torture

[Montresor]

would knowing somebody's mbti type be beneficial to a person administering torture?

just a thought.

 

[GodOfOrder]

Well if they are NT they might find the situation slightly funny. it may take the rack or something more drastic.

If they are an F just show them a sad picture and save your time, you don't even need the water boarding.

 

[Solitaire U.]

Sorry, but I'm going to call this a very very stupid thought.

A torturer only needs to know how to administer severe pain to be effective at his task. That's as complex as it ever has to get.

 

[Chad]

This is the problem. Why are you implementing torture? I don't mean morally or value wise. What I mean is what do you wish the torture to accomplish? This is a very important question and the answer my actually effect my response to your question.

Torture has many uses and some of them may be benefited by having a better understand of a person.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Sorry, but I'm going to call this a very very stupid thought.

A torturer only needs to know how to administer severe pain to be effective at his task. That's as complex as it gets.

You don't know much about torture. The prefered method depends on what you want to get out of the victim.

 

[Chad]

You don't know much about torture. The prefered method depends on what you want to get out of the victim.

+1

 

[Coolydudey]

The psychological manipulation that goes with the torture could be changed in accordance with type.

 

[Cognisant]

You don't know much about torture. The prefered method depends on what you want to get out of the victim.

That.

I suppose isolation would be less effective on an introvert and sensory deprivation would be less effective on an NT, but they'd still work eventually, so I guess my point is that knowing somebody's type would only be a minor factor, one so minor as to likely be of little use to an inexperienced torturer (who wouldn't be skilled enough to make use of the knowledge) and irrelevant to an experienced torturer (who would be skilled enough to get what they want out of the person anyway) not that I know what I'm talking about or anything.

Likewise would a blacksmith benefit from knowing botany or carpentry?
Perhaps certain kinds of wood burn better than others, but the difference would be too small for an inexperienced smith to notice and irrelevant to an experienced smith who can get a hotter fire using blowers.

 

[H1N1]

Physical pain and human response have not a thing to do with personality.

 

[Chad]

Physical pain and human response have not a thing to do with personality.

Yes, but torture is more than just physical pain. Emotional or physiological pain tolerances could be estimated based off knowing person information about the person. There personality type would be one of these but not the only one to consider.

 

[H1N1]

Yes, but torture is more than just physical pain. Emotional or physiological pain tolerances could be estimated based off knowing person information about the person. There personality type would be one of these but not the only one to consider.

I am aware that torture is more than just physical pain.

It is incredibly unlikely that in situations of torture one is going to take the time to discover the personality type of another in order to orchestrate torture in the most efficient manner according to their mbti type. I do agree that other personal information could be used in order to orchestrate physiological torture. Though I haven't done research I believe most forms of torture involve some form of physical pain though more and more physiologically torture is gaining popularity because humans are sick.

 

[Chad]

Psychological torture isn't always sick and it more effect than physical torture.

Its also legal this is why police use these technicians to make criminals (and non criminals at time) crack. Psychological torture is about finding some one mental weaknesses and threatening these if the person doesn't corporate. For the police Prison is one of there most common tactics because people honestly believe that police can look them up for no reason.

Yes, they normally don't spend a lot of time trying to figure out someone personality type but it could still prove useful if it was done that is the idea.

And as far as someone how was trying to use Psychological torture for a sick reason they may not actually take the time to learn something about there pray before implementing there torture. The sad thing is in cases like this the only thing you can lock these guys up for is false imprisonment (which is normally needed for an extended mental torture) Sadly playing games with someone mind isn't against the law as long as you don't physically harm them or cause something else to physically harm them.

 

[Solitaire U.]

You don't know much about torture.

Is it that obvious? I should be ashamed.

The prefered method depends on what you want to get out of the victim.

So there's actually like a textbook or something. Do elaborate!

 

[BigApplePi]

I've read 2 or 3 books on the subject and I hesitate to give you their names. There is torture light and torture heavy. Military from different cultures will use it. Torture light is when you will eventually release the prisoner and don't want to show too much physical damage. Torture heavy is when you don't care.

Psychology matters. Time matters to get information. I'll give you an example. Persons of a family were selected one-by-one. Each died refusing to acquiesce to the wishes of the person in power. They didn't talk because other family members cheered them on not to. It was bad technique.

In general reading about it was nasty stuff. Man's cruelty to man knows no bounds when in isolation.

 

[Adrift]

I would think knowing any psychological background of said subject would be beneficial. Some others have said, though, that it likely matters on what the end goal is.

 

[Montresor]

Wow such variety in responses. :smiley_emoticons_mrHappy me.

Anyways, yes it was somewhat of a stupid thought - I'll start there. So what's the problem with putting stupid ideas on the internet again?

Human cruelty knows no bounds - whoever said that is dead on. Ah yes, it was BAP.

To elaborate on "knowing somebody's MBTI type" - I was sort of thinking that a potential torturer might spend time manipulating the victim into befriending them first, before actually acquiring and retaining their physical body for abuse.

Things like white noise, loud noise, sleep deprivation ... might be effective on Se-doms?

Sometimes in movies about torture they show the victims being forced to swallow something terrible (like how my girlfriend is sometimes forced to swallow something terrible), and I would imagine that type of treatment would have way more of an effect on some people than it would on others. Of course I couldn't qualitatively state what type of people would be affected (until recently MBTI was in the very back of my brain, being forgotten rotten for good), but I suspect now that Si leads (ISFJ) would be the most affected by this type of treatment.

Psychological torture is about finding some one mental weaknesses and threatening these if the person doesn't corporate.

Excellent. I believe this statement strongly supports my stupid idea.




Bonus question: what type would be the hardest to torture? ESTJ because you would just want it to end quickly.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Psychological torture is about finding some one mental weaknesses and threatening these if the person doesn't corporate.

Excellent. I believe this statement strongly supports my stupid idea.

It would if MBTI was a theory of psychology and cognition, but it just deals with personality and behavior; it doesn't prescribe psychological weaknesses to types. What you'd be doing in trying to apply this is using inaccurate, superficial stereotypes against people causing at most bewilderment and annoyance which would only be due to the obsessive nature of trying to torture someone in the first place.

 

[Montresor]

That's pretty concrete for an N. I can see you are unable to accept the fact that MBTI implies psychological weaknesses in some types.

If I had to torture an INTP I'd make them watch Friends on really loud volume. Or maybe just the intro.

"your job's a joke, you're broke" clap clap clap clap

haha

No but really I see where you're coming from. I'm ready to drop it.