Do you resent people for not being unique?

[RubberDucky451]

Another thread ^_^ (I'm on a roll eh?)


As an INTP and being inherently critical to some extent do you find yourself judging others for being shallow or not unique? For example someone who is very "fashionable" most likely won't participate in a intellectual conversation. As for myself i dress ok, nothing too fancy yet I'm no slob. So again... Do you resent people for not being unique?

Discuss!

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

I just stay away from "normals" when I can....I see you also use the ^_^, I thought I was the only one!

 

[RubberDucky451]

I just stay away from "normals" when I can....I see you also use the ^_^, I thought I was the only one!

Yeah, the bastards!

I can't remember where I picked that smiley up but he's followed me for quite a long time.

 

[Kuu]

I resent you both for using ^_^. How utterly mundane and unoriginal.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

there is nothing i hate more

 

[Claverhouse]

With a world population approaching 7,000,000,000 it's rather shallow to resent, or care, that few are wholly unique rounded individuals.

It's rather like the amusing American/Liberal wistful conceit that every single person has the capacity for creating great art --- or has an interesting story in them. Both are impossible, and anyone disputing this is free to tape the five-minute autobiographies of everyone in the USA. Starting on the left as you go in.


Claverhouse

 

[Fleur]

Well, sometimes I am thinking that attempting to be completely "normal" is "unique". If people strive for uniqueness, they tend to become the same anyway, so what is the point of trying? ...Fine, perhaps there is a point in trying: searching for your identity and finding new ways to deal with your life, making it more interesting and fun... but trying to be unique just for sake of uniqueness? I do not know, but it sounds to be quite as shallow as being the "fashionable" person.

Nobody is truly unique. There are only groups of people who are in lesser numbers than others, so their characteristics appear to be corking.

 

[Sugarpop]

Another thread ^_^ (I'm on a roll eh?)


As an INTP and being inherently critical to some extent do you find yourself judging others for being shallow or not unique? For example someone who is very "fashionable" most likely won't participate in a intellectual conversation. As for myself i dress ok, nothing too fancy yet I'm no slob. So again... Do you resent people for not being unique?

Discuss!

There might be layers of uniqueness and clothing could be one?

I am a bit unpatient with people who don't show some free thinking and intellectual depth sometimes.

 

[Jaico]

I don't resent people for not being unique - I resent people who jump at any chance they have to get onto bandwagons without any sort of reasoning or thinking. People who simply wear clothes/join groups/do activities just so that they can be a part of a group without having any sort of explainable reasons or motives other than "it's cool" really ticks me off. I mean, obviously, it's great to be part of something that lots of other people like, as long as you've got solid reasons for it.

 

[walfin]

I mean, obviously, it's great to be part of something that lots of other people like, as long as you've got solid reasons for it.

What is reason enough for them might not be reason enough for you, and vice versa.

 

[Vatroslav]

I don't really resent those people... I just don't have much contact with them... few common subjects... and those conventional ways of thinking really get on my nerves sometimes...

 

[Jaico]

What is reason enough for them might not be reason enough for you, and vice versa.

That is quite true, and an interesting point - I suppose there always is subjectivity when it comes down to things like this. Still, I don't understand when people just follow others mindlessly without any sort of reasoning or explanation on their behalf (not to sound pretentious or anything...although that's how it sounds like when I read it ).

 

[preilemus]

alot of people would probably consider me very shallow, but thats because I distance myself from pretty much everybody i know.

of course my internal world is vibrant, but i usually see little reason to connect the two, and therefore I seem quite ordinary externally

 

[Enne]

There are some theories on personality that reason that not everyone will end up creating / living out a unique personality. Uniqueness beyond the superficial strange dress/ music tastes etc. concept to me seems to be more along the lines of one's capacity of personal growth and development independent of social norms and ideals. Simply being 'counter culture' in the clique-y commercialized sense is not enough.

That being said, if you have to ask, you're not unique.

 

[Ghost1986]

makes it easier to predict them so no. i dislike surprises.

 

[Waterstiller]

http://www.hel-looks.com/?p=image/archives/2/20090610_02/
(read the description.)

Everyone's unique; uniqueness is a matter of how close you look at a person and under what definition you're using to judge that they're different from others. Fashion is just one level of expression that can be explored.

All of us are pretty much islands unto ourselves.. it's just a matter of how far we're willing to go to show it. It's funny that we value uniqueness.. but only in certain quantities and expressions. If you're too unique you're completely undesirable. Just how far do you take uniqueness until you're deemed an "other" and get major shit for it? Beaten to death for it? Uniqueness is pretty much dissent.


That said.. I tend to admire people who completely disregard what's 'normal' for what is 'self'.

 

[truthseeker72]

Resentment doesn't accurately describe my view of"sheeple". Mild contempt, or disdain is what I feel for people who mindlessly regurgitate stale ideas, thoughts, stereotypes and cliches. While I don't deliberately avoid these people, I'm probably not going to form any meaningful bond with them.

 

[Tyria]

I don't find most cookie cutter people interesting (those that seem like they come from a cookie cutter mold). I don't resent them for it.

 

[Fedayeen]

Nobody is truly unique.

You think so? (wow that emote is creepy)


I do things the way I want, and don't give a shit how outside the box it is, or how I will be perceived. I do things because I want to do them, and as a result I end up being different. I acknowledge that thats the way I am, but I don't do it to become "unique" I do it because I want to do it.

Striving for uniqueness is the same as striving to be the same as everyone. Only by truly being yourself will you be truly unique.

 

[RubberDucky451]

You think so? (wow that emote is creepy)


I do things the way I want, and don't give a shit how outside the box it is, or how I will be perceived. I do things because I want to do them, and as a result I end up being different. I acknowledge that thats the way I am, but I don't do it to become "unique" I do it because I want to do it.

Striving for uniqueness is the same as striving to be the same as everyone. Only by truly being yourself will you be truly unique.

The problem with striving to be like others, is that most don't realize they're doing it. Personally i strive to be open to new things and I'm always ready to learn new info.

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

I just resent the ones that can't/refuse to think for themselves

 

[Ermine]

I don't resent "normal" people, just people who are ruled by peer pressure and any other bandwagon mentality.

 

[Jenn]

When I was younger, I did. With maturity, I have come to appreciate that it takes many types to make a world. I've learned to respect and admire "normal" people who give what they have to the world - I only resent human leeches. The person that collects my trash, stocks the supermarket shelves, is the doctor's office receptionist, etc, have my sincere appreciation and gratitude. These people need to be more "normal" in order do what they do - and the fact that they do what they do makes the world functional.

If everyone was like me, we'd be in trouble, because I'd go bat-shit crazy in any one of the aforementioned jobs.

Furthermore, I've learned that insight and knowledge can come from surprising sources. A good idea can come from a simple "normal" person, and a bad idea can come from a unique genius. I try to listen and learn what I can from anyone - no matter who they are.

 

[RubberDucky451]

http://www.hel-looks.com/?p=image/archives/2/20090610_02/
(read the description.)

Everyone's unique; uniqueness is a matter of how close you look at a person and under what definition you're using to judge that they're different from others. Fashion is just one level of expression that can be explored.

All of us are pretty much islands unto ourselves.. it's just a matter of how far we're willing to go to show it. It's funny that we value uniqueness.. but only in certain quantities and expressions. If you're too unique you're completely undesirable. Just how far do you take uniqueness until you're deemed an "other" and get major shit for it? Beaten to death for it? Uniqueness is pretty much dissent.


That said.. I tend to admire people who completely disregard what's 'normal' for what is 'self'.

When someone is being too unique or weird it makes other uncomfortable. It seems like a primal instinct to hate those that are too different, and clothing is a clear way to stand out.

 

[RubberDucky451]

When I was younger, I did. With maturity, I have come to appreciate that it takes many types to make a world. I've learned to respect and admire "normal" people who give what they have to the world - I only resent human leeches. The person that collects my trash, stocks the supermarket shelves, is the doctor's office receptionist, etc, have my sincere appreciation and gratitude. These people need to be more "normal" in order do what they do - and the fact that they do what they do makes the world functional.

If everyone was like me, we'd be in trouble, because I'd go bat-shit crazy in any one of the aforementioned jobs.

Furthermore, I've learned that insight and knowledge can come from surprising sources. A good idea can come from a simple "normal" person, and a bad idea can come from a unique genius. I try to listen and learn what I can from anyone - no matter who they are.

I agree. I do appreciate them but those who are unique are the minority.

 

[Sapphire Harp]

I feel like there's some kind of weird perspective warping in the periphery here... Which is to say - how many people do we all know?

Just to throw out numbers, I'd guess we each have basic facts about a few thousand people... superficial understanding of 100-500 individuals... okay understanding of less than a hundred... good understanding of less than twenty or thirty?

For the amount of people I figure we know well enough to judge, it hardly seems like there's enough of them to be any duplicates... So, are you saying unique people are not like any stereotype depicted in stories and on television?

Or were we supposed to just talk about how people look and dress?
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[Morel Panic]

Normal people are 100% okay with me. They're boring and frustrating to be around, but society needs sheep as well as innovators.

However, when normal people try to impose their normality on me, THEN I resent them.

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

Normal people are 100% okay with me. They're boring and frustrating to be around, but society needs sheep as well as innovators.

However, when normal people try to impose their normality on me, THEN I resent them.

^^ what he said

 

[RubberDucky451]

Normal people are 100% okay with me. They're boring and frustrating to be around, but society needs sheep as well as innovators.

However, when normal people try to impose their normality on me, THEN I resent them.

Ah, exactly. I listen to an extremely varied mix of music and it's painful when someone tries to introduce their favorite band.

 

[studebaker]

Going right back to the beginning of this thread:
^-^ , ^0^ , ^v^ etc are the Japanese forms of text emoticons. There are all kinds of them.

I used to resent painfully normal people, but I learned two things: 1. Society needs them, probably more than me, and 2. Everyone is doing the best they can. Sure you say they seem empty, but maybe that is the best they can do, and who are you to judge etc.

 

[nickgray]

Normal people like "get a job, get married, buy a house, have a couple of kids, move to Florida, die peacefully in your sleep"? I dislike... no, I'm scared of having such a life. It's... just scary, dunno. Anyways, yeah, as several people mentioned society needs such people and without them there wouldn't be much of a society (probably this'll all change in a several hundred years, but not anytime soon).