Well if that were true, then the human race would know nothing. Because we've started out with the absence of any empirical models. ;] Err, but more to your question ==!
The way I know is via the explanation. In the video it's explained why each of those signals occurs, from a psychological...
She is @PhoenixRising. :)
It is just us, yes. We're content with that atm. The burden of proof falls on us, so before asking for more help we intend to put something complete forward (vid series) and see if people find that accurate. In reality more hands wouldn't help atm since it's all in...
Cybeny - Ah, whoopsies! :P That video isn't supposed to be there yet! You're correct in that she isn't TiNe but does have those functions. The TiNe video hasn't yet been made. As for telling apart the order of the functions -- there are ways, yes. The intro video [posted in the OP] doesn't have...
The main focus is to share knowledge. It is part of our polar-Fe's impulse to externalize and impact the outer world. Though I would be content with simply putting it out there, even if nobody listened to it...
Where and how far that reaches & impacts the world is unknown, but it will spread...
Celebrity Types? ...I don't know too much about that site but from what I've seen of it, it has a very generic view of typology, an entirely stereotypical form of typing -- hence why they type figures that are centuries old based on their famous accomplishments or some quotes.
Maybe you were...
(As for the so-called unconscious/shadow functions, I think my position would be this: "The theory on this site does not venture to inform on the subconscious, of which it admits to be ignorant, but on the apparatus of consciousness. It is far too easy to make speculation as to the nature...
There are indeed four functions, because they always come in pairs. The psyche has a pair of perception functions and a pair of judgment processes -- one pair of which is dominant in the psyche while the other pair is subordinate.
In this way I do somewhat disagree with Jung believing the 3...
@snafupants - Sure. ^^
'Naive' and especially 'childlike' are a bit ambiguous - especially considering Ni/Se children don't have it. Unfortunately the look of Ne/Si can best be shown rather than described.. and giving more verbal descriptions would be counterproductive to the point of...
Lol.. ^^;
yeah.. and we're both terribly awkward. But I guess that's what two INTP/TiNe look like on camera pretending (and failing!) to be extroverted. >.<
Our video-making skillz will probably improve with time too though, I hope. It's the content that we want to communicate most tho. Thanks...
Hello dear forum.. ^^
I'm happy and exhausted to bring to you something I hope you enjoy. The video below, and what will follow is an accumulation of years of thought & theory - summed up as best as we can - in the hopes of ushering in a new comprehension of psychology. ..no INTPs were...
I didn't mean "you" specifically, I meant it in the general sense and actually referring to Dawkins (who I read as Je-lead). I don't know what type you are... >.>
I said "no other factors considered" for a reason. Obviously one can't type people that easily and I'm the one whose against typing...
@scorpiomover ..
:facepalm: ...there is so much fallacy. lol.
Firstly, the fact (supposing it is indeed a fact, I don't know) that British women nag more than women of other country, is still a behavior. In fact, it confirms that nagging is behavioral and subject to different contexts such as...
Nagging is a behavior; as such it is not specific to any psychic process. IxxJs may have no functions common with each other. You are looking at this in terms of the four letter code - which is a false perspective.
Richard Dawkins has excessive conviction; he has a lot of "Judgment" (not...
He is listed as such on some sites, probably because he took the test at some point in his career and that's what he got. Said "cool beans" then moved on. Then mypersonality.info got a hold of that trivia and published it on their site without thinking twice.
But ya, he's hardcore ENTP.
Lordran Nights - The thing is, more expressiveness doesn't directly correlate with hierarchical position. Let me explain.
There is a phenomenon that happens with all explorer (Ne/Se lead) types, and that is that they have a lot of momentum to them -- and part of that momentum includes their...
Holy crap, I could tell Amy Pheoler was Te+Ni instantly. Like, just by viewing the thumbnails on youtube.
Anne Hathaway is a very warm and buoyant type. Good Fe user with Ne momentum. She uses her functions in an interesting way, though. The way she bubbles up energy is quite high-Ne. Oh I...
Agh, Ink.. now u has me all confused. Going back and reviewing Depp I'm unsure. The Si is definitely there, and quite heavy, but I'll leave that one open for now. Leonardo DiCaprio has that cunning charm of an Fe, definitely. Compare him to other cunning badass actors like Denzel Washington. I...
I've watched probably over 2 hours of interviews of him before... :)
Now if by "INFP" you mean he's an introverted intuitive feeling perceiver, then I guess I agree. He fits the "profile" of an "INFP" according to MBTI. But his functions and his psychology is not Fi+Ne. He does not lead his...
Mmm ^^
@Mysty - Yeah, in general the way most people 'type' celebrities is via their topic of fame and possibly their quotes. Like believing someone who is a pop singer *has* to be some sort of extrovert. Or using Einstein quotes to determine his type.
@The Introvert - Stephen Colbert is a...
Hehe. Good! ...Because he's definitely not INTP, he's ESTJ. And totally breaks the stereotype of "ESTJs are dumb, brute workaholics". I quite admire him.
I could note a few more things about him too. Here are more cues of Te:
Te Smugness: There is a very specific look that strong Te dom/aux...
Oh. right. >.<
I was supposed to associate someone to Cavallier!
But, what if Cav is one of a kind? :confused:
*thinks* Cav can be paired with thehabitdoctor! problem solved! \o/
Oh I see, then it wasn't what I thought you were saying...
Ah, interesting, I'm glad to have helped you learn a bit.. o.o
Hmm... there are other cues I've identified that are less ambiguous than warming/cooling. {indeed all types warm & cool at different times}.
Fi in inferior position:
2...
Actors and actresses aren't wearing their acts 24/7. They put it on for the movie, then take it off when work is done..
When a person is asked an unexpected question -- the neurology of their psyche has to construct an answer/reply on the spot. There is no time to rehearse, and as they...
*grins*
You're close! I think I know what you're trying to describe by "invisible eggboxes" (did you come up with that metaphor?) but that trait is not exclusive to Te, it is a trait of both articulation functions (Te&Fe). Vertical and horizontal head shakes are shared by both.
The difference...
This type of objection to video-typing is way too broad..
The variables that determine what footage is reliable and what isn't is more subtle than "they're a celebrity, therefore they're always putting up a mask". That type of umbrella answer is flawed in:
Assuming all celebrity figures wear...
@Montresor - )=
Welp, I mean. gah...
Sorry. I take things too seriously sometimes! Dx
Need to chill... ..need ta chill.. *goes drinks some diet soda* 0.x
@Ink - I concur!
@The Introvert : "Try going on youtube, click "Upload" then it'll give you an option to use webcam to record. If you have...
Nice, it's interesting that you're into this sort of thing also.
From a quick view...
- Shirley Manson is indeed TeNi/ENTJ, nice.
- Christine Bleakley isn't though, she's an Fe/Ti user, likely Fe-lead.
- Victoria Beckam does have those functions (Te/Fi/Se/Ni), but her Fi is really heavy. She...
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I don't much have special respect for people who anchor their arguments on appeals to authority, or change their argument 180 degrees for such a reason, whether that 'authority' is me or anyone else. Not that I understand why you'd even do so for me...
Perhaps you're just mocking. -.-
I would actually still be skeptical. (..surprisingly I once came across an ENTJ that via text sounded really Ti/Fe..) People of any type have time to compose their thoughts better in text, according to whatever memes they ascribe to, but via video they don't have an opportunity to mask...
@Reluctantly - Snafupants is quite probably an NeTi (ENTP) and that style of communication he's using is rather standard for them - though I agree with your frustration. o,o
Proxy is quite likely SiTe (ISTJ) or at very least definitely Te/Fi. That said, that totally isn't how Ti/Fe operates. The...
@Reluctantly - curious, i'd have to agree. though i must also say, when explaining an abstract concept becomes so limited to little more than a particular semantic statement(s) -- it is hardly possible to assess that said concept (in the purity that it is being described, refined to have no...
Or perhaps... even if they are somewhat 'permanent' tendencies they are only such because of environmental shaping of upbringing, or perhaps some other one of a million combinations of factors (like culture/family).
The addendums to this theory in the form of "wings" and "tri-type" is simply an...
I highly doubt the enneagram is anything more than nine arbitrary behavioral categories people fall into. In other words, one is only an enneagram type so long as their temporary life conditions sustain certain tendencies. It is nothing innate. Only contrived dichotomies which could have...
lol, what would be on it?
i mean.. there are already plenty of spinoff typology sites out there that try to better explain Jung (like the one you linked to) but none really hold much credence or popularity. What new understanding would you/we provide?
Why would that be relevant? o.o
Reading Jung's book, wouldn't it be obvious that questionnaires lack the sophistication required to discern psychic processes? I mean... It took Jung hundreds of pages to explain himself and what he saw. A theory of the mind is no small matter, nor is the...
@snafupants -
Letter by letter stuff wasn't what I was going for. :D
Since you did read Jung's book you know he didn't use the four letter code either. Oh, oh, bonus question! Don't you think it'd be easier if jungian typology was taught directly, without having to introduce people first to...
You just re-read it? The whole thing?! c.c
It's a funny phenomenon isn't it.. wanting to teach?
There must be some ego in our motives, paired with some sense of warped responsibility.
Perhaps, though, I can ask you some questions, since you feel in a teaching mood. :) What type would you...
@Lyra . I saw what you were saying... here.
I think I understand you more now. As I thought about the vastness of space, for a moment in time I left this time's mindset... and entered another in which the world of today is already forgotten, and the mentality of today; an archaic relic...
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