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[Mars]

^Lawl, highly contentious to those overly pretentious.

 

[sofloluke]

well i haven't checked this thread in almost a week and thank you everybody for the comments.
brain enclosed, i can really relate to your situation, though i've only been in a relationship for 4 years as opposed to 14. my girl and i are 100% opposite on almost everything and are a very unlikely but happy couple. really the main thing we both love is drinking. but to answer your question about applying the things i love to read and learn about into an actual tangible thing, i have to say that the answer is a mixed bag. i love cars and i make my living as an auto technician, i love the challenge of diagnosing the car, but once you factor in all the management and policy of working in a dealership, it absolutely blows. they say that you should try to find something that you are truly passionate about and make your living doing that, but it hits the fan when you actually have to deal with people that are in it just for personal gain and money. i think that starting your own business and doing your own thing is the only way to be satisfied, but i don't have the resources or connections to take that leap of faith right now. i have to say that your post gives me some inspiration and is sending me in the right direction, thank you for that.
for everybody else, since this post has almost nothing to do with alcohol, i'll quote a very wise man that i used to work with that stopped drinking years ago. "it's not how much you drink that makes you an alcoholic, but how much trouble you get into while you're drinking."

 

[snafupants]

I drank with suicidal intensity between the ages of 17 and 19, inclusive. An initial and fond experience was my mates and me coming home piss drunk from my 18th birthday bash, spent at a hookah bar and strip joint. Verily, about thirty times I can recall - well not really - having about 16 drinks per night. I am quite surprised that I did not do permanent brain damage (although I cant speak to liver damage). In fact, once I quit at 19 I experienced an intellectual renaissance of sorts and began reading three books per week, dabbling in writing, listening to more eclectic music, playing numerous instruments and so forth. My lights had turned on. Having said all this, I dont think there is a correlation between drinking and heightened intellectual capacity; if this were the case, any old booze hound would unload his quill on the next great american novel. Well, there was Mark Twain...shut up you!

 

[Knoxx]

I don't drink, I'm not a fan of being drunk
but I smoke herb like a Rastafarian.

 

[snafupants]

Doing anything to excess is probably exercising poor judgement. But man, a cool Guinness standing at frosty attention in the fridge is a beautiful thing at the end of a long day.

 

[aracaris]

anyone esle here drink a lot? i dunno if its INTP thing, but i cane ber kind of an alclholic, and i'm kind of drunk right now. anyone else?

I haven't drank in a few months, and actually have gone years without any alcohol (and I mean even after reaching legal drinking age). I've drank now and then, mainly because I appreciate the art of brewing (which is fascinating, and can really be an art) and like to try different things. However recently for health reasons I've stopped, now I don't use any substances not perscribed, aside from caffeine, and that I've even cut down some on.

 

[mke2686]

i used to drink but i always got into heated debates that would turn into full blown fights or worse i would black out and have people tel me some crazy shit i did. so i quit drinking and started smoking weed... i still have a drink every now and then but no more than a couple of shots or beers.

 

[Moocow]

Alcohol symbolizes a few things I highly resent:

-Self-destructive behavior to appease irrational, unhealthy, idiotic social expectations.
-Immense drug policy and social norm double standards.
-Turning to easy, quick treatments of much bigger problems instead of facing them.
-A depressing loss of appreciation for your own body and mind.

I'm surprised more people aren't disturbed by alcohol as a symbol of the self-destructive, self-bullshitting attitudes that culture is saturated in. I've maintained my lifestyle as an outside observer of social habits because it's really not too hard to see how many are degrading and unhealthy. Sacrificing my own physical health for the sake of padding other people's vices is the last thing I want to do.
Call it arrogance, self righteousness, whatever you want. I really just kind of value my general health, and feel the need to defend myself from attitudes that threaten it.

 

[snafupants]

^ very well said. films like the hangover, role models, and knocked up which glamorize being a loser/dope rub me the wrong way. among an almost infinite slew of substances, alcohol and its societal placement/function seems plain degenerate, especially when you weigh the costs and benefits in an intellectually honest way.

 

[Causeless]

I don't drink, I'm not a fan of being drunk
but I smoke herb like a Rastafarian.

 

[Agent Intellect]

I am a degenerate alcoholic. I haven't been drunk since the beginning of July, but once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic, I suppose.

I've noticed that since I stopped drinking my Tourette syndrome and OCD has gotten a lot worse (to the point where my neck, face, and chest muscles hurt on account of my tics). Either that or now I'm just sober enough to notice.

 

[snafupants]

^ perhaps the excess dopamine/epinephrine from the wellbutrin is exacerbating your tics and so forth and not the lack of alcohol per se. whats that tune, some ass clown anyway, blame it on the alcohol?

 

[Agent Intellect]

^ perhaps the excess dopamine/epinephrine from the wellbutrin is exacerbating your tics and so forth and not the lack of alcohol per se. whats that tune, some ass clown anyway, blame it on the alcohol?

Could be. I considered it, but it had started to get worse in the 3 weeks I took to dry out before starting the medication. But, it's very likely the medication isn't helping - I've heard that OCD could either be a problem in the dopaminergic system or a problem in the serotonergic system. But I've also recently read that chronic OCD might be a genetic disease effecting brain-derived neurotrophic factor - but as far as I know, the jury is still out (and more than likely I'm just trying to rationalize my use of bupropion).