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Elliot Rodger, the Supreme Gentleman and his mass shooting [split from Psychology of the beautiful g
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^ Obviously we need to solve these mental-social issues by imposing stricter bans on firearms, no guns no killing. Dude needed serious help that he didn't seem to get, but nothing will change because he's just another one to fall through the cracks.
^ Obviously we need to solve these mental-social issues by imposing stricter bans on firearms, no guns no killing. Dude needed serious help that he didn't seem to get, but nothing will change because he's just another one to fall through the cracks.
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Re: Psychology of the beautiful gyal.
Supreme gentleman, sophisticated, dresses nice, 300 dollar Giorgio Armani sunglasses, yet still 2/10
[bIMG]https://i.imgur.com/vMExgMZ.jpg[/bIMG]
Supreme gentleman, sophisticated, dresses nice, 300 dollar Giorgio Armani sunglasses, yet still 2/10
[bIMG]https://i.imgur.com/vMExgMZ.jpg[/bIMG]
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Re: Psychology of the beautiful gyal.
What made him a 2/10 instead of 1/10? Was it his sexual charisma?
What made him a 2/10 instead of 1/10? Was it his sexual charisma?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFAt3ChOsuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o1nFYTVyGU
Why you made him into a murderer, beautiful blondes, why?!?!
Why you girls didn't give sex to this sophisticated, magnificent, BMW-driving, polite, fabulous, gorgeous ultimate gentleman?!
HE DESERVED GIRLS MORE THAN THE BRUTES! SUCH AN INJUSTICE!
DAMN YOU, HOT BEAUTIFUL GIRLS, DAMN YOU. YOUR SEXUAL ATTRACTION IS FLAWED!
HE EVEN SPENT 300 BUCKS ON GIORGIO ARMANI SHADES, YOU UNGRATEFUL CUNTS! THREE-FUCKING-HUNDRED. AND YOU GIRLS STARVED HIM OF PLEASURE AND FUN FOR HIS ENTIRE YOUTH!
He was such a nice guy... Why didn't you give him a chance??!
This world...
so twisted...
so cruel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFAt3ChOsuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o1nFYTVyGU
Why you made him into a murderer, beautiful blondes, why?!?!
Why you girls didn't give sex to this sophisticated, magnificent, BMW-driving, polite, fabulous, gorgeous ultimate gentleman?!
HE DESERVED GIRLS MORE THAN THE BRUTES! SUCH AN INJUSTICE!
DAMN YOU, HOT BEAUTIFUL GIRLS, DAMN YOU. YOUR SEXUAL ATTRACTION IS FLAWED!
HE EVEN SPENT 300 BUCKS ON GIORGIO ARMANI SHADES, YOU UNGRATEFUL CUNTS! THREE-FUCKING-HUNDRED. AND YOU GIRLS STARVED HIM OF PLEASURE AND FUN FOR HIS ENTIRE YOUTH!
He was such a nice guy... Why didn't you give him a chance??!
This world...
so twisted...
so cruel...
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Re: Psychology of the beautiful gyal.
Singlehood was the least of this guy's worries. That was an expensive pair of shades though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFAt3ChOsuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o1nFYTVyGU
Why you made him into a murderer, beautiful blondes, why?!?!
Why you girls didn't give sex to this sophisticated, magnificent, BMW-driving, polite, fabulous, gorgeous ultimate gentleman?!
HE DESERVED GIRLS MORE THAN THE BRUTES! SUCH AN INJUSTICE!
DAMN YOU, HOT BEAUTIFUL GIRLS, DAMN YOU. YOUR SEXUAL ATTRACTION IS FLAWED!
HE EVEN SPENT 300 BUCKS ON GIORGIO ARMANI SHADES, YOU UNGRATEFUL CUNTS! THREE-FUCKING-HUNDRED. AND YOU GIRLS STARVED HIM OF PLEASURE AND FUN FOR HIS ENTIRE YOUTH!
He was such a nice guy... Why didn't you give him a chance??!
This world...
so twisted...
so cruel...
Singlehood was the least of this guy's worries. That was an expensive pair of shades though.
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I read his manifesto and I dare to say this nice guy doesn't knew women can make sex for money.
He could be able to have a plenty of good sex with half of money spent in that car, guns and stuff.
Just $100 and all problems could be solved.
Women can be very cruel but some of them can give you paradise with a few bucks.
Sadly he seems to be an Intp.
I read his manifesto and I dare to say this nice guy doesn't knew women can make sex for money.
He could be able to have a plenty of good sex with half of money spent in that car, guns and stuff.
Just $100 and all problems could be solved.
Women can be very cruel but some of them can give you paradise with a few bucks.
Sadly he seems to be an Intp.
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Why?
He isn't that bad looking. But it is all a matter of preference. I wish I looked like him. At 22, I didn't look so hot. At 22, I was a virgin. And at 23. And at 24. And at 25. And at 26. And at 27. And when I finally had a mental breakdown and got suicidally depressed, all I had was an illegal, fake gun.
But I still took it to my shrink-in-training, fired it at her stomach in self-loathing and confusion, high on Paxil, that totally removed my impulse control.
Had that been a real gun... I feel rather connected to this young man. Although he comes across as narcissistic, that might just be compensation for the fact he is so lonely, yet feels he isn't repulsive and should be able to have a girl like him, approach him, maybe flirt with him.
I understand his thinking. There you are, you have so much to give and share and no girl seems interested.
There is this football player from South America. He is the most ugly looking mofo you could possible imagine, his face looks like a rat face. But on his arm is this gorgeous looking foto-model like beauty. What does she see in him? That face hovers above you as he fucks you? And you are not throwing up? Or is his money that good, like Tina Turner sings "you keep your eye on the money, keeping your eyes on the wall."
I wondered these things myself. It is these psychopaths that get the nicest girls. Because like my psychologist explained, they don't give a fuck and play a numbers game. They don't feel devastated by a 'no' because they don't feel emotions like normal people do. So they enter a bar and check what women give a glance. And they systematically approach them. And if it is 'not interested, go away', fine. They ,move onto the next. And statistics what it is, one of them will come with them and they have her. Maybe she was just wet for his looks, or had too much alcohol. He doesn't care.
And if he satisfies her enough, she might be the blond girl this dude sees walking with some ugly mofo.
Then again, maybe this douche with his 22 year old beard and the town t-shirt and worn jeans is actually a utterly awesome dude and a prize to all women. You cannot tell.
But when I was 22 I didn't feel that entitled myself. I felt insecure, whereas this dude felt entitled. I told myself I should not be THAT bad. But no woman ever looked at me with any sort of interest.
I understand him. Even when you say that at this age range girls are shallow, that is fine, but they are shallow with any asshole to spread their legs.
Maybe it is a radar thing. If a guy is insecure, even though he drives a BMW and presents himself with some style, they stay away. In essence, girls do create mental cases of some vulnerable men. It may be society, age related shallowness, culture, advertising...anything you like, but the fact is, the way people deal with each other affects other people. We are all in the same boat.
And it is sad that society as it is seems to be laid out in such a way that it follows patterns of neglect. If this guy had had one kiss from a girl he might not have suffered so much.
So are readily available guns the issue? Partially. But the root here is a person is somehow shut out by his peers, cannot seem to connect to people, becomes lonely and isolated, event hough he tries and he becomes desperate.
Most people will hate him and judge him but not me. I just feel sorry for him because he was that lonely. I have been lonely all my life. I had a relationship after 28 but only because I was so high on Paxil that I could connect to the ladies at the loony bin when I was hospitalized after my gun violence. That was a tragedy, a hysterical impulse breakthrough, as shrinks call it. I am just lucky my society ha such restrictions on gun possession. I never want to use SSRI's again! So I met my ex in the loony bin and kind of slide slowly into a relationship after being friends and she called me up to walk her dogs and stuff like that. And the only reason she gave me time of day was because I was the ultimate guy.
Because I was a virgin, totally safe, while her ex partner always cheated on her. So she could trust me. For me to get a woman I apparently have to go totally mental and walk a fine line between impulse breakthrough on an SSRI antidepressant and meeting girls, trying not to murder anyone on it and expressing my undying devotion to a woman.
RIP Elliot, I might join you soon. No I am not gonna kill anyone, maybe only myself.
Cause life is useless without love. And some of us are not quite capable to handle it. And even though I did for 28 years, I really don't want to go through such pain again.
Why?
He isn't that bad looking. But it is all a matter of preference. I wish I looked like him. At 22, I didn't look so hot. At 22, I was a virgin. And at 23. And at 24. And at 25. And at 26. And at 27. And when I finally had a mental breakdown and got suicidally depressed, all I had was an illegal, fake gun.
But I still took it to my shrink-in-training, fired it at her stomach in self-loathing and confusion, high on Paxil, that totally removed my impulse control.
Had that been a real gun... I feel rather connected to this young man. Although he comes across as narcissistic, that might just be compensation for the fact he is so lonely, yet feels he isn't repulsive and should be able to have a girl like him, approach him, maybe flirt with him.
I understand his thinking. There you are, you have so much to give and share and no girl seems interested.
There is this football player from South America. He is the most ugly looking mofo you could possible imagine, his face looks like a rat face. But on his arm is this gorgeous looking foto-model like beauty. What does she see in him? That face hovers above you as he fucks you? And you are not throwing up? Or is his money that good, like Tina Turner sings "you keep your eye on the money, keeping your eyes on the wall."
I wondered these things myself. It is these psychopaths that get the nicest girls. Because like my psychologist explained, they don't give a fuck and play a numbers game. They don't feel devastated by a 'no' because they don't feel emotions like normal people do. So they enter a bar and check what women give a glance. And they systematically approach them. And if it is 'not interested, go away', fine. They ,move onto the next. And statistics what it is, one of them will come with them and they have her. Maybe she was just wet for his looks, or had too much alcohol. He doesn't care.
And if he satisfies her enough, she might be the blond girl this dude sees walking with some ugly mofo.
Then again, maybe this douche with his 22 year old beard and the town t-shirt and worn jeans is actually a utterly awesome dude and a prize to all women. You cannot tell.
But when I was 22 I didn't feel that entitled myself. I felt insecure, whereas this dude felt entitled. I told myself I should not be THAT bad. But no woman ever looked at me with any sort of interest.
I understand him. Even when you say that at this age range girls are shallow, that is fine, but they are shallow with any asshole to spread their legs.
Maybe it is a radar thing. If a guy is insecure, even though he drives a BMW and presents himself with some style, they stay away. In essence, girls do create mental cases of some vulnerable men. It may be society, age related shallowness, culture, advertising...anything you like, but the fact is, the way people deal with each other affects other people. We are all in the same boat.
And it is sad that society as it is seems to be laid out in such a way that it follows patterns of neglect. If this guy had had one kiss from a girl he might not have suffered so much.
So are readily available guns the issue? Partially. But the root here is a person is somehow shut out by his peers, cannot seem to connect to people, becomes lonely and isolated, event hough he tries and he becomes desperate.
Most people will hate him and judge him but not me. I just feel sorry for him because he was that lonely. I have been lonely all my life. I had a relationship after 28 but only because I was so high on Paxil that I could connect to the ladies at the loony bin when I was hospitalized after my gun violence. That was a tragedy, a hysterical impulse breakthrough, as shrinks call it. I am just lucky my society ha such restrictions on gun possession. I never want to use SSRI's again! So I met my ex in the loony bin and kind of slide slowly into a relationship after being friends and she called me up to walk her dogs and stuff like that. And the only reason she gave me time of day was because I was the ultimate guy.
Because I was a virgin, totally safe, while her ex partner always cheated on her. So she could trust me. For me to get a woman I apparently have to go totally mental and walk a fine line between impulse breakthrough on an SSRI antidepressant and meeting girls, trying not to murder anyone on it and expressing my undying devotion to a woman.
RIP Elliot, I might join you soon. No I am not gonna kill anyone, maybe only myself.
Cause life is useless without love. And some of us are not quite capable to handle it. And even though I did for 28 years, I really don't want to go through such pain again.
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Nonsense. It isn't about sex, it is about love and adoration and intimacy and relationship. I could have gone to a prostitute, but that is not love. That is not waking up with a girl's hair in your face.
Nonsense. It isn't about sex, it is about love and adoration and intimacy and relationship. I could have gone to a prostitute, but that is not love. That is not waking up with a girl's hair in your face.
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Re: Psychology of the beautiful gyal.
I hope this isn't a derail but I think this guy would be a great subject for a thread.
INTJf is rather abuzz about the news.
It's strange that a poster here sees him as an INTP while another poster at INTJf sees him as one of the possible posters at their Gender and Attraction subforum.
I hope this isn't a derail but I think this guy would be a great subject for a thread.
INTJf is rather abuzz about the news.
It's strange that a poster here sees him as an INTP while another poster at INTJf sees him as one of the possible posters at their Gender and Attraction subforum.
EyeSeeCold
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Wow, one quick look over there and I see they've turned it into a sex problem.
Supportive relationships and intimacy are important to humans, including males. Why does it have to be that a guy is always/only after sex? That just makes it easy to call this mentally unstable person a cowardly loser, when sex was probably the last thing that could truly help him and prevent those people from getting murdered.
^ It's ridiculous how sex is so quick to be scrutinized. Why? It's been a normal function for living creatures for millions of years, and a normal part of human intimacy for centuries. Why is it so wrong to want it?
Wow, one quick look over there and I see they've turned it into a sex problem.
Supportive relationships and intimacy are important to humans, including males. Why does it have to be that a guy is always/only after sex? That just makes it easy to call this mentally unstable person a cowardly loser, when sex was probably the last thing that could truly help him and prevent those people from getting murdered.
^ It's ridiculous how sex is so quick to be scrutinized. Why? It's been a normal function for living creatures for millions of years, and a normal part of human intimacy for centuries. Why is it so wrong to want it?
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INTJ seems more likely.
Anyway, he appears to be a narcissist who never got his fix. This guy has to be admired in order to feel emotionally stable.
INTJ seems more likely.
Anyway, he appears to be a narcissist who never got his fix. This guy has to be admired in order to feel emotionally stable.
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Re: Psychology of the beautiful gyal.
Yeah my bet was on INTJ, I mean you could make a case for Fe but...
Yeah my bet was on INTJ, I mean you could make a case for Fe but...
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Are you thinking in suicide Variform?
You don't need to worry about death, it's the only thing you don't need to plan in life. It will come someday, meanwhile just enjoy the ride. We don't have any obligation in life, we can be just observers, it doesn't matter in the end.
Are you thinking in suicide Variform?
You don't need to worry about death, it's the only thing you don't need to plan in life. It will come someday, meanwhile just enjoy the ride. We don't have any obligation in life, we can be just observers, it doesn't matter in the end.
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That's an immature Fe, the last function to be developed in an INTP.
He's very very nostalgic too, immature Si too.
He created a very complex plan basead in a strong internal logic, Ti.
An INTJ would have paid a whore, using the obvious Te.
That's an immature Fe, the last function to be developed in an INTP.
He's very very nostalgic too, immature Si too.
He created a very complex plan basead in a strong internal logic, Ti.
An INTJ would have paid a whore, using the obvious Te.
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Re: Psychology of the beautiful gyal.
"I'm going to shoot those whores"
11/10 complexity
"I'm going to shoot those whores"
11/10 complexity
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Well, I'm talking about the worldview he created. The shooting plan was created out of an insulated Ne.
If you read his manifesto he's right about that kind of girls, he get exactly how the social dynamics of pretty-popular-college girls works. His Ti was very right but he did not had the skills of his others functions well developed.
He clearly have NPD too. An INTP with NPD and socially isolated can be very dangerous.
Well, I'm talking about the worldview he created. The shooting plan was created out of an insulated Ne.
If you read his manifesto he's right about that kind of girls, he get exactly how the social dynamics of pretty-popular-college girls works. His Ti was very right but he did not had the skills of his others functions well developed.
He clearly have NPD too. An INTP with NPD and socially isolated can be very dangerous.
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No opinions on his type, but very textbook case of narc
No opinions on his type, but very textbook case of narc
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Elliot Rodger?
Human Relationships or Psychology...oh the agony.
4:39+
I am actually...bemused.
Acknowledges that these things are his...opinions...
wat
...
I'm too bored for a full psychological breakdown, so I'm just...meandering.
I have had friends that seem to actually think like this.
"OMG why do girls LOVE douchebags??" <- actually, you can find this all over the web, reddit, here, anywhere.
Guys(?, some girls?) wondering why the opposite sex is attracted to someone that treats them..."inadequately" (in their opinion)
The very worst part is when one assumes that "I deserve something."
Wait, why did I bring this up? What's the topic of conversation? There's already a thread on gun control issues. Well, I was thinking primarily offering your opinions on his beliefs. Some here even seem to agree with him.
...I'm not attempting to promote sensationalism, but it seems various of our forumites have actually expressed sympathy towards him, so I'm just curious as to hearing the voices of the forum.
Human Relationships or Psychology...oh the agony.
4:39+
I am actually...bemused.
Acknowledges that these things are his...opinions...
wat
...
I'm too bored for a full psychological breakdown, so I'm just...meandering.
I have had friends that seem to actually think like this.
"OMG why do girls LOVE douchebags??" <- actually, you can find this all over the web, reddit, here, anywhere.
Guys(?, some girls?) wondering why the opposite sex is attracted to someone that treats them..."inadequately" (in their opinion)
The very worst part is when one assumes that "I deserve something."
Wait, why did I bring this up? What's the topic of conversation? There's already a thread on gun control issues. Well, I was thinking primarily offering your opinions on his beliefs. Some here even seem to agree with him.
...I'm not attempting to promote sensationalism, but it seems various of our forumites have actually expressed sympathy towards him, so I'm just curious as to hearing the voices of the forum.
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Right. A symptom of an entitled society - healthcare, welfare, taxation, equal rights, list goes on and all based on the initiation of force.
Right. A symptom of an entitled society - healthcare, welfare, taxation, equal rights, list goes on and all based on the initiation of force.
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Re: Psychology of the beautiful gyal.
INTJ most definitely.
INTJ most definitely.
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Re: Elliot Rodger?
Fictional scenario:
You are allowed to go back in time and visit Elliot at the golf course where he films his final video. You notice his window is down just far enough to reach inside.
Do you:
A. stick a handgun in there and shoot Elliot in the head?
or
B. stick a pressurized aerosol whip cream dispenser in his car, discharge it all over his face and clothes, steal his camera, and post the video?
Fictional scenario:
You are allowed to go back in time and visit Elliot at the golf course where he films his final video. You notice his window is down just far enough to reach inside.
Do you:
A. stick a handgun in there and shoot Elliot in the head?
or
B. stick a pressurized aerosol whip cream dispenser in his car, discharge it all over his face and clothes, steal his camera, and post the video?
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omg BG
I can understand where this guy comes from. I don't know why he would shoot a bunch of people up over it. I'm not much of a ladies man, and at a certain point you start to get frustrated. What is wrong with me? What is wrong with them? I'm a prize catch, who would be stupid enough to deny me? Those sorts of things start to go through ones head when they think they deserve sex/romance.
This guy was involved in a forum that was anti-POA. So instead of getting actual advice, he fed his anger in an ideological circle jerk. His poor social skill, helped to isolate him even more. He thought himself to be the truest of gentlemen. But he was just as chauvinistic, as the POAs he claimed to hate.
Anyone is capable of this kind of behavior when pushed to their edge, and don't check their logic. When one feels powerless and think they deserve power, they will take that power. What's more powerful than the power of life and death. The authority of judge, jury, and executioner.
This event was kind of a call back for me. Reminded me that I've thought too highly of myself, and not treating women equally. Need to learn to love more.
omg BG
I can understand where this guy comes from. I don't know why he would shoot a bunch of people up over it. I'm not much of a ladies man, and at a certain point you start to get frustrated. What is wrong with me? What is wrong with them? I'm a prize catch, who would be stupid enough to deny me? Those sorts of things start to go through ones head when they think they deserve sex/romance.
This guy was involved in a forum that was anti-POA. So instead of getting actual advice, he fed his anger in an ideological circle jerk. His poor social skill, helped to isolate him even more. He thought himself to be the truest of gentlemen. But he was just as chauvinistic, as the POAs he claimed to hate.
Anyone is capable of this kind of behavior when pushed to their edge, and don't check their logic. When one feels powerless and think they deserve power, they will take that power. What's more powerful than the power of life and death. The authority of judge, jury, and executioner.
This event was kind of a call back for me. Reminded me that I've thought too highly of myself, and not treating women equally. Need to learn to love more.
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Type shmype, he's a narcissist who lost his narcissistic supply of female approval and became so enraged that he lashed out. This event is sad not only because his emotional problems were excruciating and their results worse, but because were any of us so upset as he was, we might do something similar.
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Re: Psychology of the beautiful gyal.
Hmmmm... way too many reasons to list, yet not enough to make a "real" list, if you know what I mean........
Off the cuff:
"Look at my nice things, I bought these things to appeal to you" treating his clothes like they have a utilitarian purpose of being aesthetic... to me it's expression of Te and Se, with higher Te. He did not buy them to look nice, he bought them to look nice for a reason, because it will serve a purpose in his scheme.
His warped sense of justice... I have perceived this wrong and I believe I know how to make it right... it makes sense to him but not to observers really, that people should be killed due to his injustice,
Always professing to know the problem, puts himself most important, believes in himself, believes in his ways, thinks he knows how to fix the problem
Believes this will make him a god; as soon as people understand his perceptions he will be exalted; his crimes are not crimes at all
Specifically J - closing options off, deciding that he knows what he has seen and he believes he is correct, does not spontaneously create alternative points of view, does not imagine alternative points of view, acted on his impressions, steadfast
*TBH he reminds me of that character Montresor from the Poe story The Cask of Amontillado who I believe also is some kind of INTJ.
Hmmmm... way too many reasons to list, yet not enough to make a "real" list, if you know what I mean........
Off the cuff:
"Look at my nice things, I bought these things to appeal to you" treating his clothes like they have a utilitarian purpose of being aesthetic... to me it's expression of Te and Se, with higher Te. He did not buy them to look nice, he bought them to look nice for a reason, because it will serve a purpose in his scheme.
His warped sense of justice... I have perceived this wrong and I believe I know how to make it right... it makes sense to him but not to observers really, that people should be killed due to his injustice,
Always professing to know the problem, puts himself most important, believes in himself, believes in his ways, thinks he knows how to fix the problem
Believes this will make him a god; as soon as people understand his perceptions he will be exalted; his crimes are not crimes at all
Specifically J - closing options off, deciding that he knows what he has seen and he believes he is correct, does not spontaneously create alternative points of view, does not imagine alternative points of view, acted on his impressions, steadfast
*TBH he reminds me of that character Montresor from the Poe story The Cask of Amontillado who I believe also is some kind of INTJ.
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This is why we need feminism.
Dudebro feels entitled and insecure, so he hurts women. Also: guns.
Feminism can help men see their own privilege, and you know, recognize women as human beings, but it doesn't offer a lot on the topic of male insecurity. There doesn't seem to be any movement or ideology or whatever that discusses this.
Dudebro feels entitled and insecure, so he hurts women. Also: guns.
Feminism can help men see their own privilege, and you know, recognize women as human beings, but it doesn't offer a lot on the topic of male insecurity. There doesn't seem to be any movement or ideology or whatever that discusses this.
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Re: Psychology of the beautiful gyal.
*peeks over at the INTJf discussion of same topic*
*peeks over at the INTJf discussion of same topic*
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He could have gotten a slut or two, where's the big deal?
He seems mental, that would explain why he built his ideology on the sensor-standard.
Utter anihilation could be achieved by processes similar to disintegration or incineration, not by simple killing, there is no plan or method to this.
How long will it take for people to go on a mass killing after a mcdonald price rise? How many such people already exist?
He seems mental, that would explain why he built his ideology on the sensor-standard.
Utter anihilation could be achieved by processes similar to disintegration or incineration, not by simple killing, there is no plan or method to this.
How long will it take for people to go on a mass killing after a mcdonald price rise? How many such people already exist?
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Re: Elliot Rodger?
What about the idea that most of these individuals have had a undiagnosed medical disorder left untreated/improperly or under the effects of SSRI's?
What about the idea that most of these individuals have had a undiagnosed medical disorder left untreated/improperly or under the effects of SSRI's?
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What the straw man?
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I found a few parts of the epilogue of the manifesto interesting.
I understand sympathy for the mentally unstable, but if you actually relate to this man... If his thoughts and mentality sound reasonable and his 'pain' and 'hardship' of not having sex made the death of six individuals understandable... I don't know, it makes me feel distinctly ill.
I understand sympathy for the mentally unstable, but if you actually relate to this man... If his thoughts and mentality sound reasonable and his 'pain' and 'hardship' of not having sex made the death of six individuals understandable... I don't know, it makes me feel distinctly ill.
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Those of you that relate to this guy, do you attempt to date women/men outside your league? It is easy to see that this guy was trying to go after women outside his league. He may have had money but money does not equal status in an area where everyone has money and is connected in Hollywood scene. The man had false confidence and people that do not have to settle for dates can instinctively figure this out. Dating is not a numbers game, being a player is a numbers game. He wanted to be a player and he wanted to have the social status that goes along with having the hot sorority girl. He didn't have anything the hot Sorority girl wanted.
A society of entitled people, where everyone thinks if I work hard enough I can be or have whoever I want.
A society of entitled people, where everyone thinks if I work hard enough I can be or have whoever I want.
Jennywocky
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Re: Psychology of the beautiful gyal.
Yeah, I'm a bitch sometimes, I know...alas.
Yeah, I can see a relationship there as well. Personal deficiencies and perceived slights are directed back at the people who refused to give the subject what he wanted, and bitterness/vengeance fantasies allow the subject to regain the upper hand in his mind and do not subside over time. It's not clear the victims are even aware that the subject has a vendetta or that they've done something worthy of ultimate punishment.
I'm capable of looking at things clinically, but I was feeling pretty sick to my stomach the more I read just these excerpts. Dehumanization, pure and simple -- and entitlement to women as fuck objects rather than people.
i'm not even sure how you would treat an individual who had declined into such a pervasively hostile mindset.
Why you made him into a murderer, beautiful blondes, why?!?!
Why you girls didn't give sex to this sophisticated, magnificent, BMW-driving, polite, fabulous, gorgeous ultimate gentleman?!
HE DESERVED GIRLS MORE THAN THE BRUTES! SUCH AN INJUSTICE!
DAMN YOU, HOT BEAUTIFUL GIRLS, DAMN YOU. YOUR SEXUAL ATTRACTION IS FLAWED!
HE EVEN SPENT 300 BUCKS ON GIORGIO ARMANI SHADES, YOU UNGRATEFUL CUNTS! THREE-FUCKING-HUNDRED. AND YOU GIRLS STARVED HIM OF PLEASURE AND FUN FOR HIS ENTIRE YOUTH!
He was such a nice guy... Why didn't you give him a chance??!
This world...
so twisted...
so cruel...
Yeah, I'm a bitch sometimes, I know...alas.
Yeah, I can see a relationship there as well. Personal deficiencies and perceived slights are directed back at the people who refused to give the subject what he wanted, and bitterness/vengeance fantasies allow the subject to regain the upper hand in his mind and do not subside over time. It's not clear the victims are even aware that the subject has a vendetta or that they've done something worthy of ultimate punishment.
I'm capable of looking at things clinically, but I was feeling pretty sick to my stomach the more I read just these excerpts. Dehumanization, pure and simple -- and entitlement to women as fuck objects rather than people.
i'm not even sure how you would treat an individual who had declined into such a pervasively hostile mindset.
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I wish the INTJs would just give up the name of the implicated member already.
Somebody fire a flaming arrow into their camp across the river.
Somebody fire a flaming arrow into their camp across the river.
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Why?
Anyone filled with anger at any group might lash out.A clinical trivium: he was not far from his original, narcissistic mindset but rather quite close because he never emotionally developed like almost everyone does. Treatment would have been extremely difficult because he was a 'man-child' who would have needed his ego defenses carefully removed and whatever they protected carefully cared for and re-defended with healthy mechanisms.
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I understand his frustrations but his plans? Hell no!
BTW, is it just me or does his laugh makes me really want to punch him?
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Why?
Because we're not all fucking lunatics. Although it seems you believe if you were that angry, you might do something similar.
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Here is the link to his manifesto.
Elliot Rodger, Santa Barbara mass shooting suspect, "My Twisted World" manifesto
Elliot Rodger, Santa Barbara mass shooting suspect, "My Twisted World" manifesto
Jennywocky
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Totally with you on this. I think it takes a certain type of mentality to lash out in this way (and a lot of "handing oneself over to one's bitterness/anger") in order to perform an act like this.
Otherwise it would be far more common, as I believe many people are capable of feeling angry, depressed, and/or frustrated. Very few people go on murder sprees.
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One would have to be a lunatic in order to be so upset as he was; therefore, were one of us so upset as he was, that one would be a lunatic.
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Jennywocky
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Nice circular logic there.
EyeSeeCold
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No, please don't assume that every male who has relationship frustrations/issues by necessity have psychopathic tendencies and outright blame evil women as he has expressed.
I can understand his frustrations, but his mental issues make him un-relateable as there is a disintegration of thought/judgment. I know very clearly where my difficulties lie and it has little to do with females, I've had at least a few opportunities for relationships in the past where a girl was showing interest but I've always been hesitant to take initiative, I know I wouldn't have any idea of what to do even if I did make a move.
I don't blame that on women, I don't blame anyone that other people are in relationships, but it's a fact of life to deal with which is sometimes frustrating. It's no different than any other life situation, occasionally it gets taken to extremes due to various factors, such as for Elliot Rodger.