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Tyria

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Face is...

...a big meanie. She made me spill diet tea all over my keyboard and now the colors don't look right. Be careful, she is an enemy to all technology and will steal your heart if she can!!
 

Weliddryn

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Re: Face is...

A fox and chickens........
 

Toad

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diet tea? Didn't know tea was so fattening...
 

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Re: Face is...

Yep *Proceeds with putting a noose around face's neck*

Oh it's okay, I'm an INTP.
 

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Re: Face is...

face Ive just clicked your profile and i'm seeing a 12 year old bandy legged girl?

Firstly if this is you I will not be able to read a single one of your post with any sincerity (no offence meant, maybe just a bit of patronizing).

And if it isnt you then what on earth are you doing pretending to be a prepubesent kid, change that picture now!
 

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Re: Face is...

If you read some of Face's more serious posts you will realise her picture is irrelevant.
 

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Re: Face is...

If you read some of Face's more serious posts you will realise her picture is irrelevant.
No I havent read her posts but i have experience and wisdom far more than any 12 year old could possibly. If perhaps I had a troublesome daughter and wanted help in being 'in touch' with todays youth then maybe.

Im not in anyway saying disregard face as I'm sure she is a very intelligent young girl and her voice perhaps resonates more with our younger forumites, stilll at school then she could possibly be more intelligent than me, but i gave up my intelligence a long time ago in exchange for wisdom as thats what really helps / matters (to me at least).

I apologise to our younger posters in advance and am ready for the barrage of attacks you may think i so rightly deserve... but what the hell!
 

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Re: Face is...

No I havent read her posts but i have experience and wisdom far more than any 12 year old could possibly. If perhaps I had a troublesome daughter and wanted help in being 'in touch' with todays youth then maybe.

Im not in anyway saying disregard face as I'm sure she is a very intelligent young girl and her voice perhaps resonates more with our younger forumites, stilll at school then she could possibly be more intelligent than me, but i gave up my intelligence a long time ago in exchange for wisdom as thats what really helps / matters (to me at least).

I apologise to our younger posters in advance and am ready for the barrage of attacks you may think i so rightly deserve... but what the hell!
If you were so wise, you wouldn't let a (most probably fake) picture color your perceptions of a forum member.

And why not pretend to be a 12 year old?
 

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Re: Face is...

If you were so wise, you wouldn't let a (most probably fake) picture color your perceptions of a forum member.
On to the other point, in general what springs to your mind when you think of an adult impersonating a young girl and their intentions...

And its because im wise that I will only ever read the writings of the young as entertainment.
 

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Re: Face is...

thebarran:
I suggested you read her posts as hopefully that would make it clear she is no 12 year old.

It's interesting that you know nothing about someone and choose to judge them on a single photograph, and on that basis resolve to ignore any possible merit in their posts. Using your reasoning you should judge the validity of the picture based on the posts. Instead you do the opposite.

*edit
Shit. Ok I meant that the posts are not typical of a 12 year old, and that therefore her picture would be irrelevant. Posts should be judged on their own merit, instead of going in with a closed mind based on possibly misleading information. There, nice and clear now.
 

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Re: Face is...

I don't think it's off of barran at all. What would Zarathrustra say:

[Hunchback]: "But why doth Zarathustra speak otherwise unto us than unto his disciples?"

Zarathustra answered: "What is there to be wondered at! With hunchbacks one May well speak in a hunchbacked way!"
 

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?
 
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I'm truly 83 years old. Therefore, all of your posts are irrelevant to me, for you are all likely younger. I cannot truly believe that anyone under the age of 60 has ever done or said anything of significance. It's because I'm wise that I'll never read people's work seriously. Your age invalidates your words, not your content or intelligence.


Anyway, I must express that your post is narrow minded for three reasons:

1 - You are assuming wisdom is not dependent on intelligence.
2 - You think all people of a higher age will have more relevant content to share.
3 - You dismiss people for their age or appearance, which should be irrelevant when they are beneficial to thought.

Wisdom is essentially knowledge, but knowledge needs intelligence to be utilized appropriately. I've met very irrational, illogical adults and regarded them as 'rash' instead of 'wise'. Personally, I think it was their intelligence hindering the 'wisdom' they have acquired. Maybe they lacked the temperament to truly be capable of taking a path which provided the essential experience for high 'wisdom'.

Intelligence and wisdom are related, and they are certainly beneficial to each other. However, intelligence does not require wisdom to function. The capabilities of the intelligence will be supported when the person has wisdom, but it does not require a high amount of wisdom to produce material. Intelligence will not be fully impaired when the individual has little wisdom.

If it is correct that intelligent people are capable of producing material without high wisdom, why are you indicating that you dismiss people based on the possible fact they lack wisdom? You are basically stating that you are secluding yourself from potential knowledge. Wisdom and intelligence both provide original contributions, and it is foolish to deem any new material as irrelevant for the reason behind it being generated. For example, I might contempt a person who produced an ingenious piece of work, but this will not lead me to neglect their work. Their work is relevant to my mind, not them as an individual.

PS: Newton and Einstein were secretly over 90. They knew of time travel and how to remain beautiful. I also lost a game of chess to a 11 year old, but the game did not count due to their age.
 

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Re: AllKnowingCow! I'm calling you out!

We've been getting a lot of spam threads lately lol
 

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That's okay, because most of you guys are irrelevant anyways, regardless of your age. Those of you who are british. British people cannot say or do anything of significance. Newton and Darwin were secretly American.
 

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barran
1) You are assuming a one-one correlation between age and wisdom - this is not empirically supported

2) In dismissing intelligence you dismiss possible additional wisdom. Face addressed this point. Perhaps you could gain more insights through sincere consideration of a post, instead of dismissing it as entertainment. They may not be wise but you could be wiser for their knowledge.

3) You trust a picture more than your own brain? You should use your intellect to determine how likely it is that the picture is genuine, given your assumption.
 
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3) You trust a picture more than your own brain? You should use your intellect to determine how likely it is that the picture is genuine, given your assumption.
Maybe his brain is poor and it led to this conclusion.
 

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Re: Face is...

I gave up my trousers and lost my life.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1691888
 

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Re: Face is...

I gave up trying to understand Face and just decided to file her under 'expended peoples of little or no use, save for secret schemas'
 

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Re: Face is...

You loved me? Ha.. that means you had nothing left to use!
 

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Re: Face is...

You gave up whoring and lost us all.
 

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Re: Face is...

My check bounced and my ass was escorted from the bank.

It was humiliating.
 

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Sadness is an inherent trait in human beings, it's the way God fucks with us.
 

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Re: Pikachu! I'm calling you out!

I've once considered that god was a sick twisted bastard who thoroughly enjoyed finding ways to torment people by being nice, whilst his opponent tried to achieve the opposite via malevolent means.

I couldn't figure out if I felt hated or admiration, it was a unique feeling.
 

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Re: Pikachu! I'm calling you out!

Pfft. I choose a level 100 Onix called Rocky that crushes your pathetic rat!
 

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Re: Face is...

@face: Oh you go girl, you make some nice valid points, and once again I stress that I do not question your intelligence and I'll give you the fact that its possible for me to learn from you on a subject you have some knowledge of but overall in general posts your words will still be of a child who has lived 1/3 my life.

To a degree I am ageist but this is founded. I was intelligent, massive IQ, capable of all and could do no wrong or at least thought that at the time but looking back I knew nothing but knowledge. If I were to go on Univerisity Challenge or some sort of quiz show I would fail big time against you younger. If I were to play a computer game against a child I would probably get beat easily so I am not stipulating the youth are useless just not as wise as they think.

and finally: I gave up paint to be a plumber
 
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@face: Oh you go girl, you make some nice valid points, and once again I stress that I do not question your intelligence and I'll give you the fact that its possible for me to learn from you on a subject you have some knowledge of but overall in general posts your words will still be of a child who has lived 1/3 my life.

To a degree I am ageist but this is founded. I was intelligent, massive IQ, capable of all and could do no wrong or at least thought that at the time but looking back I knew nothing but knowledge. If I were to go on Univerisity Challenge or some sort of quiz show I would fail big time against you younger. If I were to play a computer game against a child I would probably get beat easily so I am not stipulating the youth are useless just not as wise as they think.

and finally: I gave up paint to be a plumber
Is it not possible for someone to learn about certain experiences acquired through 'wisdom' via reasoning or reading? In essence, wisdom seems to be knowledge, and knowledge should certainly be available for a person of average intellect at any age above 12.

I can accept that someone of 30+ years old will have had longer to accumulate knowledge, but I disagree that the value of this obtained knowledge should be ascertained solely through the person's age.

Hypothetically, if knowledge is not restricted to age, is it not possible for a 14 year old to gain the knowledge which you view them as inferior for lacking? No, they will not surpass you in terms of overall knowledge, but they could attain the knowledge which you consider as crucial.

You might argue that it takes your age to gain this knowledge, but is it not possible for one to be aware of the specific knowledge they require and seek it out? Does it take years of practice or a certain physical age? Is it dependent on the circumstances which are enabled through a certain physical age? Can you truly think they'll acquire it after you or at the same time as you if they begin at that exact moment of knowing which knowledge to seek?

My opinion is that it is possible for the child's specific knowledge to have a higher quality than the adult's higher but inferior quality knowledge. Overall, the quality can surpass the quantity.
 

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Re: Face is...

barran,
I do agree that age and wisdom are correlated. It is definitely likely for an adult to be wiser than a child. However completely disregarding the possibility for someone younger to teach you something (let alone taking a patronising attitude towards them - which is not conducive to meaningful communication at any age, though I suppose from what you've said you do not believe this possible if they're not as old as you) seems short-sighted and narrow-minded, as it does not take into account different personalities, levels of maturity, intelligence and experience. A child growing up in a war-torn country would probably have some wisdom perhaps unavailable to a 30 year old who's led a cushy life.

Wisdom is dependent on more than one variable, and your prejudice discounts the possibility of it on just one.

Again, FACE MAY OR MAY NOT BE THAT YOUNG - and by choosing to view her posts as mere entertainment you preclude the possibility of beneficial interaction and learning.

Aside from that,
If this were an Aunt Agony advice column perhaps this issue of wisdom would have some merit. But "life problems" are far from the only things posted about here. You would read these posts without 'sincerity' as well, simply because of age? Thoughts on an area of expertise are necessarily laughable or at least snigger-worthy when they originate in a kid's mind? If you say no, then what was the point of speaking so disparagingly?

You're essentially equating age with the worth of a post.

Three problems:
1) You're equating wisdom with age.
2) You're closing yourself off to the possibility of learning.
3) Unless you truly value posts displaying wisdom only, dismissing more intellectual topics - you cover all posts made by people under your age with a blanket of derision, regardless of topic and therefore of skill.

Everyone is blinded by prejudice to some degree of course.
 

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face (f
s)n.1. a. The surface of the front of the head from the top of the forehead to the base of the chin and from ear to ear.
b. A person: We saw many new faces on the first day of classes.

2. A person's countenance: a happy face.
3. A contorted facial expression; a grimace: made a face at the prospect of eating lemons.
4. Facial cosmetics: put one's face on.
5. Outward appearance: the modern face of the city.
6. a. Value or standing in the eyes of others; prestige: lose face.
b. Self-assurance; confidence: The team managed to maintain a firm face even in times of great adversity.

7. Effrontery; impudence: had the face to question my judgment.
8. The most significant or prominent surface of an object, especially:a. The surface presented to view; the front.
b. A façade.
c. Outer surface: the face of the earth.
d. A marked side: the face of a clock; the face of a playing card.
e. The right side, as of fabric.
f. An exposed, often precipitous surface of rock.

9. A planar surface of a geometric solid.
10. Any of the surfaces of a rock or crystal.
11. The end, as of a mine or tunnel, at which work is advancing.
12. The appearance and geologic surface features of an area of land; topography.
13. Printing a. A typeface or range of typefaces.
b. The raised printing surface of a piece of type.


v. faced, fac·ing, fac·es
v.tr.1. To occupy a position with the face toward: stood and faced the audience.
2. To front on: a window that faces the south.
3. a. To confront with complete awareness: had to face the facts.
b. To overcome by confronting boldly or bravely: "What this generation must do is face its problems" John F. Kennedy.
c. To confront with impudence. See Synonyms at defy.

4. a. To be certain to encounter; have in store: An unskilled youth faces a difficult life.
b. To bring or to be brought face to face with: "The prospect of military conflict . . . faced us with nightmarish choices" Henry A. Kissinger.

5. To cause (troops) to change direction by giving a command.
6. Games To turn (a playing card) so that the face is up.
7. To furnish with a surface or cover of a different material: bronze that is faced with gold foil.
8. To line or trim the edge of, especially with contrasting material: face a hem with lace.
9. To treat the surface of so as to smooth.

v.intr.1. To be turned or placed with the front toward a specified direction.
2. To turn the face in a specified direction.

Phrasal Verbs: face down To attain mastery over or overcome by confronting in a resolute, determined manner: face down an opponent in a debate; faced the enemy down.

face off Sports To start play in ice hockey, lacrosse, and other games by releasing the puck or ball between two opposing players.

face up To confront an unpleasant situation with resolution and assurance: had to face up or get out; finally faced up to the problem.

Idioms: face the music To accept the unpleasant consequences, especially of one's own actions.

in the face/teeth of In opposition to or defiance of.

on the face of it From appearances alone; apparently: On the face of it, the problem seems minor.

show (one's) face To make an appearance: Don't show your face on my property again.

to (one's) face In the view or hearing of: insulted me to my face.

[Middle English, from Old French, from Vulgar Latin *facia, from Latin faci
s; see dh
- in Indo-European roots.]
face
a·ble
adj.
 
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