Boredom

[Maniceureka]

I'm extremely bored, I got this draining emptiness inside of me and i feel dissatisfaction pretty much all the time. I feel lonely and I lack motivation to do anything.
My future seem very uninteresting and I don't really have any lust for life.
When I have lots of free time on my hands I tend to sleep a lot, and from time to time I just want to fall asleep and never ever wake up again because life seems so exhausting.

 

[Fool]

Depressed?

 

[Maniceureka]

Depressed?

Melancholic as hell, so well... yeah...

 

[ashitaria]

Don't worry, you are not the only person experiencing such a thing.

Have you ever tried going outside on a sunny day? It works wonders. When the sky is blue and the sun is shining, it helps a lot. Try listening to happy and relaxing music, and do some exercise.

Who knows?

 

[BigApplePi]

Try jumping jacks. If you don't do jumping jacks, do rope jumping. If you don't do rope jumping, do rope sitting. Get a rope first.

Can you find a piece of music I would like? Try something. I'll tell you if I like it or not. After you've done that, I'll be back with more advice.

 

[citrusbreath95]

Get out and travel, take a break from daily life, do something to break daily routine (I get really depressed over daily routine) it can be something really simple, but it does help. Make something new, (a video, write a book, song, etc.) force yourself to go outside and take a walk

 

[Hawkeye]

Someone once said

If you're bored it's because you're boring!

 

[Maniceureka]

Someone once said

I might just be a very boring person, but normal activities just doesn't seem appealing to me.

Don't worry, you are not the only person experiencing such a thing.

Have you ever tried going outside on a sunny day? It works wonders. When the sky is blue and the sun is shining, it helps a lot. Try listening to happy and relaxing music, and do some exercise.

Who knows?

Well... I have, its just that its pretty damn cold and gray here in Sweden right now and its been like that for quite a while. And I can't listen to happy music when I'm down, when I feel melancholic I want to listen to melancholic music.

However there is a place where I usually go in the summers, it's a little bridge at a swamp where lots of mallards gather. It's my favourite place I believe.

 

[Hawkeye]

The best way to stop being bored is to do something you don't normally do. For example when walking home take a left instead of a right (unless taking a left leads to a horrible death of which you are certain will occur ).

The way you've worded ""normal activities just don't seem appealing to me." implies that you have come to this conclusion before actually trying them. That's like a kid saying he doesn't like tomoatoes before he's even tasted them.

I could be wrong with this assumption though.

 

[Maniceureka]

The best way to stop being bored is to do something you don't normally do. For example when walking home take a left instead of a right (unless taking a left leads to a horrible death of which you are certain will occur ).

The way you've worded ""normal activities just don't seem appealing to me." implies that you have come to this conclusion before actually trying them. That's like a kid saying he doesn't like tomoatoes before he's even tasted them.

I could be wrong with this assumption though.

I do such things as taking different routes home, and i've taken these different routes so many times that they're boring again.

When i said that "normal activities just don't seem appealing to me." i meant that, for example; going the the cinema (which i have) is boring and i rather watch movies at home.

Also, tomatoes are f***ing disgusting, worst vegetable ever...

 

[Hawkeye]

I do such things as taking different routes home, and i've taken these different routes so many times that they're boring again.

When i said that "normal activities just don't seem appealing to me." i meant that, for example; going the the cinema (which i have) is boring and i rather watch movies at home.

Also, tomatoes are f***ing disgusting, worst vegetable ever...

ah I see, I was like that last year. I stopped doing everything I enjoyed and became pretty much an apathetic vegetable. Took me a while to snap out of it. I snapped out of it by thinking of a great time of enjoyment I had as a child and tried to continue it. For example, I enjoyed this piece of music from a film I watched when I was about 5. I went out, bought a classical guitar and started to learn it. I'm about half way through the song now and I feel great!

Also, there is atleast one piece of interesting knowledge you can walk away with from this topic.

Tomatoes are actually fruits

 

[Trebuchet]

I recommend making some kind of new commitment. Offer to volunteer once a week somewhere (local library, tutoring center, nature center, food bank, senior center, whatever). If you are in the US, you can go to http://www.allforgood.org/ and type in whatever you want to do, like "literacy" at the top, and enter your location.

I find that having such a commitment, while occasionally annoying, is much better than boredom. I'm quite sure that if you actually volunteered a few hours a week for a month, you wouldn't be bored anymore.

 

[ashitaria]

Tomatoes are actually fruits

That's actually still a very debatable subject. In 197-something, the farmers and the government had a dispute over whether tomatoes were fruits or vegetables, or something like that.

 

[BigApplePi]

That's actually still a very debatable subject. In 197-something, the farmers and the government had a dispute over whether tomatoes were fruits or vegetables, or something like that.

Whatever they are they can be delicious or taste like cardboard. I don't care for the cardboard ones.

 

[Cognisant]

Being melancholic is something I enjoy, perhaps not in a "happy" way, I suppose it's like how one can enjoy bitter or spicy tastes, the sentiment being something like even feeling unhappy is feeling and by comparison to feeling nothing at all it's actually quite nice.

As for boredom, well I agree with what Hawkeye quoted about the bored being boring, but perhaps not with the same meaning as Hawkeye intended. The way I figure it if you're bored then you're not just lacking external stimulation, you're lacking the entertainment of an internal discourse/monologue, i.e. if you're bored when alone then obviously with no-one else to talk to but yourself it must be you who's being boring because evidently you're not interested in what you have to say (to yourself) or perhaps you're just not speaking... what a quiet/empty mind that would be.

Then again perhaps your boredom is just a sympathy of apathy, in which case there's not much I can do for you, it's simply really, sink or swim, motivate yourself, or don't.
Nobody's going to make you take charge of yourself, nobody can.

Edit: Before you mention it, my title "Dangerously Bored" represents the unpredictability of a self motivated mind with only its own whims to follow, not an apathetic one.

 

[BigApplePi]

B The way I figure it if you're bored then you're not just lacking external stimulation, you're lacking the entertainment of an internal discourse/monologue, i.e. if you're bored when alone then obviously with no-one else to talk to but yourself it must be you who's being boring because evidently you're not interested in what you have to say (to yourself) or perhaps you're just not speaking... what a quiet/empty mind that would be.

Then again perhaps your boredom is just a sympathy of apathy, in which case there's not much I can do for you, it's simply really, sink or swim, motivate yourself, or don't.
Nobody's going to make you take charge of yourself, nobody can.

Edit: Before you mention it, my title "Dangerously Bored" represents the unpredictability of a self motivated mind with only its own whims to follow, not an apathetic one.

A slightly contrary view: Boredom is actually a good thing -- if it is telling you you are doing something unproductive. Whatever you are doing (or not doing) you should be doing something else -- or doing what your doing in a different way.

Solution: either place yourself in a different environment with something to offer or introduce into your existing environment something new. This may not be an easy task if other people are the medium as there are many kinds of other people.

 

[Hawkeye]

That's actually still a very debatable subject. In 197-something, the farmers and the government had a dispute over whether tomatoes were fruits or vegetables, or something like that.

Hmm, They are now defined as 'Botanical fruits'. They are fruits that have vegetable like qualities. One of the arguments that a tomato is a fruit boils down to the fact that it is often cooked like a vegetable. Another is that tomatos aren't considered to be sweet which apparently all fruits are... This of course is silly as some vegetables are sweet such as the 'sweet potato' so I see that argument as being flawed.

 

[Maniceureka]

Hmm, They are now defined as 'Botanical fruits'. They are fruits that have vegetable like qualities. One of the arguments that a tomato is a fruit boils down to the fact that it is often cooked like a vegetable. Another is that tomatos aren't considered to be sweet which apparently all fruits are... This of course is silly as some vegetables are sweet such as the 'sweet potato' so I see that argument as being flawed.

I think we're a bit off topic now.
P.S. Bananas are actually berries.

 

[Hawkeye]

I think we're a bit off topic now.
P.S. Bananas are actually berries.

I was trying to distract you from your boredom...

 

[ashitaria]

Hmm, They are now defined as 'Botanical fruits'. They are fruits that have vegetable like qualities. One of the arguments that a tomato is a fruit boils down to the fact that it is often cooked like a vegetable. Another is that tomatos aren't considered to be sweet which apparently all fruits are... This of course is silly as some vegetables are sweet such as the 'sweet potato' so I see that argument as being flawed.

They are also sometimes referred to as ripe vegetable, but then I don't really wanna veer of topic. It still isn't resolved yet.

In any case, why not try daydreaming?

 

[Maniceureka]

They are also sometimes referred to as ripe vegetable, but then I don't really wanna veer of topic. It still isn't resolved yet.

In any case, why not try daydreaming?

I'm a natural daydreamer so i pretty much do that all the time, but i can't just constantly be daydreaming.

 

[Hawkeye]

I'm a natural daydreamer so i pretty much do that all the time, but i can't just constantly be daydreaming.

Start writing a story based on one of your day-dreams and try and continue it to the end. Write atleast 2,500 words otherwise it's not a story.

 

[BigApplePi]

I think we're a bit off topic now.
P.S. Bananas are actually berries.

Bananas are the most common different tasting fruit from any other fruit there is. That is, after trying a plum, an apple is not that far away.

 

[BigApplePi]

Question: I have a cat. Why isn't my cat boring?

 

[Hawkeye]

Bananas are the most common different tasting fruit from any other fruit there is. That is, after trying a plum, an apple is not that far away.

and what about the Avocado?


[edit]

and don't you mean "bored"?

 

[Maniceureka]

Start writing a story based on one of your day-dreams and try and continue it to the end. Write atleast 2,500 words otherwise it's not a story.

Though i never really liked writing stories (maybe becouse my teacher forced me to write about uninteresting subjects).

And i'm really not that good at expressing myself with words.

 

[BigApplePi]

and what about the Avocado?


[edit]

and don't you mean "bored"?

Boring into an avocado? I munch them. What about a grapefruit?

 

[BigApplePi]

Though i never really liked writing stories (maybe becouse my teacher forced me to write about uninteresting subjects).

And i'm really not that good at expressing myself with words.

Words? How are you at expressing yourself with your hands? Feet? Mouth? Music? Painting?

 

[Hawkeye]

Though i never really liked writing stories (maybe becouse my teacher forced me to write about uninteresting subjects).

And i'm really not that good at expressing myself with words.

It's alright saying you're bored but to be too apathetic to even try is pathetic...

So...

Stop being so negative and do as I say!!!

I want it posted on this forum first thing Monday morning.

Question: I have a cat. Why isn't my cat boring?

This is what I was reffering my

and don't you mean "bored"?

to.

Otherwise you are merely stating your own interests about your cat

 

[BigApplePi]

Mebbe a rephrase of that would come in handy.

 

[Maniceureka]

Then again perhaps your boredom is just a sympathy of apathy, in which case there's not much I can do for you, it's simply really, sink or swim, motivate yourself, or don't.
Nobody's going to make you take charge of yourself, nobody can.

Maybe i am just that, apathetic that is, how sad. Maybe i'll come over it, time will tell.

Words? How are you at expressing yourself with your hands? Feet? Mouth? Music? Painting?

I am a guitarist so music is my way of expressing myself, however i'm often to tired to play or just lack motivation. The thing is; i want to be motivated to play guitar, but most of the time i'm not.

 

[BigApplePi]

I am a guitarist so music is my way of expressing myself, however i'm often to tired to play or just lack motivation. The thing is; i want to be motivated to play guitar, but most of the time i'm not.

This is just a question for you Maniceureka as I don't play an instrument at all. I was way too shy to try out in grade school. Can you find a style of either guitar music or just plain style you like when you ARE in the mood and present it to us? Maybe something on youtube? Do you know how to do a search?

BTW as I kid I had a problem that resembled yours. I used to go around saying to my mom, "Mom what can I have to do?" and she came up with nothing I wanted. I was a kind of desert of availabilities. So I identify with you.

 

[Maniceureka]

This is just a question for you Maniceureka as I don't play an instrument at all. I was way too shy to try out in grade school. Can you find a style of either guitar music or just plain style you like when you ARE in the mood and present it to us? Maybe something on youtube? Do you know how to do a search?

BTW as I kid I had a problem that resembled yours. I used to go around saying to my mom, "Mom what can I have to do?" and she came up with nothing I wanted. I was a kind of desert of availabilities. So I identify with you.

I like a lot of different styles, but these are two songs that I like particularly

Spoiler

YouTube- José González 'Crosses'

Spoiler

YouTube- Pink Floyd - High Hopes - The Division Bell

It's nice how I can relate to people on this community.

 

[BigApplePi]

I like a lot of different styles, but these are two songs that I like particularly

Spoiler

YouTube- José González 'Crosses'

Good filming. What I observe is though there are a great many people present of all kinds -- in fact the number is the theme, none reach out and the dreamer doesn't reach out either.

Spoiler

YouTube- Pink Floyd - High Hopes - The Division Bell

It's nice how I can relate to people on this community.

The Pink Floyd has beautiful images. Again we have a person alone who is imagining these things. These are all possibilities for his life. The images are abstractions held together with the music. Is this something you enjoy or could build or be a part of? Could you be a part of Pink Floyd's art or is this a wish? To do so you need to get out there into the world. Meet someone whom you will meet a 2nd time who may take an interest in you or vice versa. Not an INTP though. An ExFx would help for a contact.

I see you said "I can relate to people on this community." How would you describe the relationships?

In the 1st spoiler the young man is alone. Hasn't found himself. In the 2nd he is closer. I was like that at that age. What do others think of these two spoilers?

 

[Maniceureka]

The Pink Floyd has beautiful images. Again we have a person alone who is imagining these things. These are all possibilities for his life. The images are abstractions held together with the music. Is this something you enjoy or could build or be a part of? Could you be a part of Pink Floyd's art or is this a wish? To do so you need to get out there into the world. Meet someone whom you will meet a 2nd time who may take an interest in you or vice versa. Not an INTP though. An ExFx would help for a contact.

When you ask me if I could be a part of Pink Floyd's art, do you mean if I'm able to recreate their music on my own?

Also when it comes to "getting out there", it's hard because I don't know where to go, really. And if I knew I would just be a stranger that wouldn't be able to take any initiative. Maybe I'm just spoiled.

 

[BigApplePi]

When you ask me if I could be a part of Pink Floyd's art, do you mean if I'm able to recreate their music on my own?

If you meant "create" I didn't mean that as not everyone can be Pink Floyd. I don't know what you mean by "recreate." Can you? I meant, say, the next time some artist had an idea (doesn't exclude you) that you could be a paid or apprentice part of the exercise. Those creations you gave me took time and effort. I'm talking vocation here.

Also when it comes to "getting out there", it's hard because I don't know where to go, really. And if I knew I would just be a stranger that wouldn't be able to take any initiative. Maybe I'm just spoiled.

Here is where we are getting personal. When one says something personal, they are taking a risk with the outside world, in this case a minor forum on the internet. Do you live with relatives? When you say "spoiled" do you mean indulged and given things for free? Spoiled is a trick word. People can accuse you of being ungrateful for what is given. But a person of your age (13-29?) needs more than just food, clothing and shelter. They need stimulation. I'm no expert on this age group. I do know my own experiences and those of a few others though.

I went through what you are doing, went to work, never quite found myself, stuck it out and retired. Now I'm have lots of fun doing all sorts of things within my limited capacity. I'm having a ball finding myself. Perhaps I'm doing TOO many things, but I'm anything but bored. Just telling you this to contract the differences.

 

[Maniceureka]

If you meant "create" I didn't mean that as not everyone can be Pink Floyd. I don't know what you mean by "recreate." Can you? I meant, say, the next time some artist had an idea (doesn't exclude you) that you could be a paid or apprentice part of the exercise. Those creations you gave me took time and effort. I'm talking vocation here.

I was trying to ask you if you meant if I was able to play their music. But do you mean that I should try to make music my job?

Here is where we are getting personal. When one says something personal, they are taking a risk with the outside world, in this case a minor forum on the internet. Do you live with relatives? When you say "spoiled" do you mean indulged and given things for free? Spoiled is a trick word. People can accuse you of being ungrateful for what is given. But a person of your age (13-29?) needs more than just food, clothing and shelter. They need stimulation. I'm no expert on this age group. I do know my own experiences and those of a few others though.

When I said spoiled, I meant that I don't wanna approach others, I want them to approach me.
So I'm spoiled because when I want to be social I rely on that others will come to me as I can't take any initiative myself.
Maybe I was misleading.

 

[Hawkeye]

So if I gave you a concept - would you write a song about it?

 

[Maniceureka]

So if I gave you a concept - would you write a song about it?

I'm a guitarist, not a songwriter. As said I'm really bad with words. I feel bad being so negative to your suggestions, but I just don't think it'll suit me. And It would be a waste anyway as I can't sing well.

 

[BigApplePi]

I was trying to ask you if you meant if I was able to play their music. But do you mean that I should try to make music my job?

You can answer that. Can you play their music?

Well no. I meant that was a possibility. That's up to you. I don't know your abilities. What ARE your job ambitions, if any? Do you have any objection to my asking these questions? I'm curious.

When I said spoiled, I meant that I don't wanna approach others, I want them to approach me.
So I'm spoiled because when I want to be social I rely on that others will come to me as I can't take any initiative myself.
Maybe I was misleading.

Don't worry about beng misleading. It's up to me to ask what you meant. I don't think that's "spoiled" unless you have some reason for thinking so. Are you ABLE to approach others? I ask that because for me I was always shy. I was afraid to. (Different now.) You are saying you are passive. Well I don't know you. Can you say more about WHY you are passive? You said you "can't." Does that mean you don't know how?

 

[JoeJoe]

One of the arguments that a tomato is a fruit boils down to the fact that it is often cooked like a vegetable.

"Boils" down. Haha.

Just last Wednesday when I woke up I thought: "Damn, my life is fucking boring."
I'm in 12th grade and my grades are a bit above average, however I do absolutely nothing for school. Possibly the reason I never do my homework is to make my life a bit more exiting.

At the moment I want to find my vision. I believe that to have a fulfilled life, one must have a dream which s/he pursues or lives. On Wednesday I thought about what someone else would say about my boredom. If someone said:"Go party." I'd say:"Granted, it brings some variability in my life, but in no way is that ever going to fulfill me, and I'd rather conserve my energies for other things." Now, I do go on parties if I'm invited but it's very far from being something I crave for.

Back to vision: Have you heard of Vision Quest? It's a Native American ritual in which adults find their life's vision and it is offered by several organizations. Call it coincidence or not, on Wednesday I met a guy who did a Vision Quest in Sweden.

I have the impression that most people who actually find their vision only do so in their late 40s to 50s. But I have absolutely no interest in waiting that long. Why should I waste 30 years of my life doing stuff that might be interesting, might be fun, but will leave a certain emptiness inside me. My time is now. I will find my vision and pursue it for the rest of my remaining potential 70 years.


Oh, why not organize a flash mob? I plan on doing that soon.

 

[Hawkeye]

play on words ftw

I'm a guitarist, not a songwriter. As said I'm really bad with words. I feel bad being so negative to your suggestions, but I just don't think it'll suit me. And It would be a waste anyway as I can't sing well.

This topic (along with your responses) is borderline troll material ^^

Perhaps you should become a troll.

 

[Maniceureka]

You can answer that. Can you play their music?

Well no. I meant that was a possibility. That's up to you. I don't know your abilities. What ARE your job ambitions, if any? Do you have any objection to my asking these questions? I'm curious.

Well, I am going to a music school, so I have ambitions on becoming a musician. The thing is that I'm afraid that I might fail because I feel that I don't practice enough.
Also, I don't have any objections to your questions, I'm just glad that you bother yourself with this thread.

Don't worry about beng misleading. It's up to me to ask what you meant. I don't think that's "spoiled" unless you have some reason for thinking so. Are you ABLE to approach others? I ask that because for me I was always shy. I was afraid to. (Different now.) You are saying you are passive. Well I don't know you. Can you say more about WHY you are passive? You said you "can't." Does that mean you don't know how?

I'm just terrible at taking initiative around strangers, and even if I did I wouldn't know what to say, I'm not a good conversation starter.

 

[BigApplePi]

Well, I am going to a music school, so I have ambitions on becoming a musician. The thing is that I'm afraid that I might fail because I feel that I don't practice enough.
Also, I don't have any objections to your questions, I'm just glad that you bother yourself with this thread.

I knew a musician a couple years ago who was in charge of a band. He was telling us about his difficulties in getting people. How could he keep his band going? He had a couple good people but his bass player didn't practice. He had to fire him. So it looks like if you want to keep a job you have to learn your trade.

The thing is right now you appear isolated. Motivation comes from the outside to start. You can bring it inside later. That is why you are bored. The solution is to get involved. Involvement doesn't happen all at once. A seed has to be planted.

Am I getting across? Does this seem right to you -- at least in theory?

I'm just terrible at taking initiative around strangers, and even if I did I wouldn't know what to say, I'm not a good conversation starter.

Now I'm going to guess at this. You tell me if I'm right because I could be wrong. The reason why you are terrible around strangers is you have nothing to say so far that grabs people. It's like a small unsprouted seed. The solution is you have to plant the seed, sprout it, water it, cultivate it. This happens a little at a time.

You don't need to be a conversation starter now. Put yourself where OTHERS do that. Let them talk to you. There are formulas for this. Like getting the other person to talk about themselves. Do you have a library nearby? Dale Carnegie wrote a book, "How to Win Friends and Influence People." --- That kind of thing. Tell me if this makes sense.

 

[kantor1003]

To the guitarist:

-Learn some new tunes
-study theory
-apply theory to the guitar
-transcribe some solos and analyze the note choice
-try to implement some new phrasing ideas, or some new note choices
-learn some new voicings
-experiment with melodic minor harmony
-shred while staring at the wall
-practice site reading
-try to play what you sing

I am in the same boat as you. I know that I have tons of things I should do, but I am a lazy idiot. I know though, that after a period with productive practice sessions, I feel REALLY good. Best feeling ever. Problem is, I haven't had those in a while.. I practice, sure, and quite a lot... but the sessions aren't productive enough.

 

[BigApplePi]

To the guitarist:

-Learn some new tunes
-study theory
-apply theory to the guitar
-transcribe some solos and analyze the note choice
-try to implement some new phrasing ideas, or some new note choices
-learn some new voicings
-experiment with melodic minor harmony
-shred while staring at the wall
-practice site reading
-try to play what you sing

I am in the same boat as you. I know that I have tons of things I should do, but I am a lazy idiot. I know though, that after a period with productive practice sessions, I feel REALLY good. Best feeling ever. Problem is, I haven't had those in a while.. I practice, sure, and quite a lot... but the sessions aren't productive enough.

Thank you kantor1003.

 

[Maniceureka]

Now I'm going to guess at this. You tell me if I'm right because I could be wrong. The reason why you are terrible around strangers is you have nothing to say so far that grabs people. It's like a small unsprouted seed. The solution is you have to plant the seed, sprout it, water it, cultivate it. This happens a little at a time.

You don't need to be a conversation starter now. Put yourself where OTHERS do that. Let them talk to you. There are formulas for this. Like getting the other person to talk about themselves. Do you have a library nearby? Dale Carnegie wrote a book, "How to Win Friends and Influence People." --- That kind of thing. Tell me if this makes sense.

Well, I could just ask people random questions and stuff, but that just seems like stupid small talk to me. I want an interesting and deeper conversation when I talk to people. And of course it has to be a topic that I'm interested in.
Talking about the weather does not interest me.
And as said, I'm not good at starting such conversations.

To the guitarist:

-Learn some new tunes
-study theory
-apply theory to the guitar
-transcribe some solos and analyze the note choice
-try to implement some new phrasing ideas, or some new note choices
-learn some new voicings
-experiment with melodic minor harmony
-shred while staring at the wall
-practice site reading
-try to play what you sing

I am in the same boat as you. I know that I have tons of things I should do, but I am a lazy idiot. I know though, that after a period with productive practice sessions, I feel REALLY good. Best feeling ever. Problem is, I haven't had those in a while.. I practice, sure, and quite a lot... but the sessions aren't productive enough.

Yeah, I am a lazy idiot too for sure. I wanna get good at playing guitar but I don't have the motivation needed to practice (well I do practice a little, but not nearly as much as I want to). Though I used to practice a lot when I had an audition at the school where I study now.
Well, I'm going to buy a nice archtop soon, maybe that'll motivate me for awhile.

 

[kantor1003]

Well, I'm going to buy a nice archtop soon, maybe that'll motivate me for awhile.

What kinda archtop?
Have you checked out metheny's signature guitar? look at this beauty!

http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/50238_l.jpg

I was a nano-inch away from ordering it. I don't play enough jazz, or in enough groups where I could use this thing to justify this purchase unfortunately.. I might get this baby one day though..

 

[Maniceureka]

What kinda archtop?
Have you checked out metheny's signature guitar? look at this beauty!

http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/50238_l.jpg

I was a nano-inch away from ordering it. I don't play enough jazz, or in enough groups where I could use this thing to justify this purchase unfortunately.. I might get this baby one day though..

http://www.thomann.de/gb/hagstrom_hj800.htm

I'll be able to buy it next week... Can barely wait!!!
It'll be nice to have a more "jazzy" sound.

 

[BigApplePi]

Well, I could just ask people random questions and stuff, but that just seems like stupid small talk to me. I want an interesting and deeper conversation when I talk to people. And of course it has to be a topic that I'm interested in.
Talking about the weather does not interest me.
And as said, I'm not good at starting such conversations.

Go ahead and ask random questions but small talk is not small talk. That is a common mistake by not looking at context.
Re: How To Understand Anything

Small talk is testing as well as a pastime. It's to see whether the person is friendly or willing to talk. Don't talk to someone who has your shortcomings (if you don't want to talk and they don't either it will come to nothing.) At the same time there are people who just want to vent and you are not interested. They're no help either. What you are after is a common theme.

You said, "I want an interesting and deeper conversation." I almost missed that. What interests? You haven't said. That is what small talk is for. It's a lead in to get friendly and spring your interest on them. If they don't get friendly, turn away.

Suppose I give you a homework assignment. This is a very big forum with lots of threads of all types. Go to some. Read some. Then come back here and describe your experience. Did none grab you? Did any grab you? The next step would be to try to post something, But maybe not yet. I'm not the best teacher on this. Actually my motive is to see if I will have any effect on what your reaction will be.