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I am an INFJ - very odd.

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You are permitted to disagree, although I am adamant INFJ is my correct type. Ironically, the behaviour I display on the forum contradicts INFJ, yet there are valid reasons for these inconsistences. You will also be predisposed to disagree I'm F due to the insensitivity I have frequently exhibited.
 

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I don't think madmen were intended to fit under the MBTI tent.

Therefore I refrain from displaying any vile and biased opinion I may have had.
 

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I am sorry for your loss.

Is it true that all INFJs are defective?
 

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Thread worthy?
 

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You will also be predisposed to disagree I'm F due to the insensitivity I have frequently exhibited.


Sadly, I do not know you; yet I am certain that people here instantly think "Oh, F" whenever you post.




Claverhouse :phear:
 

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Well, I think 'oh, F**k' everytime he posts something, is that similar Claver?
 

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You're bipolar... or is it multiple personalities...anyways, you don't have a type.
 

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You're bipolar... or is it multiple personalities...anyways, you don't have a type.
Of course he does, everyone has a type no matter how bat shit crazy you are.

But yeah, I'd say he definitely is an INFJ. Some of the things I have heard him say sound straight out of Ni, and the way he fucks with people is exactly as an INFJ trickster would. There are so many facets to the INFJ that people are unaware of.
 

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Of course he does, everyone has a type no matter how bat shit crazy you are.

But yeah, I'd say he definitely is an INFJ. Some of the things I have heard him say sound straight out of Ni, and the way he fucks with people is exactly as an INFJ trickster would. There are so many facets to the INFJ that people are unaware of.

All the INFJs I know are honest, decent people. He's a maniac.

He said he was ESFP yesterday?
 

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Of course he does, everyone has a type no matter how bat shit crazy you are.

But yeah, I'd say he definitely is an INFJ. Some of the things I have heard him say sound straight out of Ni, and the way he fucks with people is exactly as an INFJ trickster would. There are so many facets to the INFJ that people are unaware of.

Wouldn't it be fun if Face and bluesquid met?
 

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All the INFJs I know are honest, decent people. He's a maniac.

He said he was ESFP yesterday?
I could point to quite a few maniac INFJs right now: Hitler, GG Allen, Jazmuheen, ... Okay that is all I can think of because they are usually not famous.

Ni is a hell of a drug, and if you don't rein it in, it will rein you in. Furthermore, the powers of Ni and Fe don't necessarily have to be used for good, just because kersey decided to call you a protector. Ni-Fe can easily be turned into a tool for manipulation, mass control, con artistry, and even lie detecting if you know how to read a person with it.

Please, do you really believe he is ESFP for even a second? Really? five minutes of Cognitive process research should tell you there is no way this person is an ES anything.
 

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I could point to quite a few maniac INFJs right now: Hitler, GG Allen, Jazmuheen, ... Okay that is all I can think of because they are usually not famous.

Ni is a hell of a drug, and if you don't rein it in, it will rein you in. Furthermore, the powers of Ni and Fe don't necessarily have to be used for good, just because kersey decided to call you a protector. Ni-Fe can easily be turned into a tool for manipulation, mass control, con artistry, and even lie detecting if you know how to read a person with it.

Please, do you really believe he is ESFP for even a second? Really? five minutes of Cognitive process research should tell you there is no way this person is an ES anything.

Wasn't Hitler ENFJ?
 

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Wasn't Hitler ENFJ?
I highly doubt it, his behavior that was documented point to introvert. Not to mention, how he ran the country (Ie: Turning a society into something completely different than it was before) suggests Ni to Fe, and not Fe to Ni.
 

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Of course he does, everyone has a type no matter how bat shit crazy you are.

But yeah, I'd say he definitely is an INFJ. Some of the things I have heard him say sound straight out of Ni, and the way he fucks with people is exactly as an INFJ trickster would. There are so many facets to the INFJ that people are unaware of.
Doesn't MBTI basically say "this is all about relatively average people, and the mentally ill are not relatively average, thus all bets are off for them"?
 
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I'm glad to know their hate is invalid, like the MBTI to the mentaly ill people, as I am mentally ill according to these people. What's there to define when the subject is chaotic?

Wait, I'm completely sane, I swear! I only stole a bird's eggs to have children for care. Where's the credibility in an invalid word? Nature is invalid, but we heed the creations which it offers.
 

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First of all, this is why MBTI sucks, but more importantly:

You are confusing the MBTI test, with personality theory. The MBTI test will almost certainly misread not just the mentally ill, but people who are highly developed and under developed. However, a person who does have a strong understanding of cognitive processes and the way the types use them could figure this out by analyzing said person.
So the quote you mentioned is not expressing the idea that the mentally ill are devoid of personalities, but that the MBTI test is only reliable when used on the average human being. It is no surprise to me that Face at one point must have tested as INTP, because he appears to have very strong Ti.

It is a bit of a stretch to suggest that face is mentally ill, I highly doubt he is. He might have some issues but that is not the same as being insane.
 

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All of you guys seem to hate this guy :confused:
I don't, I don't really know him. I'm actually a bit intrigued and would like to see how all this plays out.
 

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Oh...

Now I know why all of you hate this guy. I didn't really look at his user-name...

Pfft. I was abit surprised that the members were being hostile. Well, I guess I know why now. :beatyou::twisteddevil:
 
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First of all, this is why MBTI sucks, but more importantly:

You are confusing the MBTI test, with personality theory. The MBTI test will almost certainly misread not just the mentally ill, but people who are highly developed and under developed. However, a person who does have a strong understanding of cognitive processes and the way the types use them could figure this out by analyzing said person.
So the quote you mentioned is not expressing the idea that the mentally ill are devoid of personalities, but that the MBTI test is only reliable when used on the average human being. It is no surprise to me that Face at one point must have tested as INTP, because he appears to have very strong Ti.

It is a bit of a stretch to suggest that face is mentally ill, I highly doubt he is. He might have some issues but that is not the same as being insane.
I initially tested as INTJ consistently, but I regard these results as merely an example of my idealized character. For example, a military officer would answer according to the 'ESTJ' result to be the ideal individual for his environment, as I would with my ideal character for a personal context

It's difficult to introspect with impartiality to attain an accurate answer, but perhaps thinking one is every type enables an opportunity for development. I originally thought I was INTJ and applied certain methods to develop the elements of me which resemble an INTJ. Maybe everyone has characteristics of each MBTI type to be fostered, thus thinking you're all types is potentially productive to a degree.
 

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So, increasing denial/idealisation of certain personality traits will lead to decreasing accuracy in MBTI.

Not to mention a knowledge of the system can further skewer your results. Unless you're at total peace with yourself, it's very difficult to answer honestly. I personally tend to increase my T score...

I envy those who can utilize all of their functions. Striking a perfect balance between all types would an immense achievement.
 

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Face:
There is truth to that hypothesis, but it is unnecessary to pretend to be something you are not in order to develop your functions. It is essentially like pretending to be a fish so you can learn how to swim. It could work, but it is a round about method. For instance, trying to act like an ENTJ won't develop Te and Ni, because I don't use Ni or Te to begin with. Instead, serving the same purpose as Te and Ni I have Fe and Si, so the latter functions would end up being developed in that scenario. So it would be much more efficient to zoom into Si and Fe and work on them specifically instead of trying to gain more functions through method acting. The best idea is to have a clear understanding of what you have, what you can do with it, how much energy it will cost, and approach accordingly to how you will "Peak"

Dormouse:
There are so many factors along with what you brought up that also go into skewing the accuracy of an MBTI test, you really can't blame a person for answering in the way they do at all.
I don't understand why you are still taking the test if you already understand your functions? I mean, if you can actually recognize that you are drawn to and stimulated by Ti and Ne, you're an INTP, and that is all there is to it.
Never rely on MBTI to tell you how developed you are. I say this for two reasons:
A.) MBTI is ill equipt to give accurate reads on how strong each individual function is.
B.) It doesn't matter how many questions you answer, you cannot quantify the psyche.

So either you are going to have to recognize it in yourself, or I suppose have someone else recognize it for you. Being able to utilize all of your functions will not make you an Effective XXXX type. The hierarchy of functions will always exists, and it is really that which defines what type you are, not how well developed each individual function is. For instance, I have pretty well developed Fe for an INTP, but it is still by far my most draining function for me. On top of that, it still has the lowest priority of use, I'll never be able to use Fe like an ESFJ uses Fe, because my Fe is meant to serve as a slave to my Ti. Ti (In favor of Ne) calls the shots, Ti creates our sense of identity, and Ti is the source of our energy, this is always constant. This is what makes Me, you, and every other INTP, an INTP.
 

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