a possibility as to why intps have a hard time waking up more so than other types?

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For the first time ever, scientists at the University of Rochester have found one of the reasons our brain needs sleep to survive. Turns out, when we sleep, our brain takes that time to clean out the build-up of brain junk we accumulate during our waking hours. Sleep is pretty much necessary for our body’s mental street-cleaners to come out and do their work.

When cells do their daily cell-type work, they produce waste product. The rest of the body has this waste cleared out by the lymphatic system, but the brain is disconnected from that, so it needs another way to wipe out the waste. The brain has it’s own garbage men, carried on the waves of cerebrospinal fluid, who surf the leftovers straight down to your liver for elimination. As it turns out, the brain’s garbage men move twice as fast when you’re sleeping, because your neurons shrink by half, making the fluid channels wider.

“This study shows that the brain has different functional states when asleep and when awake,” said U of R researcher Maiken Nedergaard. “In fact, the restorative nature of sleep appears to be the result of the active clearance of the by-products of neural activity that accumulate during wakefulness.”

So get lots of rest, or else your brain’s spinal-fluid surfing street cleaners can’t get their gig done right

 

[Fukyo]

Did you conclude that INTPs have a hard time waking up based on a sample of one (yourself)?

 

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Perhaps our brains produce more waste byproducts than other types? Thus needing more sleep than the average person.

 

[deadpixel]

Did you conclude that INTPs have a hard time waking up based on a sample of one (yourself)?

I've heard that intps have a difficult time waking up and like to sleep more than other types. This applies to me, it may not apply to a lot of intps but for the ones that it does I think it is a good assumption.

 

[Fukyo]

I've heard that intps have a difficult time waking up and like to sleep more than other types. This applies to me, it may not apply to a lot of intps but for the ones that it does I think it is a good assumption.

Yes, this is great logic. I salute you.


This kind of thing makes me want to trow a shit fit like bronto and call you an idiot.

 

[TimeAsylums]

Perhaps our brains produce more waste byproducts than other types? Thus needing more sleep than the average person.

/lost it

 

[TimeAsylums]

Did you conclude that INTPs have a hard time waking up based on a sample of one (yourself)?

what, you've never heard of inductive reasoning?

trow a shit fit like bronto

i'd pay to see you do this

 

[Fukyo]

what, you've never heard of inductive reasoning?

No.

i'd pay to see you do this

how much?

the inhibitions on my aggression and bullshit calling are loosening lately gjfuthdjdudhdudh

 

[Rome96]

Yes, this is great logic. I salute you.


This kind of thing makes me want to trow a shit fit like bronto and call you an idiot.

Haha that's harsh

 

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If I didnt have to sleep I wouldnt even do it.

 

[Base groove]

While I do believe that INTPs produce more brain-waste per day than the average waste of a brain, I think ENTP probably produce even more brain-waste (pound for pound) so maybe it is the ENTP who has a hard time waking up?

I know that I have no problem waking up whatsoever my problem is staying awake at night. Sometimes I'm out by 7:00. Maybe that's an INTJ problem?

 

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While I do believe that INTPs produce more brain-waste per day than the average waste of a brain, I think ENTP probably produce even more brain-waste (pound for pound) so maybe it is the ENTP who has a hard time waking up?

I know that I have no problem waking up whatsoever my problem is staying awake at night. Sometimes I'm out by 7:00. Maybe that's an INTJ problem?

Im not really sure, I was only mostly really taking intp's sleep habits into consideration, it seems like introverted thinkers in general are the most prone to this "brain waste" than other types, I was thinking INTP's more than the others have this issue though. The more thinking that is done the more neuron activity there will be, much like a car that runs harder is going to use more gas.

 

[Base groove]

It has far more to do with diet than personality type.........

 

[deadpixel]

It has far more to do with diet than personality type.........

Yes I don't doubt that, in sure a lot of shit is going on while you sleep, I was referring to the brain byproducts playing an extra factor for introverted thinkers more so than other types. I think ITA a good clue as yo Abu irá hardwe for me to wake up. My fx the isfj love's waking up extra early on her day off to get me up to spend time with her but I'm not a morning person. This is all just speculative.

 

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Sorry for that coming out so wrong, I hate posting from my phone.

 

[Steven Gerrard]

I went to a show last night, had some drinks.

I showed up for work an hour and 40 minutes late today. I was sortoff drunk. I put a staple through the side of a finished cabinet we were packing.

That being said, it's over and I don't think I did too much damage to my reputation. I'm a pretty good employee.

 

[Base groove]

For the first time ever, scientists at the University of Rochester have found one of the reasons our brain needs sleep to survive.

Oh this original sentence makes me chuckle though.

 

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Oh this original sentence makes me chuckle though.

Yes im pretty sure they discovered at least one reason by now lol.

 

[Pyropyro]

Okay I really need to sleep much earlier. I prefer quality thinking capability than quantity thinking.

 

[The Gopher]

Fukyo obviously needs more sleep.

 

[Pyropyro]

Fukyo obviously needs more sleep.

So should we have a giant INTPf sleepover then? You know, for improved brain capabilities and stuff. (For some reason I feel that it would turn out into a rather dirty and interesting affair.)

 

[Ribald]

I have always had more trouble waking up than most people. When I used to work, I'd hit the snooze alarm every 9 minutes for several hours before waking up usually.

These days, my sleep is extremely erratic, but I get a lot of it. When I read that erratic sleep can kill neurons or whatever, I decided to try to get myself on schedule. I was gonna go to bed at 1 AM and wake up at 9, ad infinitum. By midnight the night before I was gonna start, I was like.... ya know, I really fucking hate waking up in the morning. Fuck it.

And that tends to be about how far most of my plans get. I hate routine. I hate it. I like to wake up when I am not tired anymore. And I like to wake up at varied points in the day, because if every day were the same, I would get very bored and depressed.

Tonight I might go to bed as the sun rises and wake up in the afternoon tomorrow.

 

[redbaron]

The amount of sleep I get typically ranges between 12 hours and 2. Sometimes I'm borderline insomniac and too manic to relax, other times I'm like a sloth and do nothing but relax.

Trying to attach an MBTI-based cause to the effect of neurological nuances is silly.

 

[Infinitum]

I think the clearest late at night. This means I stay up late, which in turn means I can't wake up easily. I read this one study once that showed that when sleep deprived we are unaware of how impaired our mental state becomes. This could create a negative cycle for INTP's who believe that their thought processes are unimpaired leading them to stay up later and therefore have difficulty waking up. I have participated in this cycle many times myself. I have gone back and forth with whether I believe I need a "healthy amount" of sleep or not. I have this application on my phone called sleep cycle alarm clock and it monitors sleep cycles. While the data it has given me has shown a correlation between amount of time in bed, quality of sleep, and performance through out the day, the correlation has never been strong enough to give me considerable weight to sleeping more. However, I need to tryout a more consistent routine before I draw any hard conclusions. Speaking of sleep I better head that way myself.

 

[TimeAsylums]

While I do believe that INTPs produce more brain-waste per day than the average waste of a brain, I think ENTP probably produce even more brain-waste (pound for pound) so maybe it is the ENTP who has a hard time waking up?

Sorting through the entropy v information ain't easy

 

[TimeAsylums]

Fukyo obviously needs more sleep.

So should we have a giant INTPf sleepover then?

I volunteer my bed as tribute

 

[Chocobana]

I don't think being an INTP or any other type has anything to do with it. It probably depends on whether you're a heavy sleeper or not. It's as simple as that.

Perhaps our brains produce more waste byproducts than other types? Thus needing more sleep than the average person.

Not a lot is known about the mechanisms of sleep so you could speculate away, sure, but being the thinking type does not equate more brain waste generated. I wonder, if the introverted types use their brains to think, are the extroverted types' brains stuffed with fluff during the day? I'm sure their brains work just as much/as hard, but with the difference being the focus and nature of their neural activities.

EDIT: I might sound aggressive but I'm just thinking it out. No hard feelings.

 

[Base groove]

Let's just ask Architect....

Honestly, I will predict his sleep cycle:

Bed by 9
Up by 5:30

..same as mine.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Stop masturbating

You might actually die from doing so too much, see

 

[pernoctator]

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2378452

 

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http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2378452

Go to bed early ya doofus!

 

[TimeAsylums]

Stop masturbating

You might actually die from doing so too much, see

what is reality^3?

 

[The Gopher]

Time you must report back on Lot's waking habits.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Yes, this is great logic. I salute you.


This kind of thing makes me want to trow a shit fit like bronto and call you an idiot.

i would never throw a shit fit over something so innocuous

 

[TimeAsylums]

i would never throw a shit fit over something so innocuous

/life

 

[Base groove]

i would never throw a shit fit over something so innocuous

Fi................

More of a question, actually...

 

[Cherry Cola]

i would never throw a shit fit over something so innocuous

stop pretending like utter fucking moronic statements are innocuous you wannabe INFP

not taking any care to actually make sense yet engaging in discourse IS disrespective and totally not cool or innocuous

 

[DIALECTIC]

I have ZERO problem waking up unless i am depressed and therefore torn apart by psychic energy consuming ego defense mechanisms !
I doubt waking up is a problem for INTPs ! If you have interesting things to do one should be in perfect mood to wake up. If not, if you have obligations to attend to, then you have no choice, you do have to wake up anyway ! I always wake up earlier than i have to so i can take my time to get ready, which i didn't do when i was younger !

 

[Brontosaurie]

stop pretending like utter fucking moronic statements are innocuous you wannabe INFP

not taking any care to actually make sense yet engaging in discourse IS disrespective and totally not cool or innocuous

he's not being obstinate about it as far as i can tell.

besides: you're the wannabe man, since you want me to not be a feeler for some (obvious) reason whereas i'm merely contemplating and scrutinizing the possibility.

 

[Nick]

maybe we sleep so much because we have hedonistic values.

 

[Cherry Cola]

he's not being obstinate about it as far as i can tell.

besides: you're the wannabe man, since you want me to not be a feeler for some (obvious) reason whereas i'm merely contemplating and scrutinizing the possibility.

You're right about the wannabe part but, nonetheless, I wasn't accusing him of being obstinate but rather of making a totally sloppy reply completely void of sensemaking.

Here's what I think about the issue being discussed in this thread:

There's a reason almost everyone needs an alarm to get up in the morning. Waking up isn't easy or painless under the circumstances we live in.

It's supposed to take some time and there's supposed to be a transitional phase of drowsiness.

Another guess I'm willing to make is that people hanging out on forums like these are opt to stay up too late and not get the 7-8 hours of sleep they need which further increases the issue.

I doubt it has anything at all to do with ones MBTI type, I hate waking up too.

 

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You're right about the wannabe part but; nonetheless, I wasn't accusing him of being obstinate but rather of making a totally sloppy reply completely void of sensemaking.

Here's what I think about the issue being discussed in this thread:

There's a reason almost everyone needs an alarm to get up in the morning. Waking up isn't easy or painless under the circumstances we live in.

It's supposed to take some time and there's supposed to be a transitional phase of drowsiness.

Another guess I'm willing to make is that people hanging out on forums like these are opt to stay up too late and not get the 7-8 hours of sleep they need which further increases the issue.

I doubt it has anything at all to do with ones MBTI type, I hate waking up too.

So was it horrible idea to speculate that the more a person thinks the more byproducts their brain produces and that the more byproducts your brain produces could be ONE of the reasons that CONTRIBUTES to wanting more sleep due to the fact that it is during sleep that these byproducts are removed?

You think that a brain that does virtually no thinking at all has the same amount of neural activity than a brain that does nothing BUT thinking aka "THE THINKER" AKA "THE INTP"

This was a SPECULATION, im not saying this IS WHY IT IS THE WAY IT IS. IM NOT SAYING ALL INTPS HAVE A HARD TIME WAKING UP, Im speculating WHY it might be an issue for the ones that DO have a hard time waking up. Get off your fucking high horses with all of your "THIS IS SUCH A DUMB THEORY" bullshit.

 

[pernoctator]

Do you suppose the neural activity driving sensing and feeling functions is employed in the butt rather than the brain? Also how much sleep did you get last night?

 

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Do you suppose the neural activity driving sensing and feeling functions is employed in the butt rather than the brain? Also how much sleep did you get last night?

no but sensations employed in the butt do trigger neural activity in the brain related to sensing and feeling

 

[Cherry Cola]

So was it horrible idea to speculate that the more a person thinks the more byproducts their brain produces and that the more byproducts your brain produces could be ONE of the reasons that CONTRIBUTES to wanting more sleep due to the fact that it is during sleep that these byproducts are removed?

You think that a brain that does virtually no thinking at all has the same amount of neural activity than a brain that does nothing BUT thinking aka "THE THINKER" AKA "THE INTP"

This was a SPECULATION, im not saying this IS WHY IT IS THE WAY IT IS. IM NOT SAYING ALL INTPS HAVE A HARD TIME WAKING UP, Im speculating WHY it might be an issue for the ones that DO have a hard time waking up. Get off your fucking high horses with all of your "THIS IS SUCH A DUMB THEORY" bullshit.

YES, indeed YES it WAS. Because other types don't think less, they think differently. I would go so far as to say that it's ill disguised type favoritism following this post of yours. Though you could perhaps speculate that extroverted people (less neural activity) have an easier time getting up in the morning.

But that wasn't what I was commenting on either, I was commenting on Bronto's reaction to the post that made Fukyo want to throw a shit fit Bronto-style, arguing that it did indeed warrant a shit fit owing to it demonstrating lazy-ass shit posting - as well as some really miry diarrhea-logic. Kinda like this latest post of yours also does in FUCKT.

MOTHERFUCKER

 

[Base groove]

This battle must continue.

 

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YES, indeed YES it WAS. Because other types don't think less, they think differently. I would go so far as to say that it's ill disguised type favoritism following this post of yours. Though you could perhaps speculate that extroverted people (less neural activity) have an easier time getting up in the morning.

But that wasn't what I was commenting on either, I was commenting on Bronto's reaction to the post that made Fukyo want to throw a shit fit Bronto-style, arguing that it did indeed warrant a shit fit owing to it demonstrating lazy-ass shit posting - as well as some really miry diarrhea-logic. Kinda like this latest post of yours also does in FUCKT.

MOTHERFUCKER

Thinking is thinking and feeling is feeling, They are not the same. Im not going to argue with a feeler because I do enough of that with my girlfriend. Take the narrow mind of your F elsewhere.

 

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One thing i've noticed about a lot of the F's ive come across is their inability to be open to ideas, this doesnt surprise me that you would get so upset over what was supposed to be a fun speculation. Im glad im not an F, I would rather shit in my hands and clap.

 

[TimeAsylums]

One thing i've noticed about a lot of the F's ive come across is their inability to be open to ideas, this doesnt surprise me that you would get so upset over what was supposed to be a fun speculation. Im glad im not an F, I would rather shit in my hands and clap.

/life

cooperbrown504

 

[deadpixel]

Its like saying Einstein could have easily come up with the theory of relativity using his emotions IF he really wanted to.