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Merged "My fears." with this existing thread. Stop making multiple threads on the same "poor me" topic. This is INTPForum, not ChadForum.


This is your second warning. Three strikes and you're out.
 

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Awwwwhoooo!
I agree with Absurdity, all this Chad is causing absurdity!
Woof!
 

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Re: My fears.

I just think you're high on the autism spectrum. When I read your posts it strikes me that you're very disconnected socially and emotionally, while missing context and misinterpreting things constantly.

This came to mind when I started reading your posts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervasive_developmental_disorder_not_otherwise_specified

Either that or you're supremely manipulative and you're just enjoying the attention you receive from fucking with people.
I believe I have dealt with this on the forum before.

Basically two things.

1)I am not on the autism. At least not to the point were it would be noticeable.

2)I don't manipulate or fuck with people on this site.

I have been attacked on this site by a few people and I have done my best to hold my own but have never fucked with these people or tried to manipulate them.
 
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I don't think Chad's got much autism either, lots of people have some autistic symptoms. But I don't see Chad as having enough of them to qualify for a diagnosis.

I think you're a narcissist though, because everything revolves around you. And when it rains on Chad it's everyones problem.
 

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I don't think Chad's got much autism either, lots of people have some autistic symptoms. But I don't see Chad as having enough of them to qualify for a diagnosis.

I think you're a narcissist though, because everything revolves around you. And when it rains on Chad it's everyones problem.
I can respect that Cherry Cola.

You are possibly right.

I can't say I have no autism but I have never been diagnosis as such and I have a perfectly functional life. So even if I have autistic symptoms they are not strong enough to effect my daily life.
 

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Re: My fears.

Thank you this is kind of what I was wanting to hear.

I don't think you actually grasp my wishes. However, pointing out what appear to you help me understand some frustrations.

I actually love being critiqued. I would hope the deliberate threads like this would point that out. I love to share my ideas and have other people digest them and spit out the bad parts. Its a very enjoyable exercise for me. If I didn't care for that kind of debate I would have left foruming all together.

I am happy here. This thread isn't a woe is me thread.

It's far more I am recognizing a trend. Then I logically deduced that this trend is caused by my poor communication skills or deep seeded feelings I don't seem to recognize.

You characterizing me as unhappy here shows that I am not expressing my joy very well. I love debating my own thought especially. I don't actually like when things get personal because at this point I get confused as to what the reason for the other persons offense and since this is a written media its almost impossible for me to derive any kind of emotion form people on this site.

From talking with Jenny on other thread I learned that she was not actually attacking me in the way I thought. She had been trying to express an idea to me subtly for some time and settle on humorous pokes when she felt like here subtle points were falling on death ears.

I think I am learning more and more that I am not the only one misunderstanding and a large part of that is my poor writing.

Thank you again Hadoblado.
By the way for your information I haven't settled down on INTP yet. However, form those who know me best say it is the closest type to mine.
You do realize that even when you respond to these posts to justify being an INTP, you end up still sounding very much like an ISFP or a similar type? I think that's something people are reacting to -- even the rebuttal isn't handled the way an INTP would handle it, it's handled much more distinctly, like a different, known type. You seem to have different priorities in the exchange than an INTP has, and they seem instinctive for you.

There is nothing wrong with not being INTP, and you don't have to be an INTP to enjoy discussions and learn, in case there is some stigma that you experience with being a different type.

I'm just giving you information here, to help perhaps explain some of the response you've been getting. For a site aimed towards people who naturally test and vet and categorize and structure information, that kind of improper labeling can easily contribute to frustration; building frustration in turn then can lead either to being ignored or even result in actual social aggression.
 

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Re: My fears.

1)I lost a factory job.

2)It was temp labor and I missed a few days of work even though I had a reasonable reason the let me go anyway.

3)I hated my job. It was boring and I didn't allow me to think and put in creative input. It also felt degrading because, I have a college degree and I had to settle for a job I didn't work for.
What's your degree in? (Sorry if you mentioned this before.)

Is it partly because of the area you live in -- jobs in your area of expertise being hard to come by? Is moving ever a possibility?

I have done a little bit of temp work and factory-oriented work (including working in an orchard and assembly line one summer). It's not a lot of fun. I also had an ISFP male friend who was good at carpentry stuff who went to work on cabinets, but it was assembly-line and he HATED it -- he didn't last very long before having to quit. They had him doing the same drawer over and over, and he saw guys there who had been there for 40 years, and he couldn't imagine being able to survive that for an entire lifetime.

he ended up being a mechanic instead, and a good one. He now basically gets to troubleshoot mechanical problems as well as take the cars out for test drives -- fits his personality much better because it engages his brain and allows him to explore new problems daily.


4)My wife says she is doing fine and she is trying to be sportive. I do appreciate the effort however, it is still obvious to me that she upset at me for losing the job because it payed well.

3)My wife works a part time job because she is a full time Pharmacy student.
Yeah, I'm sure she is torn right now -- wanting to take your feelings and lack of enjoyment of the job into consideration (I doubt she wants you to be unhappy, she's probably happy when you are happy); but at the same time that's a pretty hard juggling job for her to work part-time AND be a full-time student while you are unemployed.


4)Our finances are okay for right now. We got a bit of money saved up and we knew this might happen. Also at the end of this month my wife will be getting her loan money form school. We are not in an ideal financial situation but we been much worse off before and made it through so neither of us are too worried about that.
Well, that's good at least if you can feel you can make it to the end of the month.

5)I am not sure what my employment options are right now. When I was look a few months ago things were not that great. I need to start back into look into this however, I happen to be procrastinating right now.
Yeah. Maybe you can afford to blow off a few days to get your head back together, sometimes that is important. I know job hunting sucks too, I've done it a few times (including once after being fired)... procrastination is easy to fall into. I found that if I actually made a list and calendar and marked off times and specific tasks, it actually helped me; being a flexer, if I don't have a hard list, I tend to not get much done. It's just that I hate lists, but they seem to be a necessary evil.

Mostly because at the beginning of the summer I asked her to get a part time job "for the summer" to help us out financially. My wife being who she is doesn't to things half way and instead of taking a part time summer job she decided to take a part time internship and agree to work for them for the next 3 years. So, if I don't get a job before she start school at the end of this month she will be going to graduate school full time and working part time and I will be doing nothing. It a bit stressful to think about I guess.
Well, not just a bit. And she is also carrying the load on the family on her shoulders. Even if you're not a traditionalist and seeing it as your task to make sure she's okay and finding pride in provision, an egalitarian relationship demands that both people contribute to things like finances. It's not great to also feel like you're stuck. For example, if she didn't have a job and wasn't going to school and you were stuck in that factory job, and she was just kind of drifting without making much progress or effort in finding work, would you be happy with her and the marriage? You'd feel trapped and probably feel miserable.

I don't know her or how she is actually responding, but this is just a general reality of thing; it will impact your marriage relationship if you drift too long...
 

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Re: My fears.

You do realize that even when you respond to these posts to justify being an INTP, you end up still sounding very much like an ISFP or a similar type? I think that's something people are reacting to -- even the rebuttal isn't handled the way an INTP would handle it, it's handled much more distinctly, like a different, known type. You seem to have different priorities in the exchange than an INTP has, and they seem instinctive for you.

There is nothing wrong with not being INTP, and you don't have to be an INTP to enjoy discussions and learn, in case there is some stigma that you experience with being a different type.

I'm just giving you information here, to help perhaps explain some of the response you've been getting. For a site aimed towards people who naturally test and vet and categorize and structure information, that kind of improper labeling can easily contribute to frustration; building frustration in turn then can lead either to being ignored or even result in actual social aggression.

I think that people don't actually even read what I am writing when I read comments like this. I am not actually attached to the typology INTP at all. It happens to be what I test when I give honest answers. Personally I would much rather not be tied down to anything including a limited type.

The more I have examined myself and my quirks the more I believe that I am an ENTP. I may be direct but that only give the context of the situation. I can be direct with people on a website because I don't have to deal with you tomorrow if I choose not too.

Therefore directness is a tool I use in this situation to help in myself discovery path. It also I tool I have used in the path with one on one conversations with strangers. It a faster mechanism to get to the information which I want.

Also I hate small talk so I would be direct with everyone if it were not social suicide to do so.

I am sure there isn't a person on this forum that acts like they do in real life. It easy to express yourself more forcefully when there are no consequences for that action (at least no consequences I fear).



Any how on a more particular question.

Why do you see me as more of an ISFP?

I find this very interesting as I have never remotely been labled this by anyone else in the past.

I believe Cherry Cola suggest I might be a ISFJ, Even though he and Own8ge are both on the Chad is an INFJ boat.

I know I am not INFJ because I lack the key motivation that every description of INFJ I have read. I don't try to fix people especially unprovoked. This however, isn't a bad characteristic to have need physiologist and Doctors in the world.

It just something that is obviously foreign to my personality.

Now, I have never looked up the ISFP type before, therefore I have no bias for or against this suggest.

I will wait to do my own research on this until after you can present a logical argument. Therefore with holding my judgment because I honestly don't know.
 

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Re: My fears.

I think that people don't actually even read what I am writing when I read comments like this. I am not actually attached to the typology INTP at all. It happens to be what I test when I give honest answers. Personally I would much rather not be tied down to anything including a limited type.
Then maybe it would be best to avoid talking about type at all.

For example, there are some here who, because I exhibit some Feeling abilities, view me as INFP. It's not really an insult, I have friends who are INFPs and I admire them; but it's not something that "debating" is really going to settle, and the reality is that my type doesn't even much matter in the big scheme of things. I know who I am regardless of what MBTI box I can kind of shove myself into, so to debate it usually resolves nothing and just wastes everyone's time. And the reality is that I see where they come from, and I'm old enough to have worked really hard in certain areas I was deficient in, to build up some proficiency. So yeah, I'm an amalgam now.

So in that case, I'd just advise not focusing on the term "logical" and justifying how "logical" you are. You might not say INTP directly all the time, but it sounds like you grabbed the "INTP" trait list and then tell everyone all the time how you fit the criteria.

The more I have examined myself and my quirks the more I believe that I am an ENTP. I may be direct but that only give the context of the situation. I can be direct with people on a website because I don't have to deal with you tomorrow if I choose not too.
You don't really seem to fit an ENTP pattern either -- I mean, BR resembles ENTP more than you, as feedback, in his posting style, and he doesn't even identify with the type.

How many INTPs and ENTPs have you met IRL, to key off of? Online relationships can blur type or only show certain facets anyway. Probably best to key off verified real-life types if possible.

I am sure there isn't a person on this forum that acts like they do in real life. It easy to express yourself more forcefully when there are no consequences for that action (at least no consequences I fear).
But you could then justify the exact opposite argument: People can be EXACTLY who they are inside because they won't be punished for it.

Any how on a more particular question.

Why do you see me as more of an ISFP?

I find this very interesting as I have never remotely been labled this by anyone else in the past.

I believe Cherry Cola suggest I might be a ISFJ, Even though he and Own8ge are both on the Chad is an INFJ boat.
I honestly don't know why INFJ would even be on the list. I know numerous INFJs IRL and online (even met a few last weekend at an MBTI meetup), and they carry themselves very differently. The Fe provides a kind of self-containment and structure. They only show certain parts of themselves in a controlled presentation, and even when they warm up, their expression is still controlled and focusd. They like to have closure, typically, even if it's not like ENTJ sense of closure.

You're kind of all over the place, put things out without structuring them properly. You come off as a P.

Also, I guess they are approaching N different. For example, if you are paranoid, they see that as lots of N... but that is not necessarily the case. Again, this is theoretical type vs Real Life examples. My dad and son are both Se doms and their Ni is thus the inferior -- and it's incredible how paranoid they are and how unfounded fears can dominate them because it's their WEAKEST function and undermines their dom. I think N doms and auxes actually can process stuff in terms of the vague generalities of N PROPERLY, vs inaccurately. The big issue with S's trying to iNtuit without much experience is that they don't know how to accurately weigh the possibilities. They get better with experience, but typically they get all weirded out and retreat back to S stuff they can get their hands on, because they can't properly weigh the possibilities and feel how likely they actually are.


I know I am not INFJ because I lack the key motivation that every description of INFJ I have read. I don't try to fix people especially unprovoked.
See, here's a case where the way you present your ideas is not logically structured. INTPs are much better at bullet point criteria listing -- it's how INTPs think. INTP boils down big fields of info easily into the core concepts that DEFINE the identity of the object or properly capture the important aspects of the info. The only core concept you list here is something that has little to do with exclusively being an INFJ. It's not a core concept of INFJ. But you present it as a reason for not thinking you are INFJ

Now, I have never looked up the ISFP type before, therefore I have no bias for or against this suggest.

I will wait to do my own research on this until after you can present a logical argument. Therefore with holding my judgment because I honestly don't know.
Why wait, and why am I obligated to present you with a "logical argument" before you decide to examine the evidence yourself? I've at least given you "reasonable cause," and any further progess you make needs you to take a little initiative on your own.

But I'm keying off (1) posting style (2) comments about your actual life that you have volunteered including regarding your marriage and employment, etc. (3) what things seem to matter to you (4) how you interpret things.

If I planned to actually figure out your type conclusively, that would be one of the first types I'd look at in more detail.

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UPDATE: Actually, you have heard of ISFP before at least once. You looked it up and posted an entire LENGTHY description on INTPc on Feb 9 in your blog and then went through it point by point to try to shoot it down, because at least two other members had suggested the same type to you. That thread was much a train wreck like this one has become.

You also accused the membership of INTPc of being far more E, S, F, and J than you are, and so you were disillusioned with their site because you wanted to find other INTPs like you.

I think it's good to reconsider what you know, if you join two different forums dedicated to INTPs, and no one on either site thinks you are INTP and they're all having issues with your understanding of type and how you discuss issues. It doesn't sound like you really get how to type with the MBTI system.
 
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Re: My fears.

1)I am not on the autism. At least not to the point were it would be noticeable.

2)I don't manipulate or fuck with people on this site.
It's noticeable. It doesn't mean you have a disorder, lots of people can have varying degrees of certain parts of what are considered generic, 'autistic' behaviours.

Your language, (mis)comprehension and the repetitive theme of your posts scream that there's something more than just generic misunderstanding here. There's a recurring theme to everything you do, and you exhibit the same recurring atypical ways of expressing.

If you are sincerely not manipulating people, then you have autistic tendencies. Because I think it's pretty obvious for people to see just how you get on people's nerves and/or how condescending you are unintentionally.

You've taken some pretty blatant albeit backhanded swipes at a lot of people, and if you're genuinely well-intentioned...you're definitely missing something.

I went to school with an Aspie guy. He's actually pretty functional for the most part, but has issues with generic two-way conversation and is always misinterpreting everything, or unknowingly saying things that grate on people's nerves.

Reading your posts is like listening to this guy talk. You write like he speaks, and you stumble across meanings in the same way that he does. I've never met anyone else who does this, who didn't have some sort of aspie/autistic tendency. Could be a gap in my knowledge, but from what I've researched and learnt about AS/AD/ASD disorders this is pretty much what you'd expect.

So anyway, was the person at my school dysfunctional/was it noticeable immediately? Not really. It just became apparent when he was put into situations that he wasn't equipped for - namely social interaction, and two-way discussion where the discussion builds upon each point and progresses naturally...instead he would fixate on key concepts and all but refuse to engage in discussion unrelated to them.

In any case, say you aren't ASD. Still doesn't make a difference as far as I'm concerned, because if you're genuinely not manipulating people, then you're completely out of touch with just about everything people post and miss the point of just about any statement contrary to your own. Failing to identify context (when people are joking) and persisting ritualistically your own pre-determined ideas about things to the exclusion of outside input.

Not noticeable indeed...
 

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Why is every thread I read with Chad as a poster digressed into: A discussion about "Chad's problems" between him and 1+ of about 5 different members.
 

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Re: My fears.

You've taken some pretty blatant albeit backhanded swipes at a lot of people,
Please, elaborate.

If you are talking about my dumb ass comment to Cherry Cola that was neither backhanded nor well intentioned. That was me being irritated by him and going overboard. I apologized because it was wrong. however it wasn't backhanded nor well intentioned.

The lots of other people part I don't understand.

I guess I have more enemies then I thought.
 

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Why is every thread I read with Chad as a poster digressed into: A discussion about "Chad's problems" between him and 1+ of about 5 different members.
My guess is because my writing is crap and people choose to read into things that I am not actually saying.
 

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Hasn't it occurred to you that people don't understand you because your writing is shit?

You writing has more problems than poor spelling, Chad. You don't just misspell words, you use similarly sounding words that mean something entirely else. Like saying "hear" instead of "here". These two words refer to completely different things. You seem to be able to spell longer and more 'difficult' words, but these simple 4 letter words elude you. Why is that?

Other than that there is the improper use of punctuation, and using wrong tenses sometimes. Your writing overall has a disjointed, incoherent quality to it that makes it hard to read.

No one is asking for you to write an English paper, but a forum is primarily a written medium and written expression is important. Bear in mind that a lot of people here don't speak english as as a native language, and they're much better writers than you.

Don't take offense to this, but your writing sometimes makes you come across as being mildly retarded, or having some other disability that is reflecting in the way you write. I don't believe laziness is the sole reason, I think you are just using it as a justification. If you have an issue this is the time to speak up about it and you'll get less flack from people.

Out of curiosity, I looked up your posts on INTPcentral. You were having the same issues there, people were being bothered by your writing, but your version of the events was that you were unjustifiably trolled and then banned because you complained about it. Btw, you were banned only for a week, for abusing the report feature.

You also martyred there like you attempted here. You seem to have trouble accepting that people's complaints about your writing are legitimate, and that your dismissive "I don't care to write well on a forum" attitude is what is making people angry with you.

Being lazy will not cut it, understand the issue and try to write better. Duxwing offered you assistance, maybe he'd still be willing to help. You have to work with us here.
 
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Hasn't it occurred to you that people don't understand you because your writing is shit?

You writing has more problems than poor spelling, Chad. You don't just misspell words, you use similarly sounding words that mean something entirely else. Like saying "hear" instead of "here". These two words refer to completely different things. You seem to be able to spell longer and more 'difficult' words, but these simple 4 letter words elude you. Why is that?

Other than that there is the improper use of punctuation, and using wrong tenses sometimes. Your writing overall has a disjointed, incoherent quality to it that makes it hard to read.

No one is asking for you to write an English paper, but a forum is primarily a written medium and written expression is important. Bear in mind that a lot of people here don't speak english as as a native language, and they're much better writers than you.

Don't take offense to this, but your writing sometimes makes you come across as being mildly retarded, or having some other disability that is reflecting in the way you write. I don't believe laziness is the sole reason, I think you are just using it as a justification. If you have an issue this is the time to speak up about it and you'll get less flack from people.

Out of curiosity, I looked up your posts on INTPcentral. You were having the same issues there, people were being bothered by your writing, but your version of the events was that you were unjustifiably trolled and then banned because you complained about it. Btw, you were banned only for a week, for abusing the report feature.

You also martyred there like you attempted here. You seem to have trouble accepting that people's complaints about your writing are legitimate, and that your dismissive "I don't care to write well on a forum" attitude is what is making people angry with you.

Understand the issue and try to write better. Duxwing offered you assistance, maybe he'd still be willing to help. You have to work with us here.
1)I have fully accepted that my writing is the issue.
2)I not playing the martyred when it comes to my issues on INTPc. I fully admit to my being banned was may fault. I have since changed many of the issues I had on INTPc and due to this I have managed to keep relative peace with people up until now.
3)I have never claimed to be permabanned form INTPc. I just no longer like the site so I don't post on it anymore.
4)The issue on the other site went beyond my poor writing. People there were personally insulting me and claiming that I was a fraud.

As far as me having mental issues you may believe what you wish but I am mentally speaking fully rational.
 

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INTPc is less relevant, but you devote practically your entire reply to that.

You haven't acknowledged or responded to anything pertaining to your writing flaws. I asked you why you confuse "hear" and "here", for one.

Will you attempt to write better or continue to be dismissive? There will be quality control if you don't improve.
 

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INTPc is less relevant, but you devote practically your entire reply to that.

You haven't acknowledged or responded to anything pertaining to your writing flaws. I asked you why you confuse "hear" and "here", for one.

Will you attempt to write better or continue to be dismissive? There will be quality control if you don't improve.
I admitted to having writing flaws.

I don't have a reason why I miss write Hear and here. I am sure its a flaw in my thought process. Not a mental flaw just a thought processing flaw.

There is at least some level of apatheticness involved. This is unlikely to change its part of my nature. Therefore I guess you have to do what you have to do.
 

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:confused: Just for my information how do I put people on ignore?

Just for my information.
 

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For those wishing to label me as mentally incompetent.

I was born with fetal alcohol and other drug related issues.

I also didn't talk or learn to communicate until the fist grade.

There was a real possibility for serious mental handicaps. However, as a child I was tested for mental defects or limitations form Autism, Retardation, dyslexia, Attention Deficit Disorder, and about every other learning or cognitive disability under the sun.

I was found to have server ADHD, Otherwise I tested in the normal to above normal cognitive function in every test they put me through.

The reason I didn't communicate until I was in first grade was due to impaired hearing, social scaring (I was abused as a very young child), and lack of focus.

While I am not perfect however, my mental functions at or above average.
 
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For those wishing to label me as mentally incompetent.

I was born with fetal alcohol and other drug related issues.

I also didn't talk or learn to communicate until the fist grade.

There was a real possibility for serious mental handicaps. However, as a child I was tested for mental defects or limitations form Autism, Retardation, dyslexia, Attention Deficit Disorder, and about every other learning or cognitive disability under the sun.

I was found to have server ADHD, Otherwise I tested in the normal to above normal cognitive function in every test they put me threw.

The reason I didn't communicate until I was in first grade was due to impaired hearing, social scaring (I was abused as a very young child), and lack of focus.

While I am not perfect mind functions at or above average.
I noticed that you have quite a number of siblings. Are you all part of an adopted family, or a foster-care family? From what you have said here, it sounds like you might have been moved from living with biological relatives into a home where you were better cared for and loved.
 

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Yes, I was adopted when I was 8.

My parents also adopted 4 other of my half siblings.

I have another older bio half sister that wasn't adopted into my family.

My parents are very loving people. They adopted 7 children in total Along with having 2 biological children.

Therefore I have 9 siblings.
 

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For those wishing to label me as mentally incompetent.

I was born with fetal alcohol and other drug related issues.

I also didn't talk or learn to communicate until the fist grade.

There was a real possibility for serious mental handicaps. However, as a child I was tested for mental defects or limitations form Autism, Retardation, dyslexia, Attention Deficit Disorder, and about every other learning or cognitive disability under the sun.

I was found to have server ADHD, Otherwise I tested in the normal to above normal cognitive function in every test they put me through.

The reason I didn't communicate until I was in first grade was due to impaired hearing, social scaring (I was abused as a very young child), and lack of focus.

While I am not perfect however, my mental functions at or above average.

So, you do have a disability. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

I did a quick Google search for writing difficulties and FAS and what came up described things people pointed out to you. Your facial features also correspond to those of children with FAS. The AHDH you mention is also associated with FAS.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2938300/

http://www.livescience.com/35547-learning-problems-kids-adhd-prenatal-alcohol-exposure.html



http://www.bced.gov.bc.ca/specialed/fas/readwrt.htm


Since my warning to you you went ahead and wrote another dozen posts with the same writing issues. Why is it so hard for you to make an effort? If you graduated college, surely you are capable of stepping up the quality of your writing.

I'm confining you to posting in Siberia for at least a week or two, effective now.

You post over 6 posts a day and having that many poorly written posts on the forum, with the rate not decreasing, and with no effort being put in, isn't acceptable.
 

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I have never claimed not to have writing issues.

And on more then one time people have commented that while my writing is often riddles with mistakes it not unreadable.

I have had many meaningful conversions on this site along with one that I an not able to finish due to the timing you this ill gotten ban.

I was told by the modes that I would not be banned by poor writing. I have had a few issues with pushing back when others have gotten personal. I was warned to stay away form this and I took steps to fix the issues. (I.E. put poster on ignore that were obsessively (in my opinion) critical.)

I do not agree with this ban as I was told by more then one mod that I wouldn't be banned for having poor writing skills. Since my last warning I have not pushed back (or provoked) anyone who was being critical of myself.

This is a Joke and I have know lost complete respect for you.

You don't have to worry about banning I will not be back on this site.

P.S. I understand the effects of FAS and they may or may not still effect me to this day. However, as far as my cognitive function concern I am a perfectly functional. Because I was believed to have FAS is one of the reasons I was tested as a child. Like I said, however, the test came back conclusively that my learning penitential was just above normal.

The only reason I felt like I should even share the FAS/Drag related issues is barbecue it help explain why I was tested. They don't just test every child for learning/cognitive disabilities.

Therefore I actually know for sure that I'm not Retarded or Autistic in any way.
 
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