Forum Mafia Game #2

[redbaron]

ABWOP: not saying you're sheeping me Shapelog, just that it would be pretty easy for mafia to sheep my points. The resonings you've brought up for your scum reads look to be your own ideas.

 

[PmjPmj]

I'm amazed nobody is reading me town due to stunning fecklessness. It's pretty bloody obvious when you think about it.

The thing which stood out most on cursory glance is how he (Shapelog) quoted me talking about Gopher. On one quote I'm saying (effectively) I read him as town, whereas on the other I'm FOSing him.

Those posts were quite a way apart, and a lot had transpired between the two... so I'm basically being called out on changing my views on another player given more time and further evidence.



Really suspect, eh?

 

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Players
1. PmjPmj - 1, Jennywocky
2. Reluctantly
3.Helvete
4. Breadbaron
5. hadototheMtotheothertothemotherfuckingblado
6. Jennywocky
7. Ika Bronto (The Shadow Cart)
8. Sinny 91
9. The Gopher
10. Rook Blarraun Cheeseumpuffs
11. Happy
12. Spacelog zerkalo
13. Urakro - 3, redbaron, Reluctantly, PmjPmj

Not Voting: - 3, ika, Spacelog, Urakro

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 Ends In: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdow...159&msg=Forum+Mafia+Day+4+Ending&font=cursive

Special Note:

Days are now 48 hours.

Vote Redbaron

Vote Urakro

VOTE Urakro

vote Pmjpmj

Unvote Redbaron

Vote Urakro

 

[redbaron]

@Pmj: your attitude's been consistent all game, even if everything else hasn't. I'll give you that at least.

 

[redbaron]

Also it's getting closer to deadline so please let's not have a no-lynch. With no doctor there's a guaranteed NK every night. Tomorrow is lynch or lose unless we hit scum today.

 

[Reluctantly]

@Pmj

I've got my own opinion on you, but until you make a defense, it would be unwise to say anything until you do (as mafia could use what I say as leverage). Unfortunately, I'm kind of on your side and I will most likely be the NK. So if you have to wait until after this round, oh well I guess.

 

[Reluctantly]

Oh and less than 2 hours left.

 

[Shapelog]

I went back through Sinny's posts and pulled out things where she talks about reads / votes about other posters, at least back to somewhere on June 11, which would have been the third day of Day 1 (before the first lynch) before my eyes buggered out...

Spoiler

I have to look at her filter, so i might do that.

Also @ Rec. Idc if the game is dead. At least I won't be buried in posts. (I do not have a smart phone, so only when I have a cp can I read this game 0_0)

About Pmj (still refraining from commenting on your case about him until he does), I was wondering why everyone outing their roles made him "bored". I could see it as boring while playing as mafia, but as Town I think the Townies would like to know because it gives them an edge to help win and figure things out. So this could be nothing, but if I had to bet on it, I'd say it wasn't. Then again, he plays dumb about me outing as Cop, so that could mean he really is time pressed and didn't catch my post; but that could still be true as a mafia player; WIFOM perhaps then.

It honestly could be town or mafia.

Town might feel that there is less to figure out, and will get lazy after blue roles get revealed. Blue roles for townies (even if in the hands of bad players) are a huge morale lost it seems. Could make sense for any townie to feel meh about the roles being revealed.

You also got to factor in (if you viewing the reasoning as if PMJ is town), that Habo flipped town. Which might factor into what he would be feeling like right now.

For Mafia, they might be getting the mafia blues. It is harder for mafia each day to keep up playing like they should. Not only that, but a good chunk of people think he is scum, and would also factor into him not wanting to play.

It just WIFOM tbh.

For all of your analysis, you're wrong. Which is unfortunate, because you put so much effort in to that I almost wish you were right.

I'll try to defend myself at some point, but I'm busy with family things this weekend. I'll have more time tomorrow, but by then I may be lynched.

Also, let's not forget that you may be scum. I still don't really trust anyone, save for cop dude.

I think Jenny and RB are the most suspicious... but that's just a gut feeling, and I've already proven they have been incorrect.

Meh, go ahead and lynch. Very few will be surprised when it subsequently transpires that I'm just a very shit town player.

Going off of the bold, do you have anyone who you believe is town other than cop dude?

Unless you're mafia, you're going to be face-palming. My bad, though; I underestimated requirements initially, and haven't had much time to build cases. Keep dropping in and out today but far too busy with the family.

A lot of space-dude's post is bullshit, mind - he's reading far too much in to certain things, and completely taking others out of context / failing to understand some basics... but time. Always time.

If I'm still around tomorrow, I'll make a case. My morning schedule is pretty free thus far.

Shape-dude. What am I failing/taking out of context?

I willing to work with you, even though I think you are scum. Mainly because I am not nearly as good as town as I am as scum, and can and often due go off in my own way.

Prove to me you are town. Frailing around like you are right now ain't convincing me of anything.

Oh wait I found it.

The thing which stood out most on cursory glance is how he (Shapelog) quoted me talking about Gopher. On one quote I'm saying (effectively) I read him as town, whereas on the other I'm FOSing him.

Those posts were quite a way apart, and a lot had transpired between the two... so I'm basically being called out on changing my views on another player given more time and further evidence.

Yes, But IIRC you said that you have been FOSing him since the beginning and was one of the first people to do so.

I look back to check to make sure.

Also Redbaron, why is your name recognizable? Do you have account on TL?

 

[Jennywocky]

I'm here, guys, doing some other stuff for the forum I'm running

just letting you know this will not be a No Lynch.

 

[Shapelog]

@Pmj

I've got my own opinion on you, but until you make a defense, it would be unwise to say anything until you do (as mafia could use what I say as leverage). Unfortunately, I'm kind of on your side and I will most likely be the NK. So if you have to wait until after this round, oh well I guess.

This is why I hate silent nights.

Would love to here what makes him town in your eyes. However, you are right about the situation.

its your call tbh. Like you say, today is most likely your last day. Unless mafia does some kinda stupid play.

Also it's getting closer to deadline so please let's not have a no-lynch. With no doctor there's a guaranteed NK every night. Tomorrow is lynch or lose unless we hit scum today.

Yeah,

I'll vote 10-5 mins before deadline for Urak, since I am sus. of him and sadly he isn't here to talk to me.

I fig. we can have the rest of the time left to discuss. I really want to talk to PMJ some more.

 

[redbaron]

Nah I don't go on TL. DarthPunk spectated the forum's last game though. Maybe I was so amazing that he mentioned me?

This is my 2nd game of mafia so I don't think we've met.

 

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ATTENTION:

Urakro has been warned via PM for inactivity. I will be looking for others as well.

 

[redbaron]

The reason I had Urak as my top scum-read over Pmj ws because of Pmj's attitude. He hasn't really changed all game. I have to admit that if he's mafia, it's damn impressive because it's the thing that makes me hesitate to lynch him even though most of his content strikes me as scummy.

Also he's been tunneling me which is annoying but not necessarily scum - but "attitude" is a good excuse for bad tunnels.

 

[redbaron]

Well shit. If Urakro is modkilled and he flips green, this is Lynch or Lose for town.

 

[Shapelog]

Oh yeah Darthpunk, I remember folly hearing his name over TL. Never played or meet him tho.

I think I am confusing you with maybe someone called Racebaron. I just Know that I hosted a game there, and someone was called RB (was actually RB too) so i thought it might of been you.

Wait, didn't someone say that you have the bus stat withen another mafia game?

 

[Shapelog]

ATTENTION:

Urakro has been warned via PM for inactivity. I will be looking for others as well.

Balllicks.

Still have to lynch him though. Even if we assume that he is not coming back and will be mk, we end up in the same boat RB said about being in lylo (if urak is town)

Idk about you, but I rather have 48 hours + the 24 silent hours at least to work out lylo then the next hour.

The reason I had Urak as my top scum-read over Pmj ws because of Pmj's attitude. He hasn't really changed all game. I have to admit that if he's mafia, it's damn impressive because it's the thing that makes me hesitate to lynch him even though most of his content strikes me as scummy.

Also he's been tunneling me which is annoying but not necessarily scum - but "attitude" is a good excuse for bad tunnels.

It slightly changes. It goes from having fun to being serious. IIRC he was in the middle of the habo tunnel he was in and suddenly made a joke post with sinny. This was also in show in the first few posts, serious then fun.

Urak has the d1 for him, but I haven't even been able to talk to him or hear his defense at all. So :/

 

[QuickTwist]

Well shit. If Urakro is modkilled and he flips green, this is Lynch or Lose for town.

Urakro has until EOD to post or they will be modkilled (if they are not lynched).

 

[Reluctantly]

This is why I hate silent nights.

Would love to here what makes him town in your eyes. However, you are right about the situation.

its your call tbh. Like you say, today is most likely your last day. Unless mafia does some kinda stupid play.

Well, Pmj is a newish member and doesn't know the community as well, as opposed to the majority of other players, so I would expect him to call people out on things that seem scummy, but are actually how that player thinks and communicates,

So I'd expect him to both wait on more detailed patterns for deciding who to lynch, think that early suspecting people is strange, and use what things appear "off" to him (using his gut more) to decide on a lynch. He's also made it clear from the beginning that he's pressed for time.

So his initial suspicions of Hado were the same reasons I suspected Hado last game, despite him being the town cop (lol). I don't understand or remember Pmj talking about Sinny, so I won't comment on that, but I think Pmj was legitimately confused with the Hado-Gopher situation and honestly believed one of them to be mafia (most of us were, I think); but since Pmj operates more on gut, he's going to be a bit more fickle and jump around on reads, jumping from Hado to Gopher (I get it). He's also going to find the whole outing roles to be boring because from his point of view he knows about as much as he did at the beginning.

He's also pressed for time and missed my outing myself as Cop, so I'm assuming he's Town; mafia would know that and given the above and his consistency in reads, I think Pmj isn't lying.

If he's mafia: Pmj is painting a picture of a mafia player that makes haphazard and weak calls that draws a lot of attention to him. Seems unlikely.

If he's Town: there's no inconsistency with his behavior.

So either Pmj is really good at playing the idiot clueless buffoon or he's Town. I'm inclined to the latter.

 

[redbaron]

Oh yeah Darthpunk, I remember folly hearing his name over TL. Never played or meet him tho.

I think I am confusing you with maybe someone called Racebaron. I just Know that I hosted a game there, and someone was called RB (was actually RB too) so i thought it might of been you.

Wait, didn't someone say that you have the bus stat withen another mafia game?

If they did I don't know how. My only other game of mafia was the earlier one on this site and I was Town. I think they were suggesting it as a possibility or something.

 

[Shapelog]

Well, Pmj is a newish member and doesn't know the community as well, as opposed to the majority of other players, so I would expect him to call people out on things that seem scummy, but are actually how that player thinks and communicates,

So I'd expect him to both wait on more detailed patterns for deciding who to lynch, think that early suspecting people is strange, and use what things appear "off" to him (using his gut more) to decide on a lynch. He's also made it clear from the beginning that he's pressed for time.

So his initial suspicions of Hado were the same reasons I suspected Hado last game, despite him being the town cop (lol). I don't understand or remember Pmj talking about Sinny, so I won't comment on that, but I think Pmj was legitimately confused with the Hado-Gopher situation and honestly believed one of them to be mafia (most of us were, I think); but since Pmj operates more on gut, he's going to be a bit more fickle and jump around on reads, jumping from Hado to Gopher (I get it). He's also going to find the whole outing roles to be boring because from his point of view he knows about as much as he did at the beginning.

He's also pressed for time and missed my outing myself as Cop, so I'm assuming he's Town; mafia would know that and given the above and his consistency in reads, I think Pmj isn't lying.

If he's mafia: Pmj is painting a picture of a mafia player that makes haphazard and weak calls that draws a lot of attention to him. Seems unlikely.

If he's Town: there's no inconsistency with his behavior.

So either Pmj is really good at playing the idiot clueless buffoon or he's Town. I'm inclined to the latter.

The bold and that situation (habo vs gopher) has a lot to do actually with why I do not like him.

I just find it damming that he wanted someone else to pick it up. Mutiple posts wanted others to read the case he had, and agree with it. Now, a townie wants others to read his case yes, yet, the way PMJ went about it seemed really aggressive. He seemed hell bent on getting everyone to agree with him, and if someone dsagreed (I.E. you) somewhat, he wasn't stasified. You think a townie in that situation would ponder what you said.

I just really cannot get over the "i am banking on someone else who will make a better case, or I will have to step up." sentence. I reads off to me like he wants others to be responsible for a lynch, which lines up with a mafia agenda (someone else pushes it, someone else gets blame) or sorts. And when it failed, he picked it up.

He did act that way you expected. But by now he should have something, as it has been 3 lynches (1 scum). I would like to see what he has to offer now.

Boredom is still iffy for me for what I have said.

If he's mafia: Pmj is painting a picture of a mafia player that makes haphazard and weak calls that draws a lot of attention to him. Seems unlikely.

He also is using that as a defense.

You may be right tho. Ik, personally, I am a bit reckless as scum, yet, I cannot speak for him about it.

 

[redbaron]

Also: starting to suspect Ika more.

He had a dialogue going with Jenny and it just evaporated. He was leading towards something about how Zerkalo/Shape was tied to Sinny somehow and then he just left it hanging in the air and didn't commit to anything.

I've been second-guessing my judgment on him because I realised it'd be very easy to just come into the game and then bus his partner - the majority of Town was leaning that way already.

 

[Shapelog]

Also: starting to suspect Ika more.

He had a dialogue going with Jenny and it just evaporated. He was leading towards something about how Zerkalo/Shape was tied to Sinny somehow and then he just left it hanging in the air and didn't commit to anything.

I've been second-guessing my judgment on him because I realised it'd be very easy to just come into the game and then bus his partner - the majority of Town was leaning that way already.

Eh,

But what he had in the yellow is correct tbh. Mafia do tend to treat their buddies more so or less so then other players. He did leave it though, however, he is apparently vacationing.

Vacationing, at this time of year. Urg.

I mean, you really can say that for ALL his posts. His posts he starts something, maybe a few posts here and there, and then he is off again.

 

[Reluctantly]

I just find it damming that he wanted someone else to pick it up. Mutiple posts wanted others to read the case he had, and agree with it. Now, a townie wants others to read his case yes, yet, the way PMJ went about it seemed really aggressive. He seemed hell bent on getting everyone to agree with him, and if someone dsagreed (I.E. you) somewhat, he wasn't stasified. You think a townie in that situation would ponder what you said.

I just really cannot get over the "i am banking on someone else who will make a better case, or I will have to step up." sentence. I reads off to me like he wants others to be responsible for a lynch, which lines up with a mafia agenda (someone else pushes it, someone else gets blame) or sorts. And when it failed, he picked it up.

yeah, that's why it's better for Pmj to do his defense, but I took the aggression as his way of "tunneling" Hado. Besides Hado had me pretty convinced something was up with himself anyway; and the same happened last game, where I mistakenly read Hado as mafia because of his game personality for similar reasons to Pmj's initial read on him. I'm just going to assume I can't read Hado anymore. He does things that are off, but then he ends up being Town. I guess if he roles scum, he can just play the same as he always does.

You could be right about Pmj, I'm just reluctant about lynching him. It could be a front, of course. But I guess if Urakro flips green,,, Pmj would be much more likely to be scum.

 

[Shapelog]

yeah, that's why it's better for Pmj to do his defense, but I took the aggression as his way of "tunneling" Hado. Besides Hado had me pretty convinced something was up with himself anyway; and the same happened last game, where I mistakenly read Hado as mafia because of his game personality for similar reasons to Pmj's initial read on him. I'm just going to assume I can't read Hado anymore. He does things that are off, but then he ends up being Town. I guess if he roles scum, he can just play the same as he always does.

You could be right about Pmj, I'm just reluctant about lynching him. It could be a front, of course. But I guess if Urakro flips green,,, Pmj would be much more likely to be scum.

Reluctantly is reluctant

Eh you could be right. It doesn't fully explain the "someone make a better case," but the aggression could be for tunneling. Could also explain why he wasn't like that with a few others.

 

[Shapelog]

Heads up,

30 mins I am voting Urak, and majority will be reached.

 

[Jennywocky]

Thanks. I'm still here, too -- been flipping over when I get time and watching too. If you vote at five minutes of deadline, that would be cool. I'll check too just in case your network goes out or something.

IKA is definitely riding the "helpful but not here" bus and it's hard to read... I'll have to read through the PMJ filter again in light of what Reluctantly has said and see if that gives me a different spin on things.

 

[Shapelog]

Don't jinx me with my internet going out in hurricane season :/

 

[Jennywocky]

ooopsie....

Apparently you should be okay for another 5 minutes

 

[Shapelog]

5 mins
##VOTE: URAKRO

 

[Jennywocky]

it's not bolded omg

 

[Shapelog]

Also QT

MY name isn't Spacelog!

 

[Reluctantly]

lol, a no lynch then?

 

[Shapelog]

it's not bolded omg

FFS
##VOTE: URAKRO

 

[Jennywocky]

I think we are good now ROFLMAO

I was about to change my vote in case, just to be sure.

Oh WTH I'm paranoid
unvote PMJPMJ
Vote Urakro

 

[Shapelog]

For fuck sake that was so unnecessary complicated.

I need a beer.

 

[Shapelog]

IF he flips scum:

IF not,

 

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Players
1. PmjPmj - 1, Jennywocky
2. Reluctantly
3.Helvete
4. Breadbaron
5. hadototheMtotheothertothemotherfuckingblado
6. Jennywocky
7. Ika Bronto (The Shadow Cart)
8. Sinny 91
9. The Gopher
10. Rook Blarraun Cheeseumpuffs
11. Happy
12. Spacelog zerkalo
13. Urakro - 4, redbaron, Reluctantly, PmjPmj, Shapelog

Not Voting: - 2, ika, Urakro

Urakro HAS BEEN LYNHCED! HE WAS

VANILLA TOWNIE

Night 4 Ends In: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdow...9&msg=Forum+Mafia+Night+4+Ending&font=cursive

Special Note:

Days are now 48 hours.

Vote Redbaron

Vote Urakro

VOTE Urakro

vote Pmjpmj

Unvote Redbaron

Vote Urakro

##VOTE: URAKRO

DO NOT POST!!!​

 

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Players
1. PmjPmj - 1, Jennywocky
2. Reluctantly
3.Helvete
4. Breadbaron
5. hadototheMtotheothertothemotherfuckingblado
6. Jennywocky
7. Ika Bronto (The Shadow Cart)
8. Sinny 91
9. The Gopher
10. Rook Blarraun Cheeseumpuffs
11. Happy
12. Spacelog zerkalo
13. Urakro - 4, redbaron, Reluctantly, PmjPmj, Shapelog

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Reluctantly HAS BEEN KILLED! HE WAS

TOWN COP

Day 5 Ends In: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdow...159&msg=Forum+Mafia+Day+5+Ending&font=cursive

Special Note:

Days are now 48 hours.

YOU MAY POST!!!​

 

[Jennywocky]

Well... kinda at a loss on how to proceed.

My reads haven't changed much since yesterday, The thing is I'm just in that state where I'm wondering if I am missing something at this point.

i was hoping the temporary three-way split on votes yesterday would pull in players who hadn't voted yet. (At one point, it was a 2-1-1 split and 4 was majority.) That was my plan, since I wanted more information about Ika for example and vote patterns are helpful. it didn't work out that way.

Is there any standard process for how to handle a lylo that is different than other rounds?

We have two days. It would be great if we could arrange a time where as many of us would be around as possible, to talk back and forth and go from there. it's about 10:30pm here, so my sleep time is coming up, but otherwise I check in when I can, to see what's been said.

 

[PmjPmj]

Just lynch me and claim victory for you Mafia team, Jenny.

Reluctantly made a better defence for me than I could. She hit the proverbial nail on the head.

Space-Twig: I wanted someone to make the case because of a lack of time. As for aggressiveness on pushing my point... I'm an INTJ. I know that must seem like such a bullshit excuse, but have you met others of my type? If we have a conviction, we follow it with gusto. I only wish I had more time to make a better case myself. It would have been feckless, of course - what with both Hado and Gopher being town.

Vote Jennywocky

Always somewhat on the edge of proceedings; too 'nicey-nicey, I'm so confused about everything' in her approach; swung by at the 11th hour to seal Ukidookiewookieflafksfjsdjfsd's fate.

Scum AF, Jenny.

FOS at RB and Spacetwig.

I'm done. Go ahead and end it.

/picks up violin case and horse head, then leaves the building.

 

[Jennywocky]

There was actually good reason to take time here, since it's Lylo.

But you are one of my two scummiest reads and I have no idea why you are making this play unless you have no others to make.

I read through your Day 3 filters yesterday and it's still just smoke and mirrors:

The game restarted at about 1am here, so I was already in a deep slumber whilst you guys were posting.

Within this game, I have consistently suspected three people:

- Hado
- Gopher
- RB

... the first two turned out to be town, so I'm now (obviously) second guessing RB. Fact is, he comes across as a bit too calm, collected and in control - but that could well be his actual personality. I wouldn't know, as I don't know the guy.

New suspicion #1 is Jenny. I appreciate that you are busy, but so am I. No matter how incoherent and inaccurate I have been, I have at least tried to go after someone, and was also consistent with my suspicions.

So, let's have it. Tired or no. It doesn't have to be a masterwork - let us have it.

I realise I'm also under suspicion at the moment. Not much I can do about that. I've made some incredibly bad calls, which paints a pretty damning picture.

for that one, you were singling me out for not providing a detailed scum list at the opening of a 48-hour day... but you provided no case of your own. Anyone can toss in a few names; I delivered when I got up and at least gave longer explanations as to why I was voting those names.

... and you're the cop, right?

Vote Redbaron.

I can't be wrong about all of them, surely?

Wow. Quiet day.

It's a damn ghost town in here.

Apologies, I've had a busy day.

You're reading far too much in to my vote for you RB. I can still see where you're coming from, but truth be told my heart just isn't in the game now that everyone has fucking role revealed. I fail to see the point, so I'm just going to shitvote you because:

1) I've suspected you for a while anyway
2) The cop also suspects you - and knows you better than I do

Shitty reasoning, granted. It isn't really reasoning at all, but meh. I have neither the time nor the inclination at the moment. The game went from 'great' to 'shit' in a few heartbeats. Lynch me if you want. Doing so would tip the balance in favour of the mafia a bit more (I am vanilla town; I have no reason to lie about this, given my total lack of enthusiasm for the game now). So, if you're mafia and you want to lynch me, hurry up and get it over with. If you're a townie, go bark up another tree.

The cop just voiced a suspicion, which you entirely sheeped upon, and your argument was, "I have suspected you." That's all.

For all of your analysis, you're wrong. Which is unfortunate, because you put so much effort in to that I almost wish you were right.

I'll try to defend myself at some point, but I'm busy with family things this weekend. I'll have more time tomorrow, but by then I may be lynched.

Also, let's not forget that you may be scum. I still don't really trust anyone, save for cop dude.

I think Jenny and RB are the most suspicious... but that's just a gut feeling, and I've already proven they have been incorrect.

Meh, go ahead and lynch. Very few will be surprised when it subsequently transpires that I'm just a very shit town player.

Again, a post without actual content.

Unless you're mafia, you're going to be face-palming. My bad, though; I underestimated requirements initially, and haven't had much time to build cases. Keep dropping in and out today but far too busy with the family.

A lot of space-dude's post is bullshit, mind - he's reading far too much in to certain things, and completely taking others out of context / failing to understand some basics... but time. Always time.

If I'm still around tomorrow, I'll make a case. My morning schedule is pretty free thus far.

A "No you're wrong" argument without actual content.

RB isn't going to hang, so:

Unvote Redbaron

Vote Urakro

Reasons:

1) self survival
2) damned if I'm do, damned if I don't... so refer back to 1)

If I don't and he's mafia, I look suspicious. If I do and he's mafia, I look suspicious (sacrificial lamb) and the only other case is around me at the moment. He'll hang, and he'll be a townie. Mafia are circling. I'm next.

A "jump on the wagon" without any real argument as to why you think Urakro could be scum.

I'm do?

I do*

I'm amazed nobody is reading me town due to stunning fecklessness. It's pretty bloody obvious when you think about it.

The thing which stood out most on cursory glance is how he (Shapelog) quoted me talking about Gopher. On one quote I'm saying (effectively) I read him as town, whereas on the other I'm FOSing him.

Those posts were quite a way apart, and a lot had transpired between the two... so I'm basically being called out on changing my views on another player given more time and further evidence.



Really suspect, eh?

A defense that picks one minor point out of an entire post and claiming that it completely negates the case.

Just lynch me and claim victory for you Mafia team, Jenny.

Reluctantly made a better defence for me than I could. She hit the proverbial nail on the head.

Space-Twig: I wanted someone to make the case because of a lack of time. As for aggressiveness on pushing my point... I'm an INTJ. I know that must seem like such a bullshit excuse, but have you met others of my type? If we have a conviction, we follow it with gusto. I only wish I had more time to make a better case myself. It would have been feckless, of course - what with both Hado and Gopher being town.

Vote Jennywocky

Always somewhat on the edge of proceedings; too 'nicey-nicey, I'm so confused about everything' in her approach; swung by at the 11th hour to seal Ukidookiewookieflafksfjsdjfsd's fate.

Scum AF, Jenny.

FOS at RB and Spacetwig.

I'm done. Go ahead and end it.

/picks up violin case and horse head, then leaves the building.

So if I post in the first few hours of a day, I am suspect; and if I don't post anything, then I am suspect?

You just look like you are swinging for anything you might be able to hit here, picking me as the easiest target and then FoS'ing Baron and Shape.

It's also sad when someone else makes a better defense for you than you ever could. You are hiding behind the badge again, though, and also being selective in which parts to remember.

Look at reluctantly's post again:

yeah, that's why it's better for Pmj to do his defense, but I took the aggression as his way of "tunneling" Hado. Besides Hado had me pretty convinced something was up with himself anyway; and the same happened last game, where I mistakenly read Hado as mafia because of his game personality for similar reasons to Pmj's initial read on him. I'm just going to assume I can't read Hado anymore. He does things that are off, but then he ends up being Town. I guess if he roles scum, he can just play the same as he always does.

You could be right about Pmj, I'm just reluctant about lynching him. It could be a front, of course. But I guess if Urakro flips green,,, Pmj would be much more likely to be scum.

Reluctantly did not give you a blanket endorsement like you are stating. In fact, she called you out as potential scum if Urakro got lynched green.

Like I said, you have no reason to make this play unless you are scum and expect to be lynched and this is all you've got.

Vote PmjPmj

 

[PmjPmj]

Well, the Mafia team are certainly motivated. I'll give them that.

(I have no idea what 'Lylo' is).

Unvote Jennywocky

Vote PmjPmj

This will be my last Mafia game for the foreseeable future. I lack time; I lack mental acuity. It was folly to think I could invest properly in this.

(I am town, but fuck all y'all.


<3)

 

[redbaron]

Vote PmjPmj

 

[redbaron]

GG.

 

[PmjPmj]

GG indeed. Well played, Mafia.

Fact is, you played so well and eliminated key players so early that I sincerely doubt I could have made a compelling case anyway. I was too changeable and all over the place, so ultimately lacked credibility. The way you began to home in on me was actually great. I'll type more on it some time in the future if I get chance.

I did have a strategy in play, but it was largely ineffective (it did keep me somewhat under the radar) because the end goal wasn't met due to various reasons. But meh.

*doffs cap*

 

[PmjPmj]

Oh and just to be clear, I'm calling RB, Jenny and SpaceTwig as Mafia.

Will I be right? Only time will tell

 

[redbaron]

There's only 2 mafia left.

Damnit QT hurry up!

 

[PmjPmj]

No. There was a TAP SEKRIT mafia inserted as a wildcard.

Maybe.

Well, in that case it's either you and Jenny, or you and Spacetwig.

Definitely you, though.

 

[Jennywocky]

What? You WERE town???? WTF

... offs.

 

[redbaron]

No. There was a TAP SEKRIT mafia inserted as a wildcard.

Maybe.

Well, in that case it's either you and Jenny, or you and Spacetwig.

Definitely you, though.

You're hurting my feelings.