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Is it an ISTP reaction to tell you to "Leave you're not helping" when something breaks or goes wrong?

I want to help fix it, but I get the impression he really doesn't want me there.

My reaction in this case would be to try a lot of different methods to clean up the mess.
 

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Yeah that does seem like something I'd want to say in such a situation, although I'd probably be a bit more diplomatic about it.

I'd want to go it alone either because I need to prove to myself that I don't need any help or because I feel that you're really not helping and it's beginning to annoy me.

I wouldn't take it personally, even though you mean well it's an ISTP thing to just want to figure it out alone without any interruptions.

Could you give me a few more details on exactly what it is that's gone wrong?
 

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Our water heater is broken. I didn't hear it, I just noticed my bathtub faucet was leaking. But it's a really old house and a really old bathroom, so sometimes it does that. My bro came home and went down stairs and was all angry about the water heater and asked how I couldn't hear it. He lives downstairs, I didn't notice it. It flooded like two rooms.

He's pretty mad at the damn thing. I tried to help and asked if there was anything we could try to soak up the water with. I wondered if the vacuum cleaner I have could suck up the water. It's an upright type that doesn't take bags. But he said no, to leave and tried to soak it up with towels.

Anyway, I know he's not mad at me. It's just annoying when we can't think of another way to take care of it and I can't do anything about it.

I feel kind of bad, because I think maybe I did hear it, but I ignored it as a background noise. Sometimes I'll let the faucets upstairs leak for a long time before I suddenly seem to realize they're leaking.
 

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I'd usually be willing to listen to viable solutions when something has broken. It sounds more like he's in a bad mood and the broken water heater is only the catalyst.

I doubt he'll be willing to listen to you the way he's acting. All you can really do in that situation is just leave him be and let him work through it by himself. ISTPs have a lot of anger issues and whenever we let our anger get to us we need to direct it at something.

Sorry I don't have any better advice but you're just going to have to let it rest. I doubt he blames you so don't blame yourself, just learn from it.
 

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It's fine. It's nice to know how he thinks and that I can keep my distance.

He had anger issues as a kid. I guess it definitely confirms that he's a ISTP. But then sometimes I wonder... He breaks into silliness and just says absurd things. Like "What if I did this or this suddenly happen?" He seems to have a sense of humor and will just say funny things. He can also write really well, even though he doesn't care to.

Is that normal?

It's like ... ISTP can and may break into random dance when with people really close to them... (Or the ones who actually know how to dance and they try to make me do it...)
 

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Ha, yeah he's definitely an ISTP, we're a pretty strange breed. We can be incredibly intense one second and then turn into a bag of random silliness the next. It's only with the people we know very well, with strangers we easily come off as ISTJs.
 

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I know there are no Js in my family. That's the only way I would know.

My bro and dad and one of my friends are ISTPs then. The way I tell is if they can stand my random behavior. There are organized ISTPs, my friend was one of them. But she didn't mind super randomness, we had so much fun together.

My brother isn't really into sports or anything though, he's a huge gamer, which I hear is very ISTP. So I have to assume that all that "would be" sportiness has transferred into gaming?

He also loves wolves, which strikes me as another INTP trait apparently? Then again, my dad has a lot of P, he doesn't seem to have a favorite anything...
 

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this sounds like something they'd say. Independent with the Ti, bad emotional control with the Fe, and pertaining to a physical situation...

I'd think it'd be analogous to "leave me alone, I'll figure it out on my own. Just gimme a few minutes"--which I at least think quite often.
 

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This happens a lot with my brother (istp) and I (intp). Whenever he tells me to leave him be, I just listen. He probably won't get mad at you for obeying him. I know you want to help and you probably feel bad but you don't want to prove him right by messing up and making things worse. When my brother actually needs help, he will ask me for it.
 

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He had anger issues as a kid. I guess it definitely confirms that he's a ISTP. But then sometimes I wonder... He breaks into silliness and just says absurd things. Like "What if I did this or this suddenly happen?" He seems to have a sense of humor and will just say funny things. He can also write really well, even though he doesn't care to.

Is that normal?

It's like ... ISTP can and may break into random dance when with people really close to them... (Or the ones who actually know how to dance and they try to make me do it...)
I think this describes me pretty well, except for the dancing part. I hate dancing. Almost makes me wonder if I'm ISTP? Probably not though, I suck at anything physical without alot of practice. I'd imagine that ISTPs adapt to new physical activities much quicker.

I think his reaction is more of an introvert thing than anything else. Although an INTP would probably be more open to your ideas than he was. Se, unlike Ne, doesn't want brainstorming, it wants action.
 

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I always wondered if my bro was actually an ISTP, because he doesn't really get into sports or activities. His behavior, otherwise, suggests that he is an ISTP.

"Being into physical activity" is kind of like having to be "Emotional" to an F. I'm thinking it's probably a little over emphasized. Especially as I think of the people I know to be ISTPs.

My family has a lot of Perceiving. No one in my immediate family has a J. No one in my family, as far as I can figure, has an F either. So... a bunch of TPs. I'm probably the only NT and my mom's probably the only E.

(the carpet it probably ruined)
 
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