I need to know my type please help

[meanbluepanda]

I hate to copy lonewolf's post but I've been thinking about this for quite some time, and recently decided to write it.
Now I've extensively thought about what to write about myself to help you guys type me, aaaand I came up blank there's nothing I find special about myself or that stands out. Mainly am introverted and logical, I've taken 3 tests 2 came out INTP and 1 ISTP. You can ask whatever you want and I'll answer to the best of my ability, you can also reference my previous posts for info:
- http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=20650
-http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=20651
-http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=20635
-http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=20092
-http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=19280
-http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=19255

Some of the things I say in those posts I regret but oh well, also don't feel compelled to help me DO IT ONLY IF YOU WANT TO
Also thanks in advance and sorry for the trouble

 

[Pizzabeak]

XXXP

 

[Oddity]

How well do you relate to these descriptions?

http://www.intp.org/intprofile.html
http://edgeoforder.org/PUMintp.html
http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html
http://www.personalitypage.com/html/INTP_per.html
http://www.16personalities.com/intp-strengths-and-weaknesses

 

[meanbluepanda]

How well do you relate to these descriptions?

http://www.intp.org/intprofile.html
http://edgeoforder.org/PUMintp.html
http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html
http://www.personalitypage.com/html/INTP_per.html
http://www.16personalities.com/intp-strengths-and-weaknesses

It's almost 50% of the stuff there I do/relate to but other things I don't. For example I don't analyze the shit out of everything. I like to do what I theorize to see how and if it works, am not content with the theory itself. I can "detect contradictions in statements no matter how distant in space or time the contradictory statements were produced". And so on, that's why am confused its almost like bits and pieces of both personalities.

 

[own8ge]

> I need to know

Explain that please. And please be brief.

 

[Oddity]

It's almost 50% of the stuff there I do/relate to but other things I don't. For example I don't analyze the shit out of everything. I like to do what I theorize to see how and if it works, am not content with the theory itself. I can "detect contradictions in statements no matter how distant in space or time the contradictory statements were produced". And so on, that's why am confused its almost like bits and pieces of both personalities.

http://personalityjunkie.com/04/introverted-thinking-ti-intp-vs-intj-extraverted-thinking/

 

[meanbluepanda]

> I need to know

Explain that please. And please be brief.

the fact that i dont know what my personality is means that i dont know why i do stuff when i think why i do stuff sometimes.
it kinda also cant be explained i just feel the need to know and i keep thinking about it because i dont know so its kinda driving me crazy

 

[meanbluepanda]

http://personalityjunkie.com/04/introverted-thinking-ti-intp-vs-intj-extraverted-thinking/

I don't think am decisive and well thought out enough to be an INTJ

 

[Brontosaurie]

how do you feel about ENTP and ESTP?

extraversion in cognitive functions theory is not the same as common sense extraversion. ENTP in particular is supposedly prone to an introverted lifestyle.

this post strikes me as ENTP:

the fact that i dont know what my personality is means that i dont know why i do stuff when i think why i do stuff sometimes.
it kinda also cant be explained i just feel the need to know and i keep thinking about it because i dont know so its kinda driving me crazy

and i think you might see why if you read some good type description. avoid the formulaic ego-flattering ones and try to find something more in-depth.

 

[RaBind]

Read the Ask Architect thread. Apart from all the other interesting stuff that's on there, reading other people's opinions and explanations helped me make a lot more sense of the cognitive functions, then I would've cared to do so by myself.

 

[meanbluepanda]

I think I'll monitor myself and what I do and get back to you and will also do some more research

 

[meanbluepanda]

Well I am extremely selfish, and basically don't give a shit about anyone else.
I am very shy and can barely talk to strangers, but very weird with people am comfortable with. Weird I mean I do some pretty random ass stuff that makes no sense.
This should be a given but I don't like spending time with people and spent most of my time in my room.
If someone am comfortable with says or does something that is illogical, I get instantly mad, and feel the need to point out their mistake and call the stupid. If the person who commited the mistake is a stranger or someone am not comfortable with I just let it slide.

 

[Jennywocky]

I am very shy and can barely talk to strangers, but very weird with people am comfortable with. Weird I mean I do some pretty random ass stuff that makes no sense.

If someone am comfortable with says or does something that is illogical, I get instantly mad, and feel the need to point out their mistake and call the stupid. If the person who commited the mistake is a stranger or someone am not comfortable with I just let it slide.

Those two points are related:

- If you know someone well enough that you can trust them and gauge their responses ahead of time, you feel free to be yourself and don't filter/manage your behavior around them.

- If they are strangers and could flip out or take it all wrong, you just wear the polite mask or let things go, to avoid potential conflict.

This should be a given but I don't like spending time with people and spent most of my time in my room.

Large need for space and not wanting to deal with the restrictions involved in relating, or at least the uncertainty, the energy investment, etc. Your time and energy is your own, and you can pursue your own interests as they come up.

Well I am extremely selfish, and basically don't give a shit about anyone else.

Not sure what that means, unless it's tied to the prior point. I mean, if someone got hit by a bus in front of you, would you care or would you leave them to bleed in the street and go buy ice cream instead because you were hungry at the time?

But I take it to mean, "Focused on your own concerns and prioritize them, versus others' concerns; and not interested in rearranging your schedule or time."

 

[Red myst]

Well I am extremely selfish, and basically don't give a shit about anyone else.
I am very shy and can barely talk to strangers, but very weird with people am comfortable with. Weird I mean I do some pretty random ass stuff that makes no sense.
This should be a given but I don't like spending time with people and spent most of my time in my room.
If someone am comfortable with says or does something that is illogical, I get instantly mad, and feel the need to point out their mistake and call the stupid. If the person who commited the mistake is a stranger or someone am not comfortable with I just let it slide.

INTP's inferior function is Fe. While least developed, it is usually warm but childlike. What you describe is cold and indiffrent which could be Fi. Fi even in the dominant position is cold like that on the outside. Unlike dominant Fe. You could be INFP. check it out. spacifically, compare the differances between Fe and Fi. Use as many sources as you can find to bounce the comparasons against. I myself may be INFP. You could also be a TJ which would still put Fi in your function stack.

 

[meanbluepanda]

Not sure what that means, unless it's tied to the prior point. I mean, if someone got hit by a bus in front of you, would you care or would you leave them to bleed in the street and go buy ice cream instead because you were hungry at the time?

What I mainly mean here is I don't miss anyone even if am always with them when their around. Basically if I get close enough to people, when they are around I may feel something towards them, but the second they're gone the emotion dissipates as well. Let's take your hypothetical, if someone were to get hit in front of me I wouldn't get sad shocked or feel bad for them. I would go to them try and help, call the police, and stick around if needed.

 

[Jennywocky]

What I mainly mean here is I don't miss anyone even if am always with them when their around. Basically if I get close enough to people, when they are around I may feel something towards them, but the second they're gone the emotion dissipates as well.

Okay, that makes sense to me. I don't know if I'd summarize it as "not caring," but I experience this to some degree myself -- it's like "proximity-based" relationships and for me it's related to energy expenditure as well.

I have some friendships too in my past where I might not talk to the person for five years or more, because our paths went elsewhere, but as soon as I'm around them, we enjoy being with each other and it's like we were never apart aside from all the new stuff that has happened.

 

[meanbluepanda]

ALSO I can lie and manipulate people or even steal without feeling bad, but it's also not enjoyable to do. I only do the "wrong" thing when I have a goal in mind. The reason I put wrong in quotations is because I don't view it as wrong, but as just another means to an end.

 

[Jennywocky]

... all of which sounds more amoral or "pragmatic ethics" to me. You don't want to hurt people or do wrong, you just have your goals and don't let constructed social systems / social dictates on morality guide what you think is the most pragmatic way to approach something?

 

[meanbluepanda]

... all of which sounds more amoral or "pragmatic ethics" to me. You don't want to hurt people or do wrong, you just have your goals and don't let constructed social systems / social dictates on morality guide what you think is the most pragmatic way to approach something?

Yah that's about it.
SO...after all this what do you guys think?
Honestly after reading the types suggested here, INTP is still the one that fits me the most but not completely. I still don't think am an INTP but it's the closest type to me so far.

 

[Oddity]

ALSO I can lie and manipulate people or even steal without feeling bad, but it's also not enjoyable to do. I only do the "wrong" thing when I have a goal in mind. The reason I put wrong in quotations is because I don't view it as wrong, but as just another means to an end.

Sounds very Te-Fi to me. I vote INTJ.

 

[StevenM]

You seem to roll with the punches pretty good. I'm guessing P.
Don't get to be yourself much? I'm guessin I.
When you finally get to be yourself, your weird and zany? I'm guessing you finally get to let Ne breathe.

You seem a little bit impersonal and detached to me. I'm getting INTP.

 

[meanbluepanda]

I have taken 2 other personality tests 1 showed INTP, the other INTJ.
Afterwards I took and INTJ or INTP test and it showed 59% INTJ and 41% INTP.

After reading a couple of INTJ personality descriptions, I think I am an INTJ. Even though I don't consciously think of some of the stuff an INTJ thinks of, after thinking about it I believe that my subconscious has thought this way and come to certain conclusions. Which explain some of the actions I take. I will still research this some more, and any extra input would still be helpful.

Correction: I can turn it off if whats happening around me is boring or uninteresting, and I need to work on something or imagine a possibility.

Extra: For me to understand something I need to visualize it, just reading or hearing about it isn't enough. Visual aid is preferred otherwise my imagination would most likely suffice.

 

[B.C.P.]

There's in inordinate amount of introspection going on in your head, as well as a large degree of concern over your identity and personal judgments. You're definitely introverted.

Your inability to pay attention at times, jumping around and connecting topics then forgetting what you were talking about, as well as defending the people your mother and sister make hasty judgments about seems Ne/Fe to me. Despite evidence of Fi, I don't think lying or disliking children is exclusively a Te/Fi trait.

You mention being able to "turn off whats happening around me" and "work on something or imagine a possibility." Ti is capable of great focus, especially in the dominant position. In addition it drives us to constantly be engaged or focused in our work. If it is experienced almost compulsively, or if it is the cause of you suddenly losing interest in what you're doing, then that seems like dominant Ti.

You could be an INTJ, but you don't seem as inwardly-relaxed in your descriptions of yourself, like INTJ's supposedly are (I'm not one so I don't know). INTP's are very serious on the inside, critical of themselves and others. If I were you I wouldn't rule out INTP just yet.

 

[meanbluepanda]

You could be an INTJ, but you don't seem as inwardly-relaxed in your descriptions of yourself, like INTJ's supposedly are (I'm not one so I don't know). INTP's are very serious on the inside, critical of themselves and others. If I were you I wouldn't rule out INTP just yet.

I definitely didn't rule out INTP but leaning more towards INTJ, it's so hard to decide though because it's almost like I fit half of the traits of each type.

I was leaning towards INTJ, but your post has made me go back to 50%. I really can't decide, and I don't know enough about myself or more accurately. I don't have enough real life experience to decide what I would really do in a presented hypothetical situation(because am still 16). As a result I can't accurately weigh the options and make a clear decision without having doubt.

Your inability to pay attention at times, jumping around and connecting topics then forgetting what you were talking about

Where did you get this idea, when I try to say something to someone. I ALWAYS spend forever formulating my answer. I think I do this because I am afraid if I say something wrong people will think am stupid. I never talk while thinking(my mom is the only person I do this with), for example in class I spend so much time formulating my answer, that it's most likely too late for me to answer. This more often than not makes people think I don't understand, since I end up just starring back in my head trying to come up with the perfect answer.

PS: I also changed this post about 9 times so far, since english isn't my first language.

 

[B.C.P.]

"Although my my train of thought had lead me from point A to C, and it made complete sense how the 2 are connected at the moment . What's even weirder about it is that when I snap out of thinking, I can't remember the original topic nor the last one."

I read your post about losing interest and later on my recall was incorrect. I apologize.

It will be difficult to figure this out at your age, but because you're most likely an NT it will bother you until you figure it out. That's both good and bad, as you'll eventually figure it out but become obsessed in the process. Along the way, however, you'll learn a lot about other people. As a young NT that can be valuable knowledge.

 

[meanbluepanda]

This is so frustrating I can't decide.

Side note: My mind frustrates me sometime. I used to LOVE naruto but now I think about everything logically. Which has caused me to stop watching it because it makes no sense. It's like I want to like it but my brain won't let me...

Some more info, I almost always try to figure out why I am thinking a certain way.
I am a perfectionist if it's something I care about, otherwise I just do enough to get by eg. school. I don't care what people think of me as long as it's not stupid. When in class I answer questions in a low voice to myself, which means I don't care if people know that am right/smart it's good enough for me to know I was right, or that my logic was correct.

I have done some research into INTJ, and saw that I fit INTP more. I still have that doubt in my mind though and it's driving me crazy.

EDIT: I can also be a great teacher when I try to explain something.

 

[Red myst]

How about looking at it from an IP vs IJ distinction. Check this out for a resource. http://personalityjunkie.com/03/judging-perceiving-ijs-ips/
The thing I am mostly sure of it that I am IP. Also, if you are hopping around the web looking at different descriptions from different sources, it will drive you mad. Pick 1 or 2 that you find credible and stick with them. I like personality junkie.

 

[B.C.P.]

I also vouch for Personality Junkie. Drenth's new book "My True Type" really cleared some stuff up for me. I still have my "maybe I'm not an INTP" moments, but I also know without a doubt I am an IP from his descriptions. If you are not an IP, your next most likely types are EJ's due to the dominant judging function. So, if you're a hard-ass and no-one seems to notice, you're probably an IP

 

[meanbluepanda]

More info:
- I like to have a system when doing most things.
- I don't like to take the lead unless something is being done infuriatingly wrong(NEW DISCOVERY).
- I talk very passionately, and am pretty sure you can tell how am feeling.
- I like to set up a plan which allows me to get a fair result and that no-one can object to.(because am doing a voting thing right now).
- Whenever I think of anything I imagine it. What I mean by that is let's say am thinking about what am gonna say to someone, I imagine me and him standing in front of each other doing hand gestures and moving our mouths. Basically I have to use my imagination to imagine the physical aspect.