Canine Conquest, or lack thereof

[burtstanton]

Re: Bird

You should start a newsletter.

 

[Lobstrich]

Re: Bird

Sometimes we even watch horseporn together on Google+.

It's a party.

Sometimes you kick people because they cause "drama" -- You know when they have actual conversations about things of substance like me and Kevins debate on "insults" it's a very interesting topic if you ask me.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Re: Bird

Sometimes you kick people because they cause "drama" -- You know when they have actual conversations about things of substance like me and Kevins debate on "insults" it's a very interesting topic if you ask me.

Sometimes that happens, too.

 

[Lobstrich]

Re: Bird

Sometimes that happens, too.

Oh well..

 

[Words]

Re: Bird

It creates creativity. When you my opinion/view/understanding of something/attitude/whatever (thesis) gets challenged by your opinion/etc. (antithesis) Or vice versa. We are both forced to thinking in ways we've not thought before and ideally that should give you a "synthesis" i higher mean of sorts. It sounds a little cheesy, but if you're open minded debating can really give you that outcome... You learn.

And this is why I love so much to debate (or argue as many people see it) with everyone. Most I know or meet take it as an insult, that I'm going against what they say, as if I think I know better than them. But actually it's more of a compliment. I'm saying that "I think I can learn from you" Because I'm trying to get a "synthesis" with that person.

So to summarize, it forces you to think?

Even when challenged reasonably by others, several people will still hold-on to their traditional ideas, and most people are quite conservative. It does not necessarily promote creativity. It also goes back to misinterpretation. If you don't understand each other, you won't really get anything from each other. That is why I believe it is best to learn cooperatively and to learn because you like learning for learning, not because of social pressure or competition. It shouldn't also be difficult to be open-minded and view every opposing worldview not as a challenge, but as an idea that requires proof and evidence. I understand that different people will have different motivations though.

My own opinions on the necessity of conflict lies in "macroscience"(economics, cultural studies, bio-evolutionary etc). Competition boosts economic growth, bio-evolution is a result of conflict, and elections allow shifts of political ideas. Econ-growth is essential because of a limited supply of goods and services, bio-e necessary for genetic survival, and political shift because power is limited. I think it's also a natural human trait to favor competitive environment, for some.

 

[Bird]

Re: Bird

Can we please change the title of this thread?

 

[Lostwitheal]

Re: Bird

How about "Avian", or "Winged, feathered creature"?

 

[Bird]

Re: Bird

How about "Avian", or "Winged, feathered creature"?

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I have no nice suggestions.

 

[pjoa09]

Re: Bird

-edit-

I have no nice suggestions.

starface?

 

[Mello]

Re: Bird

Sometimes we even watch horseporn together on Google+.

It's a party.

Too bad you missed it.

 

[hitode-kun]

Re: Bird

Too bad you missed it.

Yea, it was truly spectacular.

[ Was I even there? ]

 

[Melllvar]

Re: Bird

Yea, it was truly spectacular.

[ Was I even there? ]

I don't know about the horses, but I do remember your specifically saying, "I wanted to see her pass out while trying to kill herself," after watching that Japanese girl.

 

[kantor1003]

Re: Bird

We never got to see horseporn together.. anyways, google+ hangouts hrmph! yes, join in on the fun everyone, if you are tired of staring at the wall all day, why not change it up and stare at someone else's wall for a few hours?
With that said, there has been a few.. or..hmm.. at least one gem that I can think of

 

[Kuu]

Re: Bird

Ok, 4 things:

1) So what *is* wrong with fucking dogs?
2) What about cats?
3) For the love of google, stop multiple posting and edit your posts Lobstrich! This is probably why all the dogs turn you down.
4) I should get my G+ going...

 

[GYX_Kid]

Instead of fucking a dog's ass, why not shit out a god's dick

I mean, in terms of supremacy gloriously raining from the bottom of your throne, instead of having to run around buttraping the innocent

 

[Oedipus]

Re: Bird

We never got to see horseporn together...

We did! We had to do it without you, I'm afraid. We should celebrate horseporn night monthly so you and Derek can see it.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Re: Bird

We did! We had to do it without you, I'm afraid. We should celebrate horseporn night monthly so you and Derek can see it.

I'm still a little upset that you guys watched it almost immediately after I had to leave.

 

[Wizardry]

This was an amusing thread. LOL

 

[Cavallier]

2) What about cats?

You are missing the point. He's tired of pussy but can't seem to get over bitches.

 

[Bird]

I approve of the thread title.


And cava's last post.

 

[Cavallier]

^Agreed. I enjoy Kuu's random fits of house-cleaning.

 

[kantor1003]

We did! We had to do it without you, I'm afraid. We should celebrate horseporn night monthly so you and Derek can see it.

I feel.... betrayed
But ok, I like the idea of a monthly horseporn night. I hope there is a lot to choose from.

 

[Oedipus]

I hope there is a lot to choose from.

We watched other shock videos too, the internet is our oyster!
And if we run out of things to watch we could always get Melllvar drunk and make him do stuff.

 

[^_\\]

Re: Bird

Can we please change the title of this thread?

it's lobstrich's thread. Who is this "we"?


About conflict: conflict isn't debate. Your (lobstrich) post explaining why you like conflict seemed to explain why you liked discussion and debate. Did you just mean a conflict of opinions type thing? Or do you think conflict is good in a wider sense?

Also yeah that whole "this isn't a democracy" thing was bullshit. You were asking for an ethical justification, not demanding a vote.

 

[Cavallier]

Re: Bird

it's lobstrich's thread. Who is this "we"?

I beg to differ. It may be Lob's thread but it was named after Bird. If I had a thread involving fucking dogs and some guy blowing it way out of proportion I'd want to change the name of the thread as well. By naming it after Bird it automatically becomes her issue as well. Thus the "we".

Ugh, I just know this is going to turn into a tempest in a teacup as well.

 

[Lobstrich]

Re: Bird

If I had a thread involving fucking dogs and some guy blowing it way out of proportion

I did not blow anything out of proportion. If you notice all I said, that bird said, was; that I wanted to fuck her dog. So I don't see how it's blown out of proportion.

 

[Lobstrich]

Re: Bird

About conflict: conflict isn't debate. Your (lobstrich) post explaining why you like conflict seemed to explain why you liked discussion and debate. Did you just mean a conflict of opinions type thing? Or do you think conflict is good in a wider sense?

Both. Conflict of opinions is always good.
But I also meant in a wider sense. We gain nothing from living in harmony. If you live in harmony you'll do the same thing every single day.
Nobody lives in harmony.

Also, when I say "conflict" I don't mean war and killing. I just mean that there's no harmony or agreement. (Though both things.. At least the latter one. Can be useful sometimes.)

Also yeah that whole "this isn't a democracy" thing was bullshit. You were asking for an ethical justification, not demanding a vote.

Exactly.

 

[Mello]

Re: Bird

Both. Conflict of opinions is always good.
But I also meant in a wider sense. We gain nothing from living in harmony. If you live in harmony you'll do the same thing every single day.
Nobody lives in harmony.

Also, when I say "conflict" I don't mean war and killing. I just mean that there's no harmony or agreement. (Though both things.. At least the latter one. Can be useful sometimes.)



Exactly.

You do gain something for being harmonious. If you agree with each other then there is no reason to argue.

You can still be creative without arguing by sharing ideas with another person.

What thing would you be doing everyday if you lived in harmony?

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Sturm und drang. Romantic movement for the win[fuck the world]. Five points to anyone who gets what I'm trying to say.

 

[Lobstrich]

Re: Bird

You do gain something for being harmonious. If you agree with each other then there is no reason to argue.

Yes, you gain harmony from harmony, you don't get any further knowledge.

Also, I never said "argue" I very specifically use "debate" because what I see a debate as, is a collaboration of opinions, views and knowledge that creates 'better' opinions, views and knowledge. ('better' because what is better? What I mean is that I might take in what you say, and maybe you will as well. Arguing is when people stop listening, when people get annoyed and it's nothing but yelling.

This process is impossible if you live in harmony because you will never ever be in disagreement, nothing bad will ever happen and nothing will ever stand in your way. Because you live in harmony (Like I mentioned before. Nobody lives in harmony anyway) But if you live in conflict you're forced to thinking new. Why? Because you want harmony. It's quite paradoxical actually.
This is nothing but my theory of course. It's not a theory that nobody lives in harmony though. That's a fact. Even the Buddhist monks don't live in harmony. The water the bathe in might be a little too cold (disharmony) he and another monk might budge into each other in the doorway (disharmony) etc. etc.

You can still be creative without arguing by sharing ideas with another person.

Sure you can share your ideas and not necessarily have to debate about it.
But I don't think you can be creative while upholding harmony. The entire basis of creativity is disharmony, it's something new. It's something that breaks the lines that once were.

What thing would you be doing everyday if you lived in harmony?

The exact same thing, every day. Because that's what harmony is. The same thing, without any 'interruptions' at all.

 

[Mello]

Re: Bird

Yes, you gain harmony from harmony, you don't get any further knowledge.

Also, I never said "argue" I very specifically use "debate" because what I see a debate as, is a collaboration of opinions, views and knowledge that creates 'better' opinions, views and knowledge. ('better' because what is better? What I mean is that I might take in what you say, and maybe you will as well. Arguing is when people stop listening, when people get annoyed and it's nothing but yelling.

This process is impossible if you live in harmony because you will never ever be in disagreement, nothing bad will ever happen and nothing will ever stand in your way. Because you live in harmony (Like I mentioned before. Nobody lives in harmony anyway) But if you live in conflict you're forced to thinking new. Why? Because you want harmony. It's quite paradoxical actually.
This is nothing but my theory of course. It's not a theory that nobody lives in harmony though. That's a fact. Even the Buddhist monks don't live in harmony. The water the bathe in might be a little too cold (disharmony) he and another monk might budge into each other in the doorway (disharmony) etc. etc.


Sure you can share your ideas and not necessarily have to debate about it.
But I don't think you can be creative while upholding harmony. The entire basis of creativity is disharmony, it's something new. It's something that breaks the lines that once were.



The exact same thing, every day. Because that's what harmony is. The same thing, without any 'interruptions' at all.

I was half-joking when I said to live in harmony. It's better to be able to compromise. Earlier you did say you like to argue though.

 

[Lobstrich]

Re: Bird

I was half-joking when I said to live in harmony. It's better to be able to compromise. Earlier you did say you like to argue though.

Right, okay. But what about, what you said about creativity? (Annoying sentence, hehe)
Being able to be creative while there is harmony.

About arguing, that must have been in the context of people seeing what I do as arguing. I see what I do as debating. I think there's a difference
between the two, like I explained.
If I did in fact just say it as in "I argue a lot" that's a mistake and I wish there was not a time limit to editing posts, hehe.