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Well alrighty.

Instead of slogging through this entire thread, so are you saying that introverts are the ones in the background that oil the machine of economy and science and technological advancements? If so, I wouldn't disagree. And what, introverts are becoming pressured to be extroverts, thus...

I have a few ENTP friends, and they know when their wrong. I can definitely say I do, and not ashamed whatsoever at admitting it. In fact, I'm very often wrong. Other ENTPs I know are extremely open minded. The reason they may seem more stubborn, or even dense, is that very often, because...

No, we are :D But honestly, I don't know if this is a belief amongst INTPs, but ENTPs, while known for being little jokers, are also extremely reasonable.

Word to ya mutha. Plus generation X, and god help us even worse, generation Y are riding the coattails of our parents' hard earned success. So many spoiled brats and pampered upbringings (yes, I include myself in this). It's led to an almost epidemic level of lazies and self-entitled...

Yay!

That, is most certainly debatable. Philosophy without application is masturbation.

Heeard that. The stimulation of the mind is a drug, just like any other. You're checking a thread response, while your dirty clothes pile up. But, when you are a certain personality, whether it be INTP, ENTP, or any of the other types that have a higher dietary requirement for stimulating...

Uuumm, someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall reading about intelligence tests and THE IQ test tests SPECIFICALLY for what you are talking about: the ability to solve problems. SATs and ACTs, for example, are much more about knowledge. Some problem solving definitely, but if...

I'd have mad respect for that rat. ENTPs know they're right, until they're proved wrong, then they know they don't really care.

This is not bad at all. And I now feel I need a "not-sarcasm" addendum to such statements.

Whoa, whoa. I don't recall ever saying INTPs are the most egotistical. To even suggest that hurts my ego, as ENTPs are BY FAR the most arrogant. In my humble opinion. Btw, too many great posts to respond to them all, but I've been laughing my ass off.

I'm a little rough around the edges. So shall we end it right here? INTPs are NOT in fact, more prone to have their egos more invested in arguments? Truth is, I can't answer that. But I'll believe what you tell me if you believe it's honest. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hahaha, I suppose we do, me especially, come off as "trolly" though it is RARELY if ever, the case. And I'm NOT pushing it. I was curious. Ya see, I'm ok with being wrong ;)

Concerning satisfaction during the argument, to quote Michael from Heat: Ya know, for me? The action IS the juice. And I do not fear being embarrassed, as I'm quite good at laughing at myself.

Like for some evidence, one common trait I HAVE noticed amongst INTPs is they really, REALLY, hate being called stupid, or more accurately, considered unintelligent. They told me so themselves, like at least 5 of 'em. Me? Call me stupid, I could give a shit. I know I'm not.

Well no, that's kind of my point. I feel that INTPs I know ARE more wrapped up in their ego concerning arguments. So let me rephrase, are INTPs' egos more wrapped up in an argument than an ENTP? Like you said, I personally don't give a fuck if I'm right or wrong either

Lol. You said it all.

Seems INTPs NEED to be right in an argument/discussion, whereas ENTPs, though they enjoy it, really don't care that much. Thoughts? Am I way off?

[while burning the Narrator's hand with lye] Tyler Durden: Shut up! Our fathers were our models for God. If our fathers bailed, what does that tell you about God? Narrator: No, no, I... don't... Tyler Durden: Listen to me! You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you. He...

But ultimately, my philosophy is that the meaning of life is to be happy, or content and at peace. And whenever you're in a position to do so, fulfill duties, such as taking care of a family or using whatever skills you have to improve whatever community you're in. SO as long as I am applying...

Is this the shout box? haha, seems like each forum is different. Well I don't think abstract thoughts have no merits. Very far from the truth. I just think it should be balanced with reality, the body. I've done a few 10 day hardcore meditation retreats where you don't talk the entire time...

Well I'm just feeling peeps out. And sarcasm is tricky to write. Thanks for me needlessly bearing a part of my soul. ;) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not to take away from your very real stress, but sounds like you still have plenty of time. It's good that you are thinking ahead. I've heard teaching in Japan is pretty awesome, but also that their cost of living is a lot more. Just my personal experience, I have about 10 friends that have...

Me? Freelance web designer, mobile site creator. Markets kinda shit here right now. I was making lots more money when I left 3 years ago. Truth is, networking in Arkansas mostly revolves around going to church, and although I'm not opposed, I just really like sleeping in on Sundays. I've...

BTW, what are you 20? 21? Christ kid, you have no idea how young that is. I'm 30, and yes, have travelled the world. But plan on doing MUCH more of it.

Is this what I'm doing? I can only speak for myself, but this is not typical behaviour for me. I am in a culturally desolate place at the moment, and rather isolated. Part of it is circumstantial, but most of it is self-imposed. But the result is that I resort to forums for my social...

Ok looks like you're from Singapore. How's your english? You can ABSOLUTELY, and it's surprisingly easy, teach English in many foreign countries. MANY, MANY of my friends do this, myself included. It's a wonderful way to travel and be independent. Many schools will hire you and fly you out...

We're just slightly more intelligent animals afterall. With, arguably,an overdeveloped capacity for abstract thought. This is NOT necessarily a good thing. And if not channeled, can result in all kinds of mental disorders, neuroses, psychoses, and so on.

See, "more abstract" is something I strive to stay away from. Living in one's head alone is not always a good idea. And let's just say for now that "personality" is the way someone behaves, interacts, observable habits and movements. After all that training (and sorry to keep using that as...

And the subject of personality changing. I agree, I don't think it ever really does. BUT I believe you can condition yourself to, at the very least, temporarily mutate your personality. For example, all that hardcore training, I wasn't working at the time so all I did was train for like 3...

So are you married? Family? Single? Online social interaction is still social interaction. My guess is that even the most introverted introvert would go just as insane as anyone else if they were in, say, solitary confinement in prison for long enough. Although, it may take longer.

But lately, this brutal winter, I've been a bit of a hermit and it is DEFINITELY against my nauture and has been pretty rough, mentally, physically, spiritually. And the ENTP definition of them needing lots of social stimulation has never been so acute. Obviously EVERY type needs social...

Yeah, all that makes sense. Except the Forer effect. Is that how astrology "works"? Like vague advice that can be personalized? I mean it doesn't take much to see certain traits of certain types being very consistent. ENTPs being quick witted, INFJs very intelligent, but sometimes you...

Ok cool, if I ever make it back out there (God, I hope so), I will remember that. Gun culture in the Philippines. I remember seeing a Vice documentary on that. How pretty much you have lots of gunsmiths that just make guns from spare parts using blueprints or whatever. It's pretty rampant...

Yeah, so true, they can make for poor conversationalists too, haha. I have a few buddies that, well our activities are relegated strictly to DOING shit together. BUT, as opposed to some of my more interesting friends, they are a lot more loyal and dependable.

I know not what you means. Haha, yeah I know. A lot of my friends are ESTPs, which may make some ENTPs cringe. They're a good influence cuz they get me outta the house. I like leaving my house, but I'm a bum. And honestly, a lot of the guys I shoot with (my buddy has a HUGE piece of land...

Exactly, agarian/hunting relationship involving riding dirt bikes, ATVs, shooting NATO specced assault rifles, glocks with 33 round clips, and bird watching. Really, haha. Well, minus the bird watching. I lived in Kaohsiung, Taiwan for like half a year, was pretty cool (other cities too) but...

Hermes eh? I like that.

Believe me, I'm the furthest fan from labels as you can get, BUT, I have yet to find one that fits me so completely. Every test I've ever taken: ENTP. There's been some ENFP and ENFJ leanings, but distant seconds. PLUS when I started talking to ENTPs online in such huge concentrations, it...

Haha, ok, hope you like hot sauce. Fine by me, as I am in love with myself (most of the time).

Awww, shucks. :o

Yeah, I've definitely always understood J and P being how your behavior appears to others, but I suppose that's just secondary. Anyway, back to being jerks or not jerks. I'm friendly as fuck.

Ok so, Ps generally take in more info, while Js, though they do take in info, they are more action and decision oriented in the external world?

Ok, I'm getting warmer. But I kind of thought the J(udging) and P(erceiving) was mostly how organized a person is or isn't with the rest of their personality. So you're saying you logically evaluate your external surroundings piecemeal, and then construct some kind of internal operating...

I'm from the dirty dirty south. R-Kansas to be exact. ENTP through and through. I'm proud of my redneck roots, but I been all over da world. Experience junkie, been there done that. I appear rough around the edges, but have kind eyes (when you get to know me). It's a self-defense...

(sidenote) ELI5, I'm an MBTI amateur at best, but as I understand it, primary function is the taking in of information and auxiliary is the processing of it. How does an INTP take in information from within? I realize I may be confused here.

Wow. You just described me to a T when it comes to initial interactions. I VERY often come off as an asshole, but it's far from the truth. It's more of a test, to see who can hang with me. I'm a little older (30) so I generally don't like wasting time finding new friends. And with this...

Chameleon in what way? Not social? I thought that was ENTPs or ENFPs.

Absolutely not. And anyone that says different is asking for a knuckle sandwich. I'm sarcastic to most, friendliest to the downtrodden, and the biggest jerk on the planet to major assholes.