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I was referring to the possibility that the Earth/human race is on whole an experiment.

Edit: Who exactly is fedoras?

Who? :p
It's a type of hat, as popularized by film noir, Carmen Sandiego and Indiana Jones.
 

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I'm not a scientist so I don't know but I can speculate. As far as the impish attraction towards whatever is the object of your fetish goes, I believe that the sensations and the general feelings we have are somewhat imprinted either early in development or by genes. The object itself is irrelevant, just you happened to be pointing at when regarding your fetish. This probably would happen early in development as well, being lost in the mass of the subconscious.
 

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I'm not a scientist so I don't know but I can speculate. As far as the impish attraction towards whatever is the object of your fetish goes, I believe that the sensations and the general feelings we have are somewhat imprinted either early in development or by genes. The object itself is irrelevant, just you happened to be pointing at when regarding your fetish. This probably would happen early in development as well, being lost in the mass of the subconscious.


Seems like a very plausible theory.
My own theory was something along those lines.

By the way: Go be a scientist! All us INTP's should do that. Start a guild, make cool stuff like remote controlled turtles, and stuff.
 

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All us INTP's should do that. Start a guild, make cool stuff like remote controlled turtles, and stuff.
Hmm, Google personal maps gives me an idea..

Nothing probably would get accomplished except for an understanding of everyone else.
 

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I prefer no girl clubs, because girls are dramatic and silly. After a while, they'd want to date another member, then someone will get jealous, then people will stop hanging out as much... it's a recipe for disaster.
 

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*stretches and yawns*

Enough with chauvinistic threads already, we've received the message loud and clear. Your penises are tiny and you blame women for it.

We get it, so shut up would you kindly? :rolleyes:
 

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^Hear, hear.

This place is one of few where I don't have to listen to stereotypic crap because people see the value and importance of individuality. I'd like for it to stay that way. This subjective nonsense based on such narrow way of thinking you can take via PM. You are reducing the quality of any thread by such behavior.
 

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There are some (very specific) situations where it's best to keep the genders separated, war for example, now I'm not saying women are too delicate for combat roles, that would just be silly, but if you're serving on a submarine you'd expect the sonar operator in charge of detecting incoming threats is paying attention to what he or she is doing and not the person next to them. Or what if you're a soldier out in the field and you need to pee, you can't exactly leave the group for some privacy, that's a sure way to get yourself killed or captured, quite literally with your pants down.

Of course this could go either way, there could be an all female military.
I'm not against that.

I prefer no girl clubs, because girls are dramatic and silly. After a while, they'd want to date another member, then someone will get jealous, then people will stop hanging out as much... it's a recipe for disaster.
...yeah that's chauvinistic.

Although (because I just have to be the devil's advocate) if a group of males want to form an exclusively male club/guild/whatever isn't it their right to do so, after all it is theirs, and I'm certain the vast majority of guys couldn't care less if there was a female equivalent formed, which begs the question, do women feel somehow challenged by exclusion?
 

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There are some (very specific) situations where it's best to keep the genders separated, war for example, now I'm not saying women are too delicate for combat roles, that would just be silly, but if you're serving on a submarine you'd expect the sonar operator in charge of detecting incoming threats is paying attention to what he or she is doing and not the person next to them.

Are you going to use use those same arguments to ban homosexuals from the military? What business do people who cannot even separate their job and their sexuality have in such delicate positions?

Or what if you're a soldier out in the field and you need to pee, you can't exactly leave the group for some privacy, that's a sure way to get yourself killed or captured, quite literally with your pants down.

'Shyness' is just as contrived a reason. The only reason it bothers people, is because they're socially engineered for it to bother them and then go on to perpetuate it.

I think this is a more prevalent issue when it comes to the military.

Although (because I just have to be the devil's advocate) if a group of males want to form an exclusively male club/guild/whatever isn't it their right to do so, after all it is theirs, and I'm certain the vast majority of guys couldn't care less if there was a female equivalent formed, which begs the question, do women feel somehow challenged by exclusion?
Eh I hardly care if they form groups or whatnot, I wasn't even targeting that post specifically. Although I'm sure you agree that wasn't its intent. It's the trolling, irrelevant nature of various of posts I find annoying. I'm tired of the bitching as it were.
 

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Yeah, I don't have to be a part of everything. What bothers me is the general attitude. It does nothing to contribute or encourage useful discussion. I don't have any problems with discussing gender differences in general. But saying stuff like "girls suck" won't really satisfy me on an intellectual level. I don't really see how people are getting wiser from it either.

It's just meaningless filler that may discourage people from posting well thought-out posts. It decreases overall quality of debate.
 

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Are you going to use use those same arguments to ban homosexuals from the military?
Or lesbians, either way.

'Shyness' is just as contrived a reason. The only reason it bothers people, is because they're socially engineered for it to bother them and then go on to perpetuate it.
So lets kill'em all and start again eh?
Or y'know brainwash them until they're unable to rejoin regular society.

I think this is a more prevalent issue when it comes to the military.
Honestly I'm not surprised, I didn't want to bring this up because it's a distasteful topic, but 2% is all that separates men from chimps, and male brains (thus male instincts) are very different to the female equivalent, so don't expect them to behave like women, now I'm not making an excuses for rapists, instead I refer back to my opening statement, I’m honestly not surprised.

What business do people who cannot even separate their job and their sexuality have in such delicate positions?
I believe this goes both ways (including the homosexual) and lets be perfectly clear about this, I’m talking about an in combat scenario where implicitly being even the slightest bit distracted can cost lives, now granted nine times out of ten your average person is going to be doing their job, but when someone’s sitting there for several hours on end... the mind wanders, perhaps only for ten seconds, but that’s all it takes.

If war isn't a deadly serious exercise where absolutely no unnecessary risks can be taken, then where is?

If women want to engage in combat, sure whatever, if they want to die for something, hey it's their life, but concerns about chauvinism are hardly a first priority issue when lives are at stack, not even close. So if the military (of any country) wants to have men and women in front line combat roles they should seriously consider researching hormonal suppressants or something to the desired effect, because both genders find the other distracting, it's biology.
 

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Or lesbians, either way.

Lesbians are homosexuals.


So lets kill'em all and start again eh?
Or y'know brainwash them until they're unable to rejoin regular society.

or if it's really so important, you could castrate them. :D

on a serious note I don't understand how learning to tolerate nudity in the opposite gender would make them incapable of rejoining society. Certainly far less so than killing other humans would.


Honestly I'm not surprised, I didn't want to bring this up because it's a distasteful topic, but 2% is all that separates men from chimps, and male brains (thus male instincts) are very different to the female equivalent, so don't expect them to behave like women, now I'm not making an excuses for rapists, instead I refer back to my opening statement, I’m honestly not surprised.

I'm not surprised either, rape does happen, but I am disturbed that it's acceptable and there's little to nothing that can be done by a victim seeking justice.

You're right humans are animals, however we animals have constructed a society, and we have a system of justice for a reason. People can no longer go around killing each other without consequences, even if their instincts demand it. We've stopped murder of the instinctual variety, for the most part. The consequences are enough to discourage it, why isn't the same true for rape?

As a female, I can tell you there is no line of feminine thinking a male cannot follow if they are willing. As a female with a brain deemed masculine by society and a desire to understand, tell me, what is it about men that I'm not grasping? Have you no faith that your gender on whole cannot stop such behavior if the consequences designed to avert them are actually enforced?

I believe this goes both ways (including the homosexual) and lets be perfectly clear about this, I’m talking about an in combat scenario where implicitly being even the slightest bit distracted can cost lives, now granted nine times out of ten your average person is going to be doing their job, but when someone’s sitting there for several hours on end... the mind wanders, perhaps only for ten seconds, but that’s all it takes.

There are certainly other distractions, even sexualization of other men. It's not like female military personnel are dressed to kill; half the time you cannot even tell they are female. Plus the human mind will conjure up erotic images in absence anyway (or harass an androgynous male soldier). You can't divorce sexuality from human nature, but neither is it uncontrollable. Is not part of the very intent of military organizations to enforce discipline among it's ranks? Why does that just disappear when it comes to tolerating coed working conditions?

I find it hard to believe that men, especially supposedly well trained and disciplined men have so little self control. I believe that they do, their actions are entirely conscious and willful, especially in the knowledge that they'll probably get away with it.

If war isn't a deadly serious exercise where absolutely no unnecessary risks can be taken, then where is?

Is there any hard evidence that males working with females in a militarized setting are less capable than males working solely with other males? or vice versa?

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If women want to engage in combat, sure whatever, if they want to die for something, hey it's their life, but concerns about chauvinism are hardly a first priority issue when lives are at stack, not even close.

You are the one who made the association with the chauvinism and the military.

I'd never join a militia; I have a hard time understanding why anyone would. I also suspect the human race would be better off without such institutions.

So if the military (of any country) wants to have men and women in front line combat roles they should seriously consider researching hormonal suppressants or something to the desired effect, because both genders find the other distracting, it's biology.

*agreed*

My main point is that simply banning a gender from service isn't going to fix your biological problems, only redirect them.
 

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Can't say I would let a girl in though. Everyone knows that you're lesser. Would only be in the way!


(Someone back me up before I get destroyed)

lol is it now..?

ftr...

I agree with the seperation of the sexes in most circumstances, otherwise it gets complicated. But online...and in an INTP forum....
 

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Y'know I can't help but think that sexism (both ways mind you), is merely caused by the poor socialization between sexes, since gender segregation is ridiculously prevalent. I think this could cause people to remain overly sensitive to the opposite sex.

ie if you've had close, nonsexual relationships with peers of the opposite gender you're less apt to jump on assumptions and generalizations or base your complete understanding of a gender upon a narrow field. In my personal experience I've found T women and F men tend not to judge people by their genders quite as much as their counterparts. Is this empathy, mixed socialization, or a stigma towards their own genders? Probably all three.

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and quietgirl just made my point for me. XD
It's kind of like with dogs. If you don't socialize puppies to humans, they become intolerant to the majority of them, and depending on the breed, feral.

Of course the solution to this is more socialization and mutual understanding. Not less, then you'll only exacerbate it.
 

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on a serious note I don't understand how learning to tolerate nudity in the opposite gender would make them incapable of rejoining society. Certainly far less so than killing other humans would.
Tolerance isn't the issue.

I'm not surprised either, rape does happen, but I am disturbed that it's acceptable and there's little to nothing that can be done by a victim seeking justice.

You're right humans are animals, however we animals have constructed a society, and we have a system of justice for a reason. People can no longer go around killing each other without consequences, even if their instincts demand it. We've stopped murder of the instinctual variety, for the most part. The consequences are enough to discourage it, why isn't the same true for rape?

As a female, I can tell you there is no line of feminine thinking a male cannot follow if they are willing. As a female with a brain deemed masculine by society and a desire to understand, tell me, what is it about men that I'm not grasping? Have you no faith that your gender on whole cannot stop such behavior if the consequences designed to avert them are actually enforced?
The difference is we're talking about a combat environment, one where people are regularly engaging in kill or be killed encounters and witnessing a disturbing number of their friends/allies dying, and in such an environment I believe there will always be these sorts of problems due to the extreme psychological stresses involved, in this way the issue is no different to suicide, except it’s entirely preventable.

Morality just isn’t a factor, an extreme environment will produce extreme behaviours, so yes, I honestly don’t think it can be stamped out to an acceptable degree without perhaps another factor like drugs or brain modification being involved.

As for how this issue is currently being handled, I couldn’t agree more, it’s atrocious.

There are certainly other distractions, even sexualized thoughts about other men. It's not like female military personnel are dressed to kill; half the time you cannot even tell they are female. Plus the human mind will conjure up erotic images in absence anyway. You can't divorce sexuality from human nature, but neither is it uncontrollable. Is not part of the very intent of military organizations to enforce discipline among it's ranks? Why does that just disappear when it comes to tolerating coed working conditions?

I find it hard to believe that men, especially supposedly well trained and disciplined men have so little self control.
You'll note that in my example I could have been talking about either gender...
Also I'm a guy, and I'm telling you it doesn’t take much to distract one.
(which I loathe)

Now I can't vouch for women, because I just don't know.

Is there any hard evidence that males working with females in a militarized setting are less capable than males working solely with other males? or vice versa?
See again you specify males, you're just arguing for the sake of it aren’t you?

My main point is that simply banning a gender from service isn't going to fix your biological problems.
My point is that it's a quick, easy fix and the reasons why it shouldn't be done don't outweigh the advantages of doing it, that is to say, why does there need to be both genders in active combat roles?
 

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I never actually argued for coed active combat roles and in the US I'm fairly certain the policy is as you describe (which I find somewhat dubious, but ultimately of little consequence). However their are many areas in the military of which gender segregation is not necessary and not implemented, yet what the article outlined still occurs. That is what I'm arguing against. I don't think we're discussing the same thing.

Although I'm still confused. The area you outline is actually a very small part of military operation, as this isn't trench warfare or an FPS. Plus most squads train together extensively, becoming accustomed to working with each other and an effective team before ever seeing combat. Yes lives are at stake, but in the heat of battle, what trained unit is contemplating the gender of their comrades? It's old news and if there was a problem it would have long been dealt with. Of course loss is going to be devastating, whether your comrade was male or female.

See again you specify males, you're just arguing for the sake of it aren’t you?

It's the convenience of language, that and the 'vice versa' was supposed to cover, well the vice versa of gender.

and no I'm not in the habit of arguing when I see no point to it.
 

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*stretches and yawns*

Enough with chauvinistic threads already, we've received the message loud and clear. Your penises are tiny and you blame women for it.

We get it, so shut up would you kindly? :rolleyes:
... My ex said it's cute :(
 

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I have to say, in the short time I've been here I've noticed many times that this is one of the more sexist message boards I've been on. At first I wrote some of the comments off as jokes made by socially awkward people, but the more of them I see, the more I start to wonder if they were meant to be taken seriously.

The argument about banning women from the military because the men might get distracted says more about the poor character of the men than it does about the presence of women. If you can't control yourself well enough to do your job properly--and part of the job description for the military is having the mental discipline to stay focused--then you should get yourself out.

It's precisely this argument that's used to ban homosexuals from the military, because the straight soldiers will be distracted wondering if they're going to be ass-raped by their comrades in arms, and I've found it ridiculous right from the first time I heard it.

Military = self control. No self control = no military.
 

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Okay, when people are shooting at you, your sex drive isn't as important as your survival. Sex has no significant role on the battlefield, unless your battle buddy gets shot and a woman has to try to carry him somewhere. Women aren't as strong as men, they're held to lower standards physically, that's the only difference.

When there's no battling, that's when the sex happens. Barracks whores exist. It's not a myth.
 

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I have to say, in the short time I've been here I've noticed many times that this is one of the more sexist message boards I've been on. At first I wrote some of the comments off as jokes made by socially awkward people, but the more of them I see, the more I start to wonder if they were meant to be taken seriously.

The argument about banning women from the military because the men might get distracted says more about the poor character of the men than it does about the presence of women. If you can't control yourself well enough to do your job properly--and part of the job description for the military is having the mental discipline to stay focused--then you should get yourself out.

It's precisely this argument that's used to ban homosexuals from the military, because the straight soldiers will be distracted wondering if they're going to be ass-raped by their comrades in arms, and I've found it ridiculous right from the first time I heard it.

Military = self control. No self control = no military.

I have to agree with you on that one. Except that I'd like to point out that my jokes were in fact jokes.. I was raised by a a "red" socialist mother, and a sister. I'm probably more girl than guy. :eek:
 

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I have to say, in the short time I've been here I've noticed many times that this is one of the more sexist message boards I've been on. At first I wrote some of the comments off as jokes made by socially awkward people, but the more of them I see, the more I start to wonder if they were meant to be taken seriously.

It tends to come and go, but it is particularly bad right now, with the advent of a few particularly idiotic newcomers.

Of course the INTP way is just to observe passively the folly of others, but this tendency of the forum has driven away intelligent and insightful female members before (If not for Cog I would've have most likely left too). I've little patience left for it.

*ticks off a name on her bitch-out list*
I'm looking at you Galthian.
 

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It tends to come and go, but it is particularly bad right now, with the advent of a few particularly idiotic newcomers.

Of course the INTP way is just to observe passively the folly of others, but this tendency of the forum has driven away intelligent and insightful female members before (If not for Cog I would've have most likely left too). I've little patience left for it.

*ticks off a name on her bitch-out list*
I'm looking at you Galthian.


Are you serious?

I must say I haven't noticed that extreme sexism for the (alsmost) past year I've been here. Maybe because I'm not the victim, but I rarely let things goes unnoticed just because I'm not in the crossfire.

Or maybe I just participate in other threads.
 

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I have been thinking of something. It's kind of a half question half theory.
It might be a silly question, but I've been grinding my mind to figure out this one.

Fetishes. Any kind, doesn't HAVE to be a sexual one, as far as I'm concerned

Take balloon fetish (obvious choice)
Is one born with this fetish? I mean, can you grow up without knowing about balloons and then when you finally see one, does that fetish manifest itself, from it's saved spot in your brain? So to speak.

Or, does the fetish simply develop when one sees and interact with a balloon?

This question obviously, applies to all kinds of fetishes. Not only balloons.
Keep that in mind when you reply!
It might already have been resolved and answered, in a book written 50 years ago.


Though, I am still looking forward to reading your theories. =)

I'm an INTJ and joined this Forum after seeing the post about balloons and fetishes. Here's what happened to me growing up. From age 5 to 12 I liked having balloons, shortly after my 12th birthday I got excited inflating a balloon.
This was a new fun experience so I got more balloons to play with. I don't know why this thing with balloons happened but it did. There's other guys like me that post on a site called UKL Looners. Recently there was a documentary about strange sex, including a bit about guys liking balloons, there's videos about this on YT. My friends/neighbors/family see me as just another married guy. Freud thinks we're born with polymorphous sexual feelings and that by age five we take on societies norms.
 

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It's a linking of associations. The fetish object has some property, which is associated in the brain with sexual excitement. I guess it's possible that this could happen immediately, so long as the relevant property of the thing is immediately recognised, though more often the process is gradual.
 

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Why do people continuously associate fetishes with something sexual? It's just an attraction, it doesn't have to be that you want stick something in whatever it is you're "fetished to"
 

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Essentially, fetishism is the attribution of inherent value or powers to an object.
I don't have that. Rather the opposite. But I recognize others do. Most actually, sub consciously. So I exploit this. Like clothing. Most assumes that this belongs there and here etc. While it doesn't. Not really, from how I put all of this together.

So there are powers to objects. And I'm quiet sure it's not imagined.
 

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Why do people continuously associate fetishes with something sexual? It's just an attraction, it doesn't have to be that you want stick something in whatever it is you're "fetished to"
Fetish in that context is the exception, not the rule. So few people are that sort of shamanistic spiritual that it's used in that context primarily in describing the practices of other, tribal cultures.
 

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Why do people continuously associate fetishes with something sexual? It's just an attraction, it doesn't have to be that you want stick something in whatever it is you're "fetished to"
All attractions, I presume, are either sexual or emotional.
 

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And right there, you as you said yourself. There is no need to always associate fetish with sexual 'stuff'

A fetish is a sexual desire or lust for something. e.g. If you have a fetish for blood and gore, it gets you aroused.
 

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No. That's a sexual fetish.
Please, enlighten me on the kinds of "non-sexual fetishes". In fact, you can help me understand even more by explaining to me why the word "fetish" is allowed to include non-sexual attractions. Yes, I'm arguing semantics as it is the nature of our disagreement - there is no other way.
 

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Please, enlighten me on the kinds of "non-sexual fetishes". In fact, you can help me understand even more by explaining to me why the word "fetish" is allowed to include non-sexual attractions. Yes, I'm arguing semantics as it is the nature of our disagreement - there is no other way.

This article concerns the concept of fetishism in anthropology. For sexual fetishes, see Sexual fetishism.

A fetish (derived from the French fétiche; which comes from the Portuguese feitiço; and this in turn from Latin facticius, "artificial" and facere, "to make") is an object believed to have supernatural powers, or in particular, a man-made object that has power over others. Essentially, fetishism is the attribution of inherent value or powers to an object.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetishism :p
 

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Please, enlighten me on the kinds of "non-sexual fetishes". In fact, you can help me understand even more by explaining to me why the word "fetish" is allowed to include non-sexual attractions. Yes, I'm arguing semantics as it is the nature of our disagreement - there is no other way.

I'd say it's quite simple. A sexual fetish is a fetish which you are attracted to, sexually. A 'normal' fetish is an attraction. You could say a historian has a history fetish, or a gamer has a video-game fetish and so forth. At least in my opinion.
 

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I'd say it's quite simple. A sexual fetish is a fetish which you are attracted to, sexually. A 'normal' fetish is an attraction. You could say a historian has a history fetish, or a gamer has a video-game fetish and so forth. At least in my opinion.
But then why bother calling it a fetish at all, most people associate the word fetish with a sexual attraction. If you insist on using a word like that and not defining what you mean clearly it only complicates and confuses things.
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But then why bother calling it a fetish at all, most people associate the word fetish with a sexual attraction. If you insist on using a word like that and not defining what you mean clearly it only complicates and confuses things.
:storks:
It's not my problem that people often associate the word "fetish" with something sexual. If I mean a sexual fetish I'll say "sexual fetish" if I mean fetishes in general I'll say "fetishes"
It's the same deal with people going "Fuck, you don't like!.." When you say "It looks okay" - If I say "Okay" I mean okay and not something else. You're the one twisting it.

And to answer your question. Because my thoughts on fetishes was what started this thread. Not just "attractions" A fetish is generally defined by an 'unusual' attraction to an object, action, scenario etc. Be it sexual or not.
I originally used "fetish" because I wanted the general idea of being attracted to something and not just the sexual attractions or just the non-sexual attractions.
 

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I'd say it's quite simple. A sexual fetish is a fetish which you are attracted to, sexually. A 'normal' fetish is an attraction. You could say a historian has a history fetish, or a gamer has a video-game fetish and so forth. At least in my opinion.


It seems the way they describe fetish implies "something which renders another thing powerless". I think fetish carries over into desire nicely. I have no qualms with that. A desire is an emotional or sexual attraction(sexual being a part of emotional is another topic).

But then why bother calling it a fetish at all, most people associate the word fetish with a sexual attraction. If you insist on using a word like that and not defining what you mean clearly it only complicates and confuses things.
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This was my initial perspective. Of course, popular consensus is always "right" and definitions change. It's the way language works.

Overall, it seems "fetish" has been used long before it's use to describe sexual attraction. I retract my initial claim.
 

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Sexual fetishes require that the thing so desired is necessary to enjoy/orgasm, whether actually there or simply imagined.
I may have to disagree with you on that argument. If you are stating that the person cannot "enjoy" without that fetish, I can argue.

I honestly have no idea where mine came from at all. It was just sort of there since I was 5 years old. Yes, it fascinated me from the age of 5. I did not know about sex at the time (obviously), but I knew I was drawn to it. It did not turn into a "Lightbulb" until I hit puberty. In my case, I can have enjoyment from either the fetish, or just plain sexual attraction as boring and original as it may be.
 

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I'm sorry, the definition has seemed to change in the past ten years, Or my memory simply isn't that good from ten years ago. It's only a problem if it's necessary for enjoyment.
 

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I have been thinking of something. It's kind of a half question half theory.
It might be a silly question, but I've been grinding my mind to figure out this one.

Fetishes. Any kind, doesn't HAVE to be a sexual one, as far as I'm concerned

Take balloon fetish (obvious choice)
Is one born with this fetish? I mean, can you grow up without knowing about balloons and then when you finally see one, does that fetish manifest itself, from it's saved spot in your brain? So to speak.

Or, does the fetish simply develop when one sees and interact with a balloon?

This question obviously, applies to all kinds of fetishes. Not only balloons.
Keep that in mind when you reply!
It might already have been resolved and answered, in a book written 50 years ago.


Though, I am still looking forward to reading your theories. =)

Hi, what's poppin?

Fetishes are often sexually tinted since a fetish may bring someone into a higher state of arousal leaving aside the underlying benefactors of any kind.
To answer your question abouy the abillity of growing a fetish for balloons (in this case) without knowing about the existance of balloons.
I would say, yes & no .. If the existance of balloons is not there it may well happen a possible fetish wont grow .. It is also possible that a fetish may grow onto something else rather then balloons (if the existence of balloons does not exist).
I saw a moviebit yesterday from a guy that has a balloon fetish on mentalzero.com
Maybe you may want to check it out.
http://www.mentalzero.com/Weirdo-Is-Sexually-Attracted-To-Popping-Balloons-2446.html

As you can see, is his fetish involved with sexual arousal.

Good luck.
 

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Hi, what's poppin?

Fetishes are often sexually tinted since a fetish may bring someone into a higher state of arousal leaving aside the underlying benefactors of any kind.
To answer your question abouy the abillity of growing a fetish for balloons (in this case) without knowing about the existance of balloons.
I would say, yes & no .. If the existance of balloons is not there it may well happen a possible fetish wont grow .. It is also possible that a fetish may grow onto something else rather then balloons (if the existence of balloons does not exist).
I saw a moviebit yesterday from a guy that has a balloon fetish on mentalzero.com
Maybe you may want to check it out.
http://www.mentalzero.com/Weirdo-Is-Sexually-Attracted-To-Popping-Balloons-2446.html

As you can see, is his fetish involved with sexual arousal.

Good luck.

Again, "fetish" does not equal sexual arousal, alot of people seem to think that. But that aside, your idea is interesting!


And good luck? Good luck with what? Hehe. When I mentioned balloons, I wasn't trying to say that I have such a fetish. I don't really think I have one, not that I know of.
 

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Thank you Lobstrich.
Good luck with your research is what i meant. ;)
Not sure but i do believe that many people are pre-destined to have an animate or inanimate fetish since birth.. The only thing required is the trigger and i'm not sure if it correlates to changes in a human itself as they grow older, their habits or preferences may change .. making it possible that they stumble on a that trigger that triggers a fetish.
I do also wonder where certain types of criminals go astray with their type of fetish that makes them go of the track..... Read up about Anatoly Slivko and his inanimate fetish for children shoes, children and killing them.
Anatoly Slivko is one of the most cruel ***** in old Soviet history but a source of information when it comes to study human behaviour and maybe it can help you in your research about fetishes. ;)

I never said you have a fetish, and if you don't have one .. It may happen at a later age.

Do you use any type of messenger?
 
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