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  • I don't know much about the theory as well, but it seems we have different perspectives of what it is.

    5w4, as what I have read, is all about individualistic "artists" with "emotion".

    5w6 is about "nerds" who are slightly more social.


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    Was that forum a Socionics forum?
    What intrigues me is detail, aside from my name, that supports the idea that I am this person. If you possess any, kindly share.

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    Than just the question of enneagram? Because I know you well enough. You "swim in the deep waters". (Granted, I actually thought you wanted to discuss the theory instead of an individual. )

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    You say you test as 5w4. what is 5w4 about you and what is not?
    No. :)

    6w5. Isn't that quite far from 5w6?

    As you may have guessed, I have looked over this person. He's "language" is very different from mine but it is an interesting turn-out.
    You would probably know I would be curious enough to extend the detail of my answer and look for it and find out anyways.

    Another answer....I know that you know that I know the "bigger picture". Either that, or your question involving awareness is simply awareness. Which is highly unlikely. So , again, I ask why ask this question?
    I do.

    You did not ask but it is 5w6. The academician, or something, I believe. It's actually quite accurate. I prefer thinking in logic and I love engaging in social activities that involve collective critical thinking. I just recently read that and I'm quite surprised at the accuracy. The 5w4 is more interested in individualization. I like to be around people I share interests with. The prime "fruit" of my life is "discussion". But I'm still an introvert. Interesting...


    Urs?

    ...also, what is the idea behind this "awareness-oriented" question?
    You asked me how I feel that
    I don't fit in, that's why I told
    you, you asked.
    Well... I'm slightly more mean
    than they are I have noticed.


    I don't sugarcoat everything.
    I'm not overly nice. But then
    I'm comfortable in my situation
    there so I don't feel the need
    to pretend to be so nice any
    longer unlike most members.


    There are about four of us
    there that are very similar,
    though.
    I was out for a while...about a month or so. Somebody messaged me so I was getting back to them. Lots of things are going on IRL right now so my attendance might be low. Mostly I just wanted to not be so addicted to this place. I think I'm doing well so far.
    I agree with our similarity. But then I wonder about the logical validity of agreement. Anyways, it probably needs more identification similar to everything else. Now I'm starting to wonder if there are false imaginations. I guess there are...like 'dragons'. So in a similar way,(always "in a similar way". I'd voucher for the accuracy in naming said thinking "metaphorical thinking". In CF, "Ne-thinking". I am not sure but in the same way, I am not sure if my "sureness" matters. You ever get into this kind of loops?), more "sophisticated" ideas may be false. I mean, of course. I hope my paragraph is understandable.
    "It works for you, so that is all that matters." I can't help but intuit a contradiction. I can't help but think there is contradiction in this.

    "Existential Defeatism." I wonder why the word "Defeat"-ism. I cannot even imagine "defeat" as an "ism".

    Based on your definition, I remember hearing something similar wherein most just display it as "positive nihilism" or something. The only thing that bugs me is the "contradiction" I sense within it. In one word? illogical. Then again, this is "logic" I perceive as widely accepted....

    I should probably explain my charts better then. But it seems so ...exhausting.
    Thanks. It serves to remind myself of how awfully presumptuous I truly am in thinking that I am in any way objective. I apologize if my recent comment cauterized your ideas slightly. My burning confidence is what does this.
    Just saw your song you posted in the music section. For some reason this was the band that first came to my mind: YouTube - Dialeto - Seven Drunks

    It's pretty good I preffered the mellower parts to the distortion but that is likely just because of personal preference.
    A tad bogged down, lol. I need to complete a 4000 word essay on the OT by next week and I havn't started. Then comes exam period :)
    How about yourself? How were the holidays?
    And so, in all my refusals, I reduce myself to nil, nothing. This is, however, desirable, and necessary for development.
    And I refuse to conform to your goddamn vision of how the the world should, even how it is. I am my own person, independent of you. In truth, to be alive is be in chains, and to be die is to be free, but also, to be alive is to be able to be free, and, in a way, the choice to be free is greater than freedom itself. Freedom is a choice... and I choose to be free. To break all materialistic bonds and exist as pure energy or consciousness... or to not exist at all.
    I am not afraid of death. I am not afraid of admitting as truth ideas which others find repulsive and suppress. I am not afraid of the world, and I am not afraid of the ones the world would toss aside.
    You would say those words while meaning nothing, and then condemn me for not saying those words but having the purest intent? Hypocrite of hypocrites! blinded by what is 'proper' and 'appropriate.' You are a pharisee, who follows the law but has not understanding of it.

    You do not care for what has happened, but only about what you want to happen now. Regardless of what has happened previously, if one does not comply to your present demands, he is crucified for his insolence and disobedience. So crucify me. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
    Lol Nil, I was going to suggest to you, in my response, that I thought you might be an INFJ actually. Which might also explain why you relate to me and Jim so much [he is INFJ as well]
    Howdy, message in the loophole, I've got a holiday backlog lol and I like to spend time with emails, they're one of the only art form I can involve myself in. ;)
    Hmm... Which of knowledge or ignorance would better foster happiness? Does it depend on one's personality?

    Sorry for all these questions. Wishing you a happy holiday and joy. :)
    Only similar by function semantics, but not 100%. The types of Jung weren't described with a j/p dichotomy.
    There is so much to learn and explore... I suppose I best get started.I have no desire or reason to be depressed in this state of mind. And even some sense of meaning seems to permeate my existence.

    EDIT: The above is likely a delusion brought about by some temporal association.
    The approach I am taking is a Jungian one as I do not agree with MBTI's semantics of the functions.
    Oh, yes I have. I've been digesting the information, which is never an easy process for me, especially with such a great amount of content.

    What I will say though, beforehand, is that I noticed a difference in approach to information than most others. I, myself, tend to present information in a way that can be described as "this is true, and I am always right unless proven false". I have identified this as external thinking because the information is treated objectively. This method usually comes off as blunt and unemotional. I noticed both you and Words converse in a similar way of careful dissection and analysis. I am inclined to believe this is introverted thinking. If this is true, then it is possible that your type is one of the following: IxTJ, ExTP, ExFJ, and IxFP, most likely INFP, ISTJ or INTJ.
    A Fallacy:

    1. One associates some entity with some descriptor.
    2. One then associates an opposite entity with an opposite descriptor.

    This is dangerous. Associations are dangerous.
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