INTx Eye Color

[Sensi Star]

Is there some connection between eye color(s) and personality type? I have green eyes, and the only other 2 green-eyed people I've ever seen were INTx. Do most people who have green eyes also have an INTx personality?

As an added bonus, Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory has green eyes. However, Jim Parsons may not be an INTJ in real life, so who knows.

Some are misunderstanding my logic here, so to clarify:
I'm NOT suggesting most INTx have green eyes.
I AM suggesting most green-eyed people are INTx.
(In order words, green-eyed people are the data sample to check for INTx, not the other way around.)

I guess I should have named the thread "Green-eye personality type" instead to reflect this logic, so it's partially my fault.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

In the attempt to prevent criticism, can you rethink this one?

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

I don't think there would be any correlation.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

WWHD?

 

[Bird]

lmao

This is cute ^_^


Sometimes my eyes
appear quite green
and I'm no INTx (;

 

[Jennywocky]

Is there some connection between eye color(s) and personality type? I have green eyes, and two other INTPs I've seen had green eyes. These were the only green-eyed people I've seen. Do most people who have green eyes also have an INTx personality?

As an added bonus, Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory has green eyes. However, Jim Parsons may not be an INTJ in real life, so who knows.

Hmmm. Well, I guess for INTx's who are full of crap, their eyes would be brown.

(Unfortunately, my eyes are brown! *gasp* )

 

[Nysamis]

If all or even a majority of INTP eyes were green, what about all the ones in Asia, Africa, and other places where eye color variation possibilities aren't as high as in the West? Those societies wouldn't be doing so well without some INTPs to calibrate their systems to maximum potential...

Clearly the definitive INTP eye color is dark brown.

 

[WittyUsername]

I cant find any logical explanation to believe that personality types and eye colour are related. I have black eyes by the way.

 

[Lullaby]

I, too, have black eyes. Well, they have a hint of dark brown, but it's extremely slight. I've been told my eyes can be extremely intimidating and people avoid looking at them. Stare downs ♥.

 

[Taniwha]

I have hazel colored eyes.

 

[Bird]

YouTube - Ke$ha - We R Who We R



Total INTP.

 

[Sensi Star]

You guys aren't getting my logic here.

I'm NOT suggesting most INTx have green eyes.

I AM suggesting most green-eyed people are INTx.

(In order words, green-eyed people are the data sample to check for INTx, not the other way around.)

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Yeah yeah yeah, I get where you're going, but what you experience is just coincidence. Why would there be a relation between eye color and personality type? It just doesn't make sense.
I'm an INTP and I have blue eyes.

 

[MoonPhantom]

Apparently, I do have green eyes as well.

 

[Sensi Star]

Ugggh, this is so frustrating! Most of your responses are saying,

"I am an INTx and my eye color is not green, so you are wrong." This has nothing to do with my statement, because I am not saying anything about the eye color of INTx people (I screwed up on the title, I know).

What you guys are doing is giving examples of INTx who do not have green eyes, which is NOT applicable to what I'm saying.

You need to give examples of green-eyed people who are not INTx, in order to argue against my statement.
I'd expect people on this forum to have a better grasp on the way logical statements work. I'll try once more... SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE GREEN EYES cannot be a part of this test.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I understand what you mean, but not everybody here knows 20 green eyed people. But alright, I'll stop posting now.

 

[Abraxas]

I have green eyes and I'm an INTP.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Ugggh, this is so frustrating! Most of your responses are saying,

"I am an INTx and my eye color is not green, so you are wrong." This has nothing to do with my statement, because I am not saying anything about the eye color of INTx people (I screwed up on the title, I know).

What you guys are doing is giving examples of INTx who do not have green eyes, which is NOT applicable to what I'm saying.

You need to give examples of green-eyed people who are not INTx, in order to argue against my statement.
I'd expect people on this forum to have a better grasp on the way logical statements work. I'll try once more... SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE GREEN EYES cannot be a part of this test.

You proposed the assertion, we don't have to argue anything. You have to provide evidence for INTx correlating to green eyes not us providing evidence against it.

 

[Jennywocky]

I cant find any logical explanation to believe that personality types and eye colour are related. I have black eyes by the way.

What happens if you don't have eyes?
Does that mean you don't have a personality?
*pondering*

You proposed the assertion, we don't have to argue anything. You have to provide evidence for INTx correlating to green eyes not us providing evidence against it.

You just had to get serious, didn't you? lol

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

What happens if you don't have eyes?
Does that mean you don't have a personality?
*pondering*

no eyes = NO SOUL

 

[EvilScientist Trainee]

Also, you're with bad samples here. How do you expect to find green-eyed non INTP people in an INTP based forum? It's possible, but not really feasible.

 

[Jennywocky]

no eyes = NO SOUL

But I'm white! I already don't have soul!

 

[Fukyo]

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Haha, very good one, Fukyo

 

[aaaw]

This is one of the most illogical posts I have ever seen on an INTP forum.

Based on your personal knowledge of two people and a fictional character on TV you are suggesting that "most green-eyed people are INTx". If this wasn't already bad enough you are seeking to verify your theory by posting a question on a forum for people who test as INTP. How many non-INTP people (with or without green eyes) do you think participate on this forum in the first place?

Apart from your limited personal observations (two people and a fictional character) what other evidence do you have to suggest there is any relationship whatsover between the colour of one's eyes and the way they process information?

Imagine I have two friends who test as INTP. I happen to notice that both friends have big toes that are above two centimetres in diameter (furthermore, an actor who plays a character that would likely test as INTP also has a big toe above two centremetres in diameter). Does this warrant an invesigation into the correlation between brain functioning and size of big toes?

 

[Wizardry]

There is some connection between fair features and a certain kind of intelligence. Obviously not guaranteed and with a range like everything else, notice I'm not pegging it "INTP" intelligence. Light eyes were a mysterious cold climate mutation. Anyway, think about it. You live in a place where you have like 3 months to stockpile enough food so grandma and kids don't die, you have to worry about migrating animal herds, heavy snow, water, heat, etc. You have to have the smarts to "attempt to guess at the future". This leads to thinking that is less sensory, less "in the moment" thinking since it isn't as advantageous, not unless you are raiding barbarians who attack and loot those who prepared. Also consider they would have to go through long periods indoors without wanting to kill each other. All these things become less of a problem as technology develops.

VS Some group of people who live in a lush area with a nice climate and there is plenty of food and water. This leads to more "cunning" and "opportunistic" thinking since its reproductively more favorable. Nature sharpens populations down. The more forces working to kill you off the harder you have to develop to work against them, otherwise you just plain die and don't spread your genetics. When those forces are removed the population stagnates (less selection pressure) until some other determining factor comes along. Also, the more a population is whittled down its more likely that whatever favorable recessive traits are in the gene pool will pop up in greater frequency.

There is a lot more to it concerning hormone issues, allergies, nutrition in general, brain inflammation, body pH, but I was trying to be brief. Also some interesting shit about beer in particular that further complicates matters, I don't completely understand it all so I won't go into that. There are many articles about the weirdness of Europeans and their BLUE eyes (green is linked to the blue) and intelligence. Not that I'm claiming it as fact, just its easier to search: "blue eyes intelligence", "rh blood factor intelligence". Tons of information and some weirdness.

@ aaaw- There are already links to finger length and neuronal growth as they are indicative of hormones. If there is any recurring pattern it is always good to check into it further, not doing so is just stupid.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Is there a link between differential psychological traits, such as type, and the eye colour which the person prefers?

It seems plausible; if, for example a particular eye colour was rarer, this divergence from the norm would be viewed negatively by the type of person likely to conform, and stick to the dominant system, but be viewed positively by those attracted to that which goes against the norm - the new and novel. Alternatively there could be aesthetic reasons, with a difference in aesthetic preference for eye colour across personality kinds.

So, we have some possible mechanisms whereby over generations we would indeed get a correlation between type and eye colour - due to difference in preference. Such a hypothesis would be tested from two fronts - collecting data of personality factors with eye colour and checking for correlation, and doing the same for preference of eye colour.

 

[Anthile]

If there was a reliable link between eye colour and personality, people would have figured it out ages ago. So no.

 

[ElvenVeil]

What happens if you don't have eyes?
Does that mean you don't have a personality?
*pondering*

you win the thread , hands down

 

[Wizardry]

If there was a reliable link between eye colour and personality, people would have figured it out ages ago. So no.

In some cases they have, just such things get buried because the moment you mention any links whatsoever to phenotypical traits or certain alleles linked with a particular culture or group functioning it immediately gets misinterpreted and people cry "racist". Tons of research about personalities and allele clusters. I see stuff about Ashkenazi Jews, the Maori tribe...etc.

 

[aaaw]

the Maori tribe

You must mean Maori tribes

 

[Stoic Beverage]

I know four green-eyed people (well enough to roughly type), whose types are
ExFx
ExxJ
ISFx
IxTJ

 

[Sensi Star]

 

[EFM]

YES YES YES. This makes so much sense. Because Green eyes suggest INTP, Blond Hair suggests stupidity, and having big hands suggest.... ? ....!!!!
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW, ALL HAIL THE GREEN EYED, NOT BLOND, BIG HANDERS

-this post is an abomination, but its your fault

 

[GottabeKB]

YouTube - Ke$ha - We R Who We R



Total INTP.

This sarcasm= win.

Kesha is definitely an INTP! HAA when cows fly! Because that's even more unlikely than pigs are to fly!
P.S. if you still didn't notice... Kesha has green eyes.

 

[WSidis]

Idk, K3$ha does seem like she could be an INTP, she just has to put on the front of an EXFP, who knows what she really is? I do, and it's 100% INTP.

So much for the haters debunking the green eye allele/INTP connection.

BTW: I have green eyes.:smiley_emoticons_mr

 

[Anthile]

Idk, K3$ha does seem like she could be an INTP, she just has to put on the front of an EXFP, who knows what she really is? I do, and it's 100% INTP.

So much for the haters debunking the green eye allele/INTP connection.

BTW: I have green eyes.:smiley_emoticons_mr

 

[Sensi Star]

YouTube - Ingenious Minds: John E. Robison - PART 1 of 2

Green Eyes
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YouTube - ‪Ingenious Minds-‬ Invisible Genius

Green Eyes

I'll admit in hindsight it's a little presumptuous to assume an INTx tendency for green-eyed people, but there is definitely some trend I'm noticing: certain uncommon personality traits that noticeably set one apart 'average person', possessed by most green-eyed people I've met or seen.
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[Hadoblado]

I know I may get stomped for this BUTTTTT...
I also know many INTPs with green or hazel eyes, myself included. I have actually pondered exactly the same thing myself...
Eye colour could even have slight causation over personality. Something along the lines of "I have an uncommon and unchangeable physical attribute, I will never be part of the crowd, I should focus more attention on thinking for myself". Obv a little bit dumbed down, and more on a subconscious level, but it's possible.
I'm a actually disappointed by some of the responses here, they almost seem... closed minded? OP was only making an observation. Also his sample was three people, as he included himself and two friends. Me and the OP combined have a sample of seven green eyed INTX + 1 INFP + 1 ISTJ, or 7/9 people with green eyes have INTX personality type. This is obviously a very, very biased sample but just the fact that someone else made the same observations as I did, makes me feel as if it's worth at least a second glance, as opposed to laughing him out of the room.

 

[crippli]

I believe vision is related to personality. But have not heard that eye colour is related to vision much, as light strikes the rods and cones, while eye colour is just pigmentation of the iris, protection from sun? like darker skin? I've seen a few references that darker eye colour can give better reaction times, but the research is not conclusive. And there is light sensitivity. That was all I could find.

Looking at how light is interpreted I suspect have the greater impact on personality.

/non green eyes.

 

[soraya]

INTJ - green eyes

That being said, no offense, but the idea that eye color indicates personality is ridiculous. People aren't refuting the hypothesis because they are irrational and don't get it. They're refuting it because it's irrational at best.

However, I'm going to take a guess and say that you're probably of Northern or Central European descent and, if you're American, that you have some Celtic or Germanic ancestry. That's because green eyes (a product of low melanin) are most prevalent in those ethnic groups. Socioeconomically you're more likely to associate with people from a similar background. So if you are from these groups you are more likely to know people who are genetically predisposed to being blue/green eyed. Furthermore, you're probably more likely than other ethnic groups to take an interest in MBTI. Jung was from central Europe. A person's theories tend to be more prevalent in similar cultures than dissimilar ones simply because they are usually philosophically and culturally more appealing to those groups.

It also might be possible that INTX types, because of their affinity for systems and their introspective nature, are more drawn, on average, to studying MBTI. From these 2 points we could conjecture that the most likely group of people to study MBTI are people of Northern or Central European descent (genetic predisposition to being green/blue eyed) who also are of an INTX type.

EVEN if one were to find a correlation between green eyes and INTX it would most likely be because, culturally, people whose ancestry genetically predisposes them to having blue/green eyes are most familiar with MBTI and, of those people, those who habitually study systems and engage in introspection (INTX types) are most likely to study MBTI, and thereby be able to tell you their type. But just because a certain ethnic group with a predisposition to a certain eye color is most likely to be able to tell you they are INTX does not mean that people with green eyes are more likely to be INTX. Correlation does not imply causation. There is no genetic link.

Edit: I'm also going to note that Central/Northern Europeans as well as Americans (who are mostly of some Germanic/Celtic ancestry) are most likely to speak English fluently and have access to the internet. Aka, they can access INTP forum. So the population of INTP forum is also probably heavily biased towards having an ancestry that features the allele for green eyes, which is why you're getting so many a high percentage of green eyed people replying to this thread.

 

[ElvenVeil]

I know I may get stomped for this BUTTTTT...
I also know many INTPs with green or hazel eyes, myself included. I have actually pondered exactly the same thing myself...
Eye colour could even have slight causation over personality. Something along the lines of "I have an uncommon and unchangeable physical attribute, I will never be part of the crowd, I should focus more attention on thinking for myself". Obv a little bit dumbed down, and more on a subconscious level, but it's possible.
I'm a actually disappointed by some of the responses here, they almost seem... closed minded? OP was only making an observation. Also his sample was three people, as he included himself and two friends. Me and the OP combined have a sample of seven green eyed INTX + 1 INFP + 1 ISTJ, or 7/9 people with green eyes have INTX personality type. This is obviously a very, very biased sample but just the fact that someone else made the same observations as I did, makes me feel as if it's worth at least a second glance, as opposed to laughing him out of the room.

I agree that keeping an open mind is important.. But as the OP suggests a connection between green eyes and INTX, then it deserves to be stomped . . Because it is a completly ridiculous thing to suggest, as mentioned by others. .
as for the 7/9 survey it is not worth a lot.. and when I say a lot, I really mean nothing. But I guess you know that. We can't make a survey on an INTP forum to determine if eye colour is connected to perosnalities. It would match that you went to a zoo to determine if animals in general are living behind bars .

If this thread were to be taken serious and we still wish to raise the question 'is there a correlation between eye colour and personality' , I would have looked at the tones of each eye colour. That way we would not rule out the possibility that an african could be an INTX

I believe vision is related to personality.

what makes you say that ? or rather, how is there a connection between vision and personality ?

 

[Hadoblado]

Very nice post Soraya, tho I'm pretty sure nobody implied causation, just correlation. Also, although I very much like your causality tree, we are not necessarily dealing with people who can identify their own personality type. Although I know a few INTPs, they do not recognise themselves as such.
@ Elven Veil - I agree that it is unlikely but we shouldn't dismiss things on that basis alone. I guess it hits a note with me when people shut down trains of thought with rhetoric and social clout rather than logic.
I like the zoo analogy, it seems we will need to find a green eyes forum and start testing personalities rather than going to an INTP forum and testing eye colour.

 

[Trebuchet]

Soraya, that was a beautiful explanation of population attributes, sample bias, and the need to state one's assumptions before drawing conclusions from them. Nicely done.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

 

[notrightnow]

First husband green eyes ESFP
his mother green eyes ENFJ

 

[crippli]

(green/blue eyed)

Blue eyes?

what makes you say that ? or rather, how is there a connection between vision and personality ?

Vision is input and part of the package. A person with colour deficiency will focus on form, while a person who see more colour(form deficiency?) will focus on colour. This will make a rather different scene and I would guess will mould ones personality to a degree. Not sure how much vision influence personality. I guess the percentage is high. Both by light that is received, and how the light is interpreted/communicated by the mechanics of the eye and brain.

 

[Sensi Star]

I am not as committed to this theory as I may seem to be. My main purpose in this to stimulate discussion, but the observations that led to this still provoke my thought and interest in inquiring further.

Is there a link between differential psychological traits, such as type, and the eye colour which the person prefers?

It seems plausible; if, for example a particular eye colour was rarer, this divergence from the norm would be viewed negatively by the type of person likely to conform, and stick to the dominant system, but be viewed positively by those attracted to that which goes against the norm - the new and novel. Alternatively there could be aesthetic reasons, with a difference in aesthetic preference for eye colour across personality kinds.

So, we have some possible mechanisms whereby over generations we would indeed get a correlation between type and eye colour - due to difference in preference. Such a hypothesis would be tested from two fronts - collecting data of personality factors with eye colour and checking for correlation, and doing the same for preference of eye colour.

As this explains, it is certainly plausible to postulate a correlation between an uncommon eye color and 'deviant' personality traits, not necessarily on the basis of genetics, but more reasonably environmental factors.

First of all, eye contact and the interpretation of eyes plays a huge role in social interaction IMO. You also cannot deny that predominantly green eyes (may have 'shards' of other colors) really stand out. Therefore people notice them, and at the same time (subconsciously) realize that it is a rare eye color. This could result in a green-eyed person being treated differently by others, AND/OR the green-eyed person independently regarding oneself as different, both of which would foster the development of deviant/uncommon or non-conformist personality traits.

I have received many many comments about my eyes, most commonly about how "unique" they are, sometimes "weird", especially at a young age. I can't rule out that this contributed somehow to me regarding myself as different and ultimately becoming a non-conformist.

 

[Trebuchet]

I am not as committed to this theory as I may seem to be.

I know some people who are truly dedicated to certain ideas and I don't think you talk like that. I don't even think this is a bad topic for discussion. But - not meaning any offense to you - I still think Soraya's argument was beautifully laid-out.

 

[Glordag]

Even though I, myself, doubt there's a correlation, I'm astounded by the responses in this thread. Maybe it's just me, but they come off as very narrow minded and absolute. The OP may be proposing something that is far in left field, but consider how many scientific discoveries have come from a seemingly absurd hypothesis. Additionally, to completely dismiss the OP's hypothesis from as small a sample set as the OP has to support the hypothesis is pretty ridiculous. Furthermore, even after the OP explained how his hypothesis was being misinterpreted, a couple of you continued to misinterpret the original proposition.

So, despite my doubt of the hypothesis, I will simply state that I have hazel (mostly green) eyes and consider myself an INTP.

I think the OP should continue to think of seemingly absurd ideas. Someone has to. *shrug*