I feel stupid here

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

I feel like a stupid simpleton here, but among "normal" people I feel like I am 1000's of levels beyond them. Crazy

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

I did too when I first came here and for a while left for a few months. I came back because I missed the perspectives that helped me learn on a deeper level than I could do on my own. The more I learned from the others, the better I got at articulating my thoughts. I still have a long way to go as is often most obvious.

 

[Morel Panic]

I feel like a stupid simpleton here, but among "normal" people I feel like I am 1000's of levels beyond them. Crazy

Stupid: not really
Simple: maybe

Usually, the biggest things that separate people in the discussions I've seen are age and education more than intellegence.

Maybe you mean you sometimes feel like a clueless n00b (I know I do...)

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

I don't mind feeling stupid once in awhile, its a real rarity for me, usually requires mass amounts of alcohol..

 

[Beat Mango]

I feel smart here. As for among normalites, well, Nietzsche apparently said, "the gap between me and a regular human is larger than the difference between a regular human and a dog".

But really, I'm not that arrogant, once you get to know me...

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

at least I'm not a stupid teenager anymore........I get to be a stupid 20something now

 

[flow]

I find myself having post-regret a large majority of the time. This is probably why I've managed to only rack up 487ish posts in over a year of checking the site everyday. I find that I feel a lot smarter by reading threads and opting NOT to contribute, as my contribution will only inevitably be regretted.. mostly because I'm such an ass about things, I feel like I have zero tact when I disagree with people on here. I wish I had the grace of my ENFP friends who disagree so lovingly.

 

[Android]

I wouldn't say I feel stupid, but I do have a lot of post regret. Especially when I'm high or drunk.. but that's usual.

 

[flow]

Haha, I actually enjoy my high posts more! I usually come up with my best thread ideas when I'm high.. I feel like I just word things more cleverly/spiritedly than I normally would. My drunk posts should all be destroyed.

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

I have post regret more when I am sober, haven't been high since I joined so I'm not sure how that will be when I am finally able to go back. My typing accuracy is worse now that I'm not smoking. Speed is the same either way, not counting going back to change inaccuracies. I probably edit my posts an average of 3-5 times per post. One of the signs I know I'm INTP

 

[Wisp]

I felt dumb at first. I feel comfortable now. But then again, this place has been my home since January '08. I'm coming up on my second year. I have become acclimated to this place, and it has defined me, no matter what I may do henceforth. My post regret is low, coincidentally. The only posts I regret were those made a long time ago. I have changed a lot since I joined.

 

[Agent Intellect]

The best thing to do is, when posting, instead of making positive statements (ie "this is how things are" or "this is what I think") try asking questions (Socratic method) and getting involved in debates. Also, if you think that something being discussed is interesting but over your head, use it as a catalyst for further learning and go read up on the subject at hand (wikipedia is a good starting point, but i wouldn't rely on it for a complete education). I know for myself, one thing this site has helped me with is to broaden my horizons - I've probably read orders of magnitude more non-fiction books of many varying topics in the last six months to a year then I have the first twenty three years of my life (it's become almost an addiction).

 

[walfin]

How come you all seem to know so many stupid people in real life (stupid to you, at least)?

 

[Weliddryn]

hah, same feeling. All of the time. And any response I recieve I feel is criticism, etc.
Very negative person, but I soldier through it to grow.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

I don't feel stupid here, at least not anymore. I just feel like I don't have anything to add to most conversations. And even now, I considered scrapping this post while writing it because I offered nothing but my own feelings on the topic, because this post contains seemingly nothing of relevance or interest.

 

[Decaf]

I've definitely scrapped more posts than I've written. If you include paragraphs I scrap in the posts that make the cut, I'd say 80-85% of what I type here doesn't get posted. Even then, I've come to regret some of that 15-20% leftover. Times when I take a stand on something I really don't know enough about. When my sarcasm carries too little humor and just reads as mean. That's why I so often avoid the zingers and whatnot.

I think we feel smart around other types because so much of our thoughts remain a mystery to them. We can still feel stupid with them when we try to do things that we aren't as comfortable with, but here our thoughts are easily pierced. Here we are vulnerable even when we're sticking with our strengths.

The only people I ever label as stupid are those whose minds are made up and unchangeable. That seems like such a foolish position to take on any subject that I can not respect the person. If you're not doing that, chances are if you're not coming across as particularly brilliant, you're at least coming across as earnest. <Insert cliche wisdom quotes>

 

[Waterstiller]

Feelings of stupidity might be remedied by listening more than speaking.

 

[Anthile]

I think the term stupid is thrown around too lightly nowadays. Everyone here has something to offer - a unique perspective built on a unique life. We don't think all the same way, we have different opinions, beliefs and world views. I wouldn't dare to call one of these stupid although I might disagree with them.

Personally, I rather use "stupid" for actions than for people, but that's just me.

 

[Firehazard159]

Heh. I have no real contribution other than to say, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way, and thanks to everyone who's posted wise comments reinforcing those of us with low self-esteem.

I will inevitably mostly only post my own experience and ask questions, until I feel more comfortable contributing thoughts overall. I've always been a lurker in most situations, and will continue to be mostly here :P

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

It seems one thing we all have in common is a touch of fear and a groping of doubt. I do my best to put that aside and just say what I want. Sure, I've made posts that came off poorly but I can learn from my mistakes. I don't lurk that much when I'm here except on "bad days" when I'm pretty much useless all around. Most posts here can be debated by another but if you can learn to put the fear of being wrong or corrected aside, you might get more out of being here. I believe I do.

 

[echoplex]

I use words like 'perhaps' and 'maybe' alot when I post. I view most of my posts as just me throwing out suggestions. Sometimes these suggestions will feel more like a hunch, or even a tentatively held belief, but they're usually just my way of saying 'hey, here's another way of looking at this.'

And then, of course, I get ninja'd. lol

But yeah, I feel totally stupid, but I rarely feel thoughtless or rigid, and that's more important to me. In irl I'm usually the "idea guy" who offers a multitude of perspectives and then waits for someone to say something that interests me. I tend to approach this forum the same way. (come to think of it, this seems kinda ENTP. Definitely very Ne-ish.)

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

same here. I just like to throw ideas out there most of the time. I can articulate ok but nowhere near the level of a lot of posters here. I do listen but as of lately I have a lot to say, highly unusual for me.

 

[RubberDucky451]

I'm interested in the topics yet i really don't know much about them. I have a thirst to learn almost everything band,theory,machine out there, it's almost disheartening.

Like wisp, I hope I can look back and see that I've grown. All i really need to do it listen to apply. That sounded cheesy.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

oh, exactly the same here. i am definitely one of the dumbest

i still don't dare post in a serious thread

 

[Beat Mango]

You know that Simpsons episode where Homer becomes really intelligent, alienates himself as a result, and sticks a crayon back in his head in order to become blissfully stupid again? That's my favourite Simpsons episode. I really believe that the only way to be happy is to be naive.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

You know that Simpsons episode where Homer becomes really intelligent, alienates himself as a result, and sticks a crayon back in his head in order to become blissfully stupid again? That's my favourite Simpsons episode. I really believe that the only way to be happy is to be naive.

I grew up watching Simpsons and even as a kid I could always relate to that episode. But now, I've come to see that contrary to what society wants you to think, happiness is not the only virtue in life and possibly not even the most important one.

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

ignorance is bliss but ignorant solutions to problems rarely lead to happiness.

 

[LucasM]

I'm stupid for inventing you all in my twisted little universe.
But, really, a lot goes on here, and a lot flies by, and a lot I miss. I can only focus on so much!
(ps. I'm happy )
This is one of the top places I've ever found online. It is not a sanctuary. It is a jungle! It can overwhelm you! And then you can feel all logical or you can feel all emotional overwhelmed by all the candidness and analyticalness. But then you discover a big blue bird and realize you are KING over what you want to do and partake in, and you fly off away in your own little journey.

At least, that is how it seems here to be to me.

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

ahh, the bluebird of happiness a king among birds and men

 

[Ermine]

I felt dumb at first. I feel comfortable now. But then again, this place has been my home since January '08. I'm coming up on my second year. I have become acclimated to this place, and it has defined me, no matter what I may do henceforth. My post regret is low, coincidentally. The only posts I regret were those made a long time ago. I have changed a lot since I joined.

Me too. I've been here since December '07, and could see myself staying here infinitely unless I drop off the map or get unbelievably busy with other things. I definitely believe I belong here, and this place has shaped me and my thought processes. I still have my moments here when I'm overwhelmed by others' intelligence and expertise, but it doesn't make me as insecure now that I think about it as a way to learn rather than a way to feel sorry for myself. I'm really just surprised how flexible this forum is despite the huge range of ages, from 14 to 50 something. Despite our different knowledge levels, we are still on the same page for the most part.

So far as post regret goes, I only really regret posts where I neglect to think of the possibilities and do something closed minded or naive.

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

I don't feel sorry for myself or insecure(as far as my intellect goes) Its just strange to be among the middle/low-end of the spectrum for once. I'd rather be stupid here than a genius among idiots.

 

[Melkor]

Well, thats because you are stupid.

Case solved.

NEXT!


On a less serious note.

I know exactly how you feel

It seems as though everyone here has reached a level of mental development that I haven't, and possibly won't even manage to muster.

AND I DO FEEL SORRY FOR MYSELF AND I AM INSECURE AND can I have a hug?

 

[loveofreason]

Hugs are only for people with a note from their doctor reporting that they must be hugged or else they'll die.

 

[Melkor]

-Raises a hand-

I have a note from Doctor.

He said not to open it, and I tried but there were too many staples and they were sharp and now it's all covered in red stuff ma'am.

-Hands note over-

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

MEL-FUCKING-KOR!

 

[Melkor]

0-0


I feel tempted to dish out some dark wrath, but in this case...I think....I'll just...

RUN!

 

[loveofreason]

-Raises a hand-

I have a note from Doctor.

He said not to open it, and I tried but there were too many staples and they were sharp and now it's all covered in red stuff ma'am.

-Hands note over-

...mmm...

*sniffs note*

I'll lick the blood off while SoTH humps hugs you!!!

 

[Melkor]

-Jumps out nearby window-

Is this technically on topic?

We're making Ninja feel stupid...right?

Or are we making him feel smarter by being stupid?

 

[loveofreason]

We're making it evident that intelligence does not preclude stupidity.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Hugs are only for people with a note from their doctor reporting that they must be hugged or else they'll die.

Of course nobody takes that option, not when you can pick the happy pills

 

[Wisp]

Me too. I've been here since December '07, and could see myself staying here infinitely unless I drop off the map or get unbelievably busy with other things. I definitely believe I belong here, and this place has shaped me and my thought processes. I still have my moments here when I'm overwhelmed by others' intelligence and expertise, but it doesn't make me as insecure now that I think about it as a way to learn rather than a way to feel sorry for myself. I'm really just surprised how flexible this forum is despite the huge range of ages, from 14 to 50 something. Despite our different knowledge levels, we are still on the same page for the most part.

So far as post regret goes, I only really regret posts where I neglect to think of the possibilities and do something closed minded or naive.

Haha, my thoughts exactly, Ermine. Which leads me to an interesting observation. Does the forum draw us all slowly into a common point of cognition? Is the forum really a factory for churning out certain types of individuals? What sort of individual would that be? Is it a good thing? Am I off my rocker?

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Does the forum draw us all slowly into a common point of cognition?

*shifty eyes*

 

[Melkor]

So.


We're all being drawn towards Cognisant?

Oh baby...

I'm finding it hard resist

 

[loveofreason]

My god... I'm a sucker for the point of Cognition.

 

[Beat Mango]

Haha, my thoughts exactly, Ermine. Which leads me to an interesting observation. Does the forum draw us all slowly into a common point of cognition? Is the forum really a factory for churning out certain types of individuals? What sort of individual would that be? Is it a good thing? Am I off my rocker?

I think this particular forum's tendency towards dark thoughts and energies does sustain itself, yes. It can become a bit of a whinge-fest at times (which I'm sure is normal for INTPs in current society to an extent, but seems to be exaggerated a little on this forum). That's one of the reasons I changed to woodchopper display settings, it's a bit more cheery.

 

[Melkor]

The mango man makes no sense.

I say we chop him up for firewood and boil his flesh in a kettle.

YAY!

 

[Ermine]

Haha, my thoughts exactly, Ermine. Which leads me to an interesting observation. Does the forum draw us all slowly into a common point of cognition? Is the forum really a factory for churning out certain types of individuals? What sort of individual would that be? Is it a good thing? Am I off my rocker?

Well, with the huge concentration of INTPs, it's almost inevitable that we all accentuate our INTPness. Not a factory, just a cohesive group.

However, there are also enough borderline or non-INTPs that there's still ample encouragement to be whoever you are here.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Except an ESTJ

 

[snowqueen]

I just wanted to post so our avatars could be next to each other.

mmm ... sexy

 

[INTPINFP]

I feel like a stupid simpleton here, but among "normal" people I feel like I am 1000's of levels beyond them. Crazy

same here but, i cant help but click on every topic I see on this forum, It all feels so compelling