Your un-INTP traits?

[astroninja]

Hey there guys,
I'm new here - brand new posting! Woots! Great to be among other like-minded people from across the world.

I'm an INTP, living in Australia, currently undertaking my Ph.D studies in Sociology. Just like most INTPs, I obsess over activities which result in greater knowledge. Leisure activities include: Watching an abundance of horror movies, reading up on the meanings of words, sociology books, classic fiction, and... socializing!

Onto the thread... the question I'm posing here is: What do you consider to be your most un-INTP trait?. I mean this of course as: what particular trait of yourself would you consider NOT to fall into the typical INTP archetype?

Personally, although INTPs are usually hostile/indifferent/admonishing towards those individuals who engage in excessive emotionalism or fall into the paroxysms of emotional outbursts, I find many F types - particularly the INFPs - to be attractive - almost alluring - in their ability to delve deeply into their emotional depths and pull from them some genuinely stunning observations of the world. They may not always be grounded in pedantic logic, nor polished in the 'accuracy' of their details, but I actually find myself truly appreciative and in admiration of descriptions which are drawn out from human emotional capacities. There is beauty in that, I find. I think it helps me learn how to relate with others on different levels, to empathize and accept others, and not just selfish expect others to succumb to my own parochial mindset. Maybe it's because of my background as a qualitative sociologist, so I've been conditioned to treat social phenomenon as something of intrinsic worth - an insight into the human condition which may transpose itself into some form of material reality within the social world. I'm not sure why, really. But I do find, at least among my INTP and INTJ friends, that when I voice my appreciation for such emotional expressions, I am greeted with some chiding, teasing, or quizzical looks.

What about all of you guys?

P.S. It's great to be here.

P.P.S. Random information: My university recently ran a Myer-Briggs inspired survey on the student population and discovered a correlation between the top performing students and INTJ/INTP/ENTP types. The SF's made up most of the bottom-half.

 

[Roran]

My un-intp traits: An addiction to sappy dramedy webcomics. Liking to read fantasy novels, Using this font, having a variety of seemingly random and unrelated interests, being 14.

Edit: Font Size up

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Comic sans is an absolutely awful font. It should be banned. Nothing personal, comic sans is just... an aesthetic sin. You're a cool person, don't get me wrong. I don't want to start any flame-wars or so here.

Ehh, anyways, my biggest un-INTP trait is probably becoming moody, cold, and annoyed towards others out of nowhere without any explanation for it(I suspect it has to do with being exposed to too much people for a too long time period, possibly combined with lack of sleep, but I'm not sure), and in general acting like an archetypal teenager, with the usual struggles. It's like being stuck in the body of a high schooler, and acting like one, but at the same time being constantly aware that you're a completely ridiculous whiny person towards others.

 

[Lot]

I know that feel bro. Almost every thing that comes out of my mouth towards other people pisses me off at myself.

I tend to watch really sappy anime that makes me want to cry. For some reason anime and music are the only things that lead me to tears. The weird part is that this is the reason why I watch them, so I can cry. I would have to say that this is not very INTP.

Edit: Uhg Quote fail.

 

[brieze]

Comic sans is an absolutely awful font. It should be banned. Nothing personal, comic sans is just... an aesthetic sin. You're a cool person, don't get me wrong. I don't want to start any flame-wars or so here.

Ehh, anyways, my biggest un-INTP trait is probably becoming moody, cold, and annoyed towards others out of nowhere without any explanation for it(I suspect it has to do with being exposed to too much people for a too long time period, possibly combined with lack of sleep, but I'm not sure), and in general acting like an archetypal teenager, with the usual struggles. It's like being stuck in the body of a high schooler, and acting like one, but at the same time being constantly aware that you're a completely ridiculous whiny person towards others.

I do this too, and I'm pretty sure that's the reason. Not sure about it being un-INTP, though.

 

[astroninja]

Do all INTPs fancy themselves Stoic philosophers or something? There's nothing wrong with wanting to cry from time to time.

 

[Zionoxis]

My drive to fit in or to not look like a complete moron. I do not care about seeking approval but I do have a need not to do anything that looks stupid.

 

[Hadoblado]

From time to time I like people. Also despite being quite unconventional in my patterns of behaviour, I care all too much what people think (more trying not to look bad than anything else).

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I know that feel bro. Almost every thing that comes out of my mouth towards other people pisses me off at myself.

I tend to watch really sappy anime that makes me want to cry. For some reason anime and music are the only things that lead me to tears. The weird part is that this is the reason why I watch them, so I can cry. I would have to say that this is not very INTP.

Edit: Uhg Quote fail.

Yeah, it's so strange... I feel like the way I'm presenting myself is so much different from my 'inner-me', but then again, my 'outside-me' is me, too. I'm just not comfortable with it or something. So hard to explain. I can spend entire nights being pissed at myself for behaving like such an ignorant dick towards others. Even the posts I make on this forum make me cringe sometimes, but I still post them. If anybody knows if this specific phenomenon has a name or something, that'd be great.

@brieze: Yeah, I just realized that what I said wasn't very un-INTP at all in the end... It's seemingly un-INTP though, I guess.

Damn, the way we're talking about 'un-INTPness' makes me feel like being an INTP is a chosen subculture :/

 

[Auburn]

INTP isn't a style of behavior.. D:

It's a cognitive-processing-order. (which can produce an extensive range of behaviors)

That said, I actually fit this flavor of INTP too:

Personally, although INTPs are usually hostile/indifferent/admonishing towards those individuals who engage in excessive emotionalism or fall into the paroxysms of emotional outbursts, I find many F types - particularly the INFPs - to be attractive - almost alluring - in their ability to delve deeply into their emotional depths and pull from them some genuinely stunning observations of the world. They may not always be grounded in pedantic logic, nor polished in the 'accuracy' of their details, but I actually find myself truly appreciative and in admiration of descriptions which are drawn out from human emotional capacities. There is beauty in that, I find. I think it helps me learn how to relate with others on different levels, to empathize and accept others, and not just selfish expect others to succumb to my own parochial mindset. Maybe it's because of my background as a qualitative sociologist, so I've been conditioned to treat social phenomenon as something of intrinsic worth - an insight into the human condition which may transpose itself into some form of material reality within the social world. I'm not sure why, really. But I do find, at least among my INTP and INTJ friends, that when I voice my appreciation for such emotional expressions, I am greeted with some chiding, teasing, or quizzical looks.

What about all of you guys?

...and people keep calling me an INFP.

 

[Fallenman]

agreed with OP .

 

[Zionoxis]

I have been told that I come across as arrogant. Does that impression fall onto you all for me?

 

[Aramea]

I am more of a people person that most INTPs. I think that this stems from my being bullied as a kid and deciding that I did not want to be a complete misfit in the world. I am also very self conscious and don 't like to hurt people's feelings if I can at all avoid it. I am very uncomfortable with confrontation and conflict.

 

[alrai]

I'm tired of people thinking they some how brought me out of my shell or something, around new people/new setting I'm always initially quite, always. I have to break my general modesty, and say that my experiences in life are of so much variety, I take pride in that for an INTP.
I dont watch tv much, I dont have a ps3, and the only books I've read are compulsory educational books, anything that sparks my intrest I just look up online. I've grew up in a building with 8 floors, opposite it was a building of 5 floors, and they both were under the same name. Me and my peers united, they appreciated me for some qualities.

I'm still in touch with them, I dont actually look for long term relationships, I prefer getting to know people, learn something from them, and when they no longer benifit me, move on. I think there are only a few people that deserve my honest commitment. I'm not sure if that INTP-ish.
I was unemployed for several years, My real reason, for inexperience in jobs stems from my complicated value system, not my oppurtunities.

We all know that the MBTI type indicator isn't a measure of ability, but rather of preference, its exuasting using your less prefered cognitive processes, but we can still access all eight.
But some of us result in using the typology for labeling/predicting people with certian behaviours, that may actually have nothing to do with them.
Just because you understand their type, it doesn't neccesarily lead to a better understanding of the person, all it means, is you chose to interpret their behaviour in a certain way.

Also, I see precision as important, but I dont feel the need to correct people all the time. I do need time alone, although, I dont avoid connecting with people, I cant remember the last time I spent a whole day at home, by myself. Is that typical of INTP's?

Ti is probably my dominant function, sometimes I feel like I fit the description of an ISTP more, especially if I'm involved in creating/fixing something. The main thing I feel I strongly relate to, would be the drive to define and understand the world, and sometimes the world model of
people I care for.

 

[Dave]

I don't like math.

 

[brieze]

I don't like math.

Same. But then I tend to look at situations in a algebraic way. Like if I solve for some variables I'll be able to find the solution.

Actually now that I think about it, it's just geometry I hate. And solving pages of equations for no damn reason. I think I'm still bitter about math from high school.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I hate math.

I like deducting everything in a mathematical way as well though. It just doesn't make sense...

 

[Bird]

I cry every time I watch the movie Babe.
So heart rendering.

 

[crippli]

Same. But then I tend to look at situations in a algebraic way. Like if I solve for some variables I'll be able to find the solution.

Actually now that I think about it, it's just geometry I hate. And solving pages of equations for no damn reason. I think I'm still bitter about math from high school.

How weird. I'm only mediocre interested in math. I do not like algebra, but I remember my math techer used to bring me up in front to explain geometry problems, as many of the others didn't get it. I didn't study it even. I just read the description and the principles was clear. Later the elimination method was among my favourites. Starting with a mess, and boil down to a solution.

I wish there was more room for creativity. To invent. All this theory, although excellent, is like being a robotic car mechanic. Doesn't fuel my imaginary need for creative passion. Perhaps with about a 100 more points of IQ or something.

 

[Lot]

I also am not a big fan of math. I thought I was the only INTP that felt that way lol. It took until I had a really good college math teacher till I actually found it worth my time.

 

[Aramea]

Same. But then I tend to look at situations in a algebraic way. Like if I solve for some variables I'll be able to find the solution.

Actually now that I think about it, it's just geometry I hate. And solving pages of equations for no damn reason. I think I'm still bitter about math from high school.

This describes me very well, too. I don't really "like" math for its tediousness but I think in "if-then" statements. I understand types of math that others find difficult like probability and decision oriented math. I loved geometry in high school when everyone hated it because the proofs were so obvious.

 

[samjonathan]

i tend to get about 10 hours sleep a day

 

[Dave]

Also I don't like anime. That seems to be a fairly common theme here.

 

[Glordag]

i tend to get about 10 hours sleep a day

Infinitely, infinitely jealous...

I'm pretty socially needy, but only in particular circumstances. If I've been without people in my life for a while, I tend to sort of forget about them/not care about them. However, when I really have a good time with a person or group of people, I become helplessly lonely if I have to leave their company.

Like right now. My roommate just moved out, which should be GREAT, as I was becoming rather annoyed by her presence. However, I started to feel lonely. To top it off, I was talking to a girl online that lives a few hours away for the past 5 weeks or so, and, in typical fashion, managed to turn her from hot to cold on our status after meeting her in person (likely because I'm utterly incapable of showing enthusiasm/humoring others and flirting properly).

So, after coming home, I'm finding myself rather depressed about things in general. I'm lonely and have a void from where I was talking to said girl the entire time. It's endlessly frustrating, as I should be ecstatic about being alone again finally, but instead find myself really bummed out ): .

 

[MissBadHabits]

I'm actually quite outgoing (for an Introvert). I enjoy going to parties and socializing with big groups, but only if I'm under the influence of alcohol or the like. I don't know. Is alcoholism and addiction an INTP trait or not? unsure :-/

 

[Glordag]

I'm actually quite outgoing (for an Introvert). I enjoy going to parties and socializing with big groups, but only if I'm under the influence of alcohol or the like. I don't know. Is alcoholism and addiction an INTP trait or not? unsure :-/

I think that INTPs tend to "try things out" more often than some other MBTI types. This, of course, could feasibly lead to a statistical correlation if more exposure within the type resulted in a greater occurrence of addiction. Pure speculation, of course.

As far as alcoholism in particular is concerned, I haven't really noticed a particular trend amongst the types.

 

[alrai]

I've never had a problem with alcohol, I'm only tempted to drink when I'm going out. But you can call me a chain smoker, tobacco of-course, although recently I've lost my high dependency on them, and realized its benefits are actually, none. I have tried many drugs in the past, yet I never accepted the idea of addiction, i think it more dependence and with a little will power you will find many ways.

 

[Hypocritical truth teller]

I get moody when I'm stressed out, or when something really does not go according to plan I get nervous and am even able to cry. Freaking out is really the biggest un-INTP trait I have. I calm down really easily although... but still first reaction is not always that delightful to see.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Also I don't like anime. That seems to be a fairly common theme here.

Same, I grew out of it before highschool. Though I'm not sure if everyone here is INTP.

I also am not a big fan of math. I thought I was the only INTP that felt that way lol. It took until I had a really good college math teacher till I actually found it worth my time.

I haven't seen anything about it lately, but I saw a lot of negative opinions of math here in the past. I'm pretty sure the general consensus is that it's tedious and unstimulating.

 

[Glordag]

Same, I grew out of it before highschool. Though I'm not sure if everyone here is INTP.

You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me??!

I haven't seen anything about it lately, but I saw a lot of negative opinions of math here in the past. I'm pretty sure the general consensus is that it's tedious and unstimulating.

I really enjoyed math until I majored in it and physics. Once it became a life path I ceased to enjoy it. Such is the way of things for many an INTP, it seems.

 

[Anthrocide]

I am more of a people person that most INTPs. I think that this stems from my being bullied as a kid and deciding that I did not want to be a complete misfit in the world. I am also very self conscious and don 't like to hurt people's feelings if I can at all avoid it. I am very uncomfortable with confrontation and conflict.

That appears to be maturity rather than admixture of non-INTP traits.

 

[Delodephius]

Does hating other INTPs count as an un-INTP trait? Cuz I never came across another INTP that I even remotely liked. Or is this precisely an INTP trait?

 

[ObliviousGenius]

Well hello, My name is ObliviousGenius and this is my very first post. Anyway I would have to say that even though i can be a little bit nerdy in my interests I would not consider myself the classic stereotypical nerd. I am actually a pretty good looking guy and can be pretty sociable around the right people. I dont act like a nerd even around them. I am VERY cool and people recognize that in me. I have "swagg" as they would say (yes I am black) I actively pursue the prettiest girls and even though I don't have the best of luck (lack of complete social skills especially in the black community) I still have some decent luck with them because of good looks. So I wouldnt call myself the classic nerd at all at least not socially.

 

[ObliviousGenius]

I'm actually quite outgoing (for an Introvert). I enjoy going to parties and socializing with big groups, but only if I'm under the influence of alcohol or the like. I don't know. Is alcoholism and addiction an INTP trait or not? unsure :-/

Personally, I don't like alcohol all that much, I'm a weed smoker.

 

[pjoa09]

I am more of a people person that most INTPs. I think that this stems from my being bullied as a kid and deciding that I did not want to be a complete misfit in the world. I am also very self conscious and don 't like to hurt people's feelings if I can at all avoid it. I am very uncomfortable with confrontation and conflict.

I thought that would fire the other way. Bullying, discomfort with conflict, and self conscious should lead to heavy introversion.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

I tend to be better at public speaking than any other INTP I know personally.

 

[Solitaire U.]

I like kids, which doesn't necessarily mean I prefer them to adults, but the kids who are my students definitely appear to prefer me to other teachers/adults, probably due to my seemingly infinite patience when working with them. These, however, are all observations of others.

 

[Jelly Rev]

I dont act like a nerd even around them. I am VERY cool and people recognize that in me. I have "swagg" as they would say (yes I am black) I actively pursue the prettiest girls and even though I don't have the best of luck (lack of complete social skills especially in the black community) I still have some decent luck with them because of good looks.

lol modesty much?

particularly the INFPs - to be attractive - almost alluring - in their ability to delve deeply into their emotional depths and pull from them some genuinely stunning observations of the world. They may not always be grounded in pedantic logic, nor polished in the 'accuracy' of their details, but I actually find myself truly appreciative and in admiration of descriptions which are drawn out from human emotional capacities. There is beauty in that, I find.

agreed. Its quite amazing to peer into their world, and they are or at least the one I talk to is usually interested in what I am thinking about.
lol I never thought I'd witness the day where I would be explaining the heisenburg uncertainty principle and EPR paradox to someone else, let alone an INFP. Quite fascinating creatures. They are teachable but its hard to use what they say and put it into logical constructs to analyze.
INTJ's on the other hand they give u that occasional Ni thought that can burst ur Ne all over the place.
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un-intp: Occasionally being the life of the party. People are always confused when I show up and just like to hang back, or not go meet every single person observe like an intp does. I either must be at center stage alone or just in the background.
occasionally not having doubt in my idea bc I have thought for months about it. I said to one person who doubted me "you know all the time u've ever spent with ur gf in person for 4 years.....thats how much time Ive spent studying psychology so stfu."

 

[Dr. Freeman]

un-intp: Occasionally being the life of the party. People are always confused when I show up and just like to hang back, or not go meet every single person observe like an intp does. I either must be at center stage alone or just in the background.

That happens with me sometimes, but I usually need time to 'recharge' afterward depending on how long it happened.

 

[Jelly Rev]

[quoteThat happens with me sometimes, but I usually need time to 'recharge' afterward depending on how long it happened][/quote]

Of course. I wish they could understand that to do that much ne-fe I need to go back to some good ole ti. of course ti is always helping but its suppresed.

They need to understand to give me a day to me, to just think about stuff

 

[YuniYasha]

From what I've seen from other INTP's mine would most likely be the inferiority complex I have. I feel as if everyone is better then me or smarter then me. Definitely not much an ego here.

 

[Smithers10030]

Like ObliviousGenius, i'm also new here. one un-INTP thing about me is that i'm failing in math but can understand it pretty well. i think the problems are that i can't memoriza the formulas or the multiplication table, i seldom do the homeworks during seatworks, our teacher expects us to finish 20 items in 5 minutes, the subject time is strategically placed in times where i would most likely sleep and i always forget to approach the teachers for make-up tests. Other than that, English and Science are easily my best. one of the least is Christian Living. (I'm pretty close to atheist...) But as a kid, i used to be pretty smart and at the top of the class.

 

[eifebiani]

an un-intp trait for me would be when I have energy I'm extremely out going and always the one that initiates an conversation, this I suspects comes from when I was a child and observed that open people were way more popular so I decided to be more outgoing! the reason I still believe I'm very strong i is I can be that open for a short period and then I burn out so to speak and withdraw my self and loose all interest in others!

 

[Zionoxis]

I'm a bit more social than other INTP's I know. I have a circle of friends (not huge, but they exist). Other than that, I get agitated or angry pretty easily with people, especially with the appearance of my little sisters coming into my room. It could just be that I internally feel that they are distracting me (more than usual) from what I am doing. I do not explode, but I do show anger.

 

[digital angel]

I can be quite a people person, especially if the conversation is interesting.

 

[Somnium]

What I've noticed is that many of the people in the forum are rather introverted.

I am definitely a introvert, especially around strangers where I often only mutter a few words or speak in a barely audible voice, but around people I am somewhat familiar with I can be a pretty decent "people person". Maybe it is because I have a bit of a whacky sense of humor, but if I find someone else who is just as funny we can really talk a LOT and laugh our asses off. Although, if the person just wants small talk and the like, I usually say a lot less and am rather reserved/boring.

Also, it seems a lot of people like to stay home? I also stay home a lot, but lately I've been craving to leave the house because I was getting somewhat bored. I wanted to wander the city and explore new restaurants and stuff. Often with close friends. (But I actually go alone to eat sometimes by myself, I don't mind being alone too much.)

Crowds don't really bother me, as well as physical contact. Actually, when I was younger I really did not touch people much or was that affectionate, but hanging out with these friends for many years who hung onto each other a lot has rubbed off on me. I can do a "hug-like" gesture or put my arm on someone when I am leaning over them, but I can't seem to do a full-on "affectionate" hug when people want it. I usually back away. But when other people hug/touch me I don't mind.

Also I feel like I am not as knowledgeable as many of you. I am not mentally incapable, but I feel ignorant and stupid sometimes, and it bothers me a lot because I know so less. Yet I have no idea where to acquire this" knowledge" that everyone seems to have.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Also I don't like anime. That seems to be a fairly common theme here.

I don't like anime as well.

 

[warryer]

I understand people reasonably well.

I wear my emotions on my sleeve. It's easy to see when I'm mad, angry, frustrated, excited, happy, etc....

In groups at work/school (ie. situations with an agenda) I naturally assume a leadership position. People more often than not accept this. I think this is because I don't spend my time pissing around - "get to the point dammit." Yet in social situations I revert to my quiet self. Unless I'm comfortable, then I become the instigator.

Yet I have no idea where to acquire this" knowledge" that everyone seems to have.

All you have to do is keep reading. Read about stuff you find interesting. Read strange stories. Read articles in the newspaper. Just Read! Eventually you will start linking things that's being talked about in conversation with stuff you read. "hey that reminds me.... one time I read about:....."

 

[xbox]

I have a good social face that I put on when I absolutely need to.

I also cry in my room sometimes, when things build up and I have no one to tell. Only thing that makes me feel better.

I don't like anime.

I'm a big political junkie. (My source of entertainment)

I like to stay up to date in fashion, and I care how I look like when I go outside, just to be presentable.

 

[Zionoxis]

All you have to do is keep reading. Read about stuff you find interesting. Read strange stories. Read articles in the newspaper. Just Read! Eventually you will start linking things that's being talked about in conversation with stuff you read. "hey that reminds me.... one time I read about:....."

Does computer networking, security, and eventually C++ count as knowledge? In less than a year, I should have my CCNA, CompTIA N+,S+, and Linux+...yeah I know I sound like I am bragging, sadly, my knowledge in other areas is severely handicapped due to my massive knowledge intake I am going through this year.