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Looking at yourself in the mirror

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"Do you like to look at the mirror?"

In order for me to do something, it must serve a purpose; such as shaving.

Its not a question whether you do like it or you dont, you have to.

Lately though, I avoid doing so cause my sexiness overwhelms it and that might lead to catastrophic results; and who has extra money for mirrors these days eh? /Joke.


Does it make you feel good, uncomfortable, or nothing?

Nothingness + Entertainment.
 

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[0]effect;175658 said:
Its not a question whether you do like it or you dont, you have to.

You mean "I have to because I want to live my version of a good life." Your version is only a bit analogous to everyone's but never ultimately the same. I know I don't.
 

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You mean "I have to because I want to live my version of a good life." Your version is only a bit analogous to everyone's but never ultimately the same. I know I don't.

No I dont mean that. You have to look your self at the mirror. There is no way in hell you can avoid or even try not to do it.

It serves a purpose; i.e fix your face, brush your teeth, make sure your hair is good enough to be out there; its a pre-requisite doing to help you maintain your physical self in the outdoings; to go out as "you".
 

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[0]effect;175668 said:
No I dont mean that. You have to look your self at the mirror. There is no way in hell you can avoid or even try not to do it.

It is definitely possible for a human to live without experiencing "mirrors".

It serves a purpose; i.e fix your face, brush your teeth, make sure your hair is good enough to be out there; its a pre-requisite doing to help you maintain your physical self in the outdoings; to go out as "you".

That is all because YOU want to "maintain this physical self". People's reasons for existence differs in that "fixing my face" is only a matter of a "pre-requisite" of certain purposes.

If I lived to be sacrificed, how would "fixing my face" be a requirement?
 

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It is definitely possible for a human to live without experiencing "mirrors".

Major bull. Even the Africaman sees his own reflection in the water. Everyone is curious about how they look.

So its definitely not possible. Unless you are blind. Being blind is not your choice. Its a condition.


"That is all because YOU want to "maintain this physical self". People's reasons for existence differs in that "fixing my face" is only a matter of a "pre-requisite" of certain purposes.

If I lived to be sacrificed, how would "fixing my face" be a requirement?"

Cause if you truly lived with the idea to be sacrificed you would care enough to look good; in order to achieve the idea of being sacrificed you would have to take into account your physical appearance as well; to get social attention that you rapidly need for your cause.

No man would take a second look at a woman who is extremely ugly because she chooses to.

No organization would hire a mess.

If you want to be a fat, ugly woman then good luck with your life of self-sacrifice. I doubt anyone would notice, care, or take a look at.

If you think that being homeless will bring back the VIVALAREVOLUSION era, you need to seriously experience a rude awakening.

Looks do matter.

Tough luck.
 

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[0]effect;175672 said:
Major bull. Even the Africaman sees his own reflection in the water. Everyone is curious about how they look.

Though a tiny possibility, even this innate curiosity's *have* *can* be defeated. A person *can* not have to look at a mirror. Dismissal of this possibility because of consistent observational data on humans is invalid.

Unless you are blind. Being blind is not your choice. Its a condition.

Exactly, people can not *have* to. With or w/o that condition. But is having choice also a condition?


Cause if you truly lived with the idea to be sacrificed you would care enough to look good;
Why would I care?

in order to achieve the idea of being sacrificed you would have to take into account your physical appearance as well
Why would I have to?

To get social attention that you rapidly need for your cause.
What if I don't want this social attention?


No man would take a second look at a woman who is extremely ugly because she chooses to.

No organization would hire a mess.

If you want to be a fat, ugly woman then good luck with your life of self-sacrifice. I doubt anyone would notice, care, or take a look at.

Thinking in absolutes is an inefficient mentality. For exploration and for logical accuracy.

Looks do matter.

To me, they do. But universally? I doubt it.
 

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Though a tiny possibility, even this innate curiosity's *have* *can* be defeated.

Its not up to you. For someone to completely minimize that possibility to the extend of it equaling to zero, that person would have to be locked from birth, inside a dark room until he dies.

Living in a city; cant do anything about it; "mirrors" and "reflections" can be traced from the windows being put at the shops to the ones put at the cars. Seeing your self in the city is unavoidable.

Living in a village; village-people will take a notice at your constant lack of not taking care of your physical characteristics; you would end up with dirt and mud and would have to see your self unless you prefer living a life with everyone avoiding you, mocking you and laughing at you.

Choice is not a condition. Its not a medical term first of all, nor does it need medical treatment. Its not an emotional stage nor a mental state of mind.

You are not conditioned to have a choice. You have access to it every single nanasecond in your own miserable life.

"Why would I care?", "Why would I have to?", "What if I don't want this social attention?"

There are still empty caves and cages available for those who wish to lose human communication. Feel free to sacrifice your self there.

And universally, they do matter. Ofcourse they do. Its obvious, its logical, its there.

Name me one human being, one person that since his birth, he never knew how he looked liked until his death; it was his choice not to know and not through his conditions.

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None.
 

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[0]effect;175682 said:
Its not up to you. For someone to completely minimize that possibility to the extend of it equaling to zero, that person would have to be locked from birth, inside a dark room until he dies.

or simply blind.

Living in a city; cant do anything about it; "mirrors" and "reflections" can be traced from the windows being put at the shops to the ones put at the cars. Seeing your self in the city is unavoidable.

Living in a village; village-people will take a notice at your constant lack of not taking care of your physical characteristics; you would end up with dirt and mud and would have to see your self unless you prefer living a life with everyone avoiding you, mocking you and laughing at you.
2 possible conditions out of an unidentified(perhaps infinite) number of conditions.


Choice is not a condition. Its not a medical term first of all, nor does it need medical treatment. Its not an emotional stage nor a mental state of mind.
I wasn't referring to it as anything medical.

You are not conditioned to have a choice. You have access to it every single nanasecond in your own miserable life.
What about afterlife? Before it? Are we "conditioned" to have life?


And universally, they do matter. Ofcourse they do. Its obvious, its logical, its there.

How do you prove that every human that ever existed had to look at the mirror?

Let's say it is sufficient on a purely curious level but an ongoing process of checking the face daily is another topic. Because, I understand you believe in this fact:there are people who lived who chose to die.

Name me one human being, one person that since his birth, he never knew how he looked liked until his death; it was his choice not to know and not through his conditions.

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None.

Arnold and Cindy. /joke.

This is an Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam.
 

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This is a topic for a little reflection. I find it a trifle reassuring to look in the mirror and see what is supposedly an image of me. I'm a little disappointed the image is usually two-dimensional but I have to live with that. Although I know the image rebouncing off the mirror is not me, I like it because it tells me I'm there in a state of existence on at least one side of the mirror.

Sometimes when I look in the mirror I see other people. This usually happens only when they are around and has the advantage I can see more than one of them. I can talk to either of them but usually only one has the courage to look me straight in the eye.
 

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I find it a trifle reassuring to look in the mirror and see what is supposedly an image of me.

It's always bothered me that the only way I will ever get to see my face is through a mirror. We never get to see ourselves face to face.
 

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When I'm alone I talk to myself often, and I feel so much more comfortable doing it in the mirror. It may be strange, but if I'm alone in my room, I'll just start acting out little scenes that have happened, could have happened, may happened.. just cute little things that crawl inside my mind. A lot of things I don't consider real until I hear them voiced aloud. I talk to myself when I'm not looking in the mirror as well, usually just thinking aloud or replaying a scene that was important to me. Although I have a small deformity that I've quit being self-conscious of because I often forget about it (one of my front teeth is very big, while the one next to it is a baby tooth that is stuck and won't come loose -- inquiring about the dentist is a lost cause, it shall be fixed soon), I am satisfied with my appearance.. at times, at least. I like to come home from school and walk into my kitchen, which has an entire wall being taken up by a mirror, and look at myself to see how people had perceived me that day, if that's how I looked like as I walked from class to class. Often I look in the mirror, and I look so.. tired; I have bags under my eyes I've been aching to get rid of, because they make me look so disheveled and fatigued. Usually I'm satisfied with my appearance, because I consider myself good-looking; I don't care much as to what other people think about me, something I've learned to think a while ago. At least, people whom I don't need to impress. If it's a job interview, yeah, I'll care, I'll dress up in a suit and look nice. But I hate it when people care so much about themselves while their walking down the street -- nobody is going to remember how you after a couple of seconds after seeing you, because they don't know you, nor care. A lot of people don't even notice my tooth anymore, because my personality just overlaps it by so much, and they realize that no part of me has really been hindered by it.

In response to actively searching out a style that doesn't conform, I disagree with the idea. Actively searching it out means that you wish people to know that you're an individual, which means that you care entirely too much about what others think. When I look for clothes, I like what I like, not really giving a shit whether it's conventional or not. If people think it's odd looking or ugly, fine, but I don't -- it's why I'm wearing it.

Usually when I talk to a person, staring straight at them, I don't really see them. I see their eyes, and that much is all. Everything else about them sort of blanks out, and I can only see their words. Therefore when talking to an attractive person (really talking to them, not staring at them and admiring their attractiveness instead of listening.. which I've done, admittedly, but only once or twice xD) or an old person, or a person that I find terribly unattractive, all that matters to me is what they say. It's just kind of odd how my mind works like that.
 
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