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Is life a traumatic event in itself?

WALKYRIA

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answer. now. NOW!
And if it is, how traumatizing is it? Can we have life PTSD? What are the risk factors? Can we desensitize people to not be as traumatized?

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Yes.

Nobody dies a virgin, life fucks us all.
 

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Of course it is.

The first nine months of our existence we're comfortably seeded away from the world. We spend the rest of our existence trying to cope with being mortal against an immortal world.

Everyone handles that differently of course. Some cope with it by focusing on goals in life. Some cope with it by jumping off a building. It is believed that as people get older mental health issues set in through paranoia about encroaching fate.

At least I know when I was 16 I thought I was immortal. Today I really just don't give a fuck. I spend all my time focusing on all the things I couldn't answer when I was a boy. That's enough for me until I die.

Well, that and the notion that I see the world as going in a direction I wouldn't want to be a part of anyway.
 

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Value is subjective. "Traumatic" holds an intrinsic, negative value, correct? I think so. Therefore, no, life is not a traumatic event in itself. Difficult, perhaps. But I believe difficulty is a good thing. I believe we - as well as the other animals - have evolved to be our best through difficulty.

Our current societal set up is such that difficulty is avoided, thus creating a bunch of beings not properly conditioned for difficulty.
 

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Well, there's what they call the trauma of being born which can typically result in a few mental disorders and the like, or maybe someone being more vain or egocentric than usual; etc. Usually some sessions with weed or LSD (not in a party setting) can help with that or change that person's outlook on life, hopefully for the better so that they can be a more suitable human being.
 
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If life itself is traumatizing we can't have PTSD since that entails the trauma has already passed ;)


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No, that's just for separate traumatic events.
 

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A series of traumatic events I think.

Birth - traumatic.
Growing up - traumatic.
Teenage years - traumatic.
Making your way in the world - traumatic.

All you have to look forward to is a probable traumatic death. Think how many trillions of humans have died alone, in horrible, painful situations. Really the only reason we evolved is because of all this horribleness, making things better is the only choice in a awful world. Celebrate what we've created here, it's pretty good if you look around.
 

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Suffering exists.
Life is suffering.
There is an end to the suffering (Nirvana)
This is reached through the Eightfold path.

These are the four Noble Truths of Buddhism.
 

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Well I'll tell you this much, it sure does begin with one, that's for sure!

I just fail to understand how anyone could be traumatized by an event they're most unlikely to remember in the first place. And how could you isolate having been born as a definitive cause of a mental disorder, when everyone who's capable of having a mental disorder has been born?
 

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Most trauma is forgotten, for the very reason of being traumatic.
 

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Not really. Its that the brain is predisposed to be 3/5ths more likely to overconcern itself with anything that can cause danger to it, and 2/5ths more likely to forget the positive experiences because its just programmed to remember that way to protect itself. A lot of it is just your perception is geared that way. You might not realize it at all but you are actually far more likely to forget the good things.
However, if you are looking at life correctly, that is, that the earth is constantly in motion and constantly putting its residents in situations like earthquakes, volcanos, wars, and that it doesn't give any one undue protection, and some people are oblivious to motives and places that are full of dangers, then you aren't really seeing reality with clear eyes. Every moment on earth things happen, so you kind of need to develop a relationship to your planet and live on it with apprecation/awareness of its everyday power. And remember you live on earth, a place that is never the same twice. Journal about both so you remember.
 

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buddhism and enlightment is a hoax imo

one has to eat and drink to survive, buddhism is the denial of all these things, siting and meditate doesnt solve these fundamental problems.
 

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Not really though. There is an invisible force field in chi (qi gong), tai chi, etc that you can't see.
Its similar to the wave and particle. If you are in one mode, all you see is materialism and five sensory reality where the wave is collapsed and things are in that state. In another state where the brain waves are at the speed of light, is creation. It all depends on where you are resonating from. Buddhism is actually the study of life. Its not religion, its watching actual life and getting to master it.

Also, there are different types of Buddhism. I don't want to deny myself anything either. In Buddhism, you can chant nam myoho renge kyo and ask for material things and its perfectly ok. Its actually about this reality, and the next reality. Christianity is about after reality and the promise of something after and expects you to suffer. Buddhism is how to see reality more clearly so you don't suffer.

You can be both. Buddhism doesn't shut out other religions. Also, it is thought that Christ was a student of Buddhism actually. Both Christ and Buddha are teachers that were here to help humans. There were many of these teachers in history - its ok to study as many as you like. The study of humanities includes its religions, arts, philosophies, its all there for us.


 

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Christianity is about after reality and the promise of something after and expects you to suffer.

It is about patience, kindness, and love.

Yes, the after part is important but it is the moral part that matters most.

The quality of a person is in relation to God and the person being One.

Buddhism is how to see reality more clearly so you don't suffer.

That is hard to do and that is why the first step is to make the mind at peace.

It means to observe without judgment and to be non-reactive.

Peace that one finds in Buddhism is often the peace found in Christianity but the deity involved in Christianity is actively present to the person who brings peace to them.
 
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