Calling all ENTP.ORG Regulars

[Back2Basics]

Flow?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)

flow

 

[Mysty]

[IDROITE][/IDROITE]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)

flow

oh I see what you mean now.

well for me (and I can't speak for anyone else, unsure if it is an ENTP thing, but surely an E thing anyway) I get it from talking to the right person - one where I feel there is a real positive connection. Sometimes I can feel really bouyed up by a 5 minute conversation with a stranger if intersting ideas or concepts have bounced. Sometimes I can get it from a text exchange if I feel a connection, but not so often. But I can go to a party and there will be lots of people and talk innane stuff to lots of people all night and i will still feel flat.

failing real live people - there is some music that can jolt me into overdrive. Only problem is I frequently forget this, it is a new discovery for me that music can do this. And I will be feeling flat for days and then suddenly think - oh, what about listening to some music? It has to be on my ipod with earphones to have this affect though. A bit like a battery jumpstart LOL

 

[Double_V]

Shortly before the site was taken offline a user posted information about defamation law. They said that they were posting for someone else, unnamed. Defamation is when you write false information about someone, damaging their reputation. I don't think any of us need to worry about that but I care about you people and it would sadden me if any of you were hassled with something of that sort. So, please, just let it go. There's more important things in our lives.

I was not around to see that happen but will say this is exactly why I think that website should be back up. To speak for itself, as the written record it is.

While I don't know who the unamed person was I am sure of who was complaining about defamation law. The collective volume of their written words, under their real life name they chose to use, would certainly speak contrary to them being defamed (by anyone other than themselves). And I believe that that party wanted it taken down for two reasons 1) if they couldn't have it they wanted it destroyed for everyone else and 2) to destroy the record itself.

I don't mind telling you I'd left that site some months before because of some things you experienced yourself upon your return (it was a daily nuisance) and because I did not want my IP address possibly accessed.

 

[Your Ex]

I was not around to see that happen but will say this is exactly why I think that website should be back up. To speak for itself, as the written record it is.

While I don't know who the unamed person was I am sure of who was complaining about defamation law. The collective volume of their written words, under their real life name they chose to use, would certainly speak contrary to them being defamed (by anyone other than themselves). And I believe that a party wanted it taken down for two reasons 1) if they couldn't have it they wanted it destroyed for everyone else as well and 2) to destroy the record itself.


I don't mind telling you I'd left that site some months before because of some things you experienced yourself upon your return (it was daily nuisance) and because I did not want my IP address possibly accessed.

The record is still there for anyone to see. Go to the Wayback Machine at http://archive.org/ and enter www.entp.org in the search blank. You will see lots of dates when a "picture" of the site was taken, and you can go to forums and threads just as you did when the site was active. There are lots of snapshots from October of 2012, as well as one from late November and one from mid-December. Happy reading. As a researcher, I can tell you that it's really difficult for anything to disappear from the internet, even if you want it to.

 

[kali]

Oh lord, I'm just lost here

I want the old site back..tho I appreciate the welcome from the INTP's.

Missing our hood.

I've asked Red to talk to Aspect about reopening. I offered to help contribute financially. Maybe that will help? IDK>

 

[jpc]

What about Anna´s offer?

 

[Mysty]

What about Anna´s offer?

Might be a good idea. There are not really many of us really.

 

[Quenchless]

Oh lord, I'm just lost here

I want the old site back..tho I appreciate the welcome from the INTP's.

Missing our hood.

I've asked Red to talk to Aspect about reopening. I offered to help contribute financially. Maybe that will help? IDK>

I found the forum software used on ENTP.org I have access to hosting / server I dont want to pay for the usage of the forum software and all the associated costs however am happy to contribute.... I could possibly get my IT buddy to write a screen scraping program from the archived version of the org.... could be an option, but I'm not 100# commited to it, you,ll have to talk me into it..I have a lot of side projects already that are half finished...... i dont have to explain you all know how it is.

 

[just george]

eeeeyyyyyyyyyyy found the entp refugees everyone crammed into one thread reminds me of this clip for some reason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndC8E1GCBlw

 

[Double_V]

eeeeyyyyyyyyyyy found the entp refugees everyone crammed into one thread reminds me of this clip for some reason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndC8E1GCBlw

Whew! I was worried. I didn't write down the greek yogurt recipe!

Hi George, glad to see you.

 

[Double_V]

The record is still there for anyone to see. Go to the Wayback Machine at http://archive.org/ and enter www.entp.org in the search blank. You will see lots of dates when a "picture" of the site was taken, and you can go to forums and threads just as you did when the site was active. There are lots of snapshots from October of 2012, as well as one from late November and one from mid-December. Happy reading.

Good to know, thanks. Still it's spotty, sort of hit or miss?

As a researcher, I can tell you that it's really difficult for anything to disappear from the internet, even if you want it to.

What do you research? My job included a high amount of research of records. I always think it's funny when someone tries to say a person who locates/quoted records or data was not an ENTP. Happened a fair amount at the org. In my case it was just a skill set developed out of need, a tool.

 

[just george]

eyyyyyyy double_v, what's happening

this intp place is quite good. we swapped a wasabi for a double_v.

SCORE

 

[Double_V]

Ah, shucks George. I was missing your invention & ideas (and your 2000 girls).

And don't say that name. I'm afraid it's like Beetlejuice (and a whole lot less charming). If you say it three times it might appear.

 

[Your Ex]

What do you research? My job included a high amount of research of records. I always think it's funny when someone tries to say a person who locates/quoted records or data was not an ENTP. Happened a fair amount at the org. In my case it was just a skill set developed out of need, a tool.

I'm a scientist by training, and a historian by avocation. I've done research all my life, it seems. And yes, ENTPs can do research. People always ask me to find information for them, and when they're suprised at the results, I just say, "I'm a professional researcher. Don't try this at home." In another life I'd have been a skip tracer.

 

[just george]

Ah, shucks George. I was missing your invention & ideas (and your 2000 girls).

And don't say that name. I'm afraid it's like Beetlejuice (and a whole lot less charming). If you say it three times it might appear.

2000 girls? No way. Yeesh, like I'm some cheap 4 figure floozy or something.

I see that guy was around when you were there too. My God. Total poster child for population reduction being a good idea

 

[Double_V]

2000 girls? No way. Yeesh, like I'm some cheap 4 figure floozy or something.

I was teasing (I saw some of the others were giving you crap about it).

I see that guy was around when you were there too. My God. Total poster child for population reduction being a good idea

Yeah, you can't have members like that and expect non trolls to want to hang around on a site.

 

[Mysty]

So if we got rehoused somewhere are you suggesting we Have an approval system to keep unwanted elements out?? How can you stop anyone becoming a member? Without stopping all sorts of interesting people from joining?

 

[Buck Shane]

Three strikes.
Warn 'em,
Warn 'em,
Boot 'em

 

[just george]

reputation systems seem to work well also. green for good, red for admin review. it's a good way to flag posts that of themselves are terribly offensive for no good reason.

oh forgot to say hi to everyone else who said hi to me - how rude

 

[Double_V]

So if we got rehoused somewhere are you suggesting we Have an approval system to keep unwanted elements out?? How can you stop anyone becoming a member? Without stopping all sorts of interesting people from joining?

No, I'm not suggesting a preapproval process (altho I personally would not want Doug in a new group). I am suggesting it's generally obvious quick as to who trolls are. Example: Wasabi walked straight in the door with troll posts, and numerous members googled him and reported all the websites he'd been banned at already, and for good reason.

I'm suggesting we have a modding system that stops little problems from becoming big problems. Once there are members with high volumes of empty or trollish posts good posters leave the site.

Other sites who finally have to ban a member ban their IP address to prevent them coming back under a new ID. They also generally post who was banned and why.

By the end of the org there was almost no ENTP's there. I will tell you it was not always that way. There had been architects, lawyers, musicians, writers, quite a few in IT, inventors, and so on. Lots of students.

Nearly every forum for anything I have ever been on has some moderation. Often they have a section for identifying who was banned and why, this forum being no exception. I've not read into it very far here yet but the one I did sort of said 'nuisance' 'volumes of empty posts'. Well, that makes sense to me.

And you know who would have been 'off the island' (long before you joined the group) for that? Doug. Awhile ago when he was mad at a member (to get even) he created a second account and made harrassing posts of a dolt after every post the guy made. Seventeen hundred times.

I did notice Doug, who had banned on numerous sites and whose behavior apparently lead to the demise of the org, showed up here in this thread using his same tactics. What happened? The mods removed his posts. They stopped the problem while it was little.

A little bud nippin' allows good growth to happen.

 

[Double_V]

And those that disagree with me should consider opening up your own website : "The Norton Downey Jr. ENTP Trolls and Imposters Internet Web Rehab Group".

It should have a sub chapter called "The INF's Oh If We Could Land an ENTP!" along with the logo "We love 'em!".

 

[Double_V]

But whatever it is.... IT NEEDS EMOTICONS!

 

[Your Ex]

reputation systems seem to work well also. green for good, red for admin review. it's a good way to flag posts that of themselves are terribly offensive for no good reason.

oh forgot to say hi to everyone else who said hi to me - how rude

Oh, hi George. Didn't recognize you from your posts. You seem.... different somehow, but in a good way. Welcome.

 

[Kuu]

Three strikes.
Warn 'em,
Warn 'em,
Boot 'em

Fools.

One just ought to pounce them when they're least expecting it. Predators don't announce themselves to their prey.


Like all aspiring forum tyrants know, there's nothing quite like a late-night blitzkrieg...

Spoiler

FROM SPACE!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNDaOFQ6g2I&feature=player_detailpage#t=23s

Ain't that right, Oberstforumführer @Fukyo?

 

[Buck Shane]

Cats play with mice.

 

[Fukyo]

Ain't that right, Oberstforumführer @Fukyo?

 

[Buck Shane]

Ya know, Fukyo, we're extraverts. If you weren't watching us, we'd do something to get you to.

 

[Double_V]

The Crime & Punishment section on this site. Being a nuisance will bring on a ban, along with some tongue in cheek harrassment by the locals.

 

[Mysty]

Oh, hi George. Didn't recognize you from your posts. You seem.... different somehow, but in a good way. Welcome.

Even when he said nothing that horse was mocking and slathering for him

 

[Mysty]

It should have a sub chapter called "The INF's Oh If We Could Land an ENTP!" along with the logo "We love 'em!".

:smiley_emoticons_mr

 

[Your Ex]

Ya know, Fukyo, we're extraverts. If you weren't watching us, we'd do something to get you to.

Never seen a microphone or camera we didn't like.

 

[Kuu]

Never seen a microphone or camera we didn't like.

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl4s1D4MGH8

 

[Buck Shane]

Kuu, you do have a way with words.

 

[Jennywocky]

Fascinating. I had expected more splatter patterns on the outside of the growth, so it would better resemble art by Jackson Polyp.

 

[Buck Shane]

Fascinating. I had expected more splatter patterns on the outside of the growth, so it would better resemble art by Jackson Polyp.

 

[Buck Shane]

Anybody have contact info for Munchies or Scummy?

 

[Double_V]

Several people from the org keep in contact with her. Admittedly I am a little worried about him. I kinda miss him.

 

[Mysty]

Anybody have contact info for Munchies or Scummy?

oh I would really like to get in contact with Scummy

 

[Buck Shane]

oh I would really like to get in contact with Scummy

I think Kali can.

 

[kali]

Anybody have contact info for Munchies or Scummy?

I heard from Scum today on fb. She's sick

Flu bug I think.

 

[Buck Shane]

Well? ... (tapping toe!)

 

[Double_V]

It got cold. I am unhappy.

Makes me wish to dissappear in my head, and ignore it all.

Blech.

 

[Back2Basics]

[IDROITE][/IDROITE]

oh I see what you mean now.

well for me (and I can't speak for anyone else, unsure if it is an ENTP thing, but surely an E thing anyway) I get it from talking to the right person - one where I feel there is a real positive connection. Sometimes I can feel really bouyed up by a 5 minute conversation with a stranger if intersting ideas or concepts have bounced. Sometimes I can get it from a text exchange if I feel a connection, but not so often. But I can go to a party and there will be lots of people and talk innane stuff to lots of people all night and i will still feel flat.

failing real live people - there is some music that can jolt me into overdrive. Only problem is I frequently forget this, it is a new discovery for me that music can do this. And I will be feeling flat for days and then suddenly think - oh, what about listening to some music? It has to be on my ipod with earphones to have this affect though. A bit like a battery jumpstart LOL

lol i am the same exact way with music, what music do you listen to to give you that jolt?

 

[Back2Basics]

i am trying to decide what book to read...
maybe Fooled by Randomness: The Hidden Role of Chance in Life and in the Markets
The Economics and Ethics of Private Property: Studies in Political Economy and Philosophy, 2nd Edition
Siddhartha
or any other recommendations you may have...
i like thought provoking books (i got really into economics due to books like that)

 

[Mysty]

i am trying to decide what book to read...
maybe Fooled by Randomness: The Hidden Role of Chance in Life and in the Markets
The Economics and Ethics of Private Property: Studies in Political Economy and Philosophy, 2nd Edition
Siddhartha
or any other recommendations you may have...
i like thought provoking books (i got really into economics due to books like that)

The one about randomness sounds potentially interesting.
Me personally finds economics to generally be too dry for my liking. Science books are my interest!

 

[Back2Basics]

The one about randomness sounds potentially interesting.
Me personally finds economics to generally be too dry for my liking. Science books are my interest!

which science books?

 

[Mysty]

lol i am the same exact way with music, what music do you listen to to give you that jolt?

Funnily enough we had a thread on this subject backat the org, and 3 of my current faves came from this thread!

Fast beat electronica style is not bad to invigorate motivation.
Calmer more contemplative stuff can be good for concentration. Although oddly I found that very repetitive music is good for drowning out other people and intruding thought to create single minded focus when a boring report writing task is required.

 

[Your Ex]

which science books?

Genome by Matt Ridley is a good, accessible science book.

 

[drmiller100]

Sigh.

Mention my name, I will remind you.

This is really simple. Google is pretty powerful. I have a few basic searches set up. I use my real name, I use the same userid I use on every site across the entire net, and I search periodically on a few specific things. Many of us this kind of thing. It is how you keep track of the world around you.

I'd prefer if you quit talking about me, but if you do talk about me, at least use a code word or something so it takes me longer than 3 seconds for me to find out about it.

Please.

And for the record, I did not set up a different account to bug your buddy on that old site. I changed my user name for a while, and then I changed it back.

I wish you all the best. I hope you find a wonderful home like I and several others from the old site have.

 

[SpiralHacker]

I have some good news for my fellow entp.org members.

Aspectmin and I have finished transferring the site, software and data over to me. I have updated the placeholder on the site and entp.org will return in the near future.

I was hoping to have the site back online by the end of this weekend, but a few things have come up that require me to delay the re-launch. An issue arose that affects my family relationships and this morning that issue escalated. Simultaneously there are things regarding my career that require me to stay focused on them, giving my attention and time. It would irresponsible of me to not prioritize them.

My personal life takes precedence and I hope that you can be understanding of that. I will have it back up as soon as I am able. We have many years ahead of us and the time-critical issues that I am addressing will hopefully not take too long, but at least a week is expected.

When I turn the forum back on, I want to be able to give it the effort that it requires, at least for the first month, to establish and get agreement from the community on the management style that I think will allow it to flourish, provide the openness that we have come to expect while helping to insure that the forum is a place where people can feel comfortable, express themselves freely, and is attractive to other intelligent minds.

Cheers, to my fellow community members, to the forum, the natural habitat of Northern Bushapes, horses with funny expressions, armed glasses of beer, budding entrepreneurs, family men and players, type enthusiasts and those who don't care for it, sharp women like Kali and kind women like Mysty, as well as the many others who made the place something we all missed when it was almost gone. Cheers to you, because although people like Aspectmin and I get pleasure out of providing the space for you, it is you guys, the community, and volunteers like DST, RedCheerio and the moderators that make it what it is.

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Some additional information:

I first worked with aspectmin many years ago, looking through options for the site, and helping select and acquire the software. It was clear to me that he really cared about the community and that he wanted to provide the best he could. I've respected him ever since.

In 2011, he got busy with his own life and he asked me and at least one other person to take over the site, but we were unable to do so at that time. Despite having other things to do, he kept the forum running, for the rest of us. It was unfortunate that recent events required more attention and effort than he was able to provide. He desires to move onto other things, and we wish him well.

Shortly before taking the site down, he had asked me again to take over. I was considering it when I saw that he had taken it down. I reached out to him, primarily as a friend, to give him my updated number and see what we could do to keep the place running. I think I've been hesitant for this role, I had never even asked to be an Administrator, but it seemed to both of us that I should take over if I'm willing to do it. With deliberation, I agreed.

I feel honored that he would pass it on to me. and It was not purchased, it was handed off. I feel honored that he trusts me to continue the community that he started and invested into.

I'm not sure how often he will come by the site, he was absent for the past few years, as was I, but we've been talking offline and I am hoping that the best of our relationship is still to come. Aspectmin will be forever honored at entp.org.