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Id, ego and super-ego

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own8ge

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So why should we be bothered?

It's interesting, long, and doesn't have much to do with MBTI.

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I didn't really read it myself though. I'm too lazy
So why should we be bothered?
^This.

Normally when a thread is made, we expect the OP to carry on a discussion unless the title is in the form of a question. What's the point?



Recently you've been making a bunch of threads about different aspects of psychology and typology... Why not combine them all into a single blog-like thread that includes your current ideas as well as areas of interest? I think you're trying to build a system, and I also think you might be on a bit of a flight of ideas, and such a thread would help keep track of everything and make it easier for everyone else to follow along. I did the same with "THD's Compendium."

Let me know and I'll merge any of your threads you want into a single one (your choice of title).
 

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I think Jung has a better model that Freud.

http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/jung.html
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I considered this rather interesting and it might enhance your understanding of MBTI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego_and_super-ego

I didn't really read it myself though. I'm too lazy, I can't be bothered with "objective-education".
Sure. Use it on the MBTI. One can take ANY model and take a look at what the correspondences are. One could match up the ego with consciousness ... the four main cognitive functions. The id and superego with unconscious ones.
 

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^This.

Normally when a thread is made, we expect the OP to carry on a discussion unless the title is in the form of a question. What's the point?

I understood the concept by merely reading the few sentences. I knew it would be an interesting article. And so I thought, "this is really nice material! Very intelligent. I must acknowledge this. People may really find it interesting, and if I wouldn't share it, it would be very mean of me not to share it which only takes me 10 seconds to do. But hey! I must include my reason for posting it. Because I can't really go in debate with people as I'm not going to read it all. They whom think the subject is interesting, should lurk themselves. I shouldn't have to lurk for them. But they have to know this, so they won't be thinking that they can lurk from me and so that they won't spend hours trying to figure out thoughts about how they can ask an intelligent question to me to lurk from me whilst I myself don't even know anything about the subject at hand. That would be a total waste of time! I must include that sentence! And of course I must post this in a new thread. Otherwise the people whom may find it interesting may not notice this post, and that would be a waste for the social organization. At all times I must be helpful to the social organization I live on. Otherwise I wouldn't have the ability to think. Everything I think is an effect of the social organization. You can't think outside that box. And so, everything you think is merely good or bad for the social organization. + or -. In some perspectives this will be +. But in other perspectives it will be -. That is what we speculate about when we think. We choose a perspective and analyze the - and + within that perspective. Trying to get as many +, in order to form thoughts that apply to reality (objectivity). So the way I thought is completely objective and honest. I was doing my best to that I am capable off." I'm sorry thought that this post didn't get received as I had intended. This must be my stupidity. My thought apparently had to many -, resulting to not get interpreted as I understood it, so basically my thoughts were based on wrong reality. Stupidity.

I'm sorry to be so stupid. I will make a thread, called Own8ge Dump. Where I will limit myself to only post in that thread. I mean... I can't spread my stupidity onto others. That would be selfish. If I don't make sense, then I could better spend my time posting in 1 thread only so that I do not impact to many people with my stupidity. It makes me sad though. It does.
 

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great, there might be some 0.3 people here who don't know about freud.
 

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I understood the concept by merely reading the few sentences. I knew it would be an interesting article. And so I thought, "this is really nice material! Very intelligent. I must acknowledge this. People may really find it interesting, and if I wouldn't share it, it would be very mean of me not to share it which only takes me 10 seconds to do. But hey! I must include my reason for posting it. Because I can't really go in debate with people as I'm not going to read it all. They whom think the subject is interesting, should lurk themselves. I shouldn't have to lurk for them. But they have to know this, so they won't be thinking that they can lurk from me and so that they won't spend hours trying to figure out thoughts about how they can ask an intelligent question to me to lurk from me whilst I myself don't even know anything about the subject at hand. That would be a total waste of time! I must include that sentence! And of course I must post this in a new thread. Otherwise the people whom may find it interesting may not notice this post, and that would be a waste for the social organization. At all times I must be helpful to the social organization I live on. Otherwise I wouldn't have the ability to think. Everything I think is an effect of the social organization. You can't think outside that box. And so, everything you think is merely good or bad for the social organization. + or -. In some perspectives this will be +. But in other perspectives it will be -. That is what we speculate about when we think. We choose a perspective and analyze the - and + within that perspective. Trying to get as many +, in order to form thoughts that apply to reality (objectivity). So the way I thought is completely objective and honest. I was doing my best to that I am capable off." I'm sorry thought that this post didn't get received as I had intended. This must be my stupidity. My thought apparently had to many -, resulting to not get interpreted as I understood it, so basically my thoughts were based on wrong reality. Stupidity.

I'm sorry to be so stupid. I will make a thread, called Own8ge Dump. Where I will limit myself to only post in that thread. I mean... I can't spread my stupidity onto others. That would be selfish. If I don't make sense, then I could better spend my time posting in 1 thread only so that I do not impact to many people with my stupidity. It makes me sad though. It does.

Own8ge, genuine sympathy if you feel hurt by the reaction at all, but I feel this is a overreaction.

I doubt THD intended to imply you're "stupid" or anything like that. THD has his own thread as he said, I do to; Lyra had his own thread more recently, who I am under the impression is someone you have admired, and is certainly not a stupid person.

It's not about the quality of posts, for your recent threads evidence that a lot of thinking has gone into them (this one excluded, in frankness), but a question of where they might best prosper.

Where someone uses a blog thread it's done simply to make things easier for readers and for the poster; it means thoughts are in a single space to be more easily navigated. If I want to refer to something I've said previously all I have to do is suggest someone scrolls up to a prior post. Like THD said, it feels like you're trying to build your own system with related strands. I am to but in a different area, that's why I've grouped all those posts under my own thread in the blog section.

That said, it was a suggestion, and if you don't feel that's what you're trying to do, fine. But I don't appreciate you exploding every time you construe something someone has said as a criticism. If there is anything you want to say to this, please PM me or thehabitatdoctor (who I am sure will get in contact with you anyway). But I am closing this thread for now, as I don't feel it's going to go anywhere constructive.
 
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If I don't make sense, then I could better spend my time posting in 1 thread only so that I do not impact to many people with my stupidity. It makes me sad though. It does.
Dude, everything's cool. If it wasn't I'd have banned you already :D

To me, it seems like you're discovering new things all the time and adapting your own system and beliefs as you learn them. I understand the urge to get it out there, but it's hard for us to follow along because it makes sense in your head but we can't keep track of the sequence of thoughts that led to which conclusions. We can't see inside your head (at least not yet). :twisteddevil:

I experienced the same thing a few months back while thinking about my thesis research (agent-based mechanisms of invasional meltdown that explain lags in reproduction, dispersal, and occupancy in populations of non-native species, if you're curious :D). Ideas popped into my head too fast and it was mindfuck after mindfuck after mindfuck. I didn't sleep for days. I was bouncing off the walls lmfao. No one I talked to the entire time understood me, but I kept it all written down (on sheets of paper covering the entire kitchen table, and with dry erase markers on a whiteboard, 2 glass sliding doors, 4 windows, and a microwave). Once I had everything organized so that people could see A through Z in order, I took it to my advisor and he couldn't believe it (and actually suggested I pursue a multi-million dollar grant based on the idea).

We're really just asking you to keep everything that's related in its own thread so: 1) it's easier for us to follow and 2) it's easier for you to keep track of. Personally I'd like to contribute because this sort of stuff excites me (it's a system!!!), but I'm having trouble and I'm sure others are as well. We want you to share it, but we also want to understand it. I think a blog thread would make it easier. (You don't have to post EVERYTHING in the same thread, just everything you think is related. This is why I said any threads of your choice and that I could make it any title you wanted).

When you first came here, you were a bit of a jerk, but over the past few months you've developed and changed a lot. This hasn't gone unnoticed by the mods and admin, and we want you to keep going and keep improving. We want you to become a respected member here, because WE KNOW YOU CAN. :eek: You have that potential.

Having said that, if you're unsure of what something I or any mod means, just ask us. A big part of your personality is understanding and taking action based on your gut emotions, but remember that a lot of us are socially inept (not ALL of us :angel:) and that there's a small language barrier between us, both of which can throw things off. We might mean "X" when we say something but you think we said "Y" instead, so double check to make sure.

Just let me know what you think of the idea. You might want to try it out and see if it works for you.
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