Are most of the people here insane?

[BigApplePi]

Define "pseudo-intellectual." How can you tell a pseudo-intellectual apart from an actual intellectual?

By an intellectual interaction and a subjective judgment.

 

[Lobstrich]

Define "pseudo-intellectual." How can you tell a pseudo-intellectual apart from an actual intellectual?

Note that I said feel like.. I never said that I know when a person is pseudo or actual intellectual.


How can I tell? Well I can't. But that doesn't mean I don't get to think a person trying to add or is just being pretentious.

 

[Lobstrich]

By an intellectual interaction and a subjective judgment.

I wish I had that kind of eloquence in my arguments.

I've always been told that I'm very linguistic.
Maybe that's just the case when I speak Danish.

Though, in my opinion being linguistic doesn't necessarily have to mean that you speak very well, and use 'nice' words. It can also be your thoughts on language, your perception.

I think language is alive, I believe that I can say "liveness" and act as if it is a 'real' word. Because I think it is.
That's how language evolves, we create new words. Say stuff that doesn't make sense but eventually will.

EDIT: Where is 'dansk' by the way? Don't tell me this was a hit 'n' run thread, or whatever they are called! He should take part of it! We just hit 4 pages!

 

[Lobstrich]

Lobstrich. What I do if someone says something that stimulates nothing new to me I go on to something else. On the other hand if I stick around someone ELSE may pick up on something new I did not see. A plus!

BTW I don't recognize the term, "pseudo-intellectual." They are just trying. If they want to put something on display, let them.

Yes, but your first point only actually works on forums like this. Were several people take part.
Personally, I wouldn't want to sit around with a 'pseudo-intellectual' for 2 hours, waiting for someone to pass by and say "Hey! I see what you did there. How about this?"

So I'll move along to something else.


And your 'btw' a joke? Sorry if I ruined it. I just don't quite get it. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

 

[Lobstrich]

The truly insane can diagnose anything. If they diagnose themselves as insane they would still have to be checked out. But if they are checked out by an insane person that insane person could deny they're insane whereupon we would have to bring them here to this board for a checkout. They would have to pass an insanity test. If they flunked the insanity test, the insanity test itself would need be subject to review. Peer review would be up for grabs meaning ..... wait a minute. My pills are coming. My left arm is not tied down.

Well.. Some might say that the only ones that are insane, are those who think they have the power and right to diagnose and put a label such as 'insane' on other people.

 

[Lobstrich]

Hmm why did this thread suddenly die?

 

[nexion]

It's only been one day. I hardly think that constitutes dying.

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

Should have died a while ago there is nothing interesting about arguing over who has the right to call who insane, i dont even know if that is neccessarily what is being talked about becasue there are too many long boring posts for me to actually stop and read.

Just saying.

 

[BigApplePi]

Hmm why did this thread suddenly die?

So you have an affinity for insanity, eh Lobstrich? That tells us something about you.

Anyway I recall a loose thread in this thread I wanted to tie. Ready?

It was something about straightening out the meaning of insults in terms of inside and outside. I assume you are familiar with Jimi Hendricks? Okay then. Let's say I say to him, "You are a terrible musician." Would that be an insult? It certainly looks like it because Hendricks is reported to be a lot better than "terrible." If Eric Clampton were to say that it would mean a lot more. So it makes a great deal of difference WHO calls him a terrible musician. One has to interpret what is said. The correct interpretation or at least a better one is, "I think you are a terrible musician." Then it is a lot more clear that it's a personal statement not a universal one. When I say it Hendricks would not be insulted because he suspects it's coming from the musically uninformed. Makes sense?

 

[Lobstrich]

It's only been one day. I hardly think that constitutes dying.

Oh well.. I just had the feeling that 3 days had gone.

I'm quite 'time-oblivious' sometimes

 

[Saoshyant]

When someone is interested in MBTI, it is usually out of neccesity. They are having some sort of psychological difficulty, whether it be minor or major. Ranging from getting a job to understanding that crazy bitch ex-girlfriend! So the more you are into it, the more problems you have to deal with is something I agree with. What is so bad with being a little 'neurotic'?

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

Would it sound insane if i told you im going to stalk Saoshyant while everyone else in delaware is at the pumpkin chunkin? I must eat the brain of every INTP within a hundred miles, and i shall become the supreme overlord. So i can.. sit at home... and do nothing, just like now, but i will be able to make people bleed out of their eyes when they call me lazy.

You can't hide!

 

[Saoshyant]

I will then spoil your plans by going to the Pumpkin Chunkin! Wait a second..

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

Its all good, im too lazy to hunt you down.

Dont let me catch you in Maryland though.

Muahahahaha

 

[Lobstrich]

When someone is interested in MBTI, it is usually out of neccesity. They are having some sort of psychological difficulty, whether it be minor or major. Ranging from getting a job to understanding that crazy bitch ex-girlfriend! So the more you are into it, the more problems you have to deal with is something I agree with. What is so bad with being a little 'neurotic'?

So you're basically saying that if one is curious one has problems..

I disagree.

 

[Lobstrich]

So you have an affinity for insanity, eh Lobstrich? That tells us something about you.

Anyway I recall a loose thread in this thread I wanted to tie. Ready?

It was something about straightening out the meaning of insults in terms of inside and outside. I assume you are familiar with Jimi Hendricks? Okay then. Let's say I say to him, "You are a terrible musician." Would that be an insult? It certainly looks like it because Hendricks is reported to be a lot better than "terrible." If Eric Clampton were to say that it would mean a lot more. So it makes a great deal of difference WHO calls him a terrible musician. One has to interpret what is said. The correct interpretation or at least a better one is, "I think you are a terrible musician." Then it is a lot more clear that it's a personal statement not a universal one. When I say it Hendricks would not be insulted because he suspects it's coming from the musically uninformed. Makes sense?

Sure it does. But I disagree. I don't think it makes a difference wether or not it's Clapton insulting.
I think we all the the right to have opinions (As long as they are informed opinions)

Of course, one would probably take it more seriously if a person like Clapton insulted instead of some random guy that doesn't even like guitars. So in that way, it does make a difference, yes.

 

[BigApplePi]

Sure it does. But I disagree. I don't think it makes a difference wether or not it's Clapton insulting.
I think we all the the right to have opinions (As long as they are informed opinions)

Of course, one would probably take it more seriously if a person like Clapton insulted instead of some random guy that doesn't even like guitars. So in that way, it does make a difference, yes.

What? You disagree? I disagree that you disagree. Sounds more like you agree. But I disagree an opinion HAS to be informed. Anyone can have an opinion, informed or not. They are checking out what's what. If they are wrong in their opinion, they can be asked why they feel that way. Why wouldn't they like guitars? Is something else preferred or do they not like music at all? There is an opportunity to find out about them. If we aren't interested, then I say let it go and ignore them. No?

 

[Lobstrich]

What? You disagree? I disagree that you disagree. Sounds more like you agree. But I disagree an opinion HAS to be informed. Anyone can have an opinion, informed or not. They are checking out what's what. If they are wrong in their opinion, they can be asked why they feel that way. Why wouldn't they like guitars? Is something else preferred or do they not like music at all? There is an opportunity to find out about them. If we aren't interested, then I say let it go and ignore them. No?

What you ended up saying, about opinions. I agree with.
But I still feel that people who cannot form informed opinions and just spout ignorant and hating nonsense about everything that they do not care about. Should just keep their mouths shut.

 

[Thread Killer]

What I cannot wrap my mind around is why I or anyone would think they are extraordinary for associating with an MBTI type...I mean...whut? Not something I personally base my self-esteem off of, but okay.

 

[BigApplePi]

Yes most of the people here are insane. If we are to act democratically they should all be elected to political office. Hey wait a minute. They are!

 

[Lobstrich]

What I cannot wrap my mind around is why I or anyone would think they are extraordinary for associating with an MBTI type...I mean...whut? Not something I personally base my self-esteem off of, but okay.

Who ever said that they think this?

 

[nexion]

Who ever said that they think this?

It happens.

 

[Lobstrich]

It happens.

I've never experienced that. Give me an example.

 

[nexion]

I've never experienced that. Give me an example.

Examples? I couldn't give you real-life examples, but the concept is easily understandable and applicable. Let's just take the INTP personality type, for example. INTP's are usually seen as (read: stereotyped as, even in the type descriptions) extremely intelligent, intuitive, and creative. All types have specific traits that the others don't. Now consider this: while an ESFJ or ESFP may not find the above traits too particularly appealing, to an INTP, they sound fantastic. Therefore, the INTP (or any other type) may see their own traits as fantastic, and others as less than desirable, and will then have pride in his type, which he may or not perceive as directly influencing his ability in said traits, without possibly even realizing that others may not find the same traits quite as amazing or useful as he does. People who go around blithely shouting how great it is to be their type while flaunting its traits, and who may consider others to be inferior to him, generally carry this belief.

I've seen it happen before.

 

[Lobstrich]

Examples? I couldn't give you real-life examples, but the concept is easily understandable and applicable. Let's just take the INTP personality type, for example. INTP's are usually seen as (read: stereotyped as, even in the type descriptions) extremely intelligent, intuitive, and creative. All types have specific traits that the others don't. Now consider this: while an ESFJ or ESFP may not find the above traits too particularly appealing, to an INTP, they sound fantastic. Therefore, the INTP (or any other type) may see their own traits as fantastic, and others as less than desirable, and will then have pride in his type, which he may or not perceive as directly influencing his ability in said traits, without possibly even realizing that others may not find the same traits quite as amazing or useful as he does. People who go around blithely shouting how great it is to be their type while flaunting its traits, and who may consider others to be inferior to him, generally carry this belief.

I've seen it happen before.

Sure. I completely agree with you!

Nobody ever said that they think this way though. And assuming that they think this way without actually knowing wether or not they do. Is not very open-minded, in my opinion.

 

[gruesomebrat]

Though neither am I convinced of the sanity of humans as a species.

Well said. I don't see that it matters if the people on this forum are insane since it seems that the entire race is, if not insane, the next thing to it. Most people that I have seen on this forum so far, however, seem perfectly capable of logical, coherent thought, which I don't think characterizes an insane person's thought processes.

Then again, I'm human, so probably insane myself, and if you so choose, you may feel free to disregard any ramblings from me.

 

[Bird]

I get that impression when reading threads on this forum. I'll come across about one in ten posts that are utterly incomprehensible.

There are people who offer up series of entirely unconnected thoughts that would be confusing enough on their own but end up sounding like Zen koans when strung together, there are people who speak only in metaphors about animals, people who take such a delight in using technical language that us mere mortals can't have a hope of figuring out what the hell they're rambling on about.

Is this an INTP thing? Do we delight in being the super-intelligent clairvoyants so far out in front of the rest of the pack that we can't tolerate anyone else knowing what's going on in our heads? Is this a reaction to the nagging suspicion that we're actually very average and not as extraordinary as we imagine ourselves to be?

I think this is silly.
Hahahahahahah.


(:


I do not necessarily think
that all INTPs have this
quality about their person.
I also do not think that
posts are necessarily
incomprehensible. I've
been lurking for about a
month (okay - I realize
this is not that impressive
of a time frame.) and most
threads I find utterly enjoyable
by the intensity and the
fabulous word choice and
the faith and I am going to
say almost assertive behaviour
that is portrayed.

I am going to stop rambling.


I do not think all INTPs are
super human intellectuals.
And that is all I am going to
say. Though I do acknowledge
and enjoy the threads and
posts. Even if I find them a
bit dodgy and odd at times.


So abrasive.



Also please explain to me
how you reached the con-
clusion that "super-intelli-
gent clairvoyants" equate
insanity or being crazed,
what have you?

 

[MunkySpanker]

I think this is silly.
Hahahahahahah.


(:


I do not necessarily think
that all INTPs have this
quality about their person.
I also do not think that
posts are necessarily
incomprehensible. I've
been lurking for about a
month (okay - I realize
this is not that impressive
of a time frame.) and most
threads I find utterly enjoyable
by the intensity and the
fabulous word choice and
the faith and I am going to
say almost assertive behaviour
that is portrayed.

I am going to stop rambling.


I do not think all INTPs are
super human intellectuals.
And that is all I am going to
say. Though I do acknowledge
and enjoy the threads and
posts. Even if I find them a
bit dodgy and odd at times.


So abrasive.



Also please explain to me
how you reached the con-
clusion that "super-intelli-
gent clairvoyants" equate
insanity or being crazed,
what have you?

Bird -- it annoys me that your smiley, or sad faces, are backwards "(:" instead of ""

I would like to put forth that people smile with their eyes first, so it would make more sense to go left to right, and put the eyes (colon or colons? or would it be colii if I were referring to two colons next to each other?)

 

[gruesomebrat]

I submit that perhaps he is Arabic or Hebrew. In which case his smilies do have the eyes first... stupid Arabs and Jews are all backward-like. Kind of like the Europeans driving on the wrong side of the road.

 

[nexion]

I submit that perhaps he is Arabic or Hebrew. In which case his smilies do have the eyes first... stupid Arabs and Jews are all backward-like. Kind of like the Europeans driving on the wrong side of the road.

I've never seen such blatant insults against multiple nationalities...

 

[The Gopher]

I've never seen such blatant insults against multiple nationalities...

you need to get out more...

 

[BigApplePi]

you need to get out more...

If you do decide to get out more, you will face a certain insecurity not faced when you face the security of the familiar. Don't let that alarm you. The new stuff is really a manipulation of old stuff you fail to recognize when recognizing it is masked by deception brought about by over-familiarity with the familiar.

If you do decide to get out more, not that that is the wisest decision, there is no telling what you'll find. There will be lot's that will surprise you, but that is so expected that it should not surprise you.

 

[Awaken]

I do not find most posts here incomprehensible. And though most are really long, I just assume that the poster has spent significant energy into developing a thought, and is now tasked with trying to relay it through language(which is limited).

Not limited in explaining the thought necessarily, but limited in capturing the essence of what is truly trying to be said. To me it is out of a need to be understood fully(or listened to fully). Not on a superficial level, but to actually have someone capture what it is I am trying to say. I have found that most people in the world lack a certain quality/skill in themselves to be able to do this(listen).

It is very comforting when you are able to explain something, and confirm that someone knows what you are talking about based on their comments/further questions. I assume most INTP's do not have this in their day to day life, so like someone else was saying, it is like a game. This is a playground. Where else can we find people who can follow us, and then challenge us using the same method we use in our own life?

 

[Zero]

If most of the people here are insane, it stands to reason that we are not the insane ones.

Someone mentioned pumpkin.

Mm pumpkin pie...

 

[nexion]

you need to get out more...

Well... if you want to get technical, I have never seen worse baseless insults. I have heard them, a dime a dozen.

I guess I need to get in more?

 

[gruesomebrat]

I'm confused... what insults? I was just commenting on the fact that both the Arabic language and the Hebrew language are read from right to left, instead of normal... how is this insulting to the Arabs and Jews?

As far as the stupid Europeans driving on the wrong side of the road... that was an insult. Personally, I think the Europeans need to adopt the following plan. Switch to the American system of driving on the right; gradually phased in over five years with large trucks and tractors first, then buses, eventually including small cars and bicycles last. (Originally a Rhinocerous Party of Canada platform)

 

[Minuend]

Hello there o Grusome. Just wanted to let you know that there are other nations beside GB in Europe.

Cheers

 

[gruesomebrat]

So, it's really only the Brits and the Aussies that don't know how to drive??

EDIT: Next time, I promise to look at the links you send me before replying to the text of the comment...

 

[BigApplePi]

It is very comforting when you are able to explain something, and confirm that someone knows what you are talking about based on their comments/further questions. I assume most INTP's do not have this in their day to day life, so like someone else was saying, it is like a game. This is a playground. Where else can we find people who can follow us, and then challenge us using the same method we use in our own life?

Yes. Being introverted does carry its hazards. Being among INTPs or other people of thinking, even if they are sane, does compensate a little for that introversion. I wish I had more friends though but I don't know how hard I'm wishing that as I'm doing other questionable stuff.

 

[BitRogue]

Damn, I wanted to comment on the original topic but I see this thread has mutated far too much.

In this case, I just want to say that I'm insulted that my country was not mentioned in the list of insulted countries who drive on the wrong side of the road. I think your education is lacking.

 

[BigApplePi]

Damn, I wanted to comment on the original topic but I see this thread has mutated far too much.

In this case, I just want to say that I'm insulted that my country was not mentioned in the list of insulted countries who drive on the wrong side of the road. I think your education is lacking.

Right side; wrong side. Certainly you people are biased. Do not take sides. Do not feel so easily insulted. You live in free countries, don't you? Drive on BOTH sides. Just pick a side. Drive on that. Then if too many follow you just switch sides. INTPs are supposed to be objective and non-judgmental.

 

[walfin]

Then if too many follow you just switch sides.

What's wrong with people following you? Thought the people in front would be the bigger problem.

INTPs are supposed to be objective and non-judgmental.

Pretty ironic, this statement.

 

[BigApplePi]

What's wrong with people following you? Thought the people in front would be the bigger problem.

There is nothing wrong with having followers. You are their leader. You are in a strong position to confront those in front.

Pretty ironic, this statement.

Just because you are being told what to do doesn't mean the teller is being judgmental.

The irony is being told a statement is ironic is judgmental and ironic.