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'Bout time I made this thread.

So, I'm reading (after having it recommended to me multiple times) Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time series; and it's really, really great. Such a detailed world, with rich cosmology etc.; it's pretty hard to describe unless you've read it.
The fact that I only just (and by this I mean last year - I only ever really read in bed and when performing discreet bodily functions) started reading them makes me feel like I've been missing out. Has anyone read any other good fantasy series (or one-off novels) they could recommend?
 

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Try Dragonlance.
I will try The Wheel of Time :D
 

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Could you recommend any in particular? There seem to be upwards of 150 of them, unless Wikipedia's list is deceptive.
 

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I had a book of short stories called Xiccarph by Clark Ashton-Smith which was one of my influences. Unfortunately, not all the books by this author are up to this standard as he had to write rubbishy stories for cash under a pseudonym After his death these cruddy works went under his own name.
 

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With no other light than that of the four diminutive moons of Xiccarph, each in a different phase but all decrescent, Tiglari had crossed the bottomless swamp of Soorm, wherein no reptile dwelt & no dragon descended -- but where the pitch-black ooze was alive with continual heavings & writhings. He had carefully avoided the high causey of white corundum that spanned the fen, & had threaded his way with infinite peril from isle to sedgy isle that shuddered gelatinously beneath him. When he reached the solid shore & the shelter of the palm-tall rushes, he was equally careful to avoid the pale porphyry stairs that wound heavenward through dizzy nadir-cleaving chasms & along glassy scarps to the ever-mysterious & terrible house of Maal Dweb. The causey & the stairs were guarded by those that he did not wish to meet: the silent, colossal iron servitors of Maal Dweb, whose arms ended in long crescent blades of tempered steel which were raised in implacable scything against any who came thither without their master's permission.
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The Dragonlances are great, but frankly I loved

Roger Zelazny's chronicles of Amber.

I did nothing but read them once I picked them up. I couldn't close the book until I had finished the last page, and then I had to go out an borrow, steal, or buy the next one...

Merlin/Corwin FTW!
 

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I'm not much of a reader, but my friends who like fantasy have pretty much unanimously told me that The Wheel of Time series is their favorite (and my friends don't even know each other, so it actually was individual opinion).

Anyway, I asked one of them (who loved the Wheel of Time) what I should read if I wanted to try to get into it, and he told me that A Game of Thrones (George R.R. Martin) was amazing too. I read it and thoroughly enjoyed it all the way through... although it didn't hook me on reading. It runs primarily on character development and political intrigue, telling each chapter from a differen't character's point of view. Very complicated, but a fantastic book.
 

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Hmm. I may try reading The Wheel of Time at some point.

Discworld, anybody?
 

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Don't get me wrong, Jordan is fine and all. WoT is a great story, with lots of laughs, surprises, and a plot line that makes my head hurt (in a good way). But I grew up reading the first few books in high school and as I've grown older, I've become less enthused as each book is released. It's too long and much of books 6-10 is rather superfluous.

I like reading fantasy and am always on a search for the "next big epic". Unfortunately, that means I've also read a fair share of badly written...crap. However, one advantage of that experience is that I've learned both a healthy bit of skepticism and the kinds of things that really titillate the INTP psyche. It is with that experience that I heartily recommend my favorite (fantasy) author of the last decade, Michelle West.

A female fantasy author - don't they just write sappy romance or modern vampire novels catering to young teenage girls? Well, some of them do. Some of them are even good at it. However, Michelle West has written under a couple of different pen names with a variety of styles. Here's a quick list:


Michelle West
Hunter's Oath/Death (duology)
Sun Sword (series of 6 books, set in the same universe of Hunter's)
The House War (series of 4 books, the first recently published, same universe as Hunter's)

Michelle Sagara
Cast series (series of 5 books, 4 published)

Michelle Sagara West
Sundered series (4 books) reprinted


If you're looking for epic fantasy on par with Martin or (dare I say) Jordan, then check out the books by Michelle West. Her prose can sometimes drift into the ostentatious, but it's subtle, sophisticated, and guaranteed to draw you in. The reader is *not* omniscient and there is no tell-all exposition that makes you feel like you've been spoon fed the plot. It has taken me several readings of the series to pick up all the nuance and history and there is still a lot more story to be written. Her books tend to be quite lengthy - but they *are* complete - and the series do actually resolve the main plots. Although the series could be read in any order, my suggestion would be as listed.

The Cast series by Michelle Sagara, is more of a twist on the modern police beat serial. It follows a single female protagonist who is often involved with solving a set of crimes/mysteries, although the story takes place in a fantasy setting. The novels themselves are more self-contained, but there is enough historical perspective and behind the scene machinations to maintain a sense of continuity. The pace is (obviously) much more frenetic and the mood at times quite lighthearted.

And finally, the Sundered series are Michelle's earliest works. They are a dark, often depressing account of a rather literal war between "darkness" and "light", and their avatars. It has some romantic elements, but purely on an intellectual level.
 

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Hmm. I may try reading The Wheel of Time at some point.

Discworld, anybody?


HELL YES!!! and knowing Terry's medical condition right now makes me so so sad
 

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True, Martin's a great author. As are Zelazny (Jack of Shadows was awesome), Frank Herbert (The Dune books he wrote were awesome, especially 'Dune'), etc. On the other hand, IMO, nobody can match Dunsany.
 

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I've been considering reading A Companion to Wolves by Sarah Monette and Elizabeth Bear, partly due to judging books by their covers, partly due to it containing homoerotica, and partly due to having heard a good (not brilliant, but good) review. Additionally, I've read a lot of good things about other books Sarah Monette's written.

At best I'm hoping it'll be an engaging fantasy novel, at worst I'm hoping it'll be engaging for, uh, other reasons.

Has anyone read it? If so, what's it like?
 

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Might I recommend the work of early twentieth century author Lord Dunsanyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Dunsany His works are quote beautiful and a good number can be found online in places like project gutenburg.
 

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I'm another Zelazny fan, Home is the Hangman (from My Name Is Legion) being my favourite. (Though I doubt it fits the criteria for fantasy)

Early in my teenage years I read The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever by Stephen R. Donaldson. I can't think of any better fantasy I've read since.

The Chronicles are so superb, especially the first three, because we are so much in the mind of Thomas Covenant - a lead character, social outcast, misanthrope, who absolutely refuses to believe in the reality of the fantasy world around him, even though he is chosen to be it's defender. Even though this other Earth embraces him with all it's need as much as the Earth of his origin rejects him with all of it's revulsion.

It's a monumental psychological fantasy of so much more depth than the typical hero-quest fodder.

(Dare I suggest Thomas is an INTP?)
 

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I NEED to go read that... it sounds intriguing!!!
 

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Because it's so great I must recommend A Song of Ice and Fire once more. Besides: Artemis Fowl series and Bartimaeus Trilogy.
If you're more for bloody and erotic Halfway to the Grave and the following aren't bad.
 

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Hmmm, I read the Bartimaeus Trilogy and have to add that never before have footnotes ever been more entertaining than the book itself. ... which is not a slur on the books at all, by the way.

Has anyone here ever read the Lord of the Rings Trilogy before? It's not very well known, but it's a great series! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_rings

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I'd have to put Tolkien at the top of my list in the following order:
The Silmarillion
The Lord of the Rings
The Hobbit

I just finished reading A Wizard of Earthsea (recommended by Ogion) and I loved it. I'm looking forward to reading the rest of the series.

I would also recommend A Canticle for Leibowitz. It's sort of a mash between SF and Fantasy, but it's very good.

Robert Jordan didn't impress me. I read the first book of the Wheel of Time, and though I found it to be entertaining, it struck me as shamelessly derivative of Tolkien, and the characters too closely resembe fantasy archetypes. I guess I wouldn't mind reading it again, or more of the series, but I wouldn't really call it "quality" literature.

I read several Forgotten Realms books about Drizzt by R. A. Salvator, and found them mildly amusing, but they're more or less commercially produced D&D fan fic. Oh well. If you have nothing else to read...

Of course, we can't forget C. S. Lewis. Some of my favorites are:
The Space Trilogy
The Chronicles of Narnia
Till We Have Faces

Oh, and there's Lewis' mentor, George McDonald, who wrote things like:
Lilith
Fantastes
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Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series is brilliant. One of the books really mirrors Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead in a philosophical sense.
 

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As far as Dragonlance goes, I thought Legends (Time, Test and War of the Twins, not necessarily in that order because I always mix them up) were better than Chronicles; Weis and Hickman were more in their stride as authors there. And every Dragonlance fan alive loves Raistlin, so they must be good. ;) My favorites from that series are easily Doom Brigade and Draconian Measures.

I would recommend the Death Gate Cycle. Also by Weis and Hickman.

Am I the only person who didn't like Lord of the Rings? Maybe I'm just over-impatient, but the text rambled and dragged too much for my tastes. (If anyone knows what the point of including Tom Bombadil was, please, GOD, enlighten me.)
 

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Dragonlance was good, I read the chronicles. It just wasn't my cup of tea I suppose. Nothing against the books though. Raistlin is awesome though, I must add.

The Alvin Maker series by Orson Scott Card was good. The best fantasy/historical fiction out there. Also by Card is his standalone novel Enchantment. It's of a different flavor than the Ender series, but very good nevertheless.

@Sagewolf - Tom Bombadil is God. Or, more specifically, Ilúvatar. Except that no one knows for sure. I just happen to like that particualar theory.
 

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Actually, Tom Bombadil was a left-over from Tolkien's bedtime stories for his kids, and he always regretted including him in the Middle-Earth universe. Tolkien also thought he made no sense, so... :p
 

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Xiccarph by Clark Ashton-Smith is special. Seven Steps to Satan by Abraham Merritt is real life fantasy.
 

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Actually, Tom Bombadil was a left-over from Tolkien's bedtime stories for his kids, and he always regretted including him in the Middle-Earth universe. Tolkien also thought he made no sense, so... :p

Ah. Well, I forgive him that, then. It's not as if I think they're not good, i just think they're not as good as most people seem to think they are.
 

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Hmmm, I read the Bartimaeus Trilogy and have to add that never before have footnotes ever been more entertaining than the book itself. ... which is not a slur on the books at all, by the way.

Has anyone here ever read the Lord of the Rings Trilogy before? It's not very well known, but it's a great series! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_rings

</sarcasm>

Yes I particularly liked the use of footnotes in the first book. I could never get into the second book however...

LOTR isn't very well known indeed! They should make a movie out of it...

Ah. Well, I forgive him that, then. It's not as if I think they're not good, i just think they're not as good as most people seem to think they are.

I agree, the flooding of descriptive words is a nightmare to wade through. I usually just skip over half of the description anyway. The writing style of modern fantasy authors suits me far better :)

Currently I'm reading the Hythrun Chronicles, by Jennifer Fallon. It's great so far :)
 

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With no other light than that of the four diminutive moons of Iccarph, each in a different phase but all decrescent, Biglari had crossed the bottomless swamp of Storm, wherein no reptile dwelt & no dragon descended --
http://www.violetbooks.com/REVIEWS/rockhill-cas.html

This was written before LSD was invented. I would not be surprised if the writer imbued some hallucinogenic (then legal during Prohibition) herbs ?
 

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Then there is the Sore Dragon:

But strange and peculiar things can happen in the night. Yikes! there are ghosts around. The cupboard beneath the stairs began to creak alarmingly. And then this creeping pitter-patter of feet. it was a sound that didn't come from human feet. What strange creatures roamed in the early hours of the morning?
A black mark appeared on the carpet. and another one, and more and more all .the way up the stairs. They have only got four toes. These are Goblin feet. There are Goblins in the house!
'Where is B ? Where is B ? B has gone away! The horrible Goblins have captured her. They have taken her away. What are we going to do?' 'We had better tell the King.' said A . 'Where does he live?' 'He lives in the castle by the sea.'
A went off to see the King. 'The Goblins have taken B away.' 'Oh dear,' replied the King. 'They must have taken her to Devil's Dyke; a horrible place where Goblins live in holes, and owls screech in the woods. There are wild dogs and bugbears, and ghastly old crones that live there too.' The King and his Royal Court began to talk earnestly amongst themselves. 'With all of my men and all of my horses we will never get her out of there alive. What are we going to do?'
The King looked over the sea and began to pray. Suddenly, the waters began to churn and froth and bubble. What a strange sight. A Dragon has appeared! It is the good water Dragon from the Sore. What a fantastic sight!

http://soredragon.blogspot.com/2008/06/sore-dragon.html
 

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I am halfway through The Dragon Reborn, the third book of the Wheel of Time series. I must say I find this series quite overhyped. My biggest problem with it is that the characters are dreadfully bland and uninteresting. Once I'm done with this book, and At Swim-Two-Birds, and Needful Things, I'll start reading Gardens of the Moon by Steven Erikson. From what I have heard, the Malazan Book of the Fallen series will be a better alternative for me.
 

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It gets better, I promise. Rand gets increasingly dark, and don't you like Verin Sedai?


I'm still mad at rand for not shacking up with lanfear. They could have ruled all of creation!

A song of fire and ice is my current favorite series...my only issue with it is that they don't focus on my two favorite characters(bran and arya) enough. The belgariad is still one of my favorites series because it was one of the first books I read and I found the blatant stereotyping comforting. I'm pretty sure it inspired my obsession with immortality.
 

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Tad Williams is worth reading

RA Salvatore so so

MZ Reichert

Kate Elliot ++

George R. R. Martin (kinda dark)

G. G. Kay (Tigana)

Some of Alan Dean Foster's stuff is OK

I lke Feist (Rift War saga), C. J. Cherryh, Piers Anthony and last but not least Ray Bradbury (Something Wicked This Way Comes)
 

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I like Brandon Sanderson's writing. He's the author of the quote in my signature. He's pretty new, Elantris was his first book.
 

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The Ghormenghast series by Mervyn Peak is good if you care about language more than action.
 

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Robin Hobb is an excellent fantasy writer, I've only read the Farseer Trilogy so far but I really enjoyed it. There is a great deal of depth to the characters and a strong sense of detail to the environments.

Gene Wolf's books are also exceptional.
 

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Robin Hobb is an excellent fantasy writer, I've only read the Farseer Trilogy so far but I really enjoyed it. There is a great deal of depth to the characters and a strong sense of detail to the environments.

Gene Wolf's books are also exceptional.

Read The Tawny Man trilogy by Robin Hobb, as it continues where the Farseer Trilogy left off.

I've been reading George R. R. Martin's books, and I'm right at the end of the second book at the moment. I would be a much happier person if I could spend all day reading rather than writing essays for uni.

I'd recommend the books of these authors to everyone interested in fantasy (in no particular order): Robin Hobb, Sara Douglass, George R R Martin, Raymond E Feist, Jennifer Fallon, Fiona McIntosh, and more but I can't remember names right this second :)

On my to-do list are: the rest of George R R Martin's books (can't possibly stop now that I've started), Robert Jordan's books possibly, and a few others that I got a week ago which looked interesting.

Reading fantasy is my favourite way to escape reality, and by far my best and most trusty way to procrastinate doing my assignments and essays. Three cheers for fantasy!
 

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I'm heading to my grandmother's house this Friday overnight to read A Feast of Crows by George R R Martin. The house is rather big, and old, but it has a rather 'warm' atmosphere, and it's perfect for reading! It's basically my favourite place to read at, from the early evening to the morning. I rarely get a chance to go there overnight, so I'm really looking forward to it.
 

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Read A Feast for Crows, which was great, but not as good as the previous three books (I imagine they would be hard to equal however).

Also read Royal Exile by Fiona McIntosh, which was good.

Currently reading the Demon Child trilogy by Jennifer Fallon (sequel to the Hythrun Chronicles), almost finished the second book. It's excellent.
 

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I heartily recommend Sara Douglass' eleven-volume epic beginning with the Axis trilogy, then the Wayfarer Redemption trilogy, the Darkglass Mountain trilogy and Threshhold and Beyond the Hanging Wall.

I picked up the first of the Axis trilogy from the shelves of my local public library on spec, enjoyed it and have read through all the rest but one (to be released in 2010).

I could hardly put the Darkglass Mountain books down, but it's a huge help in understanding if you've followed the sequence through.
 

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The Black Company, by Glen Cook, was a favorite of mine though after a certain point it veers off of what made it great.
 
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Any of the original Robert E. Howard Conan stories are definitely worth reading , just make sure it's Howard you're reading and not one of the vultures who came along decades later to pick the meat off his literary bones. And just try as hard as you can not to picture a heavily oiled Arnold Schwarzenegger as the fearsome Cimmerian.

I'd also recommend Fritz Leiber's tales of Fafhrd & The Grey Mouser; Michael Moorcock's Elric saga; and, if you want to get really far out, Stephen King's Dark Tower cycle
 
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WoT is truly a great epic, fantastic characters in a detailed world...what more could you want out of a fantasy series (reading through it again, since the new book came out). A song of Ice and Fire is also amazing, pretty much my two favorite series right there.
 

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The historical fantasy trilogy: The Forests of Avalon, The Mists of Avalon and The Lady of Avalon, by Marion Zimmer Bradley.

"The best retelling of the Arthurian saga I have ever read. Completely compelling"
-Isaac Asimov.
 

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^ I enjoyed The Mists of Avalon very much and agree with the quoted opinion, but all three books together seem somehow repetitive (not in a repulsive way like many other authors, but still very similar to each other).

The Lies of Locke Lamora is a good one too.
 

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Read The Tawny Man trilogy by Robin Hobb, as it continues where the Farseer Trilogy left off.

Just don't read the back of the second book before reading th entirety of the first one. Not that there's a giant fscking spoiler or anything (thanks, various pulishers). :eek::mad::beatyou:

^Mists of avaloon was very good: I should read the other ones when I get the money to buy more books... Can't remember what the last really good fantasy I read was, though. I've read some, but not a lot was stuff I'd want to shout about.

For the sake of recommending something, I'll mention The Night Watch by ... a Russian author whose name I do not recall at the moment. I liked it quite a lot. Speaking of which... does anyone here know of any good modern/urban fantasy, or magical realism, they could recommend? It's hard to find stuff like that, I've recently noticed, when you look. Not like the genre in itself is minute, but it's not that large, and even then it's difficult to decide whether or not something's worth getting...
 

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I really liked Tolkien and read the trilogy and the Hobbit as a kid. I agree that it's heavily descriptive of the scenery while the characters are a bit...well...thin personality wise. I still enjoyed them immensely and that was long before they became movies and all the kiddies started wearing cloaks.

Andre Norton was my first venture into science fiction. I loved the characters and worlds she based her books on. She started getting published 1934 and I think her last book was published in 2003 (give or take a year). I also identified with her since she had to hide the fact that she was a women when she started. Women just didn't write science fiction back then and she was forced to have a nome de plume before the science fiction journals would take her seriously and publish her. A lot of her stuff seems a bit episodic because it was episodic. Most of her books were compilations of stuff she wrote for monthly publications. Anyway, Moon of Three Rings was my favorite. I think you can still find it used if you look around.

I also love most of Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover books. She has a whole world with a long long history carefully chronicled. I liked them much more than her Mists of Avalon series. I just couldn't get into them while I couldn't put down any of her various Darkover books. I would start with Exile's Song so that you can come into the world from the viewpoint of a complete newcomer. It's also good to start with Darkover Landfall since it concerns the first human colonists to land on Darkover. Bradley got bored easily and would jump around in time with these books so there are a few trilogies and there are a few singles. Don't feel like you have to read them in the order they were published. She started this series back in 1957 by the way so she finally had to pick a ghost writer. I don't know about the new books by the ghost writer but Bradley's original Darkover stuff is really good and despite the the large number of them they don't get repetitive. Her characters are inventive and her plots are well developed having been built in the the huge mass of history she's carefully built from previous books....Please don't get overwhelmed by my description. Just pick one of her books up and see what you think.

I've recently been interested in Rothfuss's Name of the Wind. It is the first book of a planned trilogy and I love the characters. I describe it as an excellent example of genre fantasy fiction. It's the usual coming of age story involving magic and a medieval setting but it's an example of such that goes far beyond the usual fluffy "yay he slayed the dragon and saved the princess" crap. I picked up the book at random one day and didn't put it down until I'd finished it an entire day later. It's got humor, grit, tragedy, beauty, poetry, and lots of excitement. I also like the way the author imagines magic. It's a bit different then usual.

Terry Pratchett. Someone was talking about footnotes being as good as the text itself. Mr. Pratchett is the master of the footnote. I love his Discworld novels and I've read every single one avidly. You can see him improve as an author as the series progresses. This is another group of novels that you don't have to read in order. There are several books in the Discworld series that are consecutively about particular groups of characters but you don't have to worry about reading any of them in order. I especially love the books about the Watch and the ones about the Witches. Also the Death books are wonderful and...well, I could keep going. Just read one of his books already! Hogfather is a good one to start on. Especially considering what time of year it is. Death as Santa Claus. 'Nuff said.

Ditto on Black Company books by Cook. Super gritty, bloody, profane, and creepy. Good stuff.

Robert Aspirin and Peirce Anthony are always good for a fluffy funny read. For some reason I can't quite explain my favorite Anthony is Golem in the Gears. My favorite for Aspirin is Myth Conceptions.

I enjoyed most of Anne Mccaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern trilogy. Some of her characters are bastards but I guess that's the sign of a good writer.

Now for a foray into young adult:

Hunger Games
anyone? Picture the US several centuries in the future in which the country is divided up into 11 poverty stricken districts and ruled by a dictator who lives in the extravagantly provided for district 1. At some point in the past there was a 13th district that had an uprising that was brutally put down. Now, as a memorial to this uprising, a boy and girl from each of the 12 districts are randomly chosen for the Hunger Games. Then they fight to the death in a giant arena! What's not to love? Catching Fire is the second book and there is a third book planned. I'm eagerly awaiting it.

The Inferior by Peadar O-Guilin is probably my favorite young adult novel (other than His Dark Materials of course). It involves a world in which everyone lives by eating each other. Yes, cannibalism. What's so fascinating about this book is how the author has created an entire culture out of cannibalism that is engaging and sympathetic. You don't hate the cannibals. You identify with them. Wonderful book with lots of gruesome detail and cut throat excitement. However, this is (I think) this author's first book and you can tell in certain sections that he is new to this. But it's still good despite a few rough sections.

His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman is very good and therefore my favorite young adult series. So detailed and carefully character driven that it's frankly a ball to read. There is a lot of stuff you could read as symbolism of some sort or you could just enjoy as interesting imagery. Also, it's a relief to read something that is not only irreverent but blatantly and intentionally profane towards the organized Christian religion.

Anyway, there are a few of my favorites.
 
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