Cannabalism in China

[Raison D'etre]

http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/china.html

http://www.weirdasianews.com/2007/04/02/cannibalism-in-china-acceptable-if-for-health/

This is disgusting...

EDIT: I meant cannibalism.

 

[Tyria]

Shampoo during sometime in the past (maybe last 30 years) had on the bottle 'protein from a natural source'. One of those sources included children; they have changed things now, but it was done before. Very sad.

 

[Felan]

I must confess that I am conflicted about this. I am revolted at the idea of eating babies. I worry about the potential for disease, which is the biggest non-moral reason against cannibalism.

But with aborted infants perhaps the disease angle isn't a big risk and I wonder if it is a better use (even though I doubt it works) for the remains than treating it as medical waste. Especially with a population as large as China's in an area comparable to the US. I really don't want baby bits in my health products though ... so at the very least label it.

But then I'm only 5% sane, now.

 

[Anthile]

Although all my senses scream in terror and that I will need lots of raspberry brain soap to wash all those images away, these children are already dead, right? Okay, the forced abortions don't make it better...
But if they are already deadand there was no way that they could have been saved, then I see no problem there. Except that I never want to meet someone who enjoys meals like this.
From my point of view factories for killing animals are much worse, but that is not the right thread to rant about vegetarism.

And now excuse me please, my appetite is about to commit suicide.

 

[Mars]

well. considering that there is a little something called a soul in a person that does tend to stick around[cemeteries in old England were built to contain the souls of the dead], this while being not barbaric in the sense of actively acquiring the fetuses is none the less offensive to my sensibilities, some things in my eyes are sacred. To me the body of another being consumed is subject to cultural norms and context, cultural through eating of the dead [unprovoked death] and contextual through do or die[no other source of food].

while it may have a preserving effect on the human body and is apparently good for physical health I would have no compunction for administering any manner of medical research upon such people. The fact that they are ashamed to admit their culinary habits is proof enough that it is not natural and I don't care who would raise the gauntlet for a definition of natural.

Besides what is preventing someone from studying the components that make up said questionable culinary additive and deride the relevant components from a floral origin.

While there is the time honoured tradition of eating an enemies heart to gain their strength, it strikes me as a crude method of assimilating a combatants skills. This concept in its own right under the guise of the mentioned martial tradition is completely self destructive, not only does it take to ingestion of all parts of the foetus there is no argument that it will not have a degradative effect on the assimilator. Due in whole if not in part to the insubstantial form and complete lack of a 'person' if only through lack of personality it leaves an open ended melding of the ingested material, concisely concluding it would be folly to attempt to abscond with anothers skills if in the first place the origins lack any definable characteristics. while I do not abdicate eugenics and do believe whole heartedly that all have a place under the sun to call their own to the exclusion of all others this medicinal concept when applied to foetustes at minimum will have a psychological impact that will leave the person assimilating compromised in conviction of character if only thorugh the lack of a definable objective of individual derivation [character of foetus] leaving them vein and some part less noble than prior to the outset of this culinary endeavour.

Oh, how I would love to perform all manner of profiling and esoteric experiments in the skein of josef mengele upon such individuals, applying the understandings of denounced studies like phrenology upon such individuals in a biased manner would asuage my soul. As someones avatar on this forum so concisely poses it: I will do science to it.

But I guess i'll just have to be happy with living my own life devoid of such depravities. All the better for it, these people would just waste my time.

 

[Fleur]

In the articles it was said that the embryos are used as a nutrient source because Chinese people believe that using them as food is good for their health – I don’t know how legitimate this vision actually is, but it might be stated that this situation is also a great example on how people are willing to take a risk by using doubtful means.

Also, when commenting on the morality standpoint, I have to remind that the moral values may differ. In the most of forum member’s societies cannibalism is seen as something undesirable and disgusting, but in the same time there are many cultures which sees it as completely normal process for various reasons (Mars already mentioned an example which would fall under the reason of belief).
Moreover, under very severe circumstances, like famine, a lot of people choose to commit the act of cannibalism, even if it would normally be against their moral principles; at conditions like those eating the dead comrades could be even seen as a normal behaviour (in fact, back again at “hunter-gatherer times” humans might have been semi-scavengers); besides there are know some cannibalistic species (pigs, if an example is needed), so the statement that cannibalism is entirely unnatural wouldn’t be exactly right.

I think that the main explanation why humans are prone to cannibalism only in special occasions is the psychological bonds they form with each other – if a human being would be forced to eat other human being then they most likely are going to choose somebody they don’t know.

(And – no, I do not support cannibalism.)

 

[Concojones]

I don't think I'm gonna check this out, nor read any further comments.

 

[severus]

'You can also make meat cakes by mixing foetuses with minced meat but you have to add more ginger and chives to get rid of the smell.'

-Is it really good?
-Sir, it's too good at least.
Then again, they don't commit sins of the flesh,
so it's pretty fresh.

 

[Jordan~]

Emotivism comes to mind.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

All other situational factors aside, meat is meat, just molecules bound into proteins.
The only thing I have against cannibalism is personal preference, I like beef and lamb.

Although all my senses scream in terror and that I will need lots of raspberry brain soap to wash all those images away, these children are already dead, right? Okay, the forced abortions don't make it better...

The morality of how the meat was obtained is always an issue and the psychological harm that can come from committing cannibalism is still a relevant factor. But when people are starving and a food source is available...

 

[Beat Mango]

Gosh I wish I didn't see those pics. I'm just going to believe that they're fake

 

[Tyria]

Even if it is 'meat', it is a human. Unless I am mistaken, they are eating humans for 'health' and not because they need to. Even if it is a cultural thing, I still have to say it screams of being 'wrong' to me. It disturbs me to see humans eating each other; even violence against each other bothers me. I'm just very sensitive to things like that, and it almost hurts to see it.

Even if it is fake, it is a very bad joke (I was going to say it was in poor taste, but that seemed to be a bad idea in this thread given the topic).

 

[brain enclosed in flesh]

I am with you on this one, Crimson Knight. I will not look at whatever the links are. I don't want to be overly broad, especially since I haven't looked, but I do know there is a lot of desecration of other species as well that falls under the category of "Traditional Chinese Medicine". There are places where you draw the line and tolerance is no longer.... tolerant.

 

[didyouknow]

I believe we have to respect the dead. Sure, medical waste isn't a nice resting place, but it's a hell of a lot better than soaking in some guy's gastric juices.

It would be different if it were a life or death situation...

 

[Anthile]

Mind you that they don't do that because they are so evil. It's their culture, their tradition. Someday someone decided to do that practice. I guess because they had nothing else to eat.
How many things we do must seem gross and disgusting to the Chinese? So much what we call culture and tradition... almost no one knows why we do that all. The true meaning of things often got lost over the ages. The archetypical symbolism is still prevalent in everything and visible for those who know what they have to look for.


Also, we eat rotten milk and call it cheese, we drink yeast excrement and call it beer.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

I was going to say it was in poor taste, but that seemed to be a bad idea in this thread given the topic

If we can't be shamelessly politically incorrect for the sake of humour how will our society's derived moral conventions evolve?

loosen up, life shouldn't be taken too seriously.

 

[Felan]

Mind you that they don't do that because they are so evil. It's their culture, their tradition. Someday someone decided to do that practice. I guess because they had nothing else to eat.
How many things we do must seem gross and disgusting to the Chinese? So much what we call culture and tradition... almost no one knows why we do that all. The true meaning of things often got lost over the ages. The archetypical symbolism is still prevalent in everything and visible for those who know what they have to look for.


Also, we eat rotten milk and call it cheese, we drink yeast excrement and call it beer.

We also spank monkeys!

 

[Ulysses]

Might I also point out that the credibility of "The Heretical Press" and "Weird Asia News" seems pretty questionable to me. Personally, I don't bother voicing my opinion on anything unless I'm getting the full story.

 

[Tyria]

If we can't be shamelessly politically incorrect for the sake of humour how will our society's derived moral conventions evolve?

loosen up, life shouldn't be taken too seriously.

I'm not all into being politically correct, but I was a bit upset at seeing people eating babies. If I hadn't seen the pictures, I might have been a bit easier on the issue. The pictures put things into more perspective than my mind could though; I could register that it was happening because I saw it (assuming it is not a joke).

I just don't like to see human suffering; even if the baby is dead, it is still human. It just bothers me.

 

[didyouknow]

Also, we eat rotten milk and call it cheese, we drink yeast excrement and call it beer.

Yes, but those don't involve human remains.

 

[Mars]

humour when it can be attained is worth the time to voice it, no matter the subject.

as for the value of ingesting byproducts of any procedure/activity it often pales with a fresh specimen of the plant variety.

I do find it disturbing, none the less it is something that happens in this world, just like genocide.

 

[wadlez]

I dont see anything wrong with this at all. I wish there was a source I could get some in australia

 

[Oblivious]

Why buy when you can make them yourself!

 

[Mars]

lol, that's bad.

 

[Thaklaar]

Three pages? Really? Christ, it's like reading e-mail from my mother.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

I dont see anything wrong with this at all. I wish there was a source I could get some in australia

You can eat me

That was a joke.

 

[wadlez]

If you were a foetus i'd be tempted. I'd deep fry you , dip you in barbeque sauce then chow down.