFJ (next ideal)
ENFP-ENTJ (ideal) -INTJ (next ideal)

ISTP-ISFJ (ideal) -ESFJ (next ideal)
ISFP-ISTJ (ideal) -ESTJ (next ideal)
ESTP-ESFJ (ideal) -ISFJ (next ideal)
ESFP-ESTJ (ideal) -ISTJ (next ideal)
 

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I'd date an INTP chick because she'd like to try the things I like to do... in the butt.

Miniature pinball?



I have that blow up nature too, it's frightening when I find myself in it.

I can't play it down.

It does make things difficult in the relationship area because I can't have a small attraction it has to be huge.

So I often find myself in the position of 'meh' and 'holyfuckholyfuck' whenever I see a girl. Sometimes I don't even realize I was attracted to them until a day or two later when that is the only thought that hasn't expired yet. By then it's too late.
 
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But from my expereince INTPs feel emotions in one of two ways, they either almost completly shut them down and are not emotional at all, or they rarely have emotions, but when they do they are very immature, childlike, and explosive by nature.

I am part of the second group, I have very strong emotions that never get out, because they are to underdeveloped and naive for me to let them out on a normal basis.

Relationships are about emotion.

If I were to be with an INTP girl that never showed any emotion, it would make me feel stiffled like I could also never feel anything about the relationship.

If I were to be with an INTP girl that had very immature and explosive emotions burried deep down, neither of us would be strong enough Feelers to bring that out in a healthy way, and we would probably go from feeling emotionally caged into a corner, to exloding with crazy immature things that don't account much to the feelings of others.

Though I'm not sure about my type, this is totally me. I couldn't handle my feelings, I didn't know what was going on inside me, or my partner. I was quiet paranoid about his feelings, and became really hostile (so did he), and we began to fight for dominance. We couldn't talk about it, and everything went wrong. In the end it was me who tried to talk about things, but it was hard and awkward. Also, I always tried to get little "we are okay emotionally" signs, because I was so unsure about things.

So, when I got feelings for someone, my mind totally broke down, and I couldn't think normally. I don't feel safe, I feel something cracked, and when I don't get what I expect to, I feel really uncomfortable and neurotic.

Now I try to be mature emotionally, and cool myself down, give my partner more freedom. I try to talk about all the things, and avoid being so paranoid and obsessive.

Of course it's really funny how my Ti appears and disappears when I'm in love. I use to analyze my partner, and understand everything about him, but it was usually too much and maniac. I can rationalize everything, and that's really bad.
 

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Excellent post. I also agree that as much as I like INTPs, having a relationship with one would be a disaster for me. I've heard of some who did this and said it worked, but of course one doesn't know if they really are INTP's and how well it worked or didn't work.

At any rate the most common relationship dynamic I've seen is N-N, or S-S, and then T-F or F-T. The rest of the letters don't matter so much, but it seems like more often than not I-I and E-E. So we see

XSTX-XSFX (most common, with the T in either the male or female, same for the F). Frequently you'll see SP-SP and SJ-SJ however, which seems to somewhat predominate.

NFs most often with NT's

I've seen some dual-feeler marriages up close - what a disaster! Nobody to do the level headed thinking. I've got a sibling with that, talk about financial disasters!

Anyhow these observations make a lot of sense if you think about it. S-S & N-N are speaking the same language. The S-S will cement their place in society together happily. The N-N duality will likewise persue their goals of truth and beauty together.

Once that is done, then the F-T or T-F need to match. The Thinker needs the warmth of the Feeler in their life, and likewise the Feeler needs the rationality of the Thinker.

Dual feeler couples are pure mush, as I've said. Dual thinkers I've seen have relationships that are too harsh, in my experience. As mentioned Introverts tend to do well with Introverts, as they can stay home together. Likewise for E-E. So given these ideas, you might say these are good combinations (of course there are many other factors)

(Align on E-I and S-N, opposite on T-F and P-J)

INTP-INFJ (ideal) -ENFJ (next ideal)
INFP-INTJ (ideal) -ENTJ (next ideal)
ENTP-ENFJ (ideal) -INFJ (next ideal)
ENFP-ENTJ (ideal) -INTJ (next ideal)

ISTP-ISFJ (ideal) -ESFJ (next ideal)
ISFP-ISTJ (ideal) -ESTJ (next ideal)
ESTP-ESFJ (ideal) -ISFJ (next ideal)
ESFP-ESTJ (ideal) -ISTJ (next ideal)

An insightful post.
 

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Though I'm not sure about my type, this is totally me. I couldn't handle my feelings, I didn't know what was going on inside me, or my partner. I was quiet paranoid about his feelings, and became really hostile (so did he), and we began to fight for dominance. We couldn't talk about it, and everything went wrong. In the end it was me who tried to talk about things, but it was hard and awkward. Also, I always tried to get little "we are okay emotionally" signs, because I was so unsure about things.

So, when I got feelings for someone, my mind totally broke down, and I couldn't think normally. I don't feel safe, I feel something cracked, and when I don't get what I expect to, I feel really uncomfortable and neurotic.

Now I try to be mature emotionally, and cool myself down, give my partner more freedom. I try to talk about all the things, and avoid being so paranoid and obsessive.

Of course it's really funny how my Ti appears and disappears when I'm in love. I use to analyze my partner, and understand everything about him, but it was usually too much and maniac. I can rationalize everything, and that's really bad.

It sounds like you should stay away from INTP guys and go find a Feeling type guy.

You need someone who is strong and secure and confident in his own feelings, that way you can feel safe to feel and then grow as a person in result.

When you know that he will emotionally be there to catch you when you fall, you will then allow yourself to feel. When you allow yourself to feel, you will then begin to understand more. When you understand more, you will have less of a disharmony between your Ti and Fe and become more complete in everything in your life.


I am not saying go marry a Feeler type as the love of your life, just go date some Feelers for a while and have fun and learn.

That is exactly what I am doing.
 

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I haven't bothered watching the entire video. I get annoyed watching peoples speaking videos... It's so much slower than just reading, and requires me to turn off music. It's so forced into their pace. Someone transcribe what she says or tell me what's so special <:

I've currently fallen for what I'm fairly certain is an INTP female... I guess i'll make some drama-existential crisis thread if it goes horribly wrong, but it seems to be going quite well so far.
 

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:eek: Mommy! Scawee!

... :D

Her countenance really is creepy, though.

-Duxwing

muhaha-ha

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I haven't bothered watching the entire video. I get annoyed watching peoples speaking videos... It's so much slower than just reading, and requires me to turn off music.

yeah... I usually feel that way too...
 

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I think the only time a problem arises is when an INTP females falls for a a guy (Or gal) that is too emotional.

There are several reasons why I've stopped dealing with relationships, but the most devastatingly depressing was my last prospects willingness to take back their affection because I refused to give them EVERYTHING they needed.

Lets say the last guy needed tons of affection, and affirmations every day; I was only giving them what they needed for maybe 3 or 4 days out of the week.

Lets also assume that I need little affection, and almost no affirmation; the only things I really "need" are peace, quietness, and a little sex. (GOOD sex)

The last guy realized that I was only giving him 70 percent of what he needed, so he decided to hold back completely on his affection.

In his mind, since I needed so much LESS than he did , it was "fair" to completely withdraw and show disrespect because I lacked the genuine interest to baby him.

I only need the bare minimum; support, a good back-rub every now-and-then, a little intellectual discourse, and sex.

So you can see how this would make any relationship with an OEM (Overly emotional male) a total disaster.

Female INTPs are NOT the problem; it's the babies of the world that cannot handle their own emotions effectively that are the issue.

Sadly, it is VERY easy for opposites to attract. Thankfully opposites dont usually stay together for too long; and any level-headed INTP will recognize the patterns early, and at least try to avoid these types.
 

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So you can see how this would make any relationship with an OEM (Overly emotional male) a total disaster.

I agree on this topic of OEMs.

It can be hard dealing with someone in general who expects more than one naturally gives (and might even feel like it's not cool to give that much -- in this instance, where it feels like you are coddling someone or mom'ing them more than having a mutual relationship).

There are guys who I thought were great people, but would not be involved with because they would read our difference in this kind of emotional exchange as me just being cold or unsupportive. I'm actually very supportive as a person, it's just that I don't have the energy to pour a lot of it into overt constant display / reinforcement of affection. I'm not really high maintenance, aside from liking to spend quality time interacting with people I really like if they're available.
 

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I agree on this topic of OEMs.

It can be hard dealing with someone in general who expects more than one naturally gives (and might even feel like it's not cool to give that much -- in this instance, where it feels like you are coddling someone or mom'ing them more than having a mutual relationship).

There are guys who I thought were great people, but would not be involved with because they would read our difference in this kind of emotional exchange as me just being cold or unsupportive. I'm actually very supportive as a person, it's just that I don't have the energy to pour a lot of it into overt constant display / reinforcement of affection. I'm not really high maintenance, aside from liking to spend quality time interacting with people I really like if they're available.


I think problems arise when they assume Low maintenance = No maintenance.

Or low maintenance = Low quality, and so they are not compelled (By their own emotions) to care for us properly.

I just dont view the world that way.

Just because my television doesnt need to be maintained as my car doesnt mean Im going to neglect it, or try to wreck it.

My emotional attachment to any given person does not affect how good a lover, friend, daughter, or cousin I am; If I say Im going to do something, or be somewhere, I'll do it; I'll show up.

And if I cant, my absence will not be out of spite.
 

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The last guy realized that I was only giving him 70 percent of what he needed, so he decided to hold back completely on his affection.

I've experienced that too

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Albeit, there are actually more selfless sweet caring men than what it seems - but sometimes they're hidden or overwrought with heartbreak*...

*(sometimes just at the way the world is)
 

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And if I cant, my absence will not be out of spite.

That's something I forgot to mention about being an INTP in a relationship - That we can't comprehend the more common types of "evil" (if I can call it that...), such as going out of one's way to socially harm another (such as ruining a reputation), yelling irrationally, going out of one's way to actively dislike another (ridiculous, I know >.>), doing anything out of spite, etc...

There are several aspects in which an INTP encompasses purity just by his or her nature... at least that's what it seems like to me.
 

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For the sake of knowledge and in a futile attempt to do relationships right, I've watched most of the video. Some random thoughts.

You said what INTP females dislike in other types (Exxx, xSxx, xxFx, xxxJ). I honestly can identify with most of these reasons, is there any diffrence here between males and females? If you stated the same reasonings for INTP males, would they still apply?

You state INTP females like sex. Well, your secret is out now @Jennywocky, you can stop being subtle. (Have mentions been fixed yet?)

'She's going to see that there are bigger things than you... such as ... theoretical physics!' You managed to make me laugh. I think I can live with that quality, haha.

Honestly tho, INTP females. What do you hate about INTP males? The video has lots of advice concerning other types, but as an INTP I think many of these things don't really apply anymore. None of this helps me! :(
 

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For the sake of knowledge and in a futile attempt to do relationships right, I've watched most of the video. Some random thoughts.

You said what INTP females dislike in other types (Exxx, xSxx, xxFx, xxxJ). I honestly can identify with most of these reasons, is there any diffrence here between males and females? If you stated the same reasonings for INTP males, would they still apply?

You state INTP females like sex. Well, your secret is out now @Jennywocky, you can stop being subtle. (Have mentions been fixed yet?)

'She's going to see that there are bigger things than you... such as ... theoretical physics!' You managed to make me laugh. I think I can live with that quality, haha.

Honestly tho, INTP females. What do you hate about INTP males? The video has lots of advice concerning other types, but as an INTP I think many of these things don't really apply anymore. None of this helps me! :(

My strategy has been to take opportunities for experience when single and pay attention to pay attention the emotions of my partner and me while together. It's worked well.

-Duxwing
 

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I think problems arise when they assume Low maintenance = No maintenance.

Or low maintenance = Low quality, and so they are not compelled (By their own emotions) to care for us properly.

I just dont view the world that way.

Just because my television doesnt need to be maintained as my car doesnt mean Im going to neglect it, or try to wreck it.

My emotional attachment to any given person does not affect how good a lover, friend, daughter, or cousin I am; If I say Im going to do something, or be somewhere, I'll do it; I'll show up.

And if I cant, my absence will not be out of spite.

Yes, some parts of my relationship with the INFP were wonderful, but a point of contention came up because apparently I did not fulfill emotional expectations for some incidents where the INFP thought i should have behaved a certain way. Meanwhile, since he never made it clear he needed affirmation, I never gave it to him -- I was respecting him as an individual, and if I had understood he wanted something from me, I would have engaged somehow.

it was a big point of contention in my marriage to an F as well -- I don't remember doing things out of spite (although my ex did and admitted to such), it was all either a failure to meet unspoken expectations or when I actually thought i was doing something positive from my viewpoint.
 

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You state INTP females like sex. Well, your secret is out now @Jennywocky, you can stop being subtle. (Have mentions been fixed yet?)

What? I was being subtle?? :phear:


Honestly tho, INTP females. What do you hate about INTP males?

In general? I think the women INTPs are a little more direct and decisive, and also have a little more well-roundedness, typically (some of which is socialization).

The guys are permitted more growing up to just float through their own mental landscape, so some of those skills are not picked up. There's also that, "Oh, I don't know what my preference is so I won't make a decision." Arrrrg. The trick is to learn to make a decision anyway, which isn't easy in itself but gets easier over time. Being a little more proactive could help you appeal to women in general, since a woman then feels she can depend on you to get things done (so she doesn't have to do everything and make all the decisions) and that you care about things.

With the guys, too, maybe more a tendency toward just processing everything through the strictly logic lens.

There's a range of INTP males, and the ones that have a little more interest in people actually can be really sweet even despite not being conventionally emotive, because there's typically a gentleness, a good-naturedness, an easy-goingness, a simplicity to the interaction. What you see is what you get, there's not a lot of negative social intrigue going on. And INTP guys of that bent typically take people just as they are, without pretense or need for apology, and can be very patient (aside from someone being willfully stupid/ignorant).

Male INTPs don't really have a lot of flash-bang in the teenage years, but that's mostly due to the inexperience of the women who haven't yet learned what they REALLY want in a relationship and keep falling for more extroverted guys who are easier to understand and read and seem more accomplished and confident.
 

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You said what INTP females dislike in other types (Exxx, xSxx, xxFx, xxxJ). I honestly can identify with most of these reasons, is there any diffrence here between males and females? If you stated the same reasonings for INTP males, would they still apply?

Honestly tho, INTP females. What do you hate about INTP males? The video has lots of advice concerning other types, but as an INTP I think many of these things don't really apply anymore. None of this helps me! :(

Hmm... If I were a male INTP - Exxx females would be even more annoying due to the higher pitch in voice; socialized xSxx females could be more useful at doing chores and such within the home, but I would become bored with her; xxFx females would have more room for excuses for inordinately ridiculous behavior; xxxJ females would covertly strive to enforce their so-called rules.
(-_-); I don't like imagining this >.>

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It doesn't seem likely that an INTP female could hate an INTP male or INTP men, in general. An INTP female could be in a good romantic relationship with an INTP male so long as they are both wise and balanced between thinking and feeling while encompassing both meta-thinking and meta-feeling, which often overlap.
 

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Honestly tho, INTP females. What do you hate about INTP males? The video has lots of advice concerning other types, but as an INTP I think many of these things don't really apply anymore. None of this helps me! :(

I love INTP males.

Im an INTP female that skipped over all of the social conditioning that most women are affected by. So there is no real difference between me, and an intp male.


I was a stubborn child, and while my mother tried to keep me out of my room, and into dresses, my father was always the guy that would say "Its cool if she stays here, and watches a few shows with me, right?". He's gotten me out of so many shity church services (And going to church = big, frilly dress at that age) and awkward family outings!

I guess it pays to have laid back parents as an intp female.

INTP males are really the only introverted males I can handle; we never argue (seriously) and I believe it has something to do with both parties being able to clearly see each others thought processes.

But, Im not a fan of many introverts, honestly. Because most of the time they aren't motivated to change anything about themselves, or gain any social skills.
 
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