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[Coolydudey]

Long time no see. How's everyone? Nice to see the community still has the same core ppl and the theme hasn't changed too much. Though things seem a bit less busy, like it's slowly dying down.

Also, why does everyone here think they're so intelligent? I get that it's part of the glue that holds the place together, that INTPs have a natural affinity for "intelligent" types of thought and perhaps intelligence itself, and I don't mean it in a demeaning way at all - but - isn't it interesting that it's almost openly accepted and encouraged here? At the end of the day, as much as we like to daydream about it, we're unlikely to change the world with our ideas, though perhaps an echo chamber in which to boost our feelings of self-worth is just what the doctor ordered?

 

[Creeping Death]

Excellent post

 

[QuickTwist]

Long time no see. How's everyone? Nice to see the community still has the same core ppl and the theme hasn't changed too much. Though things seem a bit less busy, like it's slowly dying down.

Also, why does everyone here think they're so intelligent? I get that it's part of the glue that holds the place together, that INTPs have a natural affinity for "intelligent" types of thought and perhaps intelligence itself, and I don't mean it in a demeaning way at all - but - isn't it interesting that it's almost openly accepted and encouraged here? At the end of the day, as much as we like to daydream about it, we're unlikely to change the world with our ideas, though perhaps an echo chamber in which to boost our feelings of self-worth is just what the doctor ordered?

I think I am a shade above average actually (two shades on a good day). I already know I am not nearly as smart as a lot of the people here. This place is characterized by intelligent people though. IMO the people here are much smarter than the average population. The nice thing about this being a personality site and not a High IQ Society site, is that they let me stay here.

But in all seriousness, I think this site attracts the smarter people because of the topics that are talked about. Some of the topics are quite zany, and I think that overall that fits perfectly with the people who are not so normal, but hella smart.

BTW, WB

 

[Not Anyone To Care For]

I don't know how to answer the first question, I honestly think everyone here is pretty hard on themselves about their intelligence, and we're all constantly trying to improve. I actually view myself as stupid a majority of the time but I don't know about the others.

Also, we can't change the world with our ideas because we are a grey area in a world that doesn't like grey areas and we come here for a morale boost to try again.

I hope people like us can lay the foundation for future generations.. Or else the human race is screwed. Meh.

 

[Coolydudey]

@Quick Thanks, Idk how long I'll be around though. I might have exaggerated my point. I think people on here are smarter than average, that much is beyond question. But they're less smart than they think they are or than the forum environment allows them to take credit for. I am also including myself in the above characterisation (in the past, anyway).

 

[QuickTwist]

@Quick Thanks, Idk how long I'll be around though. I might have exaggerated my point. I think people on here are smarter than average, that much is beyond question. But they're less smart than they think they are or than the forum environment allows them to take credit for. I am also including myself in the above characterisation (in the past, anyway).

Well, it seems you have a bit different perspective than when you were last here? Not saying necessarily having to do with how smart you think you are or how smart other people are, though that could be the case. Did you find yourself surrounded by a bunch of people while away from the forum or something?

 

[Not Anyone To Care For]

I agree, a lot of us actually think we're a lot smarter then we actually are. I believe it has to do with not having enough people to compare ourselves. If we all spent time with people much more intelligent than us it would spur a intellectual competition and that is when we break through our plateaus and improve, unless you're Einstein ofcourse. I think we come to this forum longing to improve our ideas that a majority of people are not interested in and it's unfortunate because we all have a lot of potential.

 

[Tannhauser]

Ey yo yo dawg

It's probably a combination of being reasonably intelligent, getting ulterior validation from MBTI, and being too lazy to put one's intelligence to the test. It's a good setup for inflating one's idea of one's intelligence beyond reality.

 

[EditorOne]

It's only apparently quiet right now, folks are enjoying the silence after some rancorous U.S. Presidency discussions.

I know I'm smarter than most - top one percent. However, just in the United States that top one percent amounts to 3.3 million people and within that one percent are as many gradations as there are from one to 99 percentiles. So you can even confirm you're smart with decades of every kind of test imaginable and still be humbled that there might be 3,299,999 people who are smarter.

Context is everything. Well, it's important, anyway.

 

[RaBind]

Quite a few people here don't act that smart or haughty though and of coarse some are actually just pretty damned smart.

Might somewhat be because this is a forum and they can get away with it, i.e. you are less likely to see such attitude in universities amongst professors.

This makes me think that the divide, or perceived divide, between the smarter people and not as smart people may also be a factor in this sort of attitude, since there isn't a lower bound for participating here as there is in say becoming a professors at a university.

 

[Rixus]

Maybe I do overestimate how smart I am. I know an IQ of somewhere between 132 and 137 isn't the end of the world, but it probably the only thing about myself I am confident of. Possibly because it's about the only positive thing anyone ever says to me, so I sort of feel as though it's the ought thing I have going for me.

Out there in RL, I meet a lot of people who are deeply stupid and I think where I live is worse than most places - this place brings the combined IQ of the planet down a few notches. That makes me lazy - I have to dumb down in order to talk the humans, and I don't get a lot of mental stimulation. I like it here, though, because you lot are clearly a smart bunch and it'll hopefully encourage to get those neurons in gear.

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[ProxyAmenRa]

I don't know about other people but I am a dullard.

 

[Ex-User (13503)]

I agree, a lot of us actually think we're a lot smarter then we actually are. I believe it has to do with not having enough people to compare ourselves. If we all spent time with people much more intelligent than us it would spur a intellectual competition and that is when we break through our plateaus and improve, unless you're Einstein ofcourse. I think we come to this forum longing to improve our ideas that a majority of people are not interested in and it's unfortunate because we all have a lot of potential.

My take on this is that the folks here are actually more intelligent and are here seeking that stimulus to break through. Of course, a group of people with external loci of control will flounder. Individual revelations aside, the group of forum election threads is probably the most this place will ever accomplish. There aren't exactly a ton of people here with pragmatic internal loci of control and the ability to instill it in others. Above all, this is a community of seekers.

Spoiler

Long time no see. How's everyone? Nice to see the community still has the same core ppl and the theme hasn't changed too much. Though things seem a bit less busy, like it's slowly dying down.

Also, why does everyone here think they're so intelligent? I get that it's part of the glue that holds the place together, that INTPs have a natural affinity for "intelligent" types of thought and perhaps intelligence itself, and I don't mean it in a demeaning way at all - but - isn't it interesting that it's almost openly accepted and encouraged here? At the end of the day, as much as we like to daydream about it, we're unlikely to change the world with our ideas, though perhaps an echo chamber in which to boost our feelings of self-worth is just what the doctor ordered?

So now I'm curious... what brought you back?

 

[Not Anyone To Care For]

My take on this is that the folks here are actually more intelligent and are here seeking that stimulus to break through. Of course, a group of people with external loci of control will flounder. Individual revelations aside, the group of forum election threads is probably the most this place will ever accomplish. There aren't exactly a ton of people here with pragmatic internal loci of control and the ability to instill it in others. Above all, this is a community of seekers.

Exactly what I was trying to say

See, I need to improve on communicating my ideas and in that aspect this forum helps immensely.

 

[Ex-User (13503)]

Exactly what I was trying to say

See, I need to improve on communicating my ideas and in that aspect this forum helps immensely.

lol.... You just need to be exposed to more concepts and irl ways of thinking/feeling, then you'll have upped your degree of jargon sufficiently.

(This is also why I scream on the inside every time I see an INTP complain about the liberal arts structure of a university, because that's exactly what provides that exposure. "I'm a physics major. Why do I have to take a psychology class!?!?!?")

^(This) in itself is subtle manipulation that's a level above what it describes. I'm totally pushing you to choose that structure. Because holism. Because I got a vibe from you that says it's a good idea.

 

[Reluctantly]

I don't know about other people but I am a dullard.

I'm dumb too.

 

[Not Anyone To Care For]

lol.... You just need to be exposed to more concepts and irl ways of thinking/feeling, then you'll have upped your degree of jargon sufficiently.

(This is also why I scream on the inside every time I see an INTP complain about the liberal arts structure of a university, because that's exactly what provides that exposure. "I'm a physics major. Why do I have to take a psychology class!?!?!?")

^(This) in itself is subtle manipulation that's a level above what it describes. I'm totally pushing you to choose that structure. Because holism. Because I got a vibe from you that says it's a good idea.

That is something I didn't really recognize/pay attention to, and I'm really glad you brought it up. I come off as incompetent when I try to explain a really complex idea that I worked out in my head but I end up mumbling like an idiot because my vocabulary is garabge so that doesn't really help.. I'll just need to start frequenting this forum

Also, that was some decent subtle manipulation

 

[Ex-User (13503)]

Also, that was some decent subtle manipulation

The rabbit hole goes deeper.

 

[Columbo]

my iq is sub 70. retard status. apologies to my parents and the constructive forces of the universe

 

[PmjPmj]

Re: perceiving oneself as intelligent, I'm constantly beating myself up for being a stunningly unintelligent individual. I may come across as somewhat arrogant here/IRL, but in reality I'm deeply insecure about my perceived lack of intelligence. I've long said that I was born with the mind of a scientist but the brain of an idiot; the hardware struggles to run the software.

It doesn't matter that I've had people telling me I'm an incredibly intelligent individual all my life. I never believe it, because I'm too busy beating the shit out of myself for being a complete mess of a human being.

That being said, whenever I go out into public and take a good look around, I do sometimes think "Yeah... maybe I am fairly sharp compared to average...", because holy shit.

Never stop learning; never stop striving to be and do better. Sit by the wayside for too long and the world will bury you.