It is me: FacetiousPersona. A message to the community.

[ConfoundedPersona]

I have a calculated a basic scheme to produce advantages for me with almost all feasible outcomes. A succinct elucidation of the plan would be a script exploiting the precaution against brute force to effectively disable the account of every active user consecutively in 15 minute intervals for the denial of access to be consistent.

My verbal delineation above should be a sufficient visual representation of my intention. Successful implementation of the plan would incite viable repercussion which consequently hinders any adequate future the board may have.

The current precaution has been demonstrated to be efficient, but there are naturally inherent flaws in it which are vulnerable to manipulation. You could remove it (providing direct access for certain hacking mathods) or introduce an alternate contingency (conceivably less efficient, thus providing higher opportunities for expoloitation).

A condition for my cooperation is relatively simple and easy to provide: I am permitted to return to the INTP Forum without any restrictions. You could presume that I shall coerce additional conditions with further schemes, but I assure everyone on INTPf that I shall not.

The reaction of 'no negotiation' would be inevitable with frequent demands and I would be impaired without any reasonable objectives attainable due to the policy. Submitting to my reasonable demand demand is logical, containing few ramifications in contrast to enforcement of my plan.

I am essentially proposing a mutual agreement for no further hostility or disareement. Any opposition would be completely understandable with continued demands from me, but I currently have merely one that is easy to fulfil. If I breach my imposed condition (implementing a plan, betraying all I've stated here) or behave disloyal to my word (threaten or demand after agreement), I empathize with the decision to neglect all I subsequently state to avoid being manipulated until I leave.

It is rational to submit now when it's unrealistic for any other people to commit similar actions or demands. The INTP board is insignificant overall and a sole user acting as I do is rather improbable. I shall no longer be an issue with compliance.

Thank you,
FacetiousPersona

 

[Latro]

Why the hell would anyone ever believe a promise from someone like you? Serious question, believe it or not. And even then, you say you'd cooperate if you breached your end of the deal, but there's no reason to believe that either, given the circumstances and history. People like you deserve no trust from anyone, IMO.

I don't represent the forum, though. I just seem to have been one of the first to find this thread.

 

[ashitaria]

Latro, calm down.

Don't make the same mistake you did with Cleaverhouse. I know you have good reason to be angry, but let's not jump to conclusions.

@ConfoundedPersona,

I'm never had much experiences with you, but I've heard enough bad things from you, and that it is only right that we are wary of you at the very beginning. And we have good reason too. You have a reputation of being socially manipulative, and that is something that I detest in most people.

I am hoping that you have not started this thread to cause another upheaval in the forum, or another intense round of arguments and debates.

@all other fellow INTP,

let this not become another irrational mob-fest like what happened with Jesin.

 

[Latro]

Latro, calm down.

Don't make the same mistake you did with Cleaverhouse. I know you have good reason to be angry, but let's not jump to conclusions.

@ConfoundedPersona,

I'm never had much experiences with you, but I've heard enough bad things from you, and that it is only right that we are wary of you at the very beginning. And we have good reason too. You have a reputation of being socially manipulative, and that is something that I detest in most people.

I am hoping that you have not started this thread to cause another upheaval in the forum, or another intense round of arguments and debates.

@all other fellow INTP,

let this not become another irrational mob-fest like what happened with Jesin.

ashitaria, you honestly have no idea of the history here. Seriously. It goes a hell of a lot farther than just this most recent attack. And I'm not being excessively hostile. This is a person that has broken promise after promise, over and over again. To trust such a person to hold another deal would be an instance of what I have heard called the textbook definition of insanity: doing the same thing multiple times under the same circumstances and expecting a different result.

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

Any betrayal of mine would be evident when it is difficult for me to be subtle as a result of my reputation. You would also immediately react with a banning of my account, removing the priviledge I requested. I'm willing to not act or scheme with compliance to the stated condition.

No, emotional trust is not ideal with me, but the agreement acknowledged rationally is, us both benefiting via it. A refusal would be inappropriate when presented in the present context, in my opinion.

 

[Mary]

To appease, or not to appease?
I've no IDEA at all to anything this persona has done (I joined after the hacking incident) so I am in no way able to make any sort of judgement on this offer.

 

[ashitaria]

ashitaria, you honestly have no idea of the history here. Seriously. It goes a hell of a lot farther than just this most recent attack. And I'm not being excessively hostile. This is a person that has broken promise after promise, over and over again. To trust such a person to hold another deal would be an instance of what I have heard called the textbook definition of insanity: doing the same thing multiple times under the same circumstances and expecting a different result.

That's why I've said that I have no experience in certain matters. There might be still a chance that he might have turned over a new leaf, no matter how small it might be.

I'm hoping that no member will flame me for pointing out such possibilities as I did last time, because I am only trying to provide rational thinking. What is past is past, though it might affect the present, we never do know what's going to happen in the future.

Neither am I suggesting we trust him. I'm suggesting that if he is truly sincere, we should give him a second chance, but we should not let our guard down until we are absolutely sure that he is, and this we know because of his manipulative nature.

Latro, I understand your hostility towards Persona and the discussion of Jesin's innocence, but what we really need is to calm down now, and solve the problem.

Yes, I believe that most of the members here cannot bring themselves to trust Persona, and I know that many more will attack me for trying to reduce this hostility, but my voice is my voice, no matter how inexperienced I am with the history of this forum.

After all, I am a member of this forum.

 

[Wish]

Why propose this arrangement at all? Why not simply join the forum under some new identity (which you are obviously able to create) and become a contributor through that vessel without shedding light on your true identity?

Even if this arrangement is agreed upon, can you actually expect to be treated the way you wish to be, considering your past?

I'm gonna go ahead and assume you actually do understand this, in which case your fun continues.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Ashitara do you understand that all you contributing to is exactly what you decried in the other thread? Before you continue trying to 'calm' people down; try telling a hysterical person not to be hysterical. It doesn't work. Anyway Latro was justified in his anger, and didn't need self righteous ineffectual 'calming.'

It hardly matters if face has 'turned over a new leaf.' He has already committed very serious offenses, and the very fact he's not willing to accept the consequences is proof enough that he hasn't 'turned over a new leaf.' You should also note Face never indicated he was reformed or even showed remorse for his actions. Idealism is only useful when tempered with rationality.

As for you face; well you must be depressingly bored. Are you enjoying the attention?

 

[Weliddryn]

I have had a friendship with Face, and can vouch for his ruthlessness and psychopathic nature. He's obviously attacked the forum before and should not be ignored.

My patience for him has long since vanished and though the choice seems yours, I suggest reason be adhered to above pride or emotion if the forum is valued, as it is to me.

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

ClaverHouse, I noticed that you viewed this thread and opted to not reply. Interesting demonstration of your thoughts, Mr. Illibility. I'll concede to your reaction as a passive 'no' and behave according to my assumption. People will be disappointed that your irresponsibility and arrogance ensured further issues for the forum.

Oh, how he thinks the negative publicity of acquiescence encompasses worst possibilities for his administration. Foolish and arrogant, it seems. Latro was right when commenting on your total incompetence.

 

[Sugarpop]

Some assumptions made this far:

1) ConfoundedPersona is Face.
2) ConfoundedPersona has an elaborate plan by which it can pretty much rape the forum any time it likes.
3) This thread is worth the bother.

 

[Da Blob]

Might I ask face this one question "Why the Fuck do you want back in?"
I mean there are thousands of forums, why pick this particular one as a target?
(Okay, two - two questions)

 

[Claverhouse]

ClaverHouse, I noticed that you viewed this thread and opted to not reply. Interesting demonstration of your thoughts, Mr. Illibility. I'll concede to your reaction as a passive 'no' and behave according to my assumption. People will be disappointed that your irresponsibility and arrogance ensured further issues for the forum.

Oh, how he thinks the negative publicity of acquiescence encompasses worst possibilities for his administration. Foolish and arrogant, it seems. Latro was right when commenting on your total incompetence.

Your title should have read: 'It is I'.




Claverhouse

 

[Latro]

Latro was right when commenting on your total incompetence.

Pardon the tangent, but I was commenting about a lack of technical competence leading to, for example, a delusional belief in vBulletin being effectively unable to be exploited. This is different from "total incompetence" in a rather obvious way.

Da Blob has an interesting question, incidentally.

 

[flow]

So uh, essentially, you're saying, "Let me hang out with you guys again, or I'll burn this mothafucker down." That's cute! I say she's back in. Also, this is my 1,000 post. So feel lucky that I wasted it on such a silly thread.

Also, I enjoy your attempts to spark up infighting. Please, continue to poke at claverhouse and latro... we're all very impressed!

 

[BigApplePi]

Hi ConfoundedPersona. I don't know you and have been here only a short while. Can you summarize your issue in a few words and I'll try to give you a fair reaction for airing? I'm after un-confounding.

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

Woe is me, Claver. Archaic principles are neglected.

Latro, we are both aware that you were/are thinking he was/is significantly incompetent with his 'expertise'. It was evident with his remarks and easy to extrapolate.

 

[Decaf]

extort - obtain by coercion or intimidation

What you propose is not a ceasefire, but a surrender. Your terms are such that you will stop actively attempting to harm us if we give in to your demands. I would never support such a capitulation. If you believe you could destroy this community singlehandedly, then you exhibit a belief in your superiority, which will never transform into the mutual respect that is required by any healthy community environment. You were given tremendous opportunity to join us, but even at your most agreeable your intent was to change us into something else.

Ignoring all other previous offenses, I can assure you that this "olive branch" as you imagine it is quite enough to earn my enmity. If you feel such derision towards us, why do you wish to be a part? Why not create your own community? Sure its takes a lot of hard work, but that's what the last 3 years have been here. Do you think this forum grew out of the ground like a weed? Found on the ground like a penny? You figure if you can't have it, no one can.

Are you OK with being the unsympathetic villain of a western? Do you have a handlebar mustache and a 5 o'clock shadow?

 

[flow]

Megalomaniacs are so freakin sweet.

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

My username is having problems.

 

[Claverhouse]

That's simply because you were automatically moved to a different user-group. Nothing personal.





Claverhouse

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

That's simply because you were automatically moved to a different user-group. Nothing personal.





Claverhouse

I feel totally unique now. Thank you for satisfying my meglomania.

 

[Sparrow]

Doesn't this idiot have something better to do?(Attempting to) destroy communities is not nice

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

Doesn't this idiot have something better to do?(Attempting to) destroycommunities is not nice

Are you selflessly offering your body to me?

 

[flow]

No! Don't sacrifice the noobs! NOT THE NOOBS!!!

On a side note, I wish I could bake a cake made of rainbows and flowers and sunshine and we could all eat from it and be happy like we once were.. hmmm

*starts baking*

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

No! Don't sacrifice the noobs! NOT THE NOOBS!!!

Claver is in the offer too? My interest is increasing.

 

[fullerene]

face! I mean this with the deepest sincerity: thank you.

I've been getting bored of this place for a while, and sort of wanted to leave, but seem to have grown an addiction. I feel like an alcoholic, hating alcohol but drinking every night anyway.

This gives me a good excuse to find other things to do with myself. *nods politely*. I think I owe you an awful lot of free time. That is... if you carry out your threats. As it is I'll be here going about business as usual, I suppose. I can't help it! I have a problem!

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

face! I mean this with the deepest sincerity: thank you.

I've been getting bored of this place for a while, and sort of wanted to leave, but seem to have grown an addiction. I feel like an alcoholic, hating alcohol but drinking every night anyway.

This gives me a good excuse to find other things to do with myself. *nods politely*. I think I owe you an awful lot of free time.

You should be rational with your time and prioritize it efficiently. I'm glad, my friend.

 

[Latro]

I'm glad, my friend.

Thanks for the laugh, Face. I needed that.

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

Thanks for the laugh, Face. I needed that.

It's deserved, buddy.

 

[BigApplePi]

My username is having problems.

Yeah. I foolishly took this guy seriously and now I find he is a Confounded Facetious Persona.

 

[BigApplePi]

So what if facetious is the only word in the English language using all the vowels in order once.

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

So what if facetious is the only word in the English language using all the vowels in order once.

Brilliant, the first to notice. Proceed to combine it with the other words and formulate the appropriate message for apprehension of an intriguing statement. A clue is: abstemious.

 

[BigApplePi]

If no one uses it, it's not a word. I'm not going to promote being abstemious or anything close to it just to amuse you. Facetious remains the only commonly used word in the English language with all the vowels in order once.

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

If no one uses it, it's not a word. I'm not going to promote being abstemious or anything close to it just to amuse you. Facetious remains the only commonly used word in the English language with all the vowels in order once.

Your thoughts now are disappointing considering the former brillaince.

 

[Hawkeye]

smiley faces don't remind me of jam

Is this normal?

 

[cheese]

I have to say I support Face's return. I think we should give the guy a(nother) chance. What is this forum if not a second chance, an opportunity to be who we truly are? He will have properly destroyed this place when we lose that part of ourselves.

Also, I think the Plan's a sham.

 

[fullerene]

well, I did lol at 'a script' to 'block out' the active members, which clearly works by logging in 5 times every 15 minutes. Meaning, anyone who doesn't want to be shut out by it can just click "remember me" and their problem is solved.

 

[Mello]

How have you been?

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

How have you been?

Cake! We should play an online game in the future to harass another French individual. Who is not bitter against the French?

I declare war upon the Admin of INTPf, French people, and the Jewish. The Jewish one does not require reason.

 

[Cogwulf]

I don't know much of this person, but from what I do know, refusing to comply with his demands could result in the destruction of these boards, -but- letting him in will likely result in the death of this community. Each option carries a risk, which of the two is greater?

Secondly, from what I know, Face is both very intelligent, and very malicious. We have always been at his mercy and always will be, which begs the question, why hasn't he done something like this sooner?
The two answers are:
A) He doesn't have the ability, he is considerably less intelligent than he thinks himself to be
or B) He enjoys this place too much.

If the answer is the latter, he will probably only ever carry out his threat of destroying the board if we insult him greatly or make it impossible for him to interact with us at all. But if he does destroy it I am sure he will help to create a new INTPf but pretending to be someone else.
I am also certain that he has numerous accounts on this board under other pseudonyms to allow him to play with us. Perhaps he didn't just take control of Jesins account, he might actually have been Jesin himself.
After all, the cake is a lie.

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

I don't know much of this person, but from what I do know, refusing to comply with his demands could result in the destruction of these boards, -but- letting him in will likely result in the death of this community. Each option carries a risk, which of the two is greater?

Secondly, from what I know, Face is both very intelligent, and very malicious. We have always been at his mercy and always will be, which begs the question, why hasn't he done something like this sooner?
The two answers are:
A) He doesn't have the ability, he is considerably less intelligent than he thinks himself to be
or B) He enjoys this place too much.

If the answer is the latter, he will probably only ever carry out his threat of destroying the board if we insult him greatly or make it impossible for him to interact with us at all. But if he does destroy it I am sure he will help to create a new INTPf but pretending to be someone else.
I am also certain that he has numerous accounts on this board under other pseudonyms to allow him to play with us. Perhaps he didn't just take control of Jesins account, he might actually have been Jesin himself.
After all, the cake is a lie.

I had no interest in devising schemes until very recently. Frankly, the plans exhibited thus far are unimpressive and I'm confident I'll formulate more elaborate plans in time like usual.

 

[Anthile]

He's just angry that I ignored him yesterday. Just like a child that cries in the supermarket because he doesn't get his Kinder surprise. Grow up already.

 

[ConfoundedPersona]

He's just angry that I ignored him yesterday. Just like a child that cries in the supermarket because he doesn't get his Kinder surprise. Grow up already.

You are: SixFexNixTe. Interesting combination, Anthile.

 

[Melkor]

Well hey sweetie.


I wonder what game you've gone and planned this time?


I shan't lie and say I'm worried, though I am a tad excited.

Is it your move or mine?

Things go so slow I can barely tell.

*yawns*

 

[Cognisant]

from what I know, Face is both very intelligent, and very malicious. We have always been at his mercy and always will be

This made me laugh so hard I almost pissed myself.

Firstly, face has achieved nothing more than making a nuisance of himself, a feat hardly demanding of intellectual prowess, heck it's what most of us try not to do.

Secondly, we're not at his mercy, what face fails to anticipate is that this community, merely a network of people who wish to be networked, could migrate across forums, across the internet, heck even across means of communication, leaving him far behind and utterly alone.

Does that scare you face?
Not in a threatening way of course, no, this is the fear of missing out, of being left out, left behind, and forgotten, a fear deeper than even the fear of death, for it is an altogether more decisive end than the mere extinguishing of life, it is a loss of worth, of importance, of relevance.
Rant for me face, tell me how wrong I am, rant to me until you can rant no more, until there's nothing left but the void of depression clutching you from within, let me hear the mad-with-fear screaming of someone who knows they’re being entombed alive.

I'm in your head, and you can't get me out

Lol, the first stage is denial, so deny for me, deny, deny, deny...

 

[Melkor]

You're such a whore Oreo.


And Cogwulf, shame on you, you cowardly snake, Face is our forum puppy!

*pats Face*

 

[Cogwulf]

Secondly, we're not at his mercy, what face fails to anticipate is that this community, merely a network of people who wish to be networked, could migrate across forums, across the internet, heck even across means of communication, leaving him far behind and utterly alone.

This is what I meant in the first paragraph, his presence here could result in arguments and such which could destroy the community, but if he carried out his threat successfully, only the board would be destroyed and the community would be intact and able to move elsewhere.

Firstly, face has achieved nothing more than making a nuisance of himself, a feat hardly demanding of intellectual prowess, heck it's what most of us try not to do.

If that is true, then:

A) He doesn't have the ability, he is considerably less intelligent than he thinks himself to be

would be the correct answer to my earlier question

And Cogwulf, shame on you, you cowardly snake, Face is our forum puppy!

*pats Face*

But you haven't even got him house-trained yet

 

[Cognisant]

My apologies for quoting you out of context.

Perhaps he didn't just take control of Jesins account, he might actually have been Jesin himself. After all, the cake is a lie.

Btw, loving the paranoia (seriously, it demonstrates great Pness).