INTP Dating

[Melllvar]

That was a better summary.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Yes yes Smeagle, as compelling a case for lesbianism as you present, I have to point out that very few females (and males) can be typecast into the narrow categories you outline. I feel I shouldn't have to point this out because it's frankly fucking obvious, but people are not defined by their sex. There are a limitless number of variables as to why people act the way they do and whether they pursue relationships that are shallow or deep, monogamous or polyamorous, heteronormative or not, etcetera.

Why do you enforce these gross generalizations and demeaning gender roles upon yourself and everyone else? Are you afraid that people are actually a bit more complicated and multidimensional than what Cosmo and Askmen purport?

 

[SpaceYeti]

Hahhahahahhaha. Fuck. This is dumb. I don't even wanna think about it anymore. Clearly men have different views about this topic than women. Yes, I am male... What is it like to be a girl? Wanting a compassionate long term relationship? I..... I can't understand or see sexual stuff from a female point of view.. It's impossible, so I have to ask girls and play games... Because this is the internet, I can say wutever I want. Cool.

What do girls want? I honestly font know. Usually really good at getting in peoples heads, until it comes to relationships. Why? It's like a dance. If males didn't have testosterone, would they be like girls? I am pumped full of testosterone. Why is this? This is proof that God exists. If nature alone created us wouldn't both male an female become sex addicts do we could reproduce more?

... Are you drunk?

 

[cheese]

It is interesting to note that the sectors of the society that are most prone to violence are the ones that are relatively uneducated.

Yep.

No. Half the people there that turned up were being introduced to everyone else.

Ok then. I had a thought about this but I've forgotten. It likely wouldn't have been particularly useful anyway.

More like an add for maccas. When someone wets their dry lips it is somewhat different than arousal.

Ok, then I find this unusual.

What made your position compromised?

it was compromised in my head because of possible misleading signals.

Women who believe the above have something wrong with them. It is not the normal expression of deductive reasoning. Perhaps, they have suffered abuse in the past, have been brained washed etc...

Perhaps.

Rrriiiggghhhtttt..... Please present your arguments and evidence for what you think. I don't think it is possible for women not to see men in a sexual light.

Sorry, I meant it's impossible for all sexual beings not to perceive each other in a sexual light. I mentioned only male-female because that had been the focus so far.

You misunderstand the nature of rape. Holding a the above perception is counter-productive.

I don't hold it. I don't have any great insight into rapists' mind either, so it's just a thought. What is "the nature of rape"? Is it universal? What is the basis for your opinions?

Errr, no.

Based on what?

I said 'entitlement' in relation to women. As an expression of hierarchy and dominance, this would also fuel male-male rape. It's entitlement regarding women because most women would be hierarchically below men in such a system.

Examples: war rape, inter-class rape, rape in countries where women are second-class citizens and/or considered as property (rape would be an insult to the owner), inter-year rape in boys' schools, incestuous rape to reinforce dominance, etc.

Women also rape men and other women to assert or reinforce dominance, I think more commonly in areas with clearly defined class systems; also occurs to achieve or demonstrate power over a peer.

Rape in these cases appears to be about asserting dominance, or reinforcing it. 'Entitlement' was simply a way of expressing the part of the hierarchy that has prevailed (and the attitudes that both caused and resulted from it) through most of recorded history, ie man-over-woman.

Interesting story:
I once lived very near a religious man with about 10 wives under religious law and about 40 kids (owned several houses). I found it strange but didn't pay too much attention to it. Years later he was convicted on multiple charges of rape and sexual abuse; apparently he'd been raping his daughters from about the onset of puberty in order to discourage them from dating and sullying their purity. IIRC he had discovered one of them with a boy and flown into a rage, then continued the practice with the others. The mothers aided in this. Went on for several years before one of the girls finally made it to the police.

I don't know what the real causes of this practice were - was he morally obligated by his religion, honestly trying to teach his daughters a lesson, or a pervert with a very good cover? He was a respected leader in his community and had many highly-educated followers. Honestly it sounded like a cult (and by that I mean a group set up around a doctrine designed and propagated in order to benefit the designers, where the followers are subjugated with or without their knowledge through misinformation, force, and sheer charisma). But maybe he genuinely believed in the things he taught and practised.

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Have you ever seen a male wearing skin tight shorts with his bulge obnoxiously showing?

Have you ever been around gays/looked at gay porn/seen the cover of a woman's magazine?

I saw a man prancing around in a Speedo the other day. I won't say where. But I have seen it often enough - no, not nearly as much as women, but some. Skinny jeans can be enough for the effect.

Besides, fashion for men at some point included skin-tight leggings and codpieces that accentuated the genitals and the musculature of the legs.

Additionally, there are other areas that are revealed or defined in men's clothing today (biceps, pecs, abs) that could be considered to women the equivalent of cleavage for men, especially considering most women actually don't wear pants tight enough to reveal the shape/line of their vulva (which would be the female equivalent of the 'obnoxious bulge'). Men do wear tight jeans that strongly suggest the shape of their butts - another potential area of interest.

I will concede that male bodies don't seem to be as often advertised as female bodies though, but I think this is changing.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

Fuck. I don't know. I feel weird as fuck tonight. Maybe my brain is releasing too much norepinephrine... Or I'm over tired.... Yup I'm tired, though I lay here in bed, fighting the insomnia that torments me every night. Hoo rah!

Hahahaa people aren't defined by their sex, that's a good one. They clearly are, more clearly than we are all intp's. We go alllll day living up to the social norms of gender society tells us to. We can't escape it. It's rediculous, but it's inevitable. I'll bring sex into it to explain it to u. Girls have sex with 10 different guys.... Dirty filing WHORE... Guys have sex with 1000 different girls.... damn, he's the fuckin man. Why aren't girls praised for having sex as guys are???? Gender based social norms.

 

[knightofni]

Dating is not easy for anyone. It presents an intriguing problem to solve, though. I tackled it by analyzing my own deficiencies, and then researching the most comfortable work-arounds.

It’s a whole lot easier to find effective ways to improve things like appearance and communication skills than to figure out what “women” or “men” want. I think a mission set out on such a generalized premise might be lost cause.

 

[Causeless]

*sigh*

I'm never going to find a mate.

 

[Melllvar]

I'm pretty sure "what [insert gender] wants" is a shorthand form of the larger idea "how can I make up for my lack what the majority of what the sex I'm attracted to finds desirable." (or something to that effect)

The problem is this is largely a game of numbers. You're pretty much screwed without the opportunity to mix with people who you find desirable. Even given that opportunity there is only a certain percentage who will find you desirable. Add onto that the "luck of the draw" type stuff, like meeting said person when they were in a sociable mood or interested in finding someone versus at another time.

Clearly certain decisions you make drastically affect the chances of your getting what you want in this regard (whatever that may be). Be too picky and your pool of options diminishes, be too independent and refusing of compromise the same thing happens, or if you just fail to socialize and interact with what's available.

As for gross stereotypes, there are two kinds: baseless ones and accurate generalizations. I think most some of what's been argued about here has been the legitimacy of various stereotypes. Such things are important to managing the probabilities in such a way that is least likely to leave you either a) lonely and miserable or b) stuck with someone and miserable.

They know what I mean.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

I said 'entitlement' in relation to women. As an expression of hierarchy and dominance, this would also fuel male-male rape. It's entitlement regarding women because most women would be hierarchically below men in such a system.

Examples: war rape, inter-class rape, rape in countries where women are second-class citizens and/or considered as property (rape would be an insult to the owner), inter-year rape in boys' schools, incestuous rape to reinforce dominance, etc.

Women also rape men and other women to assert or reinforce dominance, I think more commonly in areas with clearly defined class systems; also occurs to achieve or demonstrate power over a peer.

Rape in these cases appears to be about asserting dominance, or reinforcing it. 'Entitlement' was simply a way of expressing the part of the hierarchy that has prevailed (and the attitudes that both caused and resulted from it) through most of recorded history, ie man-over-woman.

Good argument.

I once lived very near a religious man with about 10 wives under religious law and about 40 kids (owned several houses). I found it strange but didn't pay too much attention to it. Years later he was convicted on multiple charges of rape and sexual abuse; apparently he'd been raping his daughters from about the onset of puberty in order to discourage them from dating and sullying their purity. IIRC he had discovered one of them with a boy and flown into a rage, then continued the practice with the others. The mothers aided in this. Went on for several years before one of the girls finally made it to the police.

I don't know what the real causes of this practice were - was he morally obligated by his religion, honestly trying to teach his daughters a lesson, or a pervert with a very good cover? He was a respected leader in his community and had many highly-educated followers. Honestly it sounded like a cult (and by that I mean a group set up around a doctrine designed and propagated in order to benefit the designers, where the followers are subjugated with or without their knowledge through misinformation, force, and sheer charisma). But maybe he genuinely believed in the things he taught and practised.

That is some messed up shit. Definitely characteristics found in the common person. The guy is psychotic. Though, in this scenario rape is only one property at play out of the numerous.

 

[SpaceYeti]

*sigh*

I'm never going to find a mate.

Aw, I'm sorry. I'm sure there's a girl out there for you. Odds are that, after five to fifteen years, both you and a woman you meet will have lowered their standards enough to accept each other's company because loneliness is slightly more disappointing.

 

[DarkGreen]

Okay, obviously being an INTP has nothing to do with your way of pursuing the opposite sex, INTP's may think more deeply on matters.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Saying that someone "thinks deeply" presumes the things they think about are somehow important. Yet, it's possible and likely for an INTP (in my case, anyhow) to simply over analyze. Which doesn't make it a bad thing, either, it's simply not good or important simply because you're thinking about it a lot.

 

[DarkGreen]

Exactly. Yeti summed it up nicely.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

My problem is that i see dating as pointlessunless you will get married. Thats why ive never had a gf. Why not just have sex with random girls until you find a girl that happens to be your best friend..i feel as if i will never come across such a being. I cant even find many male friends, the ones i do find are usually unique in some way like me. Not unique like social rebelious faggot, but unique in a good way. Thatll be hard to find. im so fucking picky.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

My problem is that i see dating as pointlessunless you will get married. Thats why ive never had a gf. Why not just have sex with random girls until you find a girl that happens to be your best friend..i feel as if i will never come across such a being. I cant even find many male friends, the ones i do find are usually unique in some way like me. Not unique like social rebelious faggot, but unique in a good way. Thatll be hard to find. im so fucking picky.

My good friend gave me some amusing advice when I was 14. Begin with low standards to build confidence. Once confident, implement more critical standards. Rinse and repeat.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

My good friend gave me some amusing advice when I was 14. Begin with low standards to build confidence. Once confident, implement more critical standards. Rinse and repeat.

Ya, i should go find myself some fat phillipeno naturist with no legs and no teeth, then fuck her brains out, and gain some confidence haa.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Ya, i should go find myself some fat phillipeno naturist with no legs and no teeth, then fuck her brains out, and gain some confidence haa.

I am mortified.

 

[Anthile]

Ya, i should go find myself some fat phillipeno naturist with no legs and no teeth, then fuck her brains out, and gain some confidence haa.

For crying out loud. Just... die already or something.

 

[Melllvar]

My good friend gave me some amusing advice when I was 14. Begin with low standards to build confidence. Once confident, implement more critical standards. Rinse and repeat.

We call that finding a "practice girl."

Ya, i should go find myself some fat phillipeno naturist with no legs and no teeth, then fuck her brains out, and gain some confidence haa.

There is a term for people who intentionally act stupid and annoying on the internet in order to provoke controversy: trolls.

Anyway, I'd like to clarify that I started this thread to make three statements:

1) I had been up all night drinking.
2) Questionable Content rocks.
3) Some people, certainly myself, and presumably people of the INTP personality type, may often over-think and over-complicate situations that are not well suited to a rational analysis.

It all seemed so harmless at the time.

Also, why the hell does no one care how Hannelore's date is going!?

 

[Pythia]

2) Questionable Content rocks.

I now know I'm not the only one here who reads it regularly.

Also, why the hell does no one care how Hannelore's date is going!?

I don't mean to be a pessimist, but something ugly will happen regarding Sven.. .

(QC is my substitute for soap operas, shame on me)

It all seemed so harmless at the time.

It always does.

 

[SpaceYeti]

My problem is that i see dating as pointlessunless you will get married. Thats why ive never had a gf. Why not just have sex with random girls until you find a girl that happens to be your best friend..i feel as if i will never come across such a being. I cant even find many male friends, the ones i do find are usually unique in some way like me. Not unique like social rebelious faggot, but unique in a good way. Thatll be hard to find. im so fucking picky.

Well, for starters, how about the potential for diseases and bastard children?'

And for seconders, you don't know who you're going to marry until you've been dating them. It's not like you meet at a bar, fuck, then realize she's your firggin' soul mate. I mean, sure, it could happen like that, but it's pretty friggin' rare. The point is, you don't date someone because you're going to marry them. You date someone because you like them. Dating could become marriage, perhaps.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

Well, for starters, how about the potential for diseases and bastard children?'

And for seconders, you don't know who you're going to marry until you've been dating them. It's not like you meet at a bar, fuck, then realize she's your firggin' soul mate. I mean, sure, it could happen like that, but it's pretty friggin' rare. The point is, you don't date someone because you're going to marry them. You date someone because you like them. Dating could become marriage, perhaps.

Ya, i never want kids...ever. Im a greedy bastard. I dont know if i want to get married. I want friends that are girls, but i really dont wanna get married. Maybe friends with benefits or somethin.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

We call that finding a "practice girl."



There is a term for people who intentionally act stupid and annoying on the internet in order to provoke controversy: trolls.

Anyway, I'd like to clarify that I started this thread to make three statements:

1) I had been up all night drinking.
2) Questionable Content rocks.
3) Some people, certainly myself, and presumably people of the INTP personality type, may often over-think and over-complicate situations that are not well suited to a rational analysis.

It all seemed so harmless at the time.

Also, why the hell does no one care how Hannelore's date is going!?

Me a troll? seriously? How does my post spark controversy? Do you want to question my fetish for legless phillipeno girls with no teeth or head hair?...i guess you can argue against that if you really want to.

Im just trolling this thread because you guys argue about the most rediculous things haha. At least spaceyeti's arguments are valid.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Ya, i never want kids...ever. Im a greedy bastard. I dont know if i want to get married. I want friends that are girls, but i really dont wanna get married. Maybe friends with benefits or somethin.

Good luck!

 

[Melllvar]

Well, I don't mean to start name calling and offend you, it's just hard for me to imagine you're actually serious about even half the stuff you're saying.

But I often underestimate people...

@Pythia:
I actually started liking it for similar reasons, but I've only been following it a few months. Based on how things were going I figured she might end up with a crush on him or something weird like that. But I still feel like I don't know the characters very well at this point.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

My good friend gave me some amusing advice when I was 14. Begin with low standards to build confidence. Once confident, implement more critical standards. Rinse and repeat.

I fully understand the logic behind this, but my standards are so high(I accept people for who they are, but I have to admit I'm a little repulsed by the human body in all it's imperfection)...plus I'm not really a "play the field" kind of guy, I am big on loyalty. If I even am able to get into a relationship, I'll get comfortable, if not repelled at first. Then I will not want to break off the relationship for fear of having to deal with emotional problems and the whole process of getting back into another relationship.

Because of this I am really concerned about the future of my singleness.

BTW, it's settled, DesertSmeagle is INFP.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

I fully understand the logic behind this, but my standards are so high(I accept people for who they are, but I have to admit I'm a little repulsed by the human body in all it's imperfection)...plus I'm not really a "play the field" kind of guy, I am big on loyalty. If I even am able to get into a relationship, I'll get comfortable, if not repelled at first. Then I will not want to break off the relationship for fear of having to deal with emotional problems and the whole process of getting back into another relationship.

Because of this I am really concerned about the future of my singleness.

BTW, it's settled, DesertSmeagle is INFP.

People and their standards are somewhat interesting. They define a standard and conform rigorously to it. Ten years later they are lonely bastards. I guess if a person is not bothered by being lonely it is not a problem.

The best way to form a decent relationship with someone is to just go with the flow, no goals in mind and disregard strict criteria. If you are attracted to a person, you are attracted to person. If you are not, your not. Visa versa. All is right with the world. This leads to the formation of some interesting friendships and removes stress from life.

I can understand being repulsed by people. There are two things that repulse me. One is revolves around behaviour and the manner in which people conduct themselves. The second is fat rolls on a person's back.

Breaking things off with people or turning them down is something that is a necessary pain in the ass. Some general advice: Never belittle someone for approaching you.

 

[SpaceYeti]

You know, that's generally good advice. However, I can't claim you should ditch all[/] of your standards. Only ditch the superfluous ones. There are certain things that, without, I'm not happy in a relationship. So, if I can't get those things, I don't bother with the relationship.

I find a lot of people claim they have certain standards, but they're merely things they'd like. They aren't essential. Your standards should be what you actually need as part of a relationship, in order for the relationship to work at all, not minor facets of taste.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I don't set out to enforce my standards, I don't automatically refuse someone because of their apparent personality and/or psychical features. It's just I'm so mental and far removed from actuality that I am uncomfortable with physical contact, and so my mind makes up for that by accepting only the perfect woman.

Of course, that's just what I think, I'm too theoretical for my own good. Luckily, I've had experience to know that I really don't mind some features (or lack thereof) on a woman. Once I get used to her it's not an issue, but how do you get used to a person you're trying to hit on? That's my problem.

 

[JimHawkins]

BTW, it's settled, DesertSmeagle is INFP.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

Hmmm INFP? maybe. Based on what? What do i do that reminds you of INFP? Im curious? Can an INFP be smart and logical and even thinking? I find myself lost in thought alot, though i guess i could see myself as INFP? I have characteristics of each personality..am i an INxP? I think i might be.

Is the girl in the clip above me watching porn?

 

[SpaceYeti]

Looks like she got goatsed.

Also, feelers still think, they're simply more inclined to go with their gut and intuition than rational thought. But that doesn't mean they can't think rationally or deeply, either.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Hmmm INFP? maybe. Based on what? What do i do that reminds you of INFP? Im curious? Can an INFP be smart and logical and even thinking? I find myself lost in thought alot, though i guess i could see myself as INFP? I have characteristics of each personality..am i an INxP? I think i might be.

Is the girl in the clip above me watching porn?

Many of your posts are subjective and just bleed emotion. There are also a lot of "stupid"s "hate"s and "fuck"s which I don't think is abundant in the Ti-Ne vocabulary. That is, unless we're talking about SJs .

Girls have sex with 10 different guys.... Dirty filing WHORE... Guys have sex with 1000 different girls.... damn, he's the fuckin man. Why aren't girls praised for having sex as guys are???? Gender based social norms.

Some people call this a double standard. I don't. Women just don't understand that a guy has to jump through hoops to play a female into having sex with him. A girl on the other hand just has to take off her clothes and a million men will come rushing. It's not that hard for women to get guys to have sex with them, the lack of difficulty prevents them from getting praise. You wouldn't call someone the Master of gaming for beating a 5 year old kid in Call of Duty now would you? But you'd call the 5 year old kid amazing for beating an older experienced player.

 

[Fukyo]

Some people call this a double standard. I don't. Women just don't understand that a guy has to jump through hoops to play a female into having sex with him. A girl on the other hand just has to take off her clothes and a million men will come rushing.

wat

 

[DesertSmeagle]

hhahaha your right. I do use to many shitty words haha. I dont know why though, probably because i talk like that on world of warcraft. People get so pissed haha. I gotta work on that though.

And ya, i dont know why i never thought of that. Guys have to "acheive" sex with a girl he likes. Girls can just walk up to random guys and say "hey lets get it on" and he will.

 

[Cavallier]

Talking like you're on WoW here will get you banned eventually. I think that the fact you are still here is proof that the Admins are lenient. This is a forum for the discussion of ideas not mental diarrhea unless you are Noddy/Inappropriate Behavior and you've proven your merit. Sure, humor is appreciated. But your constant face-palm comments and lack of respect for the discussion at hand is irritating and frankly the admins can only stand irritation for so long. Plus spamming your videos is getting old. What do you care about page views anyway?

 

[SpaceYeti]

Lack of respect? It's just some "foul language", it's not disrespect. It's not like he's saying "Fuck this fucking shitty discussion!", he's simply typing the way he's used to. They're just words. If you're going to get irritated, get irritated at his horrible grammar, spelling, and punctuation.

 

[Cavallier]

As usual you've misunderstood what I was saying. Indeed, if he had said, "fuck this fucking shitty discussion" he would have added more to the discussion than he has with his actual comments. At what point did you think I was referring to profanity? Did you assume my female sensibilities were offended? lol

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Emulating the spirit of what I heard the intjs do to their own kind, bring forth the ban hammer!

Edit: Ohh? Someone got banned. Yikes. I was only attempting humour.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

wat

Just trying to prove a point. I don't believe in using humans as a means to an end.

 

[echoplex]

I'm pretty sure "what [insert gender] wants" is a shorthand form of the larger idea "how can I make up for my lack what the majority of what the sex I'm attracted to finds desirable." (or something to that effect)

The problem is this is largely a game of numbers. You're pretty much screwed without the opportunity to mix with people who you find desirable. Even given that opportunity there is only a certain percentage who will find you desirable. Add onto that the "luck of the draw" type stuff, like meeting said person when they were in a sociable mood or interested in finding someone versus at another time.

Clearly certain decisions you make drastically affect the chances of your getting what you want in this regard (whatever that may be). Be too picky and your pool of options diminishes, be too independent and refusing of compromise the same thing happens, or if you just fail to socialize and interact with what's available.

As for gross stereotypes, there are two kinds: baseless ones and accurate generalizations. I think most some of what's been argued about here has been the legitimacy of various stereotypes. Such things are important to managing the probabilities in such a way that is least likely to leave you either a) lonely and miserable or b) stuck with someone and miserable.

^ I hope this post wasn't ignored amongst all the muck. I think this sort of echoes something I was thinking/trying to say previously.

I think we can all agree there are enough misconceptions about men/women/etc. to fill a 1,000 page thread on the topic. But where do these misconceptions come from? I think, if I'm being generous, that they often come from simple insecurity. No one wants to believe bullshit about the opposite sex, but then, no one wants to be a 'lonely bastard' either, as Proxy eloquently put.

And strangely enough, it seems the 'bullshit' often 'works', insofar as it puts people into a mindset that either a.) increases their social confidence in regards to the opp. sex, or b.) actually makes them appealing to a larger group of people, thus increasing opportunities. The reality is that no matter how 'perfect' someone may be for you, it's never going to happen if you can't attract them. That's what the insecurity is about, which leads to a willingness to believe something just because a successful person believes it. The idea being: If women love this guy, then maybe his method/worldview/lifestyle/whatever will help me ensure I won't miss out on that rare ms. right when/if she comes along. Of course, none of that ensures you'd even attract your 'type', but it's a risk worth taking to some people.

I think the trap men tend to fall into (though no doubt women do this too) is that it's tempting for them to want to come up with a grand unifying theory of woman. That is, a method that can ensure that, no matter who she is, she'll be more likely to find you attractive than otherwise. The irony, of course, is that such thinking can be counterintuitive and cause you to attract ms. wrong(s). This thinking is something to be overcome, surely.

My point, I guess, is that it's a difficult tendency to overcome, and for guys, it's especially so due to the way we're typically cast as the ones who must do the 'winning' in terms of relationships. If you feel you're expected to make things happen then you're going to likely end up grasping for whatever roadmap others have found success with -- at least until you've gained confidence in your own.

And this is why I'd like to see more females in this thread, because it's likely, due in part to societal factors, that their perspectives will be at least somewhat different from that of most males. This would help to counter the misconceptions of males with the misconceptions of females (heh, everyone's got some), and might even help turn discussion away from the same tired pattern typical of these threads and toward something closer to understanding.

Or it might even accomplish absolutely nothing. I dunno.

(stupid question prolly, but: why was Smeagle banned? )

 

[₲uardian]

Can't I have a sex buddy who's also an unwaveringly loyal friend and teammate?

Why not first work on getting a sex buddy, or are you setting yourself up for failure with you weirdo prerequisites?

 

[₲uardian]

Just trying to prove a point. I don't believe in using humans as a means to an end.

"Use" has negative connotation where the target of use is being "used" with no regard to his well being.

I think people use each other whether or not conscious (usually not) of doing so.

Merely being human requires goals directly or indirectly related to survival. "Using" is just inevitable. If you don't see it that way, you're wrong, but probably a mentally healthy (more so than those otherwise) individual.

 

[SpaceYeti]

As usual you've misunderstood what I was saying. Indeed, if he had said, "fuck this fucking shitty discussion" he would have added more to the discussion than he has with his actual comments. At what point did you think I was referring to profanity? Did you assume my female sensibilities were offended? lol

As usual, you've missed my point. You were just being a jerk to someone you don't like. Don't like him, leave him alone. To even suggest he should be censored for the stuff he says is ludicrous. His worst offense is his swearing, which you just said is not a problem. His comments are not offensive unless you like being offended.

 

[Melllvar]

I'm pretty sure those weren't real arguments (in that he didn't actually believe what he said). To put it rather critically, being stupid or annoying in a discussion is one thing, doing it intentionally for personal amusement is another.

1) Accused of reposting irrelevant videos - Answer: To get more views
2) Accused of trolling - Answer: The discussion was "rediculous" anyway.
3) Accused of over-use of profanity murdering the English language - Answer: Thaz how we roll in WoW.

I'm not even taking everything he said out of context or oversimplifying and misrepresenting his arguments (*cough*), those were his actual answers. Hard to imagine he didn't see it coming. I'm still a little curious exactly which straw broke the camel's back though.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

"Use" has negative connotation where the target of use is being "used" with no regard to his well being.

I think people use each other whether or not conscious (usually not) of doing so.

Merely being human requires goals directly or indirectly related to survival. "Using" is just inevitable. If you don't see it that way, you're wrong, but probably a mentally healthy (more so than those otherwise) individual.

Yes, of course, the difference being mutual understanding that the person is going to be used because then they become part of the end. e.g. prostitution, hanging out when you're lonely. Using other people strictly as a means in things such as borrowing an item or needing connections in high places, I'd rather not do. If I must in order to survive, to keep my home, wealth and health, then of course I will likely have to step on some toes.

 

[Cavallier]

As usual, you've missed my point. You were just being a jerk to someone you don't like. Don't like him, leave him alone. To even suggest he should be censored for the stuff he says is ludicrous. His worst offense is his swearing, which you just said is not a problem. His comments are not offensive unless you like being offended.

Ah. How silly of me to assume that when you quoted my words "lack of respect" you were actually referencing what I was saying. Obviously you meant some other member because the point you made had nothing to do with my original comment.

Also, as imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I shall choose to take your mimicry of my comment as it is obviously meant. Thank you.

@Melllvar: I will no longer derail your thread. I apologize for my transgression.

 

[Fukyo]

Just trying to prove a point. I don't believe in using humans as a means to an end.

I don't believe in it not being a double standard.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I don't believe in it not being a double standard.

Oh, well I say that because usually a double standard is when there is no good reason for having a different set of principles or rules for two parties. However, in the matter of women losing their dignity for engaging in sexual freedom, there is an indisputable occurring difference between men and women. Women do not have to work as hard to acquire sex, because men tend to be more willing. In contrast, men have a hard time because women are more restrictive in their sexual encounters. Therefore a double standard does not exist, if the difficulty in having sex was universally equal for both genders and women were still deemed "sluts", then you would be able to claim a double standard.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Ah. How silly of me to assume that when you quoted my words "lack of respect" you were actually referencing what I was saying. Obviously you meant some other member because the point you made had nothing to do with my original comment.

Also, as imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I shall choose to take your mimicry of my comment as it is obviously meant. Thank you.

@Melllvar: I will no longer derail your thread. I apologize for my transgression.

I find that people generally agree they made a mistake when you explain the mistake to them. So far, you've not shown me exactly how I mistook what you said or provided reasons to think I'm wrong if I did get it. If I don't understand you, how about saying something to me so that I then do, instead of not? Your current manner doesn't do you justice if your points are valid. Instead, you come off as uppity and bitchy. Then, perhaps you actually are those things. I couldn't really say which it is.