Cheating on your Girlfriend

[DeadonDreaming]

Any of you ever cheat on your girlfriend/boyfriend?


I've done it a couple times. One time this girl, who pretty much did whatever I wanted at any time of day, came to where I lived crying because I was flirting with another woman. "I want to be in a relationship with you! I like you so much!", but all I wanted was sex. I was trying to get her into bed, when I realized I would have to say we were in a relationship, so I did.

Our friends with benefits situation happened in the most "this will never be a relationship EVER way". I could tell she wanted me when she talked to me; she laughed at my stupid jokes, got really flirty and laughed all the time for no reason, got really nervous around me. I invited her over to where I lived, and the moment she walked in the door I pinned her to the wall and started making out with her. I threw her on the ground, took off her clothes, and went down on her. It was her first time, but I didn't care. Really, I thought I made it clear immediately I didn't want a relationship, but she had to push it.

Two weeks later I phoned up my ex-girlfriend, rented a motel room, and had really drunk, nasty sex. I came home smelling like cigarettes, alcohol, and perfume, then had the "girlfriend" go down on me. Afterwards she looked up, and I told her "I just cheated on you", and walked out of the room.

We still kept doing it for 2 weeks, until I texted her and said "Yeah.. this isn't worth it for you.. you should just sleep with someone else". Eventually she did, with this guy who had been trying to get with her for MONTHS, and who I would take every opportunity to troll. One time he sat outside her door, playing guitar and trying to serenade her, while not knowing we were inside in bed laughing at him.

Another time, this sweet little asian girl asked me out, but wasn't ready to have sex yet. I was getting pretty antsy after a couple days, and told one of my female friends at the time about it. She comes over, sits on my couch, and plainly states "You want to have sex?", which leads to some of the best sex ever. Eventually the asian got the message, though she kept IMing me for months afterwards.

Another time I kept getting into arguments with my girlfriend about her going out with friends. I was horny, and impatient, so I broke up with her one night because I needed to get laid immmmmeedddiatteelyyy. I called up my most recent ex, went over to her place, and got the deed done. While coming up the elevator later with another friend of mine, he told me "My friend saw you with that other girl today. They think you guys make a cute couple". He didn't know my ex-girlfriend and her huge father were right behind us. Awkward. I guess this isn't technically cheating, since I did break up with her hours before. A week later we're making out, even though I know she has a man she is into. She says we can still have sex, but then backs out of the offer. Damn!


Life goes on I suppose :P Hahaha. This thread was inspired by people talking about the friendzone, so I decided to talk about the opposite. Nice guys really do finish last :P

 

[Absurdity]

I've been cheated on. It sucked.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

I've been cheated on. It sucked.

I'm not sure if I have. I thought the perfume ex cheated on me, so I broke up with her without even mentioning it. She started crying. Years later she told me her ex-boyfriend was leaving messages on her phone, talking to her, and that even though he was talking to her still she wasn't cheating on me. I don't really care, if I even catch the smell of infidelity I'm out of there. I'm a hypocrite, oh well. She invited me over to her house when she was seeing him, but I didn't take her up on the offer.

My experience is that women don't really care about getting cheated on. They'll keep having sex with you, being your girlfriend, etc. Sometimes they'll try even harder to please you.

 

[Absurdity]

My experience is that women don't really care about getting cheated on.

My experience completely contradicts this.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

My experience completely contradicts this.

I don't have a big enough sample size to really say for sure if this is true. Since I'm just looking for friends with benefits, and will make it clear in the future instead of being deceitful about it, I don't think I'll have the opportunity to.

 

[Absurdity]

Not intentionally being a dick by asking this question, but have you ever been in a relationship where you actually cared about hurting the other person emotionally?

 

[Architect]

ISTP's tend to be much more promiscuous than INTP's in my experience. I haven't seen any exceptions.

Never cheated on a girlfriend, but it happened to me once. Not interested in that.

 

[Absurdity]

ISTP's tend to be much more promiscuous than INTP's in my experience.

Agreed. Think it is Se that makes it hard for them to keep it in their pants?

 

[Architect]

Agreed. Think it is Se that makes it hard for them to keep it in their pants?

Yes plus they're of the clan SP. I can't imagine (well I can imagine which is why I wouldn't) navigating multiple entanglements. Einstein, possibly our ultimate protagonist, worked to keep "the merely personal" to a minimum. He soon divorced his first wife once they had a few kids, then just kept some girlfriends and a distant second wife.

ISTP's also tend to be physically bulked out over the stick figure INTP.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

Yes plus they're of the clan SP. I can't imagine (well I can imagine which is why I wouldn't) navigating multiple entanglements. Einstein, possibly our ultimate protagonist, worked to keep "the merely personal" to a minimum. He soon divorced his first wife once they had a few kids, then just kept some girlfriends and a distant second wife.

ISTP's also tend to be physically bulked out over the stick figure INTP.

Hey hey hey, lets not get into physical stereotypes. Next thing you know, they're going to say all INTPs are fat comic book nerds that weigh 300 lbs.

 

[Architect]

Hey hey hey, lets not get into physical stereotypes. Next thing you know, they're going to say all INTPs are fat comic book nerds that weigh 300 lbs.

Well I believe type results in physical characteristics, both as an experimental and theoretical result. Certainly most (all?) of the sensors I know are either muscled, overweight, or both. No mystery why that is, sensors like food and physical exercise - you know, physical acts.

INTP's tend toward the ectomorph. Again sitting around and thinking won't make you muscled. And INTP's tend to be picky eaters in my experience, or at least not big eaters. The mind works better on less food.

 

[Etheri]

I was going to state that, unlike you, i'm actually a nice person... but even the thought of that feels wrong. (Not that i'm not a nice person, I just won't claim I am, either.)

Anyways, if I actually get into a relation with someone, i'll be rather honest and forreal with them. I'll talk to others, i'll ignore them when I don't want to talk to anyone, and I obviously can't stop my mind from thinking the things it thinks. But i'll be faithful, and I'll only be with them as long as I consider them to be 'special' to me. (I won't say in love, because... well, that's too emotional for me to understand well ;D). If i want to sleep around, i simply won't get into a relationship with them. Perhaps this is why i've never had a relationship... Whelp.

Anyways, if I actually get a girlfriend, I expect to be able to trust her. I wouldn't cheat on someone I can truly trust and understand, because in all honesty, the idea of being understood is harder to find than sex (to me). Besides, if I have a gf, I think it's fair to assume i'd get more sex than when I don't have one?... (actually, I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions, but it's probably a fair assumption regardless)

TL DR; If you can't bother being faithful and you only care as much as you described previously, why bother with relationships? You can sleep around with people without being together for a week, as we're both very well aware of. I atleast try not to lead people on. (And at times, I obviously fail.)

 

[DeadonDreaming]

I was going to state that, unlike you, i'm actually a nice person... but even the thought of that feels wrong. (Not that i'm not a nice person, I just won't claim I am, either.)

Anyways, if I actually get into a relation with someone, i'll be rather honest and forreal with them. I'll talk to others, i'll ignore them when I don't want to talk to anyone, and I obviously can't stop my mind from thinking the things it thinks. But i'll be faithful, and I'll only be with them as long as I consider them to be 'special' to me. (I won't say in love, because... well, that's too emotional for me to understand well ;D). If i want to sleep around, i simply won't get into a relationship with them. Perhaps this is why i've never had a relationship... Whelp.

Anyways, if I actually get a girlfriend, I expect to be able to trust her. I wouldn't cheat on someone I can truly trust and understand, because in all honesty, the idea of being understood is harder to find than sex (to me). Besides, if I have a gf, I think it's fair to assume i'd get more sex than when I don't have one?... (actually, I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions, but it's probably a fair assumption regardless)

TL DR; If you can't bother being faithful and you only care as much as you described previously, why bother with relationships? You can sleep around with people without being together for a week, as we're both very well aware of. I atleast try not to lead people on. (And at times, I obviously fail.)

Great, you're nice, here is a medal.

Friends with benefits quickly lead to relationships. If you want sex, you're going to have to at least give the illusion of a relationship after a while. I don't consider anyone 'special' to me. I'm not going to let someone control me or hold me down, sorry, YOLO.

Yeah, it sounds like you have a lot of needs. Trust and someone understanding you? Good luck, that isn't the type of thing you'll find this world. You can always get a therapist for that, if you really need it.

I find it weird that you're commenting on this but you have 0 dating experience :P Just saying! Your ideal world and the real world are two different things.

Sorry. I take that 'special' part back. I do consider my female FRIENDS special to me, especially my neighbor for a year who has a boyfriend in northern California. I guess my "dating" persona is much different from my normal persona.

 

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[SLushhYYY]

I don't consider anyone 'special' to me. I'm not going to let someone control me or hold me down, sorry, YOLO.

You're preaching to the wrong group of people.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

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I'm so confused

You're preaching to the wrong group of people.

You're probably right. Your avatar is so black metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luFCBdS5PAs

 

[Absurdity]

I was going to state that, unlike you, i'm actually a nice person... but even the thought of that feels wrong. (Not that i'm not a nice person, I just won't claim I am, either.)

This was probably the most roundabout and annoying way you could have touted your supposed superiority.

Anyways, if I actually get into a relation with someone, i'll be rather honest and forreal with them. I'll talk to others, i'll ignore them when I don't want to talk to anyone, and I obviously can't stop my mind from thinking the things it thinks. But i'll be faithful, and I'll only be with them as long as I consider them to be 'special' to me. (I won't say in love, because... well, that's too emotional for me to understand well ;D). If i want to sleep around, i simply won't get into a relationship with them. Perhaps this is why i've never had a relationship... Whelp.

Anyways, if I actually get a girlfriend, I expect to be able to trust her. I wouldn't cheat on someone I can truly trust and understand, because in all honesty, the idea of being understood is harder to find than sex (to me). Besides, if I have a gf, I think it's fair to assume i'd get more sex than when I don't have one?... (actually, I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions, but it's probably a fair assumption regardless)

This was cute.

Regarding the first paragraph: Best laid plans of mice and men and all that jazz. You can say you will do this and that and think you have it all figured out until you're actually there and it all flies out the window.

Regarding the second paragraph: Sure it's easy to say you will trust her, and your rational mind probably will, but eating away at your sanity will be the nagging suspicion in the back of your mind when she goes out without you or whenever you aren't with her. And if you don't have this feeling, then you will probably be too dumb to notice when she actually does cheat on you, like I was.

Also, the reality is that the moment you are in a relationship you will find all sorts of girls who were never interested in you start noticing you, simply due to the fact that you are off the market and thus more difficult to attain. It will become significantly easier for you to get some because people want what they can't have, and you have become at least somewhat unattainable.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

Well I believe type results in physical characteristics, both as an experimental and theoretical result. Certainly most (all?) of the sensors I know are either muscled, overweight, or both. No mystery why that is, sensors like food and physical exercise - you know, physical acts.

INTP's tend toward the ectomorph. Again sitting around and thinking won't make you muscled. And INTP's tend to be picky eaters in my experience, or at least not big eaters. The mind works better on less food.

LOL! I like how you derail threads. Interesting...

I test as an INTP constantly, but I am not a picky eater at all, yet I eat a lot and work out every day practically. I also think there is a large stereotype that INTPs look like this:

Sitting around thinking also doesn't burn fat. If you're an INTP who eats a lot (because lets face it: food rocks), you'll probably end up looking more like that, though you can also look like this if you don't eat a lot:

 

[pjoa09]

Well I believe type results in physical characteristics, both as an experimental and theoretical result. Certainly most (all?) of the sensors I know are either muscled, overweight, or both. No mystery why that is, sensors like food and physical exercise - you know, physical acts.

INTP's tend toward the ectomorph. Again sitting around and thinking won't make you muscled. And INTP's tend to be picky eaters in my experience, or at least not big eaters. The mind works better on less food.

I don't know about that.

I mean, what if an INTP decided to work out and made a habit out of it?

What if an INTP just ate junk food while working?

I don't think its possible to generalize how an INTP or ISTP would look through their eating habits.

I prefer the Socionics outlook.

 

[SLushhYYY]

I'm so confused

Sensor alert.

 

[Crocket]

OP: Most people on here are probably too nice to state it this way but, you seem quite the cunt. Don't even bother asking me to explain this, Occam's Razor and all.

Being cheated on: Had my suspicions, nothing concrete. Wouldn't matter anymore if she did or didn't.

Cheating: Never. Take it as a point of pride to be honest. And I have a very fucking valid reason to do so.

Having sex with women who were in a relationship: Yes. The last two women I have been with had relationships. Be it VERY bad ones, could barely call it a relationship anymore. So gents, if you care about the woman you're with, treat 'em right. (And I don't mean "be nice", just do it right.)

@DeadonDreaming, after reading up on what you posted in this thread, I think you're just scared of true intimacy. Sure, it's easy waving your meat around and screaming "look at me, I'm bagging all these chicks and throwing them away like they're nothing more than last night's leftovers, and this is the way it should be". I don't think it is. If you were to have multiple relationships in which you AND the other parties knew what was going on, I'd even commend you on your skill. You'd be a freaking Mr. Miyagi. I know the drill dude, very few people are worthy of trust, so you try to beat em to the punch and hurt them before they can hurt you. Doesn't seem healthy in the long run.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

Sensor alert.

That is just mean, you take that back.

Spoiler

 

[DeadonDreaming]

OP: Most people on here are probably too nice to state it this way but, you seem quite the cunt. Don't even bother asking me to explain this, Occam's Razor and all.

Being cheated on: Had my suspicions, nothing concrete. Wouldn't matter anymore if she did or didn't.

Cheating: Never. Take it as a point of pride to be honest. And I have a very fucking valid reason to do so.

Having sex with women who were in a relationship: Yes. The last two women I have been with had relationships. Be it VERY bad ones, could barely call it a relationship anymore. So gents, if you care about the woman you're with, treat 'em right. (And I don't mean "be nice", just do it right.)

@DeadonDreaming, after reading up on what you posted in this thread, I think you're just scared of true intimacy. Sure, it's easy waving your meat around and screaming "look at me, I'm bagging all these chicks and throwing them away like they're nothing more than last night's leftovers, and this is the way it should be". I don't think it is. If you were to have multiple relationships in which you AND the other parties knew what was going on, I'd even commend you on your skill. You'd be a freaking Mr. Miyagi. I know the drill dude, very few people are worthy of trust, so you try to beat em to the punch and hurt them before they can hurt you. Doesn't seem healthy in the long run.

I'm more of an asshole. Get it right next time.

Anyway, I don't see why not cheating is a point of pride. That means its a shameful thing to cheat, correct? Kind of like someone say it is a point of pride to be heterosexual; between the lines it means its a shameful thing to be gay. Same bullshit.

And the second part, about you shagging some chick with a boyfriend: thats pretty cuntish behavior, if I do say so myself. I don't think I'd ever go that low. I mean, you should be a man and go confront him, if you want to pull something like that. Really, you have no right to judge me after that.

Um.. no, thats not it at all. Its not a trust thing at all. I'm just bored. Believe me, if I wanted to be intimate with these women, I would of. I really didn't want to, at all. If you read it in more detail, you would of also see that they knew what was going on, and kept it going. One of them kept sleeping with me, the other two offered. Also, the women who cheated with me knew what was happening, so judge them as well. Believe me, they were more than happy to put out, for whatever reason.

I'm not saying I trust most of the women I sleep with; I don't. Knowing how much females get around, I figure I can do the same thing as well. Since I have friends that I talk to in order to get things off my chest, interesting friends that I enjoy the company of, I really don't have any intimate need from the people I sleep with.

I'd never sleep with a man's woman. That is just low.

Though, who are either of us to judge? We live in a sexually liberated time. Why let other's expectations and social norms keep us down? We're doing what we want, in our own time. If it makes me a cunt to not let other people control me, so be it. I really don't care. It's all fun and games in the end.

From what I know of women, from my friends and from old girlfriends, they cheat all the time. Why would they offer me sex if they weren't willing to cheat? I didn't take them up on it, but I could of. Women cheat throughout relationships, at least from my small sampling of friends. Really, I'm not doing anything that they don't do, I'm just being very upfront about it. I don't think I hid it from anyone for very long. I'm just being honest.

I've had enough women show me how they manipulate men, showing me how they make fake profiles on Okcupid to troll them, or showing me how they get free drinks at bars. I felt so bad when one girl I was sleeping with went up to a guy, flirted with him, got a drink from him, then gave it to me after giving me a huge kiss. The guys face dropped to the ground. I really don't think I'm doing anything different :P And believe me, it feels great to be free.

That felt good to get off my chest. I feel great being honest. You can call me cuntish for saying how I feel, or what I did, but its an honest look at me, and anyone who puts themselves naked in front of the public is going to get some criticism. I really don't have anything to fear as long as I'm being honest. I have a feeling, actually I know because of the private messages I've received, that others feel similar to how I do. Take it or leave it.

As Adaire says...

To be clear.
I am not mocking males for showing sexual interest. By all means, continue to do so in a considerate and plain fashion. I'm mocking the manchildren who cannot accept that people have the right to make decisions for themselves. Playing nice upfront, but turning every woman who doesn't fuck him into a villain. It's a pity they're not as vocal irl, they'd be easier to avoid. If you're willing to lie and put up a front for sex, or even the ephemeral whisper of a possibility of sex, then I want nothing whatsoever to do with you. I'm certainly not going to have any pity when you inevitably get played.
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I have the right to make decisions for myself, and I'm not nice. I don't turn any women into a villain; they're just people with sexual needs. I don't put up a front. I've learned that most women think like this, and they mostly just want to have fun, so I'm just what the doctor ordered. We're in a sexually liberated time. I've read Adaire say that women don't owe men anything, and I think that is great! I really think they should do whatever they want. But by the same token, I don't owe anyone anything, and I do whatever I want. If you're going to call me a cunt, you really have to call the behavior of most people cuntish as well. I'm just trying to live my life before its over with.

Also, I expected to start a controversial thread, but calling someone a cunt? Uncalled for Mr. Girlfriend Stealer! We discuss ideas here, my friend.

 

[GYX_Kid]

Kick ass

 

[pjoa09]

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just kdding. No really, I am really not into amateur.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN




just kdding. No really, I am really not into amateur.

Ew. I'm underage.

 

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[Moocow]

Interesting. It is one of those things where I can see the moral relativism swinging so plausibly to either side and yet once a side is picked, people's rationalization powers work well overtime.

I don't think sex is a big deal at all, but investing a lot into a close companion and best friend is, which includes honoring their wishes if they mean enough to you. If that includes sexual exclusivity then it's just a matter of deciding how much unconstrained sex is worth.

There is also something to be said for committed monogamy, and the chance to learn and practice what works best for each other.

 

[Hadoblado]

Hmmm this is interesting. I don't find your line of thought offensive DOD, but I do find it alien. I am more of a social beast than your average INTP however, so this may not be saying much.

The dishonesty you perpetuate for the purpose of short-term and non-meaningful gain seems incredibly un-INTP. Regardless of your MBTI results, you may want to consider the possibility that you are not INTP (which is not necessarily a bad thing!).

 

[Fukyo]

OP: Most people on here are probably too nice to state it this way but, you seem quite the cunt. Don't even bother asking me to explain this, Occam's Razor and all.

I'd use the word douchebag.

 

[DarkRoom]

My experience is that women don't really care about getting cheated on. They'll keep having sex with you, being your girlfriend, etc. Sometimes they'll try even harder to please you.

That may be the most misogynistic load of crap I've ever read.

 

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That may be the most misogynistic load of crap I've ever read.

Agreed.

I've never cheated, never will.

 

[Hadoblado]

That may be the most misogynistic load of crap I've ever read.

It actually makes sense from an evolutionary functionalist perspective, though generalising it as a rule for all women is sort of cuntish.

I would not cheat on someone that I was in a relationship with, but I would steal someone else's girl if I did not respect their partner or the relationship they claim to have.

 

[Architect]

I don't know about that.

I mean, what if an INTP decided to work out and made a habit out of it?

Yes that can happen, but how many INTP's have the patience for that? What I and others have observed is that INTP's most frequently go into cycling and running - when they decide to take up exercise - because they can think while doing that. I've done both, long before I knew I was an INTP for just that reason. It was a great chance to get out of the house and get some thinking done. Another personal example is that I could never lift weights. It takes too much concentration, you can't think, you can't watch TV, you have to pay attention.

Looking at the kids in my street it's the Sensor ones who will play sports for 10 hours a day. My INTP kid is indoors reading or on the computer. Taking an example from Einstein, the most famous INTP, he enjoyed sailing because it was the one sport that he could be the most lazy. He used it as a way to unwind from a heavy day of thinking.

What if an INTP just ate junk food while working?

Possible, but INTP's (via Si) tend toward minimalism in food. I've not seen one yet who was overweight.

 

[BigApplePi]

Let's simplify this. If you want to have a close relationship with someone and care for them, sex is so intimate you don't want to share it. If you think of sex as a game and fun to play and have no need to be possessive (or care for this person) because you can get it anytime, then you will tolerate sharing. That's one outlook.

This is an unlikely contrast, but think of reading a book. If you like this book and want to be involved with it, you don't want to loan it out while you are interested. If you like the book but are not so involved other books are just as satisfying, you will be willing to loan it out.

 

[Etheri]

Great, you're nice, here is a medal.

Friends with benefits quickly lead to relationships. If you want sex, you're going to have to at least give the illusion of a relationship after a while. I don't consider anyone 'special' to me. I'm not going to let someone control me or hold me down, sorry, YOLO.

Yeah, it sounds like you have a lot of needs. Trust and someone understanding you? Good luck, that isn't the type of thing you'll find this world. You can always get a therapist for that, if you really need it.

I find it weird that you're commenting on this but you have 0 dating experience :P Just saying! Your ideal world and the real world are two different things.

Sorry. I take that 'special' part back. I do consider my female FRIENDS special to me, especially my neighbor for a year who has a boyfriend in northern California. I guess my "dating" persona is much different from my normal persona.

No, i've never gone into a relationship because I wasn't willing or capable of giving people what they wanted, and didn't want them to live the illusion. Have you had proper relationships? You don't care about them, they're nothing special. You call them relationships, I refuse to call them relationships and try to make that clear to the person i'm "with".

Friends with benefits does lead to relationships, but at that point (in all honesty, typically earlier, but hey), you make it clear (over and over again) that that isn't going to happen.

This was probably the most roundabout and annoying way you could have touted your supposed superiority.

This was cute.

Regarding the first paragraph: Best laid plans of mice and men and all that jazz. You can say you will do this and that and think you have it all figured out until you're actually there and it all flies out the window.

Regarding the second paragraph: Sure it's easy to say you will trust her, and your rational mind probably will, but eating away at your sanity will be the nagging suspicion in the back of your mind when she goes out without you or whenever you aren't with her. And if you don't have this feeling, then you will probably be too dumb to notice when she actually does cheat on you, like I was.

Also, the reality is that the moment you are in a relationship you will find all sorts of girls who were never interested in you start noticing you, simply due to the fact that you are off the market and thus more difficult to attain. It will become significantly easier for you to get some because people want what they can't have, and you have become at least somewhat unattainable.

Truth is, I do not mind your behaviour as in sleeping around, physical needs, etc. I just think you can actually tell them that it's not a serious relationship for you. There's no need to lead them on illusions, much less to then brag about it here. I wasn't stating superiority, as I said, i'm not nice and I'm driven by my own desires as much as you are, but I try to keep the ones I'm close to in mind. This thread is plain bragging about emotional sadism. Not to mention you're very clear that you don't want it happening to you, but don't mind doing it to them. Honestly, in this scenario, who exactly feels superior to who?

At trust, I meant it diffrently : If i trust someone, i'm not likely going to break that trust for sex. I find it rather hard to trust people, probably harder than getting laid. Idk, it makes sense to value trust over sex from my point of view. I realise she might still cheat on me, but I see no reason to cheat on her as long as I feel I can genuinly trust her. I guess from an INTP's standpoint, it makes sense to rather cherish your mind than your body. It's not that I won't get to my needs at all.

I know I'm far from perfect, and I know what I desire is an ideal (and thus an illusion), but I rather have it like this than calling anything a relation at will, perfectly well knowing it isn't, simply because it makes it easier to get girls into bed. Perfectly well knowing you will hurt them for, in essence, no reason. We both know that you might have to try a tad harder, but they'll sleep with you regardless of relationship.

I'd never sleep with a man's woman. That is just low.

And deliberately abusing naive girls and their emotions isn't? I see the sense you're making! (Not to mention you seem proud about it)

Either way, obviously, no hard feelings to (to either of you), I just have a completely diffrent stance on this. Again, I don't mind your actions, I get those. Just be honest with them girls about it, and it's all fine to me.

 

[Architect]

A few INTP profiles have said that we tend to be dedicated mates. Certainly the case for me, echoing skip I'd never cheat and never would. Too many emotional complications and entanglements as I said, and for what? I'd think about it too much and identify with the one being cheated on, especially since I had an emotional connection to her. Since Fe is in our inferior I can't see an INTP playing these games.

I've known deviant ISTP's who might, but usually they just take them as conquests and move on. Maybe an ISFP or ESFP would be the most likely to engage in this kind of behavior.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

It actually makes sense from an evolutionary functionalist perspective, though generalising it as a rule for all women is sort of cuntish.

I would not cheat on someone that I was in a relationship with, but I would steal someone else's girl if I did not respect their partner or the relationship they claim to have.

That may be the most misogynistic load of crap I've ever read.

Wait until you try it. They keep coming back for more. I even said my sample size was small, but from what I've heard its true in general. Sorry to bust your bubble about the fairer sex. The guy who gets laid the most is the one who doesn't care the most, and just does what he wants. Perfect freedom of expression.

I guess it could be bragging. I don't see anything wrong with that, but I didn't pull off anything amazing. Its something most guys can do. I've seen the ugliest guy pull the most amazing threesomes and foursomes, just by not caring and being interesting. So, take what you will from it.

 

[H1N1]

I think OP has power issues and more than likely feels incredibly insecure.

To answer the question about cheating: No. I have not cheated on a partner. If it gets to the point where I'm seriously considering damaging my relationship in an irreparable way, I generally end the relationship or talk to my partner about resolving whatever issues have come up that lead me to seriously consider infidelity. There is much more to relationships than sex as OP will come to find out.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

I think OP has power issues and more than likely feels incredibly insecure.

To answer the question about cheating: No. I have not cheated on a partner. If it gets to the point where I'm seriously considering damaging my relationship in an irreparable way, I generally end the relationship or talk to my partner about resolving whatever issues have come up that lead me to seriously consider infidelity. There is much more to relationships than sex as OP will come to find out.

I don't, but its funny when you go against the grain that people try to psychoanalyze you as a deviant. I think you have mommy issues and feel too insecure to do what I do; you're needy, I'm not. If I had power issues, I'd try to control, but I don't. I'm completely out of control, I have no control over these women. I'm the most non-controlling man there is.

Also, you don't have more experience than me, so please, knock off the bullshit about "the OP will come to find out". Thats so pretentious, considering you don't know how much experience I have (and if I did post it, I'd be accused of bragging).

 

[H1N1]

Bro you edited your post right as I'm about to reply. What the fuck??


@DeadonDreaming

 

[DeadonDreaming]

Bro you edited your post right as I'm about to reply. What the fuck??


@DeadonDreaming

I edit my posts when I have more to say, instead of posting another post. Stop having power issues, you controlling freak. Someone has insecurities, calm the fuck down. Do you follow your girlfriend to work too, psycho? Probably.

Now go cry that your world view of how people operate got smashed. Go cry into your fucking pillow.

 

[H1N1]

I edit my posts when I have more to say. Stop having power issues, you controlling freak. Someone has insecurities, calm the fuck down. Do you follow your partner to work too, psycho?

Hahahaha. Thank you for your unnecessary and ineffective insults.

I'm serious though and I'm only trying to help. I think you should introspect and find why you value sex much more than a meaningful relationship. It sounds like you spend the majority of your time chasing pussy and ruining any chance of a successful and healthy relationship you could have.

 

[Hadoblado]

If you think you are bursting bubbles, you are sadly mistaken. Some people may be the way you claim (in fact this is not really in dispute), but if in all of your sexual experience you have not come across someone that acted or felt different, then this would likely speak of a limitation in the scope of the field you play.

Hand over your swag card.

Edit: Oh man you edited out what I was responding to... now I look a right wank...

 

[DeadonDreaming]

Hahahaha. Thank you for your unnecessary and ineffective insults.

I'm serious though and I'm only trying to help. I think you should introspect and find why you value sex much more than a meaningful relationship. It sounds like you spend the majority of your time chasing pussy and ruining any chance of a successful and healthy relationship you could have.

I have meaningful relationships, with my platonic male and female friends, who I don't want ANY SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH AT ALL. I don't see why my intimacy should be tied to the person I'm having sex with. That's retarded, since we're going to want to screw other people soon enough, and we'll leave each other. Friends are forever (or practically). But of course, my partner wants more than that, and I'm never willing to give it. I'd be practically celibate if I just waited around for people who wanted open relationships, since most people are still stuck in the monogamy thing.

 

[Minuend]

Deadon is neither INTP nor ISTP.

I haven't really studied his posts, but that much has been obvious from the start. INTPs don't write and reasons like he does.

Not that it is either a good or a bad thing. It just is.

Interesting. It is one of those things where I can see the moral relativism swinging so plausibly to either side and yet once a side is picked, people's rationalization powers work well overtime.

Anything can be justified. And even if the OP says he's "just an asshole" he still keeps finding excuses for his behaviour. Humans never do anything without reasons or motivations. And he, like anyone else, needs to feel justified for his behaviour. It's actually kinda interesting how people work like that.

Though, it's the reason I don't trust "logic" either. Not that deadon is giving much a logical case. As Tuvok the Vulcan said "My logic was not in error...but I was".

Well, the bottom line is, he's further destroying other people's lives. People often spend the majority of their lives trying to recover from such incidents.

 

[Hadoblado]

I have meaningful relationships, with my platonic male and female friends, who I don't want ANY SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH AT ALL. I don't see why my intimacy should be tied to the person I'm having sex with. That's retarded, since we're going to want to screw other people soon enough, and we'll leave each other. Friends are forever (or practically). But of course, my partner wants more than that, and I'm never willing to give it. I'd be practically celibate if I just waited around for people who wanted open relationships, since most people are still stuck in the monogamy thing.

And that's entirely fine, but wouldn't it be nice if both parties were aware of this eventuality before hand? I think you'd be surprised at just how many people are interested in having sex without having a relationship.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

And that's entirely fine, but wouldn't it be nice if both parties were aware of this eventuality before hand? I think you'd be surprised at just how many people are interested in having sex without having a relationship.

I try, but it always leads to one. Almost always. I don't know what to do. Most of my relationships I don't cheat, but I spend the entire time after 3 or 4 weeks bored, but still hanging around for sex when I need it. This is like 3 times out of 30+.

I think, as a society, especially for women, they can't just sleep around without being labelled. You don't get too many that are down for open relationships, maybe this is the reason.

But anyway, I might of posted earlier in another thread about a month ago that I'm only looking for friends with benefits from now on. I think I also posted my philosophy about all this in that same thread. I've always disclosed when I cheated, since I felt bad about it, and am trying to avoid these situations from here on out, since I have some sort of conscience about it.

I think you also have to take into account that the other women KNEW I was in a relationship, and were jumping at the chance to sleep with me (funnily, before I was in a relationship, they seemed rather cold). It takes two to tango. If I'm bad, then realize there are three other people out there who will steal your boyfriend. If everyone is doing it, its not really a sin, I just posted about it, which was the bad part.

 

[Fukyo]

Now go cry that your world view of how people operate got smashed.

Well, that's a nice cop-out.

"People are condemning my behavior and views because I smashed their worldview!"

Personally, I couldn't care less if the women really want it, my opinion is unaffected by that.

I don't, but its funny when you go against the grain that people try to psychoanalyze you as a deviant.

People are reacting this way because they don't approve of your behavior and/or attitude irrespective of whether it goes against grain. That might be hard to accept if you're completely certain that you're right, (or if you can't take judgement) so it must be the fault of everyone else...

Btw, I'll clarify something to you. I wouldn't have a problem calling "most people" douchebags, (and I don't necessarily consider something to be OK if "everyone's doing it") however the reason why I condemned you wasn't because of the cheating by itself, but because of your selfishly disregardful attitude conveyed by the OP, and because it was assholish to "rub it in" to the other guys.


While this isn't strictly on topic, I think mocking guys who aren't hitting anything tends to make them into true assholes...

 

[Deleted member 1424]

I don't know why you're quoting me.
You're neither considerate or honest.
Indeed you keep saying you're upfront and then go on to say 'that they just didn't get it' or demonstrate blatantly deceitful (and unkind) behavior. You've acted in a far from ethical manner and are not justified in the slightest. You're giving non-monagamous people a bad name. If you're so talented with women you should be able to demonstrate benevolence while living a sexually unrestrained existence. You seem to have choosen to be cruel, regardless of sex.

What happens if you contract an std (or if you already have one)?
Are you going to inform your partners or spread it around with the justification that you are a 'sexually liberated asshole?'

@the thread topic
When I was younger and indecisive I entered into a few exclusive relationships against my better judgement, but I never cheated.