INTP = untidiest?, ESFJ = tidiest?

[Words]

I = inward focus > not outward (clothing focused), not social appeal.
N = hidden meaning focus > not sensory towards laundry or style of clothing.
T = Analysis > not bothered by complaints of others about them being smelly.
P = Procrastination of baths and change of clothes > can adapt with being called "stinky".

EDIT:ESFJ...just opposite.

 

[Adymus]

Ha, I think it might actually be ISFJ

Si's anal retentive obsession with keeping things in the places they are supposed to be, with Fe's fear of people not liking them for having a messy house.

 

[Words]

Ha, I think it might actually be ISFJ

Si's anal retentive obsession with keeping things in the places they are supposed to be, with Fe's fear of people not liking them for having a messy house.

Your cognitive analysis on ESFJ vs. ISFJ please? oh and INTP too.


With MBTI, *I* for indirect influence of others regarding him/herself as negatively appealing vs. *E* for just outward focusing.

 

[Adymus]

Your analysis on ESFJ vs. ISFJ please?

You know what? No!

Last time I gave you a lengthy analysis on something, you didn't even read it!

 

[Words]

You know what? No!

Last time I gave you a lengthy analysis on something, you didn't even read it!

Well thanks for nothing.

Just in case you change your mind: make it short please.

 

[tashi]

I = inward focus > not outward (clothing focused), not social appeal.
N = hidden meaning focus > not sensory towards laundry or style of clothing.
T = Analysis > not bothered by complaints of others about them being smelly.
P = Procrastination of baths and change of clothes > can adapt with being called "stinky".

EDIT:ESFJ...just opposite.

Actually, I'm a very neat and organized person. I haven't ALWAYS been this way, but one day I just decided to be clean. It literally happened over night. I spent one entire day doing nothing but cleaning my room, and when I woke up the next day, my room was clean. I never had a problem with it again.

I don't do it for other people, I could care less what they think of my room. I do it because I enjoy cleaning and being in a clean and nicely decorated bedroom.

I think you have to take into account that INTP's enjoy systems, and the organization that goes along with them. Honestly, I think it could go either way. Some INTP's may be very neat and organized(like me), and others might be very messy. There is always the procrastination to consider.

Maybe INTP's are more likely to be messy or neat at certain time of their lives. Stress could definatly be a factor. When I'm extremely stressed out, I'll spend hours doing nothing but vacuuming and organizing my room.

I really have nothing to say about ESFJ's, because I know very little about them...

 

[intuitivet]

I'm a neat and organise person, it helps me relax to sort through my folders and organise my book shelves. I also have OCD in my family so it may be something to do with that. My mum (ISTP) is very neat and hate people who are messy and disorganised, so that's probably another reason I'm pretty tidy.
An ESFJ I knew (and did not get along with) was veeery messy. His desk was cluttered, games and paper and technology everywhere.

 

[Mello]

My sister is a ESFJ and her rooms is messy her carpet is stained with purple, there are clothes on the ground, and random things just scattered around. My room is cleaner.

 

[saffyangelis]

Every time you attempt to correlate a small, insignificant trait from your everyday life or personal preferences to a personality type and then make a thread about it in a MBTI forum, a kitten dies. True story.

*watches a kitten fall over and die* =P

Also, my ESFJ sister's room is usually messier than mine - she's often out when my mum's wandering around bugging people to tidy up so she's not under as much pressure to tidy it as I am. She's also perfectly happy with having everything all over the floor, since she finds it easier to find things then.

I'm not particularly tidy, but I'm still a lot tidier than she is.

 

[ashitaria]

Ah well. In the end, it all sums down to experience. Not potential.

 

[Words]

Even though its based on experience and values, I've always thought that personality affects even these external factors.
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Though I like everyone's examples, can someone talk more MBTI'ish?

 

[ashitaria]

Not me, that's for sure.

 

[Puffy]

I think INT's are inclined to be tidier rather than messier, but I don't have proof, but all INT's I know are quite tidy people (myself included)

No offence Cauterize but your MBTI analysis is hardly thorough All I know is that J's tend to be more organised and prefer tidier workspaces so perhaps this reflects tidyness in some way?

 

[Words]

I think INT's are inclined to be tidier rather than messier, but I don't have proof, but all INT's I know are quite tidy people (myself included)

No offence Cauterize but your MBTI analysis is hardly thorough All I know is that J's tend to be more organised and prefer tidier workspaces so perhaps this reflects tidyness in some way?

Maybe your right. My sister (ISFJ) is messier than anyone I know.
Nonetheless, *any* reasons for INT=tidy? you must have something..

 

[LTDE]

Upbringing is a big factor. Both my parents worked full time for most of the time I was growing up, so they couldn't really be bothered keeping the house perfectly tidy like a stay at home mother would. All of my siblings are quite untidy.

I enjoy having a clean and orderly room, and the sense of satisfaction when I finish cleaning it, but I also like that I can be sort of comfortable living in disorderly and trashy environment. I like that I can adapt and not be so uptight about petty things, and seeing what weird things result when I do what I feel. That bricked computer lying in the middle my my floor ended up as a lampstand. Pseudo-bohemian, I guess..

I cleaned my INFP friends room, and she complained that it was too clean, and said she's a messy person. I suppose she felt like it was a part of her individuality. The top section of her wardrobe hadn't been cleaned out yet and it had piles of junk in it, I wanted to clean it..

 

[Ermine]

I = inward focus > not outward (clothing focused), not social appeal.
N = hidden meaning focus > not sensory towards laundry or style of clothing.
T = Analysis > not bothered by complaints of others about them being smelly.
P = Procrastination of baths and change of clothes > can adapt with being called "stinky".

EDIT:ESFJ...just opposite.

...ouch. I may be a strong INTP, but I actually care about my personal upkeep. Maybe it's because I'm an artist, but I'm pretty sensitive to what I wear, and how aesthetically appealing it is. But I will give you that I don't really care about cleaning my room as long as I have enough clean clothes to wear, I can find stuff, and I have room to walk in my room. And cleanliness is one thing I don't procrastinate. My hair gets greasy pretty quick if I don't shower every day, so...

I actually think that the inferior Fe would instill some motivation to do personal upkeep, if only to satisfy others.

 

[Words]

I actually think that the inferior Fe would instill some motivation to do personal upkeep, if only to satisfy others.

That's what I'm thinking about.

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I use to be very uncomfortable with unorganized objects and my hands get "twitchy". Now I've changed---finding cleanliness mundane.

 

[walfin]

I use to be very uncomfortable with unorganized objects and my hands get "twitchy". Now I've changed---finding cleanliness mundane.

Tidiness!=cleanliness

I'm really messy but I assure you I take a bath at least once a day.