'Aliens, UFO's & Spirituality'

[Stagename]

In the end, the video corroborates both theories: it is both proof of dust in front of a camera – and aliens who look like dust in front of a camera. One can either believe in one of them or remain agnostic to the whole thing.

(the fact that the evidence for a hypothesis is weak does not mean it is evidence against the hypothesis)

Agreed. The video does not prove that alien life does not exist as gigantic flying saucers

 

[Sinny91]

What Tan said. You are wasting my time Stagename.
I would explain why, but that would waste more of my time aha.

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[Stagename]

What Tan said. You are wasting my time Stagename.
I would explain why, but that would waste more of my time aha.

Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk

How to sustain narrow mindedness:
Regarding a challenge to your own ideas and understanding a "waste of your time".

 

[Sinny91]

What part of 'I'm not convincing anybody' do you not understand?
Make up your own mind. This sort of stuff goes hand in hand with self realisation and alternative perceptions. I cannot force either on you.
I implore you to explore the links and do your own research, the conclusions,or lack of, will leave you perplexed no doubt, that is the enigma.

 

[Sinny91]

Food for thought...

The late*Phil Dick, in his last Gnostic allegorical fiction, eventually settled on the name "V.A.L.I.S." or "Vast Active Living intelligence System" for this being or*Demiurge. He wrestled through his literary career and secret life as a Christian Gnostic philosopher with whether*VALIS*was a benevolent, if machine-like deity of a sort, or an insane extraterrestrial supercomputer.*

Throughout recorded history, and, from the evidence of primitive objects and works of art, for aeons before, certain humans have had the capacity to tune into or channel various of these Higher Intelligences with varying degrees of accuracy. These humans have been our*Seers*and*Prophets. It appears, in fact, that much of the source-material of all religions comes from such channelings, including, arguably, "The Book of RevelationThe Book of Mormon", and "The Book of the Law".*

Concurrently, and not coincidentally, the two great initiatory bodies, or orders have been generated and regenerated throughout history.*The so-called Great White Brotherhood, when undistorted, appears (according to legend) guided by Intelligences associated with the dual star system Sirius or Sothis in some manner [see "The Sirius Mystery" by*Robert Temple*for a discussion of the Sirius connection -- also*Kenneth Grant’s "Outside the Circles of Time" discusses the matter from a magical perspective].

This brotherhood also seems to have the purpose of uplifting human character and initiating biological and social evolution designed to move towards identification with Ultimate Being. What is sometimes called "the Black Lodge," which we may associate with the Gnostic Demiurge or Phil Dick’s*VALIS, is generated to keep humanity in a state of materialist trance and evolutionary stagnation.*

There are keys for decoding which is which -- for example, rituals that have been generated or handed down to the magical lodges of modern times which refer to a star or the stars directly or indirectly tend to be transformative and thus of the*Great White Brotherhood. Ciphers for decoding messages between the black lodges and their alien sponsors have always existed. But confusions of a deliberate nature exist; the ancient Gnostics uncovered a cipher which clearly indicates that the story of the Garden of Eden in its conventional form is turned on its head.

The Serpent is clearly the symbol of*KnowledgeWisdom, the*Kundalini Yogic force, the Will-current -- that is, it is the symbol of Liberation and Self-Mastery. The jealous "gods," as read in the original manuscripts, are clearly*the forces of blockage,*self-denial*and*repression*-- which is to say, the Intelligences governing the Black Lodge. This*Knowledge of Good and Evil and Life and Deathhas been the*Terrible Secret of Initiates*throughout history, recorded in ciphers and myths, and passed on through ritual.*

http://tausirhasirim.livejournal.com/115253.html

 

[Black Rose]

My sister said to me earlier today that when she was with her boyfriend in the pecan fields he is the security guard for that she looked through his binoculars and sees strange things happening. I need to go see for myself. I remember a guy on Coast to Coast AM radio who mentions that such phenomena is real and takes people to go see on a mountain in Montana or some other state. It is illegal to take night vision binoculars outside the USA he said.

Gnosticism is, as I had listened to others say, is a form of materialism. The Demiurge creates matter of this reality and your matter is put in this reality stolen from the divine realms. The soul is material in that case. The movie the matrix is Gnosticism but hinted at a higher reality of an immaterial soul. Data on a computer chip is immaterial and can travel from any one computer to another computer. What happens is that the data is changed by other data and or transforms giving the avatar certain abilities to control its subjective experience and other data forms / files. But this data is not ectoplasm.

Secrete societies have incomplete understandings of reality and are mostly just keepers of ancient rituals / historical texts. They value the secrets because the secrets are just sentimental relics of spiritual technology. You don't need 'their' symbols to utilize the technology. You just need to have greater self awareness and self control. It is fun to think of the symbols though. Math and science use symbols to manipulate the physical plane i.e. the ship propulsion systems.

 

[Analyzer]

Coast to Coast AM is best to listen to on long drives at night.

 

[Sinny91]

Secrete societies have incomplete understandings of reality and are mostly just keepers of ancient rituals / historical texts. They value the secrets because the secrets are just sentimental relics of spiritual technology. You don't need 'their' symbols to utilize the technology. You just need to have greater self awareness and self control. It is fun to think of the symbols though. Math and science use symbols to manipulate the physical plane i.e. the ship propulsion systems.

A guy I knew, The Matrix Traveller, would have said what you just said.
He fell out with a few of us and hasn't posted in almost a year.

I do wonder where and how you gain these insights Anime.

 

[nanook]

not sure where this goes but since we've been talking about nighmares

this is one of my favorites:

Spoiler

the artwork is like: your life has so little value, your death doesn't even deserve visual details or geometric accuracy.

and just to bring the thread back to the topic:

Spoiler

the artist appears to be james kerr

 

[Sinny91]

Before I forget:​

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2adODPSVvkc

could somebody here possibly translate this for me please?​

 

[Sinny91]

Bump - With the original footage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lDu7f36m-w

Would be amazing if someone could translate the commentary, the PRC team will be working on video analysis.

 

[Sinny91]

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[Sinny91]

Hillary Clinton: ‘I will reveal the truth about UFOs when I am President’

When, not if - eh?

It’s the moment conspiracy theorists have been waiting for – Hillary Clinton has vowed to reveal the truth about UFOs if she becomes President.

Ha, yea right. What about the other presidents, have they been lying then ?

The Democratic Presidential candidate vowed to ‘get to the bottom’ of UFO conspiracies – and reveal the truth behind Area 51 – if she is elected.

Black Ops. There, mystery solved - Do I get a gold star?

Up to 77% of Americans believe that there is evidence aliens have visited Earth, according to a 2014 Harris poll.

Up to 77% victims of Psy-Ops then..

Conspiracy theorists believe that the American government has contacted aliens – but has concealed the fact for decades.
Her campaign chairman, John Podesta, called for the release of UFO files, saying, ‘The American people can handle the truth.’

http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/04/hilla...truth-about-ufos-when-i-am-president-5599009/

It will be nothing but more LIES.

 

[Sinny91]

It has since then been suggested by CNN that Hillary was joking..

As some of you may briefly recall me mentioning prior; I created a facebook page a few years ago which was all about the 'UFO' phenomena, and it's extra-terrestrial origins. At the time I was under the belief that 'UFO's' did exist, they were being intelligently controlled, and that extra-terrestrial aliens just had to be the intelligences in control of the 'UFO's'

I'm cannot judge the time frame, but suffice it to say that it wasn't long until my beliefs started to drastically transform once more, and I found myself chasing new idea's and abandoning old ones...

Edittininingghsafghfvwy

(Post 1936)

Spoiler

Nazi Olympics 1936. Nazi Germany used the 1936 Olympic Games for propagandistic purposes. It promoted an image of a new, strong, and united Germany and masked its antisemitic and racist policies and its growing militarism.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005680

 

[Sinny91]

Hmm, I think this might actually be something like a Russian Cosmosphere or a result of the activity of such:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-new...social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

Defence officials in Vietnam are investigating the origin of three metal spheres which fell from the sky in the north of the country.
The largest object weighs about 45kg (99lb) and was found near a stream in Tuyen Quang province.



Another orb landed in local resident's garden in the neighbouring Yen Bai region, while the lightest, weighing 250g (9oz), came down on a nearby roof before rolling onto the ground, the website says. Local people reported hearing what sounded like thunder in the minutes before the objects were found.


An initial investigation by Vietnam's defence ministry has so far determined that the objects are compressed-air tanks from an aircraft or rocket, and that - at least now they're no longer airborne - they aren't dangerous. It says the orbs were manufactured in Russia, but that its not clear if they were subsequently sold to another country for use.


Aerospace expert Prof Nguyen Khoa Son thinks they could belong to an old satellite that failed to burn up in the Earth's atmosphere.

A fair few of these have been found across the globe.

 

[Sinny91]

Just wanted to share - I'll leave it here.​

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8dUQOaSmSE​

 

[Sinny91]

India says its fighter jets have ‘shot down a UFO’

The Indian Air Force has said that its fighter jets have shot down a UFO.
A Sukhoi Su-30 MKI fighter jet was dispatched to deal with a ‘balloon-shaped’ object seen over the northern state of Rajasthan on Tuesday.
A statement from the IAF said the ‘unidentified object’ was ‘intercepted and brought down’.
‘Between 10.30 and 11 am today an unidentified balloon-shaped object was picked up by the Indian Air Force (IAF) radar,’ it said in an official statement.

‘An IAF fighter was launched, which intercepted the object and brought it down. Materials have been retrieved and further investigation is ongoing.’
Scott C Waring of UFO Sightings Daily told Yahoo it ‘looked like a giant cloud orb’.
‘Sometimes if they are struck by lightning, they can malfunction and fall to the earth,’ he added.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/28/india...utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=Facebook

Hmm, well hearing the conclusion of this story should be fun.

I've since been informed that those metal sphere's falling to earth are all titanium fuel tanks .. Why so many are falling to earth remains to be seen, there are obviously more craft coming and going than those which we are made aware of.
(No surprises there)

Space ballz
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum2/index.php?topic=8866.0

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[Death Wizard]

Reptile zoo.

 

[Sinny91]

Please dont. I fancied spending some more time in denial.

 

[Death Wizard]

At the risk of being shot down, mocked or just ignored..

This is my main field of interest, there's not much that I don't know in regards to this subject in comparison to the laymen...

One day I intend to perhaps write a book on the subject, but I'm still a decade off having all the information I know I need.. That might sound ridiculous in comparison to what I just wrote prior, but there are agents out there holding some of this information close to their chest.

Feel free to ask me anything; or jump on board with your own views, I can eat info on this topic all day long; in the mean time I will open with:

'We are in a symbiotic relationship with an intelligence that disguises it's self as an extra-terrestrial invasion so as not to alarm us' - Terrence McKenna

YES, YOU DID.

 

[Sinny91]

Why come over to this thread, you utter twat - What I actually meant, in this title, is spirituality in relation to the UFO phenomena - not the fooking genome project.

And herein note - the word 'expert' is nowhere to be seen.

SO NO, I DIDN'T.

Spoiler

You don't sound like an expert on all things spiritual.

Did I claim to be ?

 

[Sinny91]

http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/28/india...utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=Facebook

Hmm, well hearing the conclusion of this story should be fun.

Just another Roswell:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...images-of-UFO-shot-down-by-air-force-revealed

Well that was boring, here's something actually fun - Dawn Mission, Planet Ceres - Images brought to you by Jack Parsons Laboratory.
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/

 

[Sinny91]

Anyway, Wiz - If you're profile is any indication as to what you do in your spare time, why don't you illuminate me with your enlightened perspective - but don't skip to the end of the story.

 

[Death Wizard]

Why come over to this thread, you utter twat - What I actually meant, in this title, is spirituality in relation to the UFO phenomena - not the fooking genome project.

And herein note - the word 'expert' is nowhere to be seen.

SO NO, I DIDN'T.

NEVER call a live Dragon a twat.

 

[Sinny91]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FadrekyNgGY

 

[Sinny91]

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[Pizzabeak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yanMcPexC-E

 

[Black Rose]

https://youtu.be/P8frXzn2pDc

 

[Black Rose]

 

[Sinny91]

THE LIMINALIST # 55: THE AFTERLIFE OF THE CONSTRUCTED IDENTITY; OR, GOD’S PROBLEM

http://auticulture.com/liminalist/

In-depth esoteric explorations (part one) with Mari H, on Whitley Strieber, UFOs, projections of the unconscious, meeting entities in hats, a creature without a face, a weed-induced psychosis, visitations, becoming radioactive, a trip to the primordium, demonic incarnation through sodomy, visions of being Jimmy Savile, gaps in memory, the flyers and the mechanical mind, Morgellons disease, thoughts as nanotechnological implants, astral rape at the dawn of man, where is the psyche, is there anything outside the psyche?, Stargate and ascension fantasies the mythology of the Greys, the Xenomorph, a fear-based mind, radiation in the 5th dimension, marijuana-possession, raped by purple stripes, the home of the psyche, the perspective of a fragment, how the formless takes form, how ego creates its own reality, turning the mundane into the magical, the hunt for the mystical, 1st and 2nd matrix, a spiral staircase to nowhere, banishing an entity, tulpa & The X-Files, can psychic fragments become physical?, stigmata and somatics, creating tulpas, encountering the unconscious, a partial embodiment, the imaginal, imaginary, & real, the afterlife of the constructed identity, the ego lacks sentience, the subtle forms, Bardo realms, inside the belly of the inorganics, a prison made of minds, world-as-abomination, God’s problem, the constitution of consciousness, long outro by Jasun.

 

[Sinny91]

He Will Dance​

After WWI, at the end of 1919, ex-corporal Adolph Hitler met Dietrich Eckart (image right) in Munich. Eckart was a sophisticated and wealthy publisher and was editor-in-chief of an antisemitic publication called In Plain German.

He was also an occultist in the highest circle of The Thule Society, an esoteric group founded in Germany in 1918. He had been a student of Russian metaphysician G.I. Gurdjieff.

Because of his admiration for Eckart Hitler joined the society.

The Thule Society held regular séances during which the attendees reportedly communicated with demons and attempted to invoke the Anti-Christ. During one such session, Eckart believed that he was told by his spirit guide that he would have the honor of training the corning Great One - the incarnation of the Anti-Christ. He soon became convinced that Adolph Hitler was the chosen one, and he took him under his wing.

According to Wulf Schwartzwaller in The Unknown Hitler,
“There can be no doubt that Eckart …trained Hitler in techniques of self-confidence, self-projection, persuasive oratory, body language and discursive sophistry.”
Using these capabilities Hitler became a powerful speaker, able to mesmerize and excite vast audiences. He learned to start his speeches softly, and then build to a peak of pretended frenzied fervor accompanied by animated gesticulations. He also developed a hypnotic power over individuals. Eckart, it is reported, also passed on to Hitler all of his occult knowledge of ritual and sexual Black Magic.

According to Trevor Ravenscroft in The Spear of Destiny regarding the practices of the Thule Society,
“indulgence in the most sadistic rituals awakened penetrating vision into the workings of evil intelligences and bestowed phenomenal magical powers.”
At the completion of this training, Hitler claimed to be “born anew” filled with new strength and the resolve he would need to carry out his “mandate.”

Eckhart died three years later in 1923, and reportedly said on his deathbed,
“Follow Hitler. He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune! I have initiated him into the ‘Secret Doctrine;’ opened his centers of vision and given him the means to communicate with the powers. Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced history more than any German.”
The following year, Hitler dedicated the second volume of his book, Mein Kampf (My Struggle), to Eckart. Eckart’s claim that he had given to Hitler “the means to communicate with the powers” has been interpreted to mean that Hitler could now solicit advice from those same entities that Aleister Crowley referred to as the “secret chiefs,” since Eckart was basically a disciple of Crowley.

Crowley, who was sometimes referred to as the “great beast,” was the head of the infamous occult organization, Order of the Golden Dawn, in London.

In late 1919, the Thule Society became more political, and was instrumental in starting the German Workers’ Party under the leadership of Thulist Karl Harrer.

In 1920, this evolved into the National Socialist German Workers Party, or NSDAP, commonly known as the Nazi Party, drawing its membership from the top echelons of the Thule Society, including,

Rudolf Hess
Heinrich Himmler
Alfred Rosenberg
Adolph Hitler

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/warheaven_warearth12.htm​

 

[PmjPmj]

Ni fuel!

*reads thread, fapping furiously*

 

[Sinny91]

Norman Bergrun - The Ring Makers of Saturn
http://podcast.sjrdesign.net/files/070_RingmakersOfSaturn.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTkoYWLdvU4​

 

[Black Rose]

CGI is much better now than in the 90s

https://youtu.be/RXHN0sGbXfw

 

[A_Scanner_Darkly]

My sister said to me earlier today that when she was with her boyfriend in the pecan fields he is the security guard for that she looked through his binoculars and sees strange things happening. I need to go see for myself. I remember a guy on Coast to Coast AM radio who mentions that such phenomena is real and takes people to go see on a mountain in Montana or some other state. It is illegal to take night vision binoculars outside the USA he said.

what kinds of things do they see out in the pecan fields, specifically? have you been out there yet?

 

[Interdimensionist]

If you don't 'believe' in UFO's, you're calling millions of people 'liars' ... And for this thread to progress I need you to be 'on board' with the notion that they do exist.

I don't dismiss the existence of extraterrestrial beings outright however I am yet to see a single piece of conclusive evidence, grainy videos of amorphous balls of light dancing in the sky do little to persuade me. Admittedly I find the government's documentation on supposed alien sightings (Rockwell, Area 51) to be intriguing in their own right and to me it seems like there's a good chance that the probability of there not being any other lifeforms in a universe as vast as ours is slim.

However I believe it is unlikely for our civilisation and theirs to cross paths due to technological limitations and the fact that the short time-span of most species means that it is highly improbable that we would ever even exist in the same time period at all.

Saying that, I'm still interested in sifting through whatever bits and pieces you've got to show, shit's fascinating regardless of the likelihood of E.T. landing in the car park behind my block and whisking me away.

 

[Fukyo]

http://savageminds.org/2015/10/23/s...tan-buddhist-aliens-and-religious-syncretism/

Funny thing is I was reading a Reddit thread about DMT experiences the other day and some guy said Buddha alien was in his trip.

 

[Interdimensionist]

http://savageminds.org/2015/10/23/s...tan-buddhist-aliens-and-religious-syncretism/

Funny thing is I was reading a Reddit thread about DMT experiences the other day and some guy said Buddha alien was in his trip.

I've heard this from a guy I used to work with who seemed very Ne to me, awkward and weird out of place humour, quirky dress style and random topics of conversation he would just blurt out but wrapped up in a weird bodybuilder, trying too hard exterior, didn't seem overly bright either, probably ENFP or something.

Told me that he took DMT in his room in the dark and was convinced he crossed over through a portal into another dimension and visited space and aliens and shit. I told him he was probably just tripping balls in the dark but went along with the convo out of sheer entertainment value, not gonna lie I thought it was interesting although our colleagues were just like what the fuck? Anyway cut a long story short, he says he still gets flashbacks or visions every now and then, like he'll get up and open a door and see another world behind it where usually it's just a car park or he sees old friends and acquaintances behind portals as if they want to communicate some sort of message.

Kinda fascinated with the idea of some drugs being a gateway to higher consciousness but then again he could've just typed me early and was trying to bullshit me for giggles.

 

[Fukyo]

Told me that he took DMT in his room in the dark and was convinced he crossed over through a portal into another dimension and visited space and aliens and shit. I told him he was probably just tripping balls in the dark but went along with the convo out of sheer entertainment value, not gonna lie I thought it was interesting although our colleagues were just like what the fuck? Anyway cut a long story short, he says he still gets flashbacks or visions every now and then, like he'll get up and open a door and see another world behind it where usually it's just a car park or he sees old friends and acquaintances behind portals as if they want to communicate some sort of message.

Kinda fascinated with the idea of some drugs being a gateway to higher consciousness but then again he could've just typed me early and was trying to bullshit me for giggles.

It's a pretty common theme from what I've read. Most people seem to meet entities too, although their interpretation varies. Terrence McKenna termed them machine elves.

This guy he said he saw two aliens pushing a baby alien through a wormhole portal to be born on Earth as Buddha. Some people think the DMT molecule was given to humans so they would achieve higher consciousness states where they can communicate with "aliens". McKenna claimed humans evolved higher consciousness because prehistoric humans used psychedelics. It's pretty crazy, but interesting.

 

[Interdimensionist]

It just sounds like the whole consciousness expansion thing of the '60s. People said they would drop a few tabs and suddenly feel like a different person, see colours differently and then that was it, you couldn't go back to monochrome after seeing the world in glorious technicolor.

Fascinating but I always have to wonder how much of it can just be chalked up to the drug altering chemicals in the brain then the guy in my story claimed to have been a one time user so it must hit you pretty damn hard if so but then again:

Steve Jobs: LSD.
Bill Gates: LSD.
Carl Sagan: Marijuana.
Richard Feynman: LSD, Marijuana and Ketamine.
Francis Crick: LSD.
John C. Lilly: LSD and Ketamine.

Heard a lot about physicists and mathematicians having done some of their greatest work after tripping.

I only have a one time experience with MD so can't comment much on that whole branch of things drugs wise, totally different experience from weed but I didn't see anything, someone I was with thought a tree stump she saw was a dinosaur but that was it. Kind of a light and airy carefree vibe I thought. Well for me anyway, everyone else was freaking out a little 'cos we were lost in a forest but I was pretty chilled and didn't give a fuck. Just made me want to sit bolt upright in bed and listen to music when I got home.

This reminds me, I still haven't watched that documentary on DMT on Netflix I've been meaning to.

 

[Pyropyro]

It's a pretty common theme from what I've read. Most people seem to meet entities too, although their interpretation varies. Terrence McKenna termed them machine elves.

This guy he said he saw two aliens pushing a baby alien through a wormhole portal to be born on Earth as Buddha. Some people think the DMT molecule was given to humans so they would achieve higher consciousness states where they can communicate with "aliens". McKenna claimed humans evolved higher consciousness because prehistoric humans used psychedelics. It's pretty crazy, but interesting.

It's indeed pretty crazy but the DMT lead might point to something. N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) is found human fluids although it gets metabolized very quickly. It's even used in religious ceremonies and have no documentations that points to a possible abuse (if taken through as an ayahuasca brew). It's a pity that its a Schedule I drug though.

I wonder if we can stimulate our bodies enough in order to get a DMT high. We can do that for certain natural body chemicals via continuous running or "runner's high" so probably we just need to find the exact trigger for DMT.

 

[A_Scanner_Darkly]

^IMO, the drugs are merely a catalyst. For minds that already harbor much potential, they can be the extra push that impels the host on to visionary brilliance. If you give an exceedingly ordinary mind some drugs, it'll become more aware for sure, but as we all know alchemy is a failed science.

That said, meditation, and other such alleged substitutes, are unlikely to do the trick.

I still need to do DMT...but I don't miss the drugs. Overuse/abuse will just end up turning your brain into goop.

 

[Sinny91]

I don't dismiss the existence of extraterrestrial beings outright however I am yet to see a single piece of conclusive evidence, grainy videos of amorphous balls of light dancing in the sky do little to persuade me. Admittedly I find the government's documentation on supposed alien sightings (Rockwell, Area 51) to be intriguing in their own right and to me it seems like there's a good chance that the probability of there not being any other lifeforms in a universe as vast as ours is slim.

However I believe it is unlikely for our civilisation and theirs to cross paths due to technological limitations and the fact that the short time-span of most species means that it is highly improbable that we would ever even exist in the same time period at all.

Saying that, I'm still interested in sifting through whatever bits and pieces you've got to show, shit's fascinating regardless of the likelihood of E.T. landing in the car park behind my block and whisking me away.

More than a year later, and I still haven't completed this thread. lul.

I'm not a proponent of the ETH (Extraterrestrial Hypothesis), in the mainstream sense.

There were no aliens at Roswell, and there have never been any at Area 51.. I wouldn't waste your time entertaining that... Despite what the Clintons have recently been spouting.

 

[Interdimensionist]

There were no aliens at Roswell, and there have never are been any at Area 51.. I wouldn't waste your time entertaining that... Despite what the Clintons have recently been spouting.

But... independence day... are you saying it was all a lie and I won't be able to wield my laptop as a deadly weapon in the upcoming intergalactic war?

Haven't been keeping up with the Clintons, what have the been spouting lately?

 

[Sinny91]

http://savageminds.org/2015/10/23/s...tan-buddhist-aliens-and-religious-syncretism/

Funny thing is I was reading a Reddit thread about DMT experiences the other day and some guy said Buddha alien was in his trip.

Quote from above article.

I mentioned Rothstein’s work on the ‘ufological turn’ in post-Blavatsky Theosophical movements, where, as historical Tibet became progressively de-mystified and accessible, Tibetan Spiritual Masters were recast as benign Space Brothers.

Rothstein sees this shift as being about narrowing the Masters ontologically, as making them (ironically) more down-to-earth, more rational and corporeal

I've also read an account of George Hunt Williamson (Brother Phillip) stating the same.

So, straight from the horses mouth, really.

 

[Sinny91]

But... independence day... are you saying it was all a lie and I won't be able to wield my laptop as a deadly weapon in the upcoming intergalactic war?

Haven't been keeping up with the Clintons, what have the been spouting lately?

Collectively insinuating that there is an untold alien story, and they'll get to the bottom of it.

Bill was asked why he didn't have access to the info when he was president, he replied that everything is compartmentlised, and even the president doesn't get to know everything...

But a number of his own close business associates were working down at 51 at the time, so I do not for a second think they knew shit and didnt tell him..

Not that there's anything to tell anyway.

I mean, there are things to tell.. But not what we're led to believe.

They're all into talking to none corporeal entities... But they're just that, non corporeal.

A few proponent people have disclosed some curious tid bits, such as Ben Rich for example.

I'll gather some quotes.

(**Sinny puches self in the head, because there are still a few unresolved aspects to this narrative she's promoting)

 

[Interdimensionist]

Okay, I got about a third of the way through the article above and have a few questions:

If the aliens are so worried about the damage we cause to the environment and they are able to contact us and or travel to earth, I'm assuming they have developed technology to the point where it far surpasses our own using what one would have to imagine are fairly ecologically friendly methods. If they have found a way to yield the kinds of resources that allow for interplanetary communication and travel whilst causing minimum damage to the environment, why haven't they shared these secrets with us in order to prevent further destruction of our own planet?

Furthermore, why do they care so much about this planet in the first place? They don't have to live here and deal with the repercussions of our actions. What knowledge could a more advanced civilization of aliens hope to glean from the human race? Is there something hidden deep at the earth's core that they're after? Or are these supposed to be Avataresque beings who are more in tune with nature than we could ever hope to be and they feel some sort of angst over the destruction of earth?

 

[Sinny91]

It just sounds like the whole consciousness expansion thing of the '60s. People said they would drop a few tabs and suddenly feel like a different person, see colours differently and then that was it, you couldn't go back to monochrome after seeing the world in glorious technicolor.

Fascinating but I always have to wonder how much of it can just be chalked up to the drug altering chemicals in the brain then the guy in my story claimed to have been a one time user so it must hit you pretty damn hard if so but then again:

Steve Jobs: LSD.
Bill Gates: LSD.
Carl Sagan: Marijuana.
Richard Feynman: LSD, Marijuana and Ketamine.
Francis Crick: LSD.
John C. Lilly: LSD and Ketamine.

Heard a lot about physicists and mathematicians having done some of their greatest work after tripping.

I only have a one time experience with MD so can't comment much on that whole branch of things drugs wise, totally different experience from weed but I didn't see anything, someone I was with thought a tree stump she saw was a dinosaur but that was it. Kind of a light and airy carefree vibe I thought. Well for me anyway, everyone else was freaking out a little 'cos we were lost in a forest but I was pretty chilled and didn't give a fuck. Just made me want to sit bolt upright in bed and listen to music when I got home.

This reminds me, I still haven't watched that documentary on DMT on Netflix I've been meaning to.

Oh dude, I took LSD for the first time 6 months ago.

Best fucking thing I ever did ever.

(Nobody believes me when I tell them, accuse me of 'trying to be cool' - ha, like I have to try )

Cannae wait to get my hands on MOAR!!

The things it does.. Fucking amazeballs.

MD just makes everything look and feel lovely..

But after a number of weeks on MD, it became really hard to get high... Only experienced the sort of hallucinations you do by sleep deprivation.

Ha, I remember now the word I used consistently on MD was 'Lovely' .. fucking everything was Lovely.

On LSD, the word I constantly used was 'Amazing', everything was fucking Amazing.

Ohh, now I'm sad because I'm not highh

 

[dang]

I honestly believe the movie They Live is basically non fiction. I also believe I once spoke with a person who was not actually human. I am not crazy. I described my experience on a thread I started at INFJ forum entitled Paranormal activity. Sinny contributed as well. All I know is, most people are asleep to what is actually happening in the world today. I am still very ignorant, but at least I am curious and open minded. Most people found the Matrix movie to be entertaining. I found it to be that as well, but also disturbing. The Matrix is also in my opinion a very accurate metaphysical depiction of the world we live in. Symbolically, yes. But even more so than that. Even Neil Degrasse Tyson recently claimed that he believed it was likely we are actually living in a simulated universe. If indeed we are, who created it and for what purpose? The rabbit hole runs deep. I agree with Sinny that the term "conspiracy theorist" is a form of mind control. Once someone is labeled as such, all of their views are dismissed. "Fluoride isn't healthy you say? You are just a delusional paranoid conspiracy theorist." The term slams the breaks on critical thinking. I just want to know the truth. I would actually prefer to be a materialist. I wish the world were simple. But my experiences don't support the notion that we live in a simple reality. It is complex. "When the doors of perception are cleansed, things will appear as they truly are. Infinite." I think William Blake is right. Once you adopt his mentality, why wouldn't there be non human intelligent beings on earth? It is pretty much a logical conclusion based on the vastness of the cosmos. One more question since semantics are relevant here. If non human intelligent beings have been on earth since prior to the existence of Homo sapiens, would they really be aliens even if they originated elsewhere? Maybe we are even aliens ourselves who came to this planet long ago and we forget our origins. There are many possibilities. I have my own hypotheses which I am not attached to. This is not mere shadow projection. What if Star Wars is really non fiction and not just modern mythology? What if we are basically livestock in comparison to other species? What if we are simply characters in someone's video game from the future and it is really the year 3000 and we are just a source of someone else's amusement? And would the creator or the player of said game be considered our God? All I know is we are all ignorant. But that doesn't mean we can't become more enlightened with effort. Being a seeker can be a pain in the ass. But it also has its rewards. Time to wake up. Or else. What do you think?

 

[Interdimensionist]

I honestly believe the movie They Live is basically non fiction. I also believe I once spoke with a person who was not actually human.

I once met two guys in a diner in Florida who claimed to be angels, was kind of creepy at the time because they started talking and giving me lectures or advice as if they knew me personally or had been stalking me for a while or maybe they really were angels. Then again we were in a diner called 'Angels Buffet' so maybe they were just trolling

If non human intelligent beings have been on earth since prior to the existence of Homo sapiens, would they really be aliens even if they originated elsewhere? Maybe we are even aliens ourselves who came to this planet long ago and we forget our origins.

There's a prevailing theory somewhere that all life on earth was transported here by a comet carrying some microbes that were preserved by the cold vacuum of space until the asteroid crash landed in the sea or something so this is probably accurate, we've just been around, or think we've been around for so long on earth that we can't imagine originating from or being anywhere else.

What if we are simply characters in someone's video game from the future and it is really the year 3000 and we are just a source of someone else's amusement? And would the creator or the player of said game be considered our God?

Behold, the face of our almighty father.

I will start a thread about this shortly, I have quite a few theories I'd like to bounce around relating to the whole coded universe paradigm.