Intp intelligence

[Coolydudey60]

A few people on the forum have said that their iq seems to be higher than that of an average person. Thus even though to get into the international high iq society you need to be in the upper 5% of the population or into Mensa 2% I wander what percentage of intp's that is.
Have a look at this site and try Gigi sprint http://www.gigiassessment.com/
If you know a better iq test please suggest it
Also this is NOT a thread for discussing the accuracy of iq and blabla dronedrone.... If you have the time to take a 6 minute test or something else that you know and you want to just post the results, cause I think it might be interesting.

By the way does anyone know what the word procrastinate means?

 

[Deleted member 1424]

PSA:
It's very irritating when people dismiss valid arguments with comments like 'blabla dronedrone' and the ilk. If you can't defend your stance, then admit you're wrong and learn from it. >.<

 

[Fukyo]

A few people on the forum have said that their iq seems to be higher than that of an average person. Thus even though to get into the international high iq society you need to be in the upper 5% of the population or into Mensa 2% I wander what percentage of intp's that is.
Have a look at this site and try Gigi sprint http://www.gigiassessment.com/
If you know a better iq test please suggest it
Also this is NOT a thread for discussing the accuracy of iq and blabla dronedrone.... If you have the time to take a 6 minute test or something else that you know and you want to just post the results, cause I think it might be interesting.

Why hello there.

By the way does anyone know what the word procrastinate means?

Was that so hard?

 

[Wish]

It says I got a 100.
2easy

 

[typus]

^he was gonna do it later anyways

 

[SQ_Minion]

 

[Facepalm]

That one is as useless as they come.

Try this one: http://www.cerebrals.org/wp/?page_id=44

 

[Adymus]

Also this is NOT a thread for discussing the accuracy of iq and blabla dronedrone.... If you have the time to take a 6 minute test or something else that you know and you want to just post the results, cause I think it might be interesting.

Unfortunately it is because of my stance on the accuracy, or validity rather, of IQ tests that I refuse to participate in them in protest.

 

[jchazardous]

I just manage to fit into Mensa. 130ish.

 

[Puffy]

I have a friend in Mensa, I am fairly sure the requirement is at least 140, maybe 145.

 

[snafupants]

^ nah, two standard deviations above the mean, which depending on the test and standard deviation (i.e., 15 or 16 points) would be 130 or 132. perfectly attainable. for your edification, 141 would be approximately 1/192 people in the general population. unfortunately, since this is a bell curve, there is an equally dumb counterpart out there somewhere, boasting an iq of 59. this hypothetical person, lets call her tina, is probably happier though.

 

[Glordag]

Takes a step onto a conveniently placed soapbox.

I'm not as concerned with whether or not IQ tests are accurate or consistent as I am with the fact that they are associated with intelligence. I consistently score high on them, but it seems that the older I get, the less stock I put into them. I would actually (subjectively, of course) say that one of the great benefits of MBTI is that we can really begin to see just how many different kinds of ways a person can be intelligent.

Disclaimer: on the spot stereotyping and generalization of functions below.
As an example, Fred the "typical INTP" with high Ti and Ne thinks of himself as extremely intelligent due to his capacity to process information internally and inherently "pick up on" patterns, meanings, and other information from the outside world. Sandra the "typical INTJ" thinks of herself as extremely intelligent because she comes up with wonderful ideas to solve problems and is able to apply those ideas and patterns to consistently make sense of the world around her. Who is more intelligent? Who knows.

I doubt an IQ test will prove anything one way or another other than who can better discern patterns, remember trivial details, and organize presented information.

Steps off soapbox.

 

[Coolydudey60]

PSA:
It's very irritating when people dismiss valid arguments with comments like 'blabla dronedrone' and the ilk. If you can't defend your stance, then admit you're wrong and learn from it. >.<

It's just that some people agree when some don't and thats why I didn't want to discuss it

 

[Coolydudey60]

Cause of a slow connectIon I can't take the test though

 

[The Gopher]

That one is as useless as they come.

Try this one: http://www.cerebrals.org/wp/?page_id=44

the problem with that one is that I saw hundreds of possible patterns.

 

[Agent Intellect]

I got 130 on the test from OP

I got 128 on test from Facepalm (and it was too long, I guessed on the last 7 or so).

That seems to be consistent with my usual average.

 

[Melllvar]

@several people:
Some IQ tests use a standard deviation of 23 instead of 15 or 16. Numerical scores are meaningless, what we really care about is the percentile ranking or standard deviation (actually, most of us probably don't care about that either). An IQ of about 135 on some scales is equivalent to about 155 on other scales (I didn't do the actual conversion). Yet 100 = 100 on both scales. So you can clearly fudge the numbers easily to make yourself seem smarter than you are in casual conversation. Anyway, discuss percentiles/standard devs, not numerical scores.

Disclaimer: I hate IQ tests. They're borderline immoral.

If you want to have some real fun, try taking the culture-fair Foritensum test or some of the ones by Paul Coojimans. They're specifically designed for people who are "off the charts" so to speak (the WAIS only goes up to 145, w/ a standard dev of 15, IIRC). They're also really frikkin' hard. There's a chart of the distribution of how well people who actually took them did on them: here.

Edit: Also, it's highly debatable that IQ/intelligence actually obeys a normal distribution, except maybe around the middle. They just like to use the bell curve because it makes the math easier.

 

[Jennywocky]

By the way does anyone know what the word procrastinate means?

I hope this is an INTP joke.

(If not, I'll answer you tomorrow.)

 

[Coolydudey60]

Unfortunately not, I'm not even 14 yet

 

[Anchorite]

I only got a 104 on the OPs test. IQ tests really piss me off. I don't think it's fair to judge intelligence purely on the ability to see someone else' Intended pattern.

 

[Coolydudey60]

I don't think it is either but it was just to see woe peoples answers... It would have been better as a poll

 

[James Black]

I got 131 on the OPs test. Sort of disenchanted: if the "difficulty" meter was a proper guide, I got every question right: if my certainty on each question is a proper guide as well, it says the same. Its not long enough to give a 100% accurate measurement (not that IQ is 100% accurate, but I believe (perhaps against the common consensus here) you can at least semi-measure intelligence. "Measure what is measurable, and make measurable what is not so." - Galileo. We sure try our best, at least.) and if the quiz is randomly generated I wouldn't be surprised if everyone at like, 128 and higher got all the questions correct.

Also, to Anchorite: while it may not seem fair, and surely someone with 100 IQ may prove smarter than his 150 IQ counterpart in certain areas, we aren't given the pleasure of having easily recognized patterns in the real world. It really bothers me, to be honest, to see in classes---especially my maths classes, where I see it most---that the trend is to teach the rules which were derived from patterns, but not teach the patterns. Everyone is memorizing the rules, and I memorize the patterns that make up the rules, only to later on find out, "hey, this pattern I memorized applies to this new ruleset everyone has to relearn." I think education would be better if we tried to teach WHY. Maybe not in place of WHAT, but alongside it. Even those who can't recognize the patterns would have a chance to understand them, and I believe that would help increase the general understanding of the area they're learning.

 

[Coolydudey60]

Also, to Anchorite: while it may not seem fair, and surely someone with 100 IQ may prove smarter than his 150 IQ counterpart in certain areas, we aren't given the pleasure of having easily recognized patterns in the real world. It really bothers me, to be honest, to see in classes---especially my maths classes, where I see it most---that the trend is to teach the rules which were derived from patterns, but not teach the patterns. Everyone is memorizing the rules, and I memorize the patterns that make up the rules, only to later on find out, "hey, this pattern I memorized applies to this new ruleset everyone has to relearn." I think education would be better if we tried to teach WHY. Maybe not in place of WHAT, but alongside it. Even those who can't recognize the patterns would have a chance to understand them, and I believe that would help increase the general understanding of the area they're learning.

I know exactly what you mean about that thing in maths, and I tend to do it myself. The one thing that is a MUST for me in maths is proving what we are learning if it's possible and it certainly has been up until now

 

[walfin]

I bet most really intelligent people don't sign for the International High IQ Society and probably suspect it is some kind of scam.

By the way does anyone know what the word procrastinate means?

Was that so hard?

There was probably some deeper meaning behind the question, wasn't there?

 

[James Black]

If I qualified for Mensa or the Triple Nine Society, I question if I'd join. On one hand, I would enjoy, and could use, intellectual conversation beyond my comprehension to help nurture my mind, but on the other, I don't want to appear overly-proud or suggest superiority over others, not in the club.

...However, with that aside, I'd probably join anyway. I can't imagine it'd be too difficult to keep it secret (its like your religion: why wave it around? I hate the atheists who must let the world know they're atheist and wave their lack of religion around like a flag more so than the Christians who try to convert them) and it might look nice on a resume.

 

[Coolydudey60]

There was probably some deeper meaning behind the question, wasn't there?

No there wasn't...

 

[Melllvar]

I qualified but didn't join because it costs $60/yr, and I can get intellectual stimulation other ways (this forum for example). From what I've heard most people are there either to meet women/men, meet other "smart" people or because they're obsessed with their IQ. But I've never been, so I wouldn't know for sure.

 

[Coolydudey60]

Ok I found what procrastination means

 

[BigApplePi]

Coolydudey60

If we are too complex to exist by chance and thus had to be created by god, and god is therefore more complex, who created god?

Answer: God created God. At first He was just there asleep. He walked in His sleep and having plenty of time got lucky with the right combination discovered He existed. Then He used this new intelligence (scoring perfect on the I.Q. test) to carry out the acts we witness today.

 

[Geminii]

If I qualified for Mensa or the Triple Nine Society, I question if I'd join.

INTs aren't really joiners, either. How many of us have local groups we attend in person at least once a week, and that we joined as adults without pressure from family or friends?

 

[Glordag]

INTs aren't really joiners, either. How many of us have local groups we attend in person at least once a week, and that we joined as adults without pressure from family or friends?

I have a chess club that I attended regularly as a kid. College screwed that up, and I've attempted to go regularly since I've moved back from college, but I always end up skipping out and then not going back for months ): .

 

[Reluctantly]

I only got a 104 on the OPs test. IQ tests really piss me off. I don't think it's fair to judge intelligence purely on the ability to see someone else' Intended pattern.

Haha, that's one way to see it .

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I think IQ tests are geared towards people with great fluid intelligence, this is why I don't really care for it. Obviously INTJs and ENTJs will do well on it, while ENTPs and INTPs might suffer from lag time.

I wonder if there is a test to measure your ability to penetrate things.

 

[SQ_Minion]

I wonder if there is a test to measure your ability to penetrate things.

There is. If she gets pregnant, you pass.

 

[Nyuura]

At some sort of children's program 2 years ago and my IQ happened to be 128. But IQ doesn't mean all that much at all, I mean if someone is more intelligent than the average person it will most likely show that, but that's about it. Besides, all the numbers really do is create unnecessary competition.

 

[Amerally]

I was dating with MENSA member. He is very sociable, he organizes test so I won't take an official test in my city.
He invited me on MENSA meeting but it wasn't good time, we were breaking up. They were learning bridge (so he wouldn't be ashamed of me if were with him there).

But...everyone named him Mensa, he wears t-shirts with text -something about MENSA.

World elite...

 

[EyeSeeCold]

-something about MENSA.
Elite of world...

 

[Deridaburi]

That one is as useless as they come.

Try this one: http://www.cerebrals.org/wp/?page_id=44

I got 133 on this one. (For an 18 year old male)

 

[mke2686]

That one is as useless as they come.

Try this one: http://www.cerebrals.org/wp/?page_id=44

lol i got 127 and on the last 10 i picked random answers cuz i got bored =)

 

[snafupants]

I think IQ tests are geared towards people with great fluid intelligence, this is why I don't really care for it. Obviously INTJs and ENTJs will do well on it, while ENTPs and INTPs might suffer from lag time.

I wonder if there is a test to measure your ability to penetrate things.

What do you mean by "penetrate things"? Like test more complex executive function tasks? Come up with insightful, original solutions? The test format itself makes sense to me though, both crystallized and fluid intelligences are apparent in the real world and influence one another (they tend to correlate with one another too). Also, when you say penetrate things realize these are used in schools with sometimes two thousand kids and administration time is important.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

What do you mean by "penetrate things"? Like test more complex executive function tasks? Come up with insightful, original solutions? The test format itself makes sense to me though, both crystallized and fluid intelligences are apparent in the real world and influence one another (they tend to correlate with one another too). Also, when you say penetrate things realize these are used in schools with sometimes two thousand kids and administration time is important.

Don't you know innuendos when you see them?

IQ tests are not required by schools [at least in the US(at least in California)], so allotted time isn't really an issue.

By penetrate, yes, I mean breaking down the problem, analyzing the parts and putting it back together through a new-found understanding. Being able to recognize patterns and situational logic isn't all there is to being intelligent, in fact, it's sophomoric if you ask me.

 

[The Gopher]

well my school did an IQ test of some sort and I was at 16 year old problem solving ability at 12 but then again we are INTP.

 

[Melllvar]

LOL, I took facepalm's test last night and got a good 2/3rds of a standard dev lower than I did on my last actual IQ test. Although I was tired late and night and had a borderline headache from programming all day long. I also straight up skipped 7 of the questions (did not guess) because I got tired of taking the test. Excuses excuses.

This is why I think these tests are immoral: all they can really do is make you feel bad about yourself for not doing well enough (which is what happened last night), or give you the impression that you're so smart you don't even have to work or try cause you can't help but be a genius. Either way, taking the tests is kind of a fun mental exercise, but there really isn't any point in scoring them. All they can do is hurt you, unless they maybe give you a small confidence boost or something like that.

 

[Glordag]

LOL, I took facepalm's test last night and got a good 2/3rds of a standard dev lower than I did on my last actual IQ test. Although I was tired late and night and had a borderline headache from programming all day long. I also straight up skipped 7 of the questions (did not guess) because I got tired of taking the test. Excuses excuses.

This is why I think these tests are immoral: all they can really do is make you feel bad about yourself for not doing well enough (which is what happened last night), or give you the impression that you're so smart you don't even have to work or try cause you can't help but be a genius. Either way, taking the tests is kind of a fun mental exercise, but there really isn't any point in scoring them. All they can do is hurt you, unless they maybe give you a small confidence boost or something like that.

Poor Melllvar is in denial about his brain rot. Tsk. Gets to the best of 'em...

 

[Joohanh]

Either way, taking the tests is kind of a fun mental exercise, but there really isn't any point in scoring them.

But what about feeling bad/superior for being unable/able to understand the questions in the first place? No scoring needed for that.
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I too think that IQ tests are somewhat invalid, as they always follow a pattern that someone has set. It's like playing those totally frustrating adventure games where you're just expected to figure out everything that's been created by the developer's own mind.

 

[ekh]

I'm 15 and get over 130 on most online IQ tests. I often just get bored with them and guess the last few, especially on the long ones!

 

[Satisfied Monkey]

I took the cerebral, and like with most other seemingly legit IQ tests, I thought I was doing awful while taking the test. It was taking me quite some time so I started skipping past questions to see how many I had left. Unfortunately it doesn't allow back tracking after skipping the last question and I skipped around 6 total. I'm not sure how it scores the omitted problems, but I still scored a 126. Close to what I usually score anyway.

While taking the test I sincerely felt I was doing horrible. Does anyone else feel the same even while scoring in the high 120s? I was almost never 100% sure of my answer. Maybe I'm just a really lucky test taker. I mean, 126 is not outstanding by any means, but I was still surprised I scored even that high.

 

[cerebedlam]

I have this theory that even 'intelligence' is dependent on a 'reciprocal causality' feedback loop...I've definitely increased my general and theoretical knowledge base immensely by the constant intake of information from varied sources...This, it seems, enables me to do pretty well on tests of intelligence...I took a standardized IQ test in Manhattan about a decade ago and clocked in at 142...Not bad...But, that tells me nothing about how I do comparatively, against peers, neighbors, friends, relatives...

I've taken a few of these online intelligence tests, alongside friends and neighbors...This one below here was issued to me by my friend's nephew...He took it first himself, gave it to his best chum, his parents, grandparents, and the couple next door...I doubled the best score on both parts 1 & 2...That tells me much more than the number - 142.

This particular test below is a good example of how general knowledge, and the ability to access that base of info - usually by detecting relationships and such, lead to the answer...So, a feedback loop is definitely in place...Part 1 should be easily maxed out by any self-respecting INTP...Part 2, a tad more difficult.

http://intelligence-test.net/part1/