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Just wondering. Do INTPs enjoy doing that?

Do you do it out of love for their partner? Do you do it because of a sense of fairness (e.g. your partner does it for you so you do it for them, or because your partner is otherwise unable to derive maximum happiness otherwise)? Or because it makes sense to do so, and why?

I'm sure this has appeared elsewhere but I didn't see anything. Mods, please merge if it's an old topic.
 

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Sense of fairness? Wtf? You make it sound like a chore or mandated duty...

How about just having fun with your partner??

If you don't like doing it, don't do it. Simple as that.
 

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I lol'd. Hahaha. May I ask where this thread is coming from? :p

Ok, back to seriousness. I don't expect my partners to, and I won't when I don't feel like it. I don't truly mind doing it myself. I'm a guy, and in all honesty, girls taste somewhat... acid? It's a queer and not the best taste. That being said, if her body responds to whatever you're doing, to me, it's still a turn on. As with everything, I do it because I want to do it. Now I won't say it tastes or feels awesome, but that's not entirely the point. The point is both of you getting very sexual, especially your partner, which leads to... well, good sex?

I've noticed with the girl i've most recently had sex with, that it was typically the one who was horny that would do it, to get the other into the same mood as them. Who was going down on who depended on who wanted sex more. If I woke up next to her in desire, I'd need to turn her on before we got to the fun part, no?

Tl dr, as part of foreplay or because their body's reactions are amazing and a huge turn on. It's fun to play around with your partners body, see how they react to the things you do.

If the taste bothers you, just keep mints or something around. Also, some girls are weird. They want you to get down on them, but once you do, they won't kiss you for another 2 hours. So silly.
 

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@Absurdity
I lol'd such a great show.

I have nothing to contribute to the OP.
 
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All of the above, and I'm not sure why for the last one. It's just sort of instinctual in that it's one of the only times I'm not thinking...

However, there is a certain set of circumstances that must occur, i.e. I can't start with that. It would become an "Oh look at the time! Back to research!" very quickly.
 

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This is more than just a kiss, but like the kiss, mutuality might enter in. In the vid by Absurdity it was not mutual. Maybe she should have asked him first and see what he said.

As to taste, there was a girl who was a vegetarian. She tasted great, but my Si is subjective.
 

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ProxyAmenRa said:
If you don't like doing it, don't do it. Simple as that
Not an option for many men I think...
 

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If she has spent 20 minutes sucking your dick, Proxy, and is asking you to return the favor it would be pretty bad taste if you go like "shit no! y´crazy?"

Even aspies understand this concept I think.

If it's difficult to grasp, I'm sure you can find analogous concepts in the auspie school of economics :D
 

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If she has spent 20 minutes sucking your dick, Proxy, and is asking you to return the favor it would be pretty bad taste if you go like "shit no! y´crazy?"

Even aspies understand this concept I think.

If it's difficult to grasp, I'm sure you can find analogous concepts in the auspie school of economics :D

I don't know about you but most of the women I have been with give up well before the 20 minute mark.
 

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I don't know about you but most of the women I have been with give up well before the 20 minute mark.
So, if time is a factor, as I'd probably agree, should we try to find out at which point it is no longer ok not to return the favor? For instance, if she has been pleasuring you for 2 minutes, it would be acceptable to go straight to sex, but if she has spent anything from 3 to 30 minutes (at 30+, I guess sex is out of the question anyway), you are obliged to spend at least the same amount of time on her.

To be honest, I don't think using reason is appropriate in cases of intimacy/sex/love. Instead, one should rely on what "feels" right. To me it doesn't feel right to not return something which has been given to me, it being a blow job or some other act of kindness. I don't act according to kantian principles, for instance, then, (even though I might act in accordance with it) but follow my own sense of what is the "right thing to do", which is mostly, in this particular case, based on emotion. If returning acts of kindness is something that doesn't fall naturally to someone, that someone is a douche. I call it the "being a douche" principle.
With that said, doing an act of kindness only because one feels obliged to do it is arguably not what most would consider virtuous, but then again, some think that that's more virtuous than someone doing an act of kindness without it having any "cost" to the one doing it. They haven't sacrificed anything to do that kindness (i.e, he was horny, and couldn't imagine something more pleasurable than going down on the woman), while you, when you go down on someone that smells without wanting to, you act against your will because you figure it to be the just and moral thing to do - now, isn't that a nice thing to do? :P
After all, in the first case, you just have some horny dude acting on impulses, while in the latter case, you have someone that does something to pleasure someone else - and only to pleasure someone else - as he, personally, would rather stick his tongue in a thrash can.
 

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I was just posting on random numbers and will use what I've learned.:D

Take the time spent on one of you and come prepared with a random number between 0 and 2. Use that number to calculate time to spend on other. Keep pocket calculator handy and offer it to partner if they don't have one. Apply calculation and this will keep your encounter fresh and unpredictable.

Edit: I almost forgot. Be sure to have ready a second random number ready should there be a move to an unpredicted repeat. We do not wish to use the original as there are no formulas for these things.

Disclaimer. I take no responsibility for results as I can't be there to monitor.
 

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Perhaps we could use Pi (not you, ApplePi:P) to help us generate these random, or rather, pseudo-random numbers you speak of?

It's not like the woman will manage to figure out the algorithm by which you use to generate these pseudo-random sequences :P If she does, you should find someone else (or rather, marry her :D), or stick to one night stands.

Edit: would be awesome to merge the threads "going down there" and the thread about randomness. Any title suggestions?
 

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Did you know that some women like to go down on you but not the other way around?
 

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To be honest, I don't think using reason is appropriate in cases of intimacy/sex/love. Instead, one should rely on what "feels" right.
I only stop thinking right after the sex, and even then only for a few moments. I'm sorry but there is no 'off' button to my brain. Going along with whatever I feel like doing is fine, but that doesn't mean I won't be questioning every single step of it...

Perhaps we could use Pi (not you, ApplePi:P) to help us generate these random, or rather, pseudo-random numbers you speak of?

It's not like the woman will manage to figure out the algorithm by which you use to generate these pseudo-random sequences :P If she does, you should find someone else (or rather, marry her :D), or stick to one night stands.
I'd marry her. She's mine. gtfo. :evil:

Edit: would be awesome to merge the threads "going down there" and the thread about randomness. Any title suggestions?
@BigApplePi & @kantor1003 : I hate both of you. You just mocked the first genuine 'big' thought i've bothered writing out. If I had any feelings, I'd feel hurt right now. :beatyou: Since I don't, i'll forgive you both -for atleast thinking it over- but i'd appreciate keeping the threads separated :p

Did you know that some women like to go down on you but not the other way around?
^ Some girls enjoy certain kinds of sexuality, even if you're getting all the physical pleasure. I'm sure there are boys alike that, too. In all honesty, if girls tasted better, I might even find it fun myself. Then again, I'd still rather do it diffrently, but I can't help being biologically programmed for that. ;) Perhaps you can get used to the queer acid taste of women.
 

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I hate both of you. You just mocked the first genuine 'big' thought i've bothered writing out. If I had any feelings, I'd feel hurt right now. :beatyou: Since I don't, i'll forgive you both -for atleast thinking it over- but i'd appreciate keeping the threads separated :p
@Etheri.
Your coming forth with that is appreciated. Don't take it personally (though it can't be helped), but if there was any levity in what I said, there is also truth in it: Not to make hard and fast rules unless you agree with your partner later. One thing I try to do (not always successfully) when I feel mocked, is to take it seriously and mock the person right back. Feel free to let me know if I'm out of order and I'll shut up now.
 

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I'm sorry to have hurt your feelings @Etheri, but you can take comfort in the fact that I haven't read your thread about randomness yet.

@ProxyAmenRa yes
 

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@Etheri.
Your coming forth with that is appreciated. Don't take it personally (though it can't be helped), but if there was any levity in what I said, there is also truth in it: Not to make hard and fast rules unless you agree with your partner later. One thing I try to do (not always successfully) when I feel mocked, is to take it seriously and mock the person right back. Feel free to let me know if I'm out of order and I'll shut up now.
To both of you, I was just going along with the joke - no worriers =p

I'm sorry to have hurt your feeling @Etheri, but you can take comfort in the fact that I haven't read your thread about randomness yet.
Go read it. Also, for someone who hasn't read it, your reaction to BigApplePi seems awfully accurate to the topic / discussion we were having there.

Ps. Lets get back to the topic here. I mean, I don't mind going offtopic, but it's about sex, which is always interesting :D
 

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Indeed kantor, you and I are extremely lucky a fatwa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatw%C4%81) has not been issued ... so far. Now let's put our noses back into the business of this thread where they belong.:D
 

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I do it because it makes me feel like a boss.
That's a very interesting topic. Is one trying to be in control or is this a fun thing or is this a yielding to please the other in the midst of a romance or is this manipulation and a demand as in the video?
 
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That's a very interesting topic. Is one trying to be in control or is this a fun thing or is this a yielding to please the other in the midst of a romance or is this manipulation and a demand as in the video?

That video ruined it for me, thanks :eek:

I just am attracted to turning women on. Can't explain it.
 

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Well that's great. But why should what others are bother you that much?

In that video, those people were strangers to each other not willing to share much. It wasn't his thing; it was her thing. Maybe someone could describe them better.
 

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BigApplePi said:
Now let's put our noses back into the business of this thread where they belong.
There should be nose plugs for this, really.

Would anyone be offended if your partner used that?
 
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Well that's great. But why should what others are bother you that much?

In that video, those people were strangers to each other not willing to share much. It wasn't his thing; it was her thing. Maybe someone could describe them better.

I'm not sure.

I guess I like giving pleasure of my own free will, and feeling in charge. The way that woman just totally threw her vagina at his face, like a facehugger from Aliens, totally turned me off.
 

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There should be nose plugs for this, really.

Would anyone be offended if your partner used that?
You can breath thru your mouth.
 

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Sometimes I want to "go down there". Other times I'd just rather not. More often than not, I enjoy doing so because I know my partner enjoys the sensation and their satisfaction is important to me. Even if I'm not in the mood to perform oral sex and my partner wants me to, I will. I never expect my partner to then perform oral sex on me, especially if they came. It's not always about yourself. That's when you know you really care.
 

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I just do it because I'm awesome at it. I like being impressive and outdoing what my partner can do. I tend to be rather competitive when it comes to just about everything.
 

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69 must be rather interesting with you.
lol, you have no idea ;)

Let's just say I've made grown men pass out. And no, not from hitting them over the head with a frying pan. No joke, I just rock. :cool:
 

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..... Huh.
Yeah...it can get funky down there, but considering my crotch after gym.
Simple solution.… take a shower together. Tastes sweet after:confused:
 
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