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I definitely felt that way about some of "Naked Lunch".

Oh god. The literary police are going to come after you.
I felt that way the first ten pages of Naked Lunch, so I shelved it. :o

I made it through Infinite Jest because that had characters, heart, and insight into its frivolity.
 
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Edit: Sorry, you edited it. Yeah, its hard to hear the joke.
It's a perfect portrayal; procedes to bitch a fit and roll around afterward begging for more, amirite?
 

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DeadonDreaming's pov, as portrayed by cats (<-interwebz ftw!) in video form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7Ujd7RDg9g#t=0m57s

Turn up the volume.
And that's how kittens are made. :cat:

It also seemed like Ms. Kitty wanted to orally eradicate that creampie asap.
That screech will linger in my nightmares for many years. :phear:

Yeah, that probably accurately chronicles/allegorizes DOD's licentious experiences.
 
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Hmm..


I like you DeadonDreaming.
You're my kind of INTP.



Thanks for the thread, btw. It's interesting to see the objection to devious behavior in a crowd full of people of whom none fit in with the Social Storyline.


that is to say; what separates one strong emotion from another, really ?
The most turbulent and wild "relationships" I've been in have usually been the ones where the woman develops the most emotions, gets the most emotional Highs (not to be confused with the INTP emotional Higgs, (our rarely observed emotions for those who don't speak Pun) ), and generally had the most benefit from.


As such, cheating, drama all that bullshit, is in it's own right brilliant stuff.


I've had to throw one woman out of my apartment in order for another one to come visit, and been completely open about it with the first one, only to find they both would still have sex with me... knowing that I had "cheated" on the second woman, who for some reason had decided on her own that we were in a "relationship" and she "loved" me, with the first one who I really liked much better.



The only thing I find slightly reproachable is the hypocrisy, in not tolerating that the girls have sex with others as well....
that's just poor self-confidence showing through as jealousy.
(if it is jealousy. I know I get really turned off by the thought that the girl may have had unprotected sex with other dudes, which is why I'm going for the whole "Condoms all the time" thing. it also helps rid you of dumb over-protective shit, and lets you think of the girl as another individual when you don't hold hands skipping into STD-and-Pregnancy-land. by that I mean, you don't necessarily both catch stupid bullshit of casual encounters. )





But still; I'm actually surprised that not more INTPs are openly sexually deviant (in this case, deviant means not following the Group-think model of: Moonogamy > doing whatever feels right for you. )

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And that's how kittens are made. :cat:

It also seemed like Ms. Kitty wanted to orally eradicate that creampie asap.
That screech will linger in my nightmares for many years. :phear:

Yeah, that probably accurately chronicles/allegorizes DOD's licentious experiences.
It's all about the baculum:


I really just needed an excuse to post the video
 

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Maybe there should be straw manning courts on this forum. Pleading guilty could lead to a lack of temp ban. This forum is supposed to be a place where arguments or statements can be addressed for what they actually are, and it's not.

Criticize or express a view on someone for being deceitful in a way destructive to the psyche of others and possibly the person engaged in the behavior and get an answer as if one's objections have to do with things one never mentioned, like general societal relationship structure norms or sexual behavior norms.

Arguing against what are assumed to be views of the person expressing something beyond what the person's statements explicitly express should be punishable by temp ban and a change of the avatar title to the dumbest and in hindsight presumably most embarrassing part of the utterances involved in the offense against logical discourse.

just kidding.

yolo

swag out
 
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Hmm..


I like you DeadonDreaming.
You're my kind of INTP.



Thanks for the thread, btw. It's interesting to see the objection to devious behavior in a crowd full of people of whom none fit in with the Social Storyline.


that is to say; what separates one strong emotion from another, really ?
The most turbulent and wild "relationships" I've been in have usually been the ones where the woman develops the most emotions, gets the most emotional Highs (not to be confused with the INTP emotional Higgs, (our rarely observed emotions for those who don't speak Pun) ), and generally had the most benefit from.


As such, cheating, drama all that bullshit, is in it's own right brilliant stuff.


I've had to throw one woman out of my apartment in order for another one to come visit, and been completely open about it with the first one, only to find they both would still have sex with me... knowing that I had "cheated" on the second woman, who for some reason had decided on her own that we were in a "relationship" and she "loved" me, with the first one who I really liked much better.



The only thing I find slightly reproachable is the hypocrisy, in not tolerating that the girls have sex with others as well....
that's just poor self-confidence showing through as jealousy.
(if it is jealousy. I know I get really turned off by the thought that the girl may have had unprotected sex with other dudes, which is why I'm going for the whole "Condoms all the time" thing. it also helps rid you of dumb over-protective shit, and lets you think of the girl as another individual when you don't hold hands skipping into STD-and-Pregnancy-land. by that I mean, you don't necessarily both catch stupid bullshit of casual encounters. )





But still; I'm actually surprised that not more INTPs are openly sexually deviant (in this case, deviant means not following the Group-think model of: Moonogamy > doing whatever feels right for you. )

:smoker:
I get tested every sexual partner or two, so every 6 months on average, some times I get lazy and go for a couple partners that I feel are "safe" but I try to keep it twice a year. I keep the paper on me, and bring it out the morning after. I've never had sex without a condom, except anal, but I'm going to change that.

You're right, I shouldn't be hypocritical. I'm just buying into what other people say I should: be a protective male, yet I'm promiscuous. I can't have it both ways. So, I won't from now on. I was thinking over it this entire thread, and wondering if I really meant that. Its the only thing I can think of and ask myself, "Do I really think that, or is someone telling me I have to think that?". I don't have to be anything.
 

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Aww, I miss the literary interlude. :p

I could see Hunter Thompson in DoD, more than Burroughs and Gibson anyway.

Got to agree re: post-modernism to. Some of the ideas are brilliant, but I don't read many that are delivered well.

Thanks for the thread, btw. It's interesting to see the objection to devious behavior in a crowd full of people of whom none fit in with the Social Storyline.
Deviating from the norm doesn't equal no responsibilities to other people. The responses seemed reasonable to me, though it's pretty clear he's baiting so I don't know why so many have bothered.
 
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Aww, I miss the literary interlude. :p

I could see Hunter Thompson in DoD, more than Burroughs and Gibson anyway.

Got to agree re: post-modernism to. Some of the ideas are brilliant, but I don't read many that are delivered well.



Deviating from the norm doesn't equal no responsibilities to other people. The responses seemed reasonable to me, though it's pretty clear he's baiting so I don't know why so many have bothered.

I've always identified with him, especially his love of guns and psychedelics. They're the best rushes in life.

I'm not baiting right now :cat:
 

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I've always identified with him, especially his love of guns and psychedelics. They're the best rushes in life.

I'm not baiting right now :cat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkWupnH8Uvs

I think Depp overrates him a tad (the most important writer of the 20th century, really? :phear:) I thought he did a pretty good job acting him in Gilliam's adaption of Fear and Loathing though.
 

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Ewww this thread is not purity and abstinence at all. :rip:

I'm a chaste kitty. :cat: :phear:
Same. I'm never going to give up my purity. Why be filthy. Filthiness is gross.

I'm not gross, I'm pure.

I hope you guys admire my greatly admirable purity. I mean, I'm not looking down on you guys or anything, I'm just looking up at myself and I think it would be good your self-esteem to be more like me. I'm gorgeous and all the men want to have sex with me but I don't want to have sex because it's filthy and bad.

I will date you if you give me gifts (Which you will, because I'm worth it. I'm gorgeous and pretty). I won't have sex with you though. I'm too proud to stoop to that level. I mean, I'm not a whore, am I?

Prostitutes are so filthy, ew. A woman who can't keep her sexuality in check is gross.

I like elephants :elephant:


PS: I'm worth a lot.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkWupnH8Uvs

I think Depp overrates him a tad (the most important writer of the 20th century, really? :phear:) I thought he did a pretty good job acting him in Gilliam's adaption of Fear and Loathing though.
I do too. I don't think he was the most important writer, though I think he wrote what it is like to do psychedelics better than anyone I've ever read. Very stream of consciousness, not trying to take it apart, but just going with it.
 
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Same. I'm never going to give up my purity. Why be filthy. Filthiness is gross.

I'm not gross, I'm pure.

I hope you guys admire my greatly admirable purity. I mean, I'm not looking down on you guys or anything, I'm just looking up at myself and I think it would be good your self-esteem to be more like me. I'm gorgeous and all the men want to have sex with me but I don't want to have sex because it's filthy and bad.

I will date you if you give me gifts (Which you will, because I'm worth it. I'm gorgeous and pretty). I won't have sex with you though. I'm too proud to stoop to that level. I mean, I'm not a whore, am I?

Prostitutes are so filthy, ew. A woman who can't keep her sexuality in check is gross.

I like elephants :elephant:


PS: I'm worth a lot.
Hahahaha nice sarcasm. :D
I always love intpforum because INTPs are sooo...
troll :phear:

Ahahaha I just checked your profile, you're an INTJ too. :cat:
 

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I've already chose a boyfriend, and you didn't give me anything for my birthday. :phear:
Here's some :yaoi: for your birthday.

Now we can engage in the pleasurable activity that is the dance of you receiving as many compliments, pleasantries, gifts and generally self worth assessment boosting gestures and cozy sessions of chattery over cups of tea from me as you can before I give up on the pursuit of the gifting to me of the purest and highest value set of genitals ever to grace the surface of the earth and perhaps even the space that makes up the entire universe.
 
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Here's some :yaoi: for your birthday.

Now we can engage in the pleasurable activity that is the dance of you receiving as many compliments, pleasantries, gifts and generally self worth assessment boosting gestures and cozy chatter over cups of tea from me as you can before I give up on the pursuit of the gifting to me of the purest and highest value set of genitals ever to grace the surface of the earth and perhaps even the space that makes up the entire universe.
I'm new to this. :phear:
I thought that you're new. :eek:
But you sound like an ascended master. :kilroy:
 

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Yes that can happen, but how many INTP's have the patience for that? What I and others have observed is that INTP's most frequently go into cycling and running - when they decide to take up exercise - because they can think while doing that. I've done both, long before I knew I was an INTP for just that reason. It was a great chance to get out of the house and get some thinking done. Another personal example is that I could never lift weights. It takes too much concentration, you can't think, you can't watch TV, you have to pay attention.

Looking at the kids in my street it's the Sensor ones who will play sports for 10 hours a day. My INTP kid is indoors reading or on the computer. Taking an example from Einstein, the most famous INTP, he enjoyed sailing because it was the one sport that he could be the most lazy. He used it as a way to unwind from a heavy day of thinking.
I do run my condo's staircase time to time I suffer from that commitment issue. I often feel like going to my computer and sit about.

What is very Se about me is that I enjoy precision in sensory overload. Go-karting and playing basketball have that. They are two sports that involve quick precise moves and quick judgement. Although, now I have grown out of basketball.



Possible, but INTP's (via Si) tend toward minimalism in food. I've not seen one yet who was overweight.
How does Si do that? I am just overweight according to BMI. I tend to eat the same junk over and over again. Sometimes buy junk as an excuse for taking a stroll.
 

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There's no need to cheat... Be real... create truth as your foundation and you'll be true to yourself and your partner creating a solid foundation on which to build your relationship... You may be having fun now, but without a sustainable relationship, you'll end up feeling like shit because you've never learned who or what love is, creating a sacred spiritual bond. Instead, they're merely an object for you to use and throw away like any modern appliance ...
 

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I thought that you're new. :eek:
But you sound like an ascended master. :kilroy:
Oh you... :o

I thought I was the one who was supposed to shower you with compliments.

Have the tables turned? I am so inexplicably embarrassed.

I hold my cute hands before my cute face and blush and make cute noises of the sort indicative of a mixture of nervousness and infatuation.
 
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Oh you... :o

I thought I was the one who was supposed to shower you with compliments.

Have the tables turned? I am so inexplicably embarrassed.

I hold my cute hands before my cute face and blush and make cute noises of the sort indicative of a mixture of nervousness and infatuation.
Ahahahaha are you drunk? :storks:

How cute are your hands? Are you a hobbit too? :D
 
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I'm more surprised by the narrow-mindedness and coy ad hominem attacks apropos sport fucking, on an otherwise liberal forum, than wanton sexual conduct. As Bukowski would say, your life is your life. :slashnew:
Says the guy who insults people in every other post. The OP is actually the one who has been bringing the most personal attacks in this thread.

But still; I'm actually surprised that not more INTPs are openly sexually deviant (in this case, deviant means not following the Group-think model of: Moonogamy > doing whatever feels right for you. )
Actually, monogamy is the thing that feels right to a lot of people. They don't want or need random sex and prefer it when there's an emotional attachment. Well, even I as a poly prefer emotional connection to my partners. I have no problem with people who sexes around emotionlessly. The only problem is when it might potentially damage someone for years to come.

http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=1737

There's always a reason behind people's actions. Even those who seem willing to screw their own lives up.

Though, I'm curious about your indifference to the negative consequences one might bring others. Are there limits to how far you will hurt someone (I assume you are okay with hurting people as it it what the OP encourages). Is it all fair game? And I don't mean just in relationships. In work, everyday life. Stealing, violence, using people all to ones desire. Do you draw a line anywhere? I'm curious as to how the psychology and reasoning behind such behaviour is.

This might sound passive aggressive. But I'm actually curious. I haven't ad hominemded anyone in this thread and I'm not planning on starting.

Deviating from the norm doesn't equal no responsibilities to other people. The responses seemed reasonable to me, though it's pretty clear he's baiting so I don't know why so many have bothered.
Sometimes one think people will eventually present arguments. Oh well. I think people read too much emotion into my posts. Even though I think they seem quite neutral.
 
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Cuter than a buttoned up button. Perhapsness on the hobbitry. Revealing one's exact degree of hobbitness is not behavior befitting of a lady.
Awwww... are you my precious? :o
Actually I always want to have a Russian precious, but I'm open to any possibility. :phear:
 

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Says the guy who insults people in every other post. The OP is actually the one who has been bringing the most personal attacks in this thread.
Sure I insult people but I seldom outright preach or excoriate people's lifestyles. Again, your life is your life. I'm basically libertarian in outlook; I'm definitely no reformer. Proselytizing is boring. :smoker:
 

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Awwww... are you my precious? :o
Actually I always want to have a Russian precious, but I'm open to any possibility. :phear:
As you are well aware, considerably more effort than has been currently invested would be necessary for me to call myself yours :phear:

I do have standards, you know? If I let you call me yours after such a low amount of courting, what would people think of me? More importantly, what would I think of me?
We both know this Russian precious is precious enough for more :vic-girl:
 
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As you are well aware, considerably more effort than has been currently invested would be necessary for me to call myself yours :phear:

I do have standards, you know? If I let you call me yours after such a low amount of courting, what would people think of me? More importantly, what would I think of me?
We both know this Russian precious is precious enough for more :vic-girl:
I've never call you as mine, you know. ;)
 
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Says the guy who insults people in every other post. The OP is actually the one who has been bringing the most personal attacks in this thread.



Actually, monogamy is the thing that feels right to a lot of people. They don't want or need random sex and prefer it when there's an emotional attachment. Well, even I as a poly prefer emotional connection to my partners. I have no problem with people who sexes around emotionlessly. The only problem is when it might potentially damage someone for years to come.

http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=1737

There's always a reason behind people's actions. Even those who seem willing to screw their own lives up.

Though, I'm curious about your indifference to the negative consequences one might bring others. Are there limits to how far you will hurt someone (I assume you are okay with hurting people as it it what the OP encourages). Is it all fair game? And I don't mean just in relationships. In work, everyday life. Stealing, violence, using people all to ones desire. Do you draw a line anywhere? I'm curious as to how the psychology and reasoning behind such behaviour is.

This might sound passive aggressive. But I'm actually curious. I haven't ad hominemded anyone in this thread and I'm not planning on starting.



Sometimes one think people will eventually present arguments. Oh well. I think people read too much emotion into my posts. Even though I think they seem quite neutral.


Anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY798g608Xw
 
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Hmm. Apparently curiosity and the desire to understand is not welcome in deadondreamind world.

I don't know why you get so upset, dod. The closest thing I came to insulting you were comparing your thread to the banana dance.

You are kinda like snaufu, who seems to have a grudge against me ever since I insulted him like half a year ago. I've decided to try to mature and try to stop that. He seems very persistent in taking his dislike towards me with him into every "debate". (This gobbling doesn't really qualify as a debate). Why the lingering emotions, bro? Move on in life, yolo

Well , seeing how some guys think, I feel extra lucky finding someone who is the exact opposite <3<3 :)
 
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Hmm. Apparently curiosity and the desire to understand is not welcome in deadondreamind world.

I don't know why you get so upset, dod. The closest thing I came to insulting you were comparing your thread to the banana dance.

You are kinda like snaufu, who seems to have a grudge against me ever since I insulted him like half a year ago. I've decided to try to mature and try to stop that. He seems very persistent in taking his dislike towards me with him into every "debate". (This gobbling doesn't really qualify as a debate). Why the lingering emotions, bro? Move on in life, yolo

Well , seeing how some guys think, I feel extra lucky finding someone who is the exact opposite <3<3 :)
You don't understand my arguments, so after a while its like arguing with a religious fundamentalist; every argument goes over their head. Notice the nazi joke? You didn't understand it, along with a number of other things. Besides, I don't feel the need to argue, I already understand, you don't. In the end, what I do sexually is based chiefly on emotion and feeling, and any argument about that is dead in the water before being said, since emotions and sexuality are anything but rational. Arguing or judging things is obviously a waste of time, since the reptile mind that says "Do this" doesn't need justification to do what it does. So, schooling you aside, the rest of my comments will just be jokes.

I think arguments should be left to the realm of science and math. There is a realm where it actually matters. Human interaction? Not so much. Even when people justify their actions, in the end you can be pretty sure they did it "because they felt like it", and there really is no need to go beyond that.

I'm not uspet at all. You're just reading into it your own thoughts. I was more perplexed how you interpret what people type, and how you expect other people's view of the world to be like your own. Generalizations (unless they're useful, since induction is our only way of figuring out more of the world, we have to judge any piece of information about people in social settings by how well they stand up to repeated testing, and even then we might just need a bigger sample size to have something that totally messed up our results), and asking people "In a hypothetical situation, what would you do?" seem like a waste of time. Maybe people do or do not want to be monogamous, but I don't. Maybe I am ruining their lives, but they keep coming back for more and more abuse. It's also impossible for me to tell you what I would do, where I would draw the line, but I have told you what has happened in the past, and you can draw your own conclusions from that. I don't even know what I'm going to do in the next moment, and I don't think about it because I surprise myself sometimes.

Huh? I don't have any grudge against you. You just think everyone does because you have some sort of bias for that. You've attributed something to both me and Snafu that is probably incorrect, based off your own need to be important (See how I did that? I have no idea, theres no way I can really understand you. Maybe you're just crazy.) Emotions? Huh? See, thats why its not useful to get into a debate with you, you jump to odd conclusions.

Good for you, go fuck him in the ass :]
 
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Maybe she will.

Only thoughtful, caring, intelligent and self-aware women may have my booty.


*wiggles it*
Ahhh! See, I thought Minuend was a guy, but after posting that I was like "Maybe I should edit that in case he is a she. Oh well, I'll just leave it, since it seems most of the time we assume the other person is male anyway. I haven't read enough of his/her posts to come to a conclusion, so I'll just leave it, since there are other things I want to type" The things we conclude when we don't have enough information... Even I'm guilty of it.

Ah! This was supposed to be a joke. Motherfucker. God damn it you fucking cat.

 
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You don't understand my arguments, so after a while its like arguing with a religious fundamentalist; every argument goes over their head.

Besides, I don't feel the need to argue, I already understand, you don't.
Are you sure I'm the religious one?

I never claimed to understand. In fact, my knowledge and understanding is quite limited. Much like the rest of humanity. Imagine even how limited just our vision and hearing are. How easily we fall prey to optical illusions. How media affects us, how tiny details about someone changes our entire perspective of them.

No, humans lack understanding and objectivity.

Also, have you considered the possibility that the lack of understanding might have something to do with how you express yourself?

In the end, what I do sexually is based chiefly on emotion and feeling, and any argument about that is dead in the water before being said, since emotions and sexuality are anything but rational.
Humans are anything but rational.

I'm not uspet at all. You're just reading into it your own thoughts.

Huh? I don't have any grudge against you. You just think everyone does because you have some sort of bias for that. Emotions? Huh? See, thats why its not useful to get into a debate with you, you jump to odd conclusions.
Respect my right to stick my penis wherever I want, and not have to give a detailed or truthful account of where its been. Nazis.

Social contract my ass, you're still going to go down on me after I tell you that I cheated on you, and I'm going to enjoy every moment of it. I guess we're back at "friends with benefits"

My reasoning can, but there is no reason to argue, since I sincerely don't give a fuck, and you can't seem to follow a train of reasoning worth shit.

Anyway...


I CHEATED ON MY GIRLFRIEND AND LOVED EVERY FUCKING MOMENT OF IT.

Good for you, go fuck him in the ass :]

http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=322058&postcount=5

I'll leave it for spectators to decide for themselves whether you are letting your emotions get the better of you.

Maybe she will.

Only thoughtful, caring, intelligent and self-aware women may have my booty.


*wiggles it*
*Creeps onto Latte and strokes him*

*Huggles*

Mew mew :3
 
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Are you sure I'm the religious one?

I never claimed to understand. In fact, my knowledge and understanding is quite limited. Much like the rest of humanity. Imagine even how limited just our vision and hearing are. How easily we fall prey to optical illusions. How media affects us, how tiny details about someone changes our entire perspective of them.

No, humans lack understanding and objectivity.

Also, have you considered the possibility that the lack of understanding might have something to do with how you express yourself?



Humans are anything but rational.





I'll leave it for spectators to decide for themselves whether you are letting your emotions get the better of you.



*Creeps onto Latte and strokes him*

*Huggles*

Mew mew :3
I think I just tried in the most plain, crude language to express what I said above:



After your repeated misunderstandings. The first post was in reference to you misunderstanding just about everything about my reasoning, and the rest was just me misunderstanding you had a vagina. Really though, it doesn't matter what spectators think, since masses of people think burning crosses is a great idea, or that Hitler was the next Messiah.
 
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Well, no. They were mostly attacks hidden by the excuse of being jokes.

In the end, they are just tricks to avoid the real issue.

Btw, why didn't you try to clear up the misunderstanding?
 

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I've never had sex without a condom, except anal, but I'm going to change that.
I would never feel clean after that.
 
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Well, no. They were mostly attacks hidden by the excuse of being jokes.

In the end, they are just tricks to avoid the real issue.

Btw, why didn't you try to clear up the misunderstanding?


I would never feel clean after that.
YOU'RE NOT CLEAN, FUCKING DEAL WITH IT, JESUS BIRTHED YOU DIRTY AND YOU'LL LIVE LIKE A PIG FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. MEN ARE PIGS. DIE.

I mean, pee comes out of it if it makes you feel any better :P
 
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