Am I an INTP, INTJ or something else entirely?

[Czech Yes or No]

I have taken a multitude of MBTI tests and have scored ENTJ, INTJ and INTP. Every time I take one, I garner a different answer. My question to my esteemed colleagues of INTP Forum is a simple one: am I an INTP or something else?

I enjoy reading practically anything: the newspaper, any kind of textbook, even the back of the cereal box at breakfast. Also, I enjoy history and philosophy, they both come relatively naturally to me. I also spend much of my waking hours thinking about things. Not necessarily the "right here and now" kind of things but more deep things, such as the purpose of life (I still have not come up with anything and have receded to existential nihilism). I often become so obsessed with my thoughts that I don't even know what is going on around me, an especially dangerous habit during driving. I often feel like it is tough to deal with people because I have a hard time explaining things to them in a way that is as good as it sounds in my mind. I fail miserably at chess (an INTJ pastime) but I am also not as introverted as INTP's are defined as being.

Thoughts?
Ask any questions to further your available information and I will answer them to the best of my abilities.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

GXY once hypothesized that completing several tests resulting in ENTJ, INTJ and INTP, means that you're an INTJ.

 

[Czech Yes or No]

Okay, thank you, but could you explain your response or perhaps link the page?

 

[Wizardry]

This might help. http://personalityjunkie.com/the-intp/

I'd focus particularly on the part about Ni vs Ne.

 

[Mello]

Do you have a favourite color?

Would you be willing to talk to anyone?

 

[Czech Yes or No]

I don't really have a favorite color.

I usually don't talk to new people, but then open up to friends. Sometimes I find myself too extroverted in "safe" environments.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Okay, thank you, but could you explain your response or perhaps link the page?

I don't really have a favorite color.


I usually don't talk to new people, but then open up to friends. Sometimes I find myself too extroverted in "safe" environments.

You reek of INTJ...

 

[Czech Yes or No]

You reek of INTJ...

Why would you say that?

I do not trend to have much of the traits that define an INTJ: strategic thinking, perseverance or self-satisfaction.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Why would you say that?

I do not trend to have much of the traits that define an INTJ: strategic thinking, perseverance or self-satisfaction.

Exactly, which means you're an INTP.

(This whole thing was less a declaration of Jness and more of a very large poke with a sharp stick looking for a response, which contained a misspelling, something a J would never do. Going on to explain how it's just a simple typo that could happen to anyone is actually more evidence of P, as is the inability to decide on a favorite color, inability to decide among mbti type descriptions, etc., etc. Embrace your Pness.).

Welcome to the club!

 

[Czech Yes or No]

*tend

Thank you for effectively answering my question with a test, my faith in this forum is restored.

 

[Wizardry]

Bad spelling is not a lack of J orientation. The I/E and P/J functions are the ones with least solidity and usually more for determining the orientation of the other functions, or trying to help understand the function stack. The S/N and F/T are more solid as they are your ways of taking in and deciding what you think or feel about things and less about your mood at the time. Also deciding on a "favorite color" seems like a poor test because I often find that the lesser things are dependent highly on my mood. The traits listed for an INTJ also seems a bit off because there are the "INTJ's" with something to prove vs the ones with nothing to exactly prove and a completely different set of what we focus on while still using Ni and not leaning heavily on feelings. Not all of the type are what is presented on those forums.

I really don't care what type you are just it would suck if it took you a year or two later and you found that something else offered better information for what you were trying to learn.

The biggest gap between me and the INTP's I've gradually become close too is just a different approach to problem solving and a more externalized and very different perception of feeling via their Fe. Easiest test is just analyzing how you choose to handle a problem, though the result might end up similar the way getting there will be different.

Like, you are expected to attend a social function you really don't want to go to but people you care about say you HAVE to be there. You also have a crush on a person who will be there and that person lent you a book. Its been a really long time and that person will probably expect you to have read some of the book and probably ask you questions about the book. What would be your thoughts on the matter and what feeling inputs would be present?

 

[Czech Yes or No]

Bad spelling is not a lack of J orientation. The I/E and P/J functions are the ones with least solidity and usually more for determining the orientation of the other functions, or trying to help understand the function stack. The S/N and F/T are more solid as they are your ways of taking in and deciding what you think or feel about things and less about your mood at the time. Also deciding on a "favorite color" seems like a poor test because I often find that the lesser things are dependent highly on my mood. The traits listed for an INTJ also seems a bit off because there are the "INTJ's" with something to prove vs the ones with nothing to exactly prove and a completely different set of what we focus on while still using Ni and not leaning heavily on feelings. Not all of the type are what is presented on those forums.

I really don't care what type you are just it would suck if it took you a year or two later and you found that something else offered better information for what you were trying to learn.

The biggest gap between me and the INTP's I've gradually become close too is just a different approach to problem solving and a more externalized and very different perception of feeling via their Fe. Easiest test is just analyzing how you choose to handle a problem, though the result might end up similar the way getting there will be different.

Like, you are expected to attend a social function you really don't want to go to but people you care about say you HAVE to be there. You also have a crush on a person who will be there and that person lent you a book. Its been a really long time and that person will probably expect you to have read some of the book and probably ask you questions about the book. What would be your thoughts on the matter and what feeling inputs would be present?

I don't exactly understand what you are saying but I will attempt to answer what I think you are asking.

I would probably just try to get through the situation by reading a little about the book and try to impress the person that I have a crush on.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Bad spelling is not a lack of J orientation. The I/E and P/J functions are the ones with least solidity and usually more for determining the orientation of the other functions, or trying to help understand the function stack. The S/N and F/T are more solid as they are your ways of taking in and deciding what you think or feel about things and less about your mood at the time. Also deciding on a "favorite color" seems like a poor test because I often find that the lesser things are dependent highly on my mood. The traits listed for an INTJ also seems a bit off because there are the "INTJ's" with something to prove vs the ones with nothing to exactly prove and a completely different set of what we focus on while still using Ni and not leaning heavily on feelings. Not all of the type are what is presented on those forums.

Triangulation sir, triangulation. We're measuring a latent construct.

 

[GYX_Kid]

Exactly, which means you're an INTP.

(This whole thing was less a declaration of Jness and more of a very large poke with a sharp stick looking for a response, which contained a misspelling, something a J would never do. Going on to explain how it's just a simple typo that could happen to anyone is actually more evidence of P, as is the inability to decide on a favorite color, inability to decide among mbti type descriptions, etc., etc. Embrace your Pness.).

I disagree:

GXY once hypothesized that completing several tests resulting in ENTJ, INTJ and INTP, means that you're an INTJ.

 

[Czech Yes or No]

I disagree:

What is your reasoning behind the assertion of INTJ from INTJ, ENTJ and INTP from MBTI tests?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Like, you are expected to attend a social function you really don't want to go to but people you care about say you HAVE to be there.

Typical

You also have a crush on a person who will be there

Unlikely, I'd rather us do our own thing. In case we are not that familiar yet:

and that person lent you a book.

I rarely borrow anything, but..:

Its been a really long time and that person will probably expect you to have read some of the book and probably ask you questions about the book. What would be your thoughts on the matter and what feeling inputs would be present?

Tell the truth. It's not really a big deal nor something I would be pretentious about. I naturally forget appointments and stuff like that so their attitude towards me after finding out that I was lazy / forgetful and didn't read the book will largely determine my next thought / decision.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I disagree:

Oh boy... Here it comes...

 

[GYX_Kid]

What is your reasoning behind the assertion of INTJ from INTJ, ENTJ and INTP from MBTI tests?

lol, it was just the spelling error thing. That INTJs such as Proxy would apparently make sure not to make. Not important.

Oh, if you got those three then maybe INTJ is sorta inbetween. But I glanced over your descriptions of yourself, and you could be inbetween on a couple of letters or something. Actually, INTPs and ENTJs may often learn how to look like each other, due to having dominant thinking- which if mastered to a certain degree, can be made to look like its inverse. (example: Bill Gates.) I've also seen INTJs look like ENTPs when extroverting.

 

[Dapper Dan]

Everything you've said so far sounds like Ti and Ne to me. So probably either INTP or ENTP.

 

[lucky12]

My tests turned out the same.

Seems like I am INTJ when I'm alone and ENTP when I go out with close friends. After years of them telling me I was too quiet I started to talk, even though my thought process doesn't seem to make sense to them.

This situation becomes pronounced when I'm doing school work or something which is similar. When I'm alone I find it a lot easier to focus on important aspects, otherwise I focus on all the wrong stuff. I always tell people that if they need me to fix their car for them forget about it because I get super nervous, but I do everything on my own cars they probably don't even believe me.

 

[AureliaSeverina]

lol, it was just the spelling error thing. That INTJs such as Proxy would apparently make sure not to make. Not important.

Oh, if you got those three then maybe INTJ is sorta inbetween. But I glanced over your descriptions of yourself, and you could be inbetween on a couple of letters or something. Actually, INTPs and ENTJs may often learn how to look like each other, due to having dominant thinking- which if mastered to a certain degree, can be made to look like its inverse. (example: Bill Gates.) I've also seen INTJs look like ENTPs when extroverting.

Yep, but Ti-types would still sound a lot more precise than Ni-types. INTPs and ENTPs always seem to know (or need to know) the "right" word for everything. They seem to need a close match between concepts and the words for them, whereas INTJs and ENTJs paraphrase more and express themselves in a more meandering way.

 

[Auburn]

Yep, but Ti-types would still sound a lot more precise than Ni-types. INTPs and ENTPs always seem to know (or need to know) the "right" word for everything. They seem to need a close match between concepts and the words for them, whereas INTJs and ENTJs paraphrase more and express themselves in a more meandering way.

This is true.

 

[AureliaSeverina]

This is true.

LOL. That proves my point

 

[Reluctantly]

Heh, if you're INTP and you ever have to work closely with an INTJ, you'll never question being INTJ again. They are anal bastards that want everything done a certain way that makes sense to them, otherwise they assume you are incompetent by default just because they aren't sure about your abilities.

KILL THEM ALL!

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Heh, if you're INTP and you ever have to work closely with an INTJ, you'll never question being INTJ again. They are anal bastards that want everything done a certain way that makes sense to them, otherwise they assume you are incompetent by default just because they aren't sure about your abilities.

KILL THEM ALL!

I take offense at the way you construct your paragraphs! It does not make sense. You're incompetent!

 

[Reluctantly]

I take offense at the way you construct your paragraphs! It does not make sense. You're incompetent!

Yes, exactly.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Exactly, which means you're an INTP.

(This whole thing was less a declaration of Jness and more of a very large poke with a sharp stick looking for a response, which contained a misspelling, something a J would never do. Going on to explain how it's just a simple typo that could happen to anyone is actually more evidence of P, as is the inability to decide on a favorite color, inability to decide among mbti type descriptions, etc., etc. Embrace your Pness.).

Welcome to the club!

I have an INTJ friend and when we chat online he makes typos somewhat often, but he doesn't seem to care about them.. I think he assumes I know they're typos and that I know what he means..

Point is, INTJ friend does typos but it could be an individual thing, or something.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Point is, INTJ friend does typos but it could be an individual thing, or something.

I was pretty much BSing in the hope that the OP would find a line of logic that made sense and run with it as some newfangledly accurate truth (troof mang, troof).

I'm now honestly assuming INTJ, mainly because the OP has disapperated from the forum.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Thought you may have been doing something like that.

 

[Czech Yes or No]

I haven't dissapeared, I have just been busy lurking.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I haven't dissapeared, I have just been busy lurking.

Exactly. You disapperated. Distinct difference.

 

[IssphitiKOzS]

Something else entirely, known as a TWAT.

 

[Czech Yes or No]

Hmm, I'll just head on over to INTJ Forum now...

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Hmm, I'll just head on over to INTJ Forum now...

To maintain your sanity I suggest you don't do this.

 

[Melkor]

You kidding?

The INTJ forum is the biggest collection of loonies, insaneonauts, bent minds and mentalists I've ever encountered in my life other than the INFJ forum!D:

They'll drive you mad with their precise, power hungry ways!

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

You kidding?

The INTJ forum is the biggest collection of loonies, insaneonauts, bent minds and mentalists I've ever encountered in my life other than the INFJ forum!D:

They'll drive you mad with their precise, power hungry ways!

I am in agreement. They're collectively bat shit insane.

 

[Czech Yes or No]

Okay.

@Proxy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Okay.

@Proxy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk

Yeah, I saw this a few years back. Very amusing.

 

[Czech Yes or No]

Unfortunately, when you say "amusing" it appears that you disliked it and were just trying to appear nice.

 

[AureliaSeverina]

Unfortunately, when you say "amusing" it appears that you disliked it and were just trying to appear nice.

LOL, welcome to the world of INTPs and INTJs. We're all ass-hats, don't take us too seriously.

 

[Czech Yes or No]

Unfortunately, when you say "amusing" it appears that you disliked it and were just trying to appear nice.

 

[Czech Yes or No]

Your usage of amusing leads me to self-doubt in my attempt at humor.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Unfortunately, when you say "amusing" it appears that you disliked it and were just trying to appear nice.

No, I enjoyed it.

 

[Czech Yes or No]

Sorry for the multiple posts, it was due to trasy high school internet. It led me to believe that my post didn't post. At least I added to my post count.

BTW, is there a respectable community of non-INTP's on this forum? Just in case I am not one.

 

[AureliaSeverina]

I'm an INTJ. Don't know whether I'm respectable
But who says you can only get along with people of your own type?

 

[Czech Yes or No]

I'm an INTJ. Don't know whether I'm respectable
But who says you can only get along with people of your own type?

Interesting enough point, but why did you join INTP forum in the first place? (If you aren't one.)

 

[Czech Yes or No]

Sorry for the multiple posts, it was due to trasy high school internet. It led me to believe that my post didn't post. At least I added to my post count.

BTW, is there a respectable community of non-INTP's on this forum? Just in case I am not one.

*trashy

 

[scorpiomover]

I often become so obsessed with my thoughts that I don't even know what is going on around me, an especially dangerous habit during driving.

No-one but a Ti-dom (INTP/ISTP) would be that obsessed with just thinking, to be that extreme.

but I am also not as introverted as INTP's are defined as being.

You are probably iNTP. INTP, but with low introversion.

I am in agreement. They're collectively bat shit insane.

No wonder I've spent so much time there.

 

[AureliaSeverina]

Interesting enough point, but why did you join INTP forum in the first place? (If you aren't one.)

Because they entertain me with their strange ways and provide a different perspective when my head is too far up my own arse.

 

[Czech Yes or No]

This is greatly off topic, but I could not find a better place to post this.

Where is the "start new thread" button? I seem to have lost mine.

EDIT: Never mind, I found it. How did I lose it in the first place?