Drugs

[snafupants]

Always wanted to do LSD but since the DEA closed down the Pickard/Apperson lab I question the potency as well as the quality of the material. That stuff is so tiny.

 

[Apotheosis]

DMT is as far as ive gotten with pretty extreme drugs...it was a pretty intense trip, which is indescrible, but very very good..

Were you to attempt to describe it, as clumsy as that description may be, how would you do so?

If the opportunity arose, I would try DMT. A few days ago, the Institute for Ethics & Emerging Technologies had an interesting article describing the bizarre "intelligences" people believe they experience under the influence of DMT, as if Joe Rogan's vids weren't reason enough to smoke some.

I don't indulge in weed very often. My drug of choice, at the moment, is alcohol.

 

[Kellhus]

As a college student (which I currently am), I've done my fair share of experimenting with the different drugs that sounded interesting/exciting. Both the legal (prescription) and illegal (come on) forms of drugs have found my fancy, and I guess I'm curious as to other INTPs drug usage. So, are you: experimental (one and done), occasional, frequent (I'd consider daily prescriptions frequent drug use, to clarify), or abstaining?

As of right now, I'm basically an occasional drug user. I smoke weed on a semi-regular basis and am probably what is known as a pot head. I'm not on any prescription drugs, however. Other than marijuana, I've tried a lot of drugs once, such as: ecstasy, acid, salvia and shrooms. I've done coke a few times, but I have no desire to try it again. I've also smoked opium and (gasp) tobacco! As for the prescription drugs, I've only taken Codeine for recreational use. I've heard good things about some of those legal drugs out there though..

Anyways, looking into the future I see my drug use deteriorating. I'll probably try shrooms a couple more times, and maybe acid once more. I don't plan on doing ecstasy or salvia ever again. Ecstasy was actually one of the better nights of my life, I know nothing will ever compare to that, so it's pointless to even try and recreate it. Salvia was the strongest, most bizarre and terrifying hallucinogen I've done. I assume as soon as I have kids I'll stop smoking, or at least until they're old enough to understand it. It sucks the drug is illegal in most countries, but I've a hunch it'll be legalized soon enough. I also enjoy tea, coffee, and pop/soda (caffeine).

So, how about drugs and you?

Well, I'm an INTJ, but I'll talk about my besty, who is an INTP. He just got into pot a few weeks ago and can't get enough. He basically spends all day at home, smoking weed every hour or two. He also just got into DXM and Drinks about 2 bottles of cough syrup every now and then, generally leading to him having a bad trip, remembering little, and repeating. He's never smoked tobacco. That's about it.

 

[floccinaucci]

Hi, I'm flocci, and I'm a teetotaler. I hate alcohol, but I've tried a number of prescription drugs. adderall is one of my favorites, i clean my whole house on that stuff. Shrooms were the best, by far my favorite of all times, I recommend it if you wanna melt your brain. but I can say I'm a certified pot head. I love being high off weed. life's more enjoyable. and everything smells blue. Mary Jane has been with me longer than any other girl

 

[Crazythinker1]

I tried weed when I was in high school, but didn't get anything except the munchies. Alcohol makes me sick on my stomach, so that's out. As for the other stuff, I never really had the desire to try it. I was afraid that I would loose control and /or rationality and the mere thought of that scared me shitless. I do however, love caffeine and smoking my pipe from time to time.

 

[AlisaD]

I have this family curse or something, where we are all amazingly resistant to all kinds of drugs, so it really takes some work to have stuff work for me. Still, I do try:

Cigarettes - pretty much addicted, I can go without them, but driving without smoking is just no good
Caffeine - I like the taste and the ritual of drinking coffee, don't think it really does much for me other then provide me with a pleasant break from the daily rush
Alcohol -takes tons for me to feel anything, really. I enjoy hangovers though, they make me feel like something was actually happening the night before
Weed -depends on the mood, most of the time it effects me just as a mild relaxant
Hashish - tried it once, was very pleasant, but I'm not really sure was it because the circumstances were just perfect or is the drug so nice
Ecstasy - tried it twice - didn't really do much for me, maybe it was a bad shipment, or I just wasn't in the right mood, but I kind of gave up
Poppers - good for sex, boring otherwise
Speed - once, also quite pleasant, music sounded amazing, but no big adrenaline rushes and stuff
LSD - twice, it was a really small dose the first time, so it just made music nicer, I took a bit more the other time, and had great music and great company, so it was really a wonderful experience

I think that's it. Never had bad trips or negative experiences with drugs. Then again, I rarely have bad experiences with anything, so I would still like to try.... well - everything

 

[Methuselah]

I believe marijuana is a deeply medicinal substance. It helps heal the mind and the body.

I've known a lot of incredibly neurotic and annoying INXX's that would have been so much better off if they had smoked and mellowed out. I find that weed distances your ego from the worry/stress of your problems so you can evaluate them in a more impartial way. When it wears off, it is easier to tackle the hard stuff life throws at you.

I am sure I would have been locked in an asylum long before my thesis was finished if I hadn't smoked.

 

[babrock]

Personsly i am a big proponent of better living thru chemistry. There are costs to this decision tho. So long as one doesnot make anyone else pay these costs for them then it isnot anyone elses business.

My only other point currently is that personaly i think that two of t most commonly used drugs, alchohol and tobaco both fail misserably in any cost benifit analisis.

 

[mke2686]

lots n lots of weed... helps me understand my Fe side better

 

[ElderToadstool]

Everyone should do drugs.

Everyone.

 

[Moocow]

Everyone should do drugs.

Everyone.

Especially LSD.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I have an interesting problem with drugs. As a person with an insatiable mental curiosity I am drawn to the more psychoactive substances such as LSD and shrooms and marijuana to a lesser extent. The thing though is that I am far more interested in the theoretical and idealistic aspects of the nature of these drugs rather than the reality of actually purchasing, possessing and consuming them myself. This leads to me forming a very positive attitude towards the drug when I think about it but when it is placed in front of my face I become hesitant and speechless.

Another problem comes from the compartmentalization of my life. Because I hide certain aspects of my personality from different people with regards to my relationship with them, I tend to form contrasting moral codes and my integrity becomes distorted. I fear a negative reevaluation of my person by anyone and everyone who knows me. The only solution to this problem and what I intend to do is to get away from everyone I know and recreate my sense of morality and what I think is right or wrong. When I return, I will be fully present hiding no part of my personality to be truly authentic.

In short: No I've never done any drugs for recreation, though I like the idea of consuming psychedelic drugs. I am open to experimenting with drugs, but I do not want others to lower their value of me.

 

[Dansk]

Let's see...

Alcohol: Enjoyable in small amounts on a semi-regular basis, occasionally worth drinking large amounts in the right situation. Makes sex awful. Of everything I've tried it's definitely last on my list in terms of preference, but unfortunately first in social acceptance.

Marijuana: Highly entertaining. I spent most of my time in university as a pothead, smoking 3-4 times a week on average, depending on availability. I don't regret anything about it, I loved being high in every possible way, and it made sex FANTASTIC. I've stopped at the moment because I'm living in Korea, and I don't fancy a 3 year tour through an East Asian jail cell for possession.

Ecstasy: Did it twice. The first time was a disappointment, I barely got anything from the pill itself and had to smoke a joint to 'activate' it, so to speak. The second time I took two pills of some particularly strong stuff and spent seven hours playing bass until I started to come down and realized I had blisters on my fingers. Intense doesn't begin to describe it. A fun night, but not something I'm in a hurry to try again.

Salvia: A ridiculous amount of fun. The only time I've ever had genuine "I'm seeing things that aren't there" hallucinations. I've only been really high on it once, and as I exhaled it felt like I was falling back through the couch until my body was several stories below my feet. When I laid down, the ceiling turned greenish and developed some fascinating patterns, I was laying on a stone bed in a trippy crystalline garden full of frogs. I'd do it again in a heartbeat, it's particularly fun when you mix just a tiny amount into a joint. It makes for a slightly shroom-like high with mild visuals and a euphoric, giggly feeling.

Shrooms: Also a ridiculous amount of fun. I've done them four or five times, all of them unique and captivating in their own way. You don't know what it's like to be connected to nature until you've done shrooms, it's like the whole world suddenly comes alive in the most wonderful possible way. Trees become giant, stately creatures that flow and gyrate in hypnotic ways, I could spend a whole night doing nothing but tripping and staring at their leaves moving in the wind. I would give anything to do shrooms again, but the opportunity comes up so rarely.

 

[phial]

I smoke pot daily. It helps calm me and intensifies emotions from music, plus highlights the subtle details. I have heard things in songs that were hidden until I smoked a bowl.


The only other drugs I use are psychedelics. I believe they are crucial, in fact I wish everyone would take a 5gram dose of shrooms at least once. It completely destroys the ego/separation we experience and think is normal. Coming down off them feels like a clamp coming back down over your consciousness (to quote Ram Dass). They have helped me resolve quite a few existential questions that had been bugging me for about 8. Questions like - why am I experiencing this stream of consciousness and not any other particular one, in other words what decided that I would experience this mind/body during this particular iteration of the universe?

 

[Meer]

Cigarettes and iced tea...

Marijuana usually puts me into a weird space unless I've had quite a bit of alcohol beforehand. The internal and external worlds become super polarized and one or the other sloooows dooown. Tons of paranoia and second guessing myself as everything goes in and out of context. Trying to exist outside of my head becomes difficult, like meditating. Combined with alcohol, I can usually feel a weird tingly sensation all over my body, which I can sometimes feel when I'm not high. In the right circumstances, it's okay.

Alcohol makes me act like a completely different person, but I like it quite a bit.

Codeine is okay. Shrooms, eh, stomach ache. I'd like to try DMT (probably after making it myself) and LSD, sometime.

Trazodone is completely recreationally useless, just FYI. It's not very good for treating insomnia or committing suicide, either.

 

[snafupants]

Cigarettes and iced tea...

Marijuana usually puts me into a weird space unless I've had quite a bit of alcohol beforehand. The internal and external worlds become super polarized and one or the other sloooows dooown. Tons of paranoia and second guessing myself as everything goes in and out of context. Trying to exist outside of my head becomes difficult, like meditating. Combined with alcohol, I can usually feel a weird tingly sensation all over my body, which I can sometimes feel when I'm not high. In the right circumstances, it's okay.

Alcohol makes me act like a completely different person, but I like it quite a bit.

Codeine is okay. Shrooms, eh, stomach ache. I'd like to try DMT (probably after making it myself) and LSD, sometime.

Trazodone is completely recreationally useless, just FYI. It's not very good for treating insomnia or committing suicide, either.

Be careful, the process of synthesizing DMT is far more dangerous than extracting it. Online recipes entail hydrochloric acid and myriad other corrosive, toxic chemicals. Also, it takes upwards of two months and requires precise mixing and the use of stovetops and fridges. There are numerous natural substances containing DMT; you could also tap into a chemical analog. Again, be careful.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Hmm...

Tea: I forgot which chemical it is, but there is a special chemical in tea that calms you down despite of the theine/caffeine in it. I like tea. I used to drink about 4 cups of tea a day, three cups of green tea, and one cup of black tea. However, I've found that caffeine seems to be somewhat related to my recent panic attacks, which I luckily haven't had in the last 2 weeks. (Maybe it was some form of caffeine addiction combined with being a pretty anxious person in general, I don't know) So I drink maybe only one cup of tea a day now.

Chamomile tea: A nice calming, slightly anxiolytic tea.

Rooibos tea: Almost the same as for chamomile, but also nice.

Cappuccino: I absolutely love the taste, but yeah, don't drink it that much anymore for the same reason I cut down drinking tea, and I don't like that it's bad for your cholesterol if I remember correctly, or something that has to do with the heart/cardiovascular system at least.

And now on to the slightly more 'serious' drugs...
Alcohol: Nice to drink one or two beers at a party to remove the social anxiety. Any more and I just feel dazed, slow and disconnected from others, but warm. Almost like a warm comfortable blanket is covering me, but I just can't stand the dumb feeling, I like being mentally 'sharp'.
Cannabis: Weed has fascinated me for about 3 years now, the medical benefits, the history of it, the recreational use, the religious use... But I've only tried it 3 times, first time sometime in spring this year. The first two times I noticed nothing, so the third time I decided to just smoke a whole dimebag with a friend, which wasn't a good idea for a first time high. I got extreme depersonalization and derealization, freaked out, but looking back at it the colors and sensations were interesting, but those things just didn't bother me at the time. I was just afraid I was going mad and/or dying. In the end when I lay down on my bed it felt pretty good, but it took me a long time to get over the whole new disconnected feeling I had experienced, it freaked me out, I thought about it every day. But now I think I could try it again some time soon, just less, and probably a strain/hash with a good amount of CBD to counteract the possible paranoia.

That's it. Psychedelics(like most people here) interest me, but I don't think I'd ever try them. Not any time soon anyways, I'm too sensitive for things like that.

 

[Meer]

Be careful, the process of synthesizing DMT is far more dangerous than extracting it.

Yeah, I would definately be extracting it. I guess 'make' is a little ambiguous. Still dangerous, though.

But maybe when I'm old I'll get myself a nice little chemistry set and a little shack in a field somewhere..

 

[snafupants]

Yeah, I would definately be extracting it. I guess 'make' is a little ambiguous. Still dangerous, though.

But maybe when I'm old I'll get myself a nice little chemistry set and a little shack in a field somewhere..

A la Alexander Shulgin? Sounds like a plan! Bathtub chemistry with Meer!

 

[JarNew]

I've done acid twice
Shrooms 6 times
Salvia 3 times
MDMA twice
Smoked Cannabis countless times
Xanax 3 times
Opiates countless times
DXM once
Ciggarettes mayebe like 6-7 packs
Alcohol not too much

I'm done with psychedelics definitely. Possibly MDMA again in the future but for now I need to allow my serotonin levels to return to normal, since my last roll my mindset hasn't exactly been the same.

I LOVE Salvia. Salvia is the most introspective and useful drugs I've done imo. It's like tapping directly into your subconscious.

I'll smoke weed every once in a while around holidays or at a rave. After my second and last MDMA Roll I began I hallucinating when I smoked weed, believed I was becoming a schizophrenic which led to self-created paranoia.

Opiates are feels good man, Xanax are useful for communicating feelings with females -- only to forget what you've said.

I plan on trying DMT dimthyltryptamine when I turn 25 since that's when the brain stops developing.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I've done acid twice
Shrooms 6 times
Salvia 3 times
MDMA twice
Smoked Cannabis countless times
Xanax 3 times
Opiates countless times
DXM once
Ciggarettes mayebe like 6-7 packs
Alcohol not too much

I'm done with psychedelics definitely. Possibly MDMA again in the future but for now I need to allow my serotonin levels to return to normal, since my last roll my mindset hasn't exactly been the same.

I LOVE Salvia. Salvia is the most introspective and useful drugs I've done imo. It's like tapping directly into your subconscious.

I'll smoke weed every once in a while around holidays or at a rave. After my second and last MDMA Roll I began I hallucinating when I smoked weed, believed I was becoming a schizophrenic which led to self-created paranoia.

Opiates are feels good man, Xanax are useful for communicating feelings with females -- only to forget what you've said.

I plan on trying DMT dimthyltryptamine when I turn 25 since that's when the brain stops developing.

You bastard. Why am I not your irl friend?

Can you describe Salvia? Since I have no means of acquiring LSD and shroom harvesting/growing is out of the question, Salvia is my only available method for divining with the gods.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I've tried smoking a salvia joint with some LSA seeds in it once with a friend of mine a year ago, it didn't work because later we found out salvia has to be heated up to an amount of degrees that's not possible to achieve by smoking a joint, it has to be done through a pipe of some sorts with a butane lighter. I just kind of avoided the LSA seeds(Hawaiian Baby Wood Rose), because smoking seeds seemed like a bad idea, but they didn't burn well in the end anyways.

But ahem:
From what I know, 70% of the experiences with salvia I've heard about and read about were bad trips, because salvia tends to throw you into a really strong trip within seconds. Some people are unable to control their bodies and end up running around or smashing things without knowing it, so you'll definitely need a sitter. But I think JarNew probably has better information to tell you as he experienced the salvia trip himself. I know it's very different from all other hallucinogens since it responds to different receptors in the brain. It's supposed to end within about 30 minutes if you smoke it. If you chew salvia the trip will come on slightly slower and will presumably be less strong(although I'm just assuming this, haven't read about it, but seems logical) and last about an hour longer I think.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Thanks for your input, even though I already know everything you have said lol. I have heard personal stories from friends, but none were INTP.

 

[snafupants]

I've done acid twice
Shrooms 6 times
Salvia 3 times
MDMA twice
Smoked Cannabis countless times
Xanax 3 times
Opiates countless times
DXM once
Ciggarettes mayebe like 6-7 packs
Alcohol not too much

I'm done with psychedelics definitely. Possibly MDMA again in the future but for now I need to allow my serotonin levels to return to normal, since my last roll my mindset hasn't exactly been the same.

I LOVE Salvia. Salvia is the most introspective and useful drugs I've done imo. It's like tapping directly into your subconscious.

I'll smoke weed every once in a while around holidays or at a rave. After my second and last MDMA Roll I began I hallucinating when I smoked weed, believed I was becoming a schizophrenic which led to self-created paranoia.

Opiates are feels good man, Xanax are useful for communicating feelings with females -- only to forget what you've said.

I plan on trying DMT dimthyltryptamine when I turn 25 since that's when the brain stops developing.

There are numerous things wrong with that last sentence. First, your brain never stops developing: there are periods which are inherently rife with neuronal development, but neurogenesis typically occurs throughout the lifespan. Second, DMT is less toxic than aspirin; if anything, you should be worrying about what the MDMA is cut with. DMT is produced endogenously around the clock which implies that your body can handle moderate amounts. Your experience with Salvia is interesting though. What dosage and strength did you use?

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Question:
Is it safe to smoke some Thai weed sometime soon?
I'm in a pretty neutral to dark cynical mood right now. I want to try and see if I smoke a few puffs of a light strain of weed I get a better, more pleasurable experience than last time. It was quite psychedelic and eye-opening, but it left me in a pretty depressed depersonalized state for pretty much the whole summer, thinking of what the experience meant. I think the weed itself didn't really cause the weird mood I had, I kind of blame my own thinking for it, because as soon as I realized I was only increasing the detachment by thinking about it all the time, it disappeared in a few days completely.

 

[JarNew]

You bastard. Why am I not your irl friend?

Can you describe Salvia? Since I have no means of acquiring LSD and shroom harvesting/growing is out of the question, Salvia is my only available method for divining with the gods.

Salvia is short and intense. Your universe will literally change. For me it was sensation that I was being sucked into a vortex, counter clockwise. Your belief systems shape your experience ENTIRELY.

LSD is amazingly easy to acquire if you KNOW WHERE TO LOOK AND WHAT TO LISTEN TOO. Use your judgement when asking people

Shrooms grow everywhere. I've found 2 wild species one of them being extremely rare for my state (also reason we're not irl friends -- i live on the eastcoast) the other being potent and similar to many potentially dangerous mushrooms. If you're interested in mushroom hunting pm me and i'll fill you hook you up lol.

Also we wouldn't be real life friends. I've quit drugs and stopped associating with pretty much everyone who abuses them. Also got my true friends who are going somewhere in life to stop using them

There are numerous things wrong with that last sentence. First, your brain never stops developing: there are periods which are inherently rife with neuronal development, but neurogenesis typically occurs throughout the lifespan. Second, DMT is less toxic than aspirin; if anything, you should be worrying about what the MDMA is cut with. DMT is produced endogenously around the clock which implies that your body can handle moderate amounts. Your experience with Salvia is interesting though. What dosage and strength did you use?

Well I've read that the brain stops growing or slows down dramatically around 25.

I know alll of that, DMT just seems sketchy. The people I know who have done it are weakminded spiritualists, embracing dead human values not backed by anything, going nowhere in life. When I'm 25, I'll be set in society and ready to once again dive into the world of the mystical. Which I should get out of now that I Think about it...

I made sure I got pure MDMA but the second time I took it I took too much LOL

Sorry for the late response. I forgot about this thread.

I used 60x salvia.

 

[JarNew]

You bastard. Why am I not your irl friend?

Can you describe Salvia? Since I have no means of acquiring LSD and shroom harvesting/growing is out of the question, Salvia is my only available method for divining with the gods.

There are numerous things wrong with that last sentence. First, your brain never stops developing: there are periods which are inherently rife with neuronal development, but neurogenesis typically occurs throughout the lifespan. Second, DMT is less toxic than aspirin; if anything, you should be worrying about what the MDMA is cut with. DMT is produced endogenously around the clock which implies that your body can handle moderate amounts. Your experience with Salvia is interesting though. What dosage and strength did you use?

Question:
Is it safe to smoke some Thai weed sometime soon?
I'm in a pretty neutral to dark cynical mood right now. I want to try and see if I smoke a few puffs of a light strain of weed I get a better, more pleasurable experience than last time. It was quite psychedelic and eye-opening, but it left me in a pretty depressed depersonalized state for pretty much the whole summer, thinking of what the experience meant. I think the weed itself didn't really cause the weird mood I had, I kind of blame my own thinking for it, because as soon as I realized I was only increasing the detachment by thinking about it all the time, it disappeared in a few days completely.

Question:
Is it safe to smoke some Thai weed sometime soon?
I'm in a pretty neutral to dark cynical mood right now. I want to try and see if I smoke a few puffs of a light strain of weed I get a better, more pleasurable experience than last time. It was quite psychedelic and eye-opening, but it left me in a pretty depressed depersonalized state for pretty much the whole summer, thinking of what the experience meant. I think the weed itself didn't really cause the weird mood I had, I kind of blame my own thinking for it, because as soon as I realized I was only increasing the detachment by thinking about it all the time, it disappeared in a few days completely.

Depends what your goals in life are. You know the answer. You just don't want to contemplate it DDDDDDDDDD

Don't smoke it if you want to win that chick's heart.

Edit: accidental double post

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Hmm, interesting.
So I should wait 'til I get rejected/accepted?

The thing is I'm just really bored now. I'd love to watch some (music) videos about racing through time and space and being completely sucked into an euphoric outer space bliss.

But yeah, back on topic; It's probably part of growing up, shaping your identity. Didn't they ingest shrooms and smoke cannabis/opium/tobacco already about 3000 years ago?

 

[gephura]

I'm done with psychedelics definitely. Possibly MDMA again in the future but for now I need to allow my serotonin levels to return to normal, since my last roll my mindset hasn't exactly been the same.

Why? And btw, shrooms are like the retarded babies of good psychedelics.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

But yeah, back on topic; It's probably part of growing up, shaping your identity. Didn't they ingest shrooms and smoke cannabis/opium/tobacco already about 3000 years ago?

Yea. But the people then used it ritualistically(apparently). Today, for the most part, people do it just to have fun or to escape reality. So that's where the laws come from.

 

[JarNew]

Hmm, interesting.
So I should wait 'til I get rejected/accepted?

The thing is I'm just really bored now. I'd love to watch some (music) videos about racing through time and space and being completely sucked into an euphoric outer space bliss.

But yeah, back on topic; It's probably part of growing up, shaping your identity. Didn't they ingest shrooms and smoke cannabis/opium/tobacco already about 3000 years ago?

omg i m so dum, your assumptions aren't even your own. me being here has nothing to do with being accepted/rejected, so i wonder who really wants to be accepted. i have my own agenda naive child. l2experience

Do you seriously think I care if I'm accepted/ rejected over the internet? People here do not make me feel, they make me think. That's about it as this is only text. I'm also interested in the majority of the posts I read here. I suggest you experiment with black tar heroine, it tastes like candy

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Wat

I think there is a misunderstanding here, but whatever.

Yea. But the people then used it ritualistically(apparently). Today, for the most part, people do it just to have fun or to escape reality. So that's where the laws come from.

True, true. Although I think recreational use has also been around for a long time. I don't think opium for example is a very ritualistic drug. I remember from my Latin classes the Romans put opium and other plants in their wines and stuff as well.

 

[Ska]

Why? And btw, shrooms are like the retarded babies of good psychedelics.

I'm interesting in hearing what the "good" psychadelics are, why they are better, and how/where I can get my hands on some.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Wat

I think there is a misunderstanding here, but whatever.



True, true. Although I think recreational use has also been around for a long time. I don't think opium for example is a very ritualistic drug. I remember from my Latin classes the Romans put opium and other plants in their wines and stuff as well.

Yea opium has long standing use as an escape drug. If you're not in the know check out the Opium Wars. This is where its prohibition comes from. Cocaine was legal also until it was being abused.

 

[DreadfulFlyingGlove]

This is something I wondered about upon discovering I was INTP. When I was a teenager, I experimented a lot with drugs. I grew up in Brooklyn (live here still), and in the early 90s got really into the rave scene here (which was AMAZING). I liked most drugs, but did one time almost have a bad trip while "candyflipping" (acid and ecstasy together). It was coming on strong and fast, and was very frightening. It was like an avalanche of bad thoughts, gaining mass and velocity with each passing moment. I was somehow able to logically solve the problem. I was at a rave, and decided I would "blast the bad trip out of my head". I went right in front of one of the big wall of speakers, let the music wash over me, and literally felt the bad trip leave my brain. Had an awesome night from that point on.
Haven't done anything in quite some time. Kinda hate weed. I don't like how it affects my mental processes. Although it is cool to be able to sit in a room full of people, be completely quiet, and have everyone just assume "Oh she's jut stoned".

 

[DreadfulFlyingGlove]

Whether INTPs enjoyed drug use, if so what kind, if not why, etc. I can see we run the gamut. In regards to this subject. Namely drug use.

 

[snafupants]

This is something I wondered about upon discovering I was INTP. When I was a teenager, I experimented a lot with drugs. I grew up in Brooklyn (live here still), and in the early 90s got really into the rave scene here (which was AMAZING). I liked most drugs, but did one time almost have a bad trip while "candyflipping" (acid and ecstasy together). It was coming on strong and fast, and was very frightening. It was like an avalanche of bad thoughts, gaining mass and velocity with each passing moment. I was somehow able to logically solve the problem. I was at a rave, and decided I would "blast the bad trip out of my head". I went right in front of one of the big wall of speakers, let the music wash over me, and literally felt the bad trip leave my brain. Had an awesome night from that point on.
Haven't done anything in quite some time. Kinda hate weed. I don't like how it affects my mental processes. Although it is cool to be able to sit in a room full of people, be completely quiet, and have everyone just assume "Oh she's jut stoned".

Do you gain any insight into yourself or your situation with solely good trips? Seems unrealistic.

 

[Moocow]

Do you gain any insight into yourself or your situation with solely good trips? Seems unrealistic.

Insight isn't always the goal with tripping. I believe it can be quite healthy for your mind to simply have a profoundly beautiful experience.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Hmm, I'm beginning to see a pattern here.
Lots of people seem to hate weed, but like psychedelics?

Isn't weed like a mild psychedelic? What makes psychedelics different for those who enjoyed tripping but did not like being stoned/high?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Hmm, I'm beginning to see a pattern here.
Lots of people seem to hate weed, but like psychedelics?

Isn't weed like a mild psychedelic? What makes psychedelics different for those who enjoyed tripping but did not like being stoned/high?

Personally I get a repulsive feeling from marijuana. I'm not sure why, but I feel like it's low quality and not really respectable. Though I have a thing for bongs.

EDIT: The same goes for alcohol and tobacco.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Personally I get a repulsive feeling from marijuana. I'm not sure why, but I feel like it's low quality and not really respectable. Though I have a thing for bongs.

EDIT: The same goes for alcohol and tobacco.

What would you describe that feeling as?
I just panicked, I wish I didn't and could've paid more attention to it's real effects. I noticed everything slowed down and became 'glowy' though.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

That is the feeling, lol. I'm talking about the idea of smoking it, I've never done so and that's how I feel about it.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Oh, I see :')

 

[Moocow]

Weed isn't much like psychedelics at all for me, and even among psychedelics they are not all the same. LSD has a very clear-minded problem solving kind of element while Psilocybin is more about connectedness and tranquility. Weed is just for being lazy and not thinking, or for sleeping. It's good for relaxing through long, shitty winters.
Although, good quality weed radically changes my thoughts while I use it. I tend to think back over my day and re-evaluate how I might have come across to some people, whether my behavior was appropriate at various times, that sort of thing.

These things can all be helpful in their own ways if you know how to make them useful. I think a lot of people just get uncomfortable with the changes in their thought patterns because they don't expect it. The most general purpose to all of them is the opportunity to temporarily change your perspective so you can come to understand all the usual things in a more broad, diverse way.

 

[Moocow]

Personally I get a repulsive feeling from marijuana. I'm not sure why, but I feel like it's low quality and not really respectable. Though I have a thing for bongs.

EDIT: The same goes for alcohol and tobacco.

It took me a while to overcome that feeling. I think it was residual from bad experiences with various people in high school that liked the stuff. Be careful how you generalize your resentment and judgements, though. Correlation doesn't imply causation.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

These things can all be helpful in their own ways if you know how to make them useful. I think a lot of people just get uncomfortable with the changes in their thought patterns because they don't expect it. The most general purpose to all of them is the opportunity to temporarily change your perspective so you can come to understand all the usual things in a more broad, diverse way.

That is my problem. Whenever I feel a bit weird, even without any drugs or so, I start worrying about what might be wrong. How do you get rid of that? Will it heal by time?

 

[Moocow]

That is my problem. Whenever I feel a bit weird, even without any drugs or so, I start worrying about what might be wrong. How do you get rid of that? Will it heal by time?

Feeling weird without drugs? Could you be more specific?

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Feeling weird without drugs? Could you be more specific?

Having a panic attack, anxiety, becoming a bit loopy because of lack of sleep, uncomfortable atmospheres and situations...

 

[Moocow]

Having a panic attack, anxiety, becoming a bit loopy because of lack of sleep, uncomfortable atmospheres and situations...

Do you drink a lot of caffeine?

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Do you drink a lot of caffeine?

Yup.
I used to drink about 5 cups of black tea and a cup of coffee a day, and if it was something else, it was cola, which still contains a tiny amount of caffeine.

I've now reduced my caffeine intake to 0 though. Except sometimes a cup of green tea.
I never have panic attacks when I have no caffeine in my blood, so I definitely see a connection there. It's also a bit in my personality and genes though.

What would you say?